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On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more.

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Writing a novel and writing a song are two quite different prospects. Dan Hornsby—author of Sucker and Via Negativa, as well as fronting indie-rock group True Green—is pretty well-versed in both. On this very day True Green release their second album HAIL DISASTER on Spacecase Records and Dan joins me to discuss his music, his writing and some of the stories that make their way into his art. In amongst discussions of the late Steve Irwin, Lou Reed and The Cleaners from Venus we even find ourselves discussing the late purple one, Prince. And I’m always game for a chat about Prince. True Green will be playing shows in North America in the end of May. You can get further information on all upcoming shows from the links below. Daniel Hornsby online, for all writing and music-related content. InstagramTrue Green on bandcamp. HAIL DISASTER on vinyl from Spacecase Records.Thanks to Joe at Stereo Junk PRCheck out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job KidIntro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Though post-punk unit Black Beach was officially born in 2012, Steve Instasi, bassist Ben Semeta and drummer Ryan Nicholson had already been playing together under different names. In fact, Ben and Steve have been playing together in various bands since Steve was 12. So Mail Thief (out this Friday on Best Brother Records) is certainly far from the trio’s first rodeo. But while the band already have several releases under their belts, Mail Thief is Black Beach’s first collaboration with a label (thanks to the band linking up with Best Brother Records). With Mail Thief channelling strains of The Birthday Party, as well as longstanding inspirations like The Fall and The Stooges, Steve joins me to discuss the record, how the band’s sound has evolved over the years and tales from many years of performing and touring. And on the topic of tours, Black Beach will be playing along the East Coast of the US from the 1st of April, preceded by an album-release show on Saturday the 21st of March at Deep Cuts, Medford, MA (supported by Pinklids, Nice Guys and Dinos). Incidentally, on the 4th of April, Black Beach will be sharing a stage with Luna Honey, whose Maura Pond appeared on this podcast all the way back on episode 47—if you haven’t already given that interview a whirl, the might like to do so. She’s great and they’re great. For all Black Beach links and to listen to and pre-order Mail Thief click here. Check out the Best Brother Records catalogue here. Thanks to Joe at Stereo Junk PRCheck out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job KidIntro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Currently residing in Berlin, US-born Claire Dickson is no stranger to having the inspiration of a new environment seep its way into her music. While her debut, solo-record Starland was intriguingly, “Created on a boat in the Arctic Circle and her apartment in Brooklyn,” (where she lived at that time), Balance was born entirely out of the land. With her latest record released today (on New Amsterdam Records), Claire joins me to discuss her music, her singing background, why she moved to Berlin (and stayed) and how she found herself in the Artic Circle. For music, videos, live dates and more, visit Claire Dickson’s website. Claire Dickson on bandcamp. New Amsterdam Records. Thanks to Jan at New Amsterdam Records. Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job KidIntro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Songwriter, performer, producer, sitcom-theme-tune writer, radio host, Ben Vaughn has many strings to his bow from decades working in the arts and entertainment world. Since January of this year, ‘podcast host’ can now be added to the list, as Vaughn (alongside co-host Laura Pochodylo) present “Straight From The Hat With Ben Vaughn”. On each episode of the show Pochodylo (a manager at Sun Records in Nashville) draws out names at random from a hat. Every name has some connection to Vaughn from his years in music and TV and so the stories spontaneously follow. Five episodes have been aired so far, featuring stories of Vaughn playing with Lynyrd Skynyrd, how he ended up writing music for Third Rock From The Sun and (in the most recently aired episode) his role as producer on the Ween record 12 Golden Country Greats.For sure I wasn’t going to miss the chance to get more entertaining Ween-related stories out of Vaughn, but just like with his podcast there was no shortage of topics to dive into and insights to gain from his years in the music business and beyond. Click here for links to Straight From The HatCheck out Ben Vaughn’s website (including links to his music)Thanks to Howard at Howlin’ Wuelf MediaCheck out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job KidIntro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Episode 125: AIDS Wolf

Episode 125: AIDS Wolf

2026-03-0301:11:09

In 2012 Chloë Lum, Yannick Desranleau and Alex Moskos played their last shows together as AIDS Wolf. They took their gear down to La Brique studios in Montréal and with engineer Sébastien Fournier recorded their final four tracks together as AIDS Wolf. Fast forward 14 years and those tracks are finally seeing the light of day as Harsh Human Style, released this Friday on SKiN GRAFT Records. Why the long wait? Well, conveniently Yannick, Alex and Chloë all join me to discuss just that. Well, not just that. We go through various history of the band, all the way back to the start. Their releases, the reception to their name, touring trials and tribulations in North America, their influences, contemporaries and friends past and present. The only letdown to proceedings was my interface crapping the bed just before the interview started. But you can’t have everything, can you? Huge thanks to Alex, Chloë and Yannick for their time and to Mark Fischer once again for setting me up to talk with such cool people. Pre-order Harsh Human Style on CD or digitally from bandcamp — and check out their back catalogue there while you’re at it. Check out Alex’s Drainolith project on bandcamp. Check out Chloë and Yannick’s The Garden of a Former House Turned Museum on bandcamp. SKiN GRAFT Records on bandcamp. Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job KidIntro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Blunt Knife Castration is an extreme-metal project born out of a fascination with 70s/80s horror movies, a botched surgery and the shadow of the Covid pandemic.Blood & Oil, released this Friday on Remorseless Records is the third release from Simon Bryant under the Blunt Knife Castration name—Simon handling all the playing and recording, with the project being a solo venture up till now. Currently Simon is in the midst of rehearsing with two newly-recruited members, the intention being to take Blunt Knife Castration onto stages in Simon’s local Kent in England and hopefully beyond. With the dirty, noisy, overdriven spirit of sludge-metal icons Eyehategod a musical reference point since 2024 demo Chewed Up And Spat Out, Blood & Oil sees Blunt Knife Castration continue to evolve as Simon channels a more introspective, inner darkness. Simon joins me to discuss the latest record, the project’s origins, his years away from heavy music and plans for the future. Closing track: “Guilt Pig” (Remorseless Records, 2026)Check out Blunt Knife Castration on bandcampThanks to Kyle at Good Boy PRVisit Remorseless RecordsCheck out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job KidIntro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
First rising to prominence in underground circles with neo-no-wave group Arab On Radar in the mid-90s, guitarist Steve Mattos has been involved in a number of notable musical projects over the past three decades. Most recently Steve has been making music as part of THERE, a psychedelic, noise-rock four-piece based in Providence, Rhode Island, where Steve was born. Also featuring former members of notable Rhode Island groups like Daughters and The Chinese Stars, THERE recently released their debut, self-titled album on Psychic Static. Steve joins me to discuss the band, the album, growing up in Rhode Island, the influence of jazz throughout his career and the infamous first Arab On Radar show opening for Marilyn Manson in the mid-90s. Closing track: “Disposable Head” (Psychic Static, 2026)Check out THERE on bandcampThanks to J at Psychic StaticVisit Psychic StaticCheck out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
2026 marks the five-year anniversary of Discipline PR, the agency founded by former Ohm Resistance head of PR, Dan Volohov. Catering to musicians and bands across all genres, Dan and Discipline PR have been serving the underground, DIY music world with heart, enthusiasm and creativity since their inception in 2021.With Dan being so embedded in the musical underground it should be no surprise that Discipline PR has had a hand in many of the projects that have been highlighted on this here podcast Whatever Comes Next. Dan in fact helped set up my conversation with Peter Stahl of Scream for the very first ever episode of WCN. As with my conversations with Dave Brenner of Earsplit PR (Episode 100: DIY Special), Clément Duboscq of Vous Connaissez ? PR (Episode 104) and Howard Wuelfing of Howlin’ Wuelf Media (Episode 118) I was delighted to get a chance to pick Dan’s brain on a bunch of music topics as he sees them from his position in PR. It’s a great pleasure for me, both to get insights from people behind the scenes who’ve been great supporters of my own DIY music investigations, but also just to get to chat in real time to people I’m so often firing emails back and forth with. Featuring tales of Keith Levene (of PiL), Touch & Go Records, Mick Harris (of Napalm Death and Scorn) and plenty more.Closing track: “Fixer (with Megan Osztrosits of COUCH SLUT) (SKiN GRAFT Records/ Overdrive, 2024)Agency website: Discipline PRCheck out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Episode 121: Luxury Skin

Episode 121: Luxury Skin

2026-02-0401:25:14

Luxury Skin is a musical creation both beautiful and dissonant, elegant and ominous. Last week saw the release of “Die Waiting”, the latest Luxury Skin single and a teaser for the as-yet unnamed follow-up to debut album It’s All Over from 2023. Juliet E. Gordon is the creator of this musical world and she joins me to discuss Luxury Skin and her former band The Classical, and share her insights on writing, recording, touring and the meaning behind some of her songs. Closing track: “Die Waiting” (2026)For all links: luxuryskin.xyzLuxury Skin on bandcampJuliet’s blog on substack: Ask LuxuryCheck out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Jack Carino, Jillian Keats, Adam Kaniper, and Kevin Henson are no novices to the musical underground—having all been involved in various different projects. Together as Stress Spells the four create an intense, anxiety-inducing barrage of slicing, interweaving guitars, jerking grooves and impassioned vocals. Hearts Never Tire is the band’s debut full-length and will be released digitally and on vinyl through Fuzz Records on the 6th of February. Jack, Jill, Adam and Kevin join me to discuss the record, their influences and inspirations and how to pick which battles to fight. Closing track: “Too Little Too Late” (2026)Buy Hearts Never Tire on vinyl or digitally on bandcamp. Thanks to Justin at The Chain. Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Episode 119: Robert Deeble

Episode 119: Robert Deeble

2026-01-2001:06:46

Never one for rushing his music, Robert Deeble’s latest record The Space Between Us follows up his last full length record Beloved from 2017. A lot has happened in the world since then. In his thoughtful, lyrical way Deeble reflects on the state of the world around him and its impact on human relationships. The Space Between Us is also a record that continues Deeble’s fascination with pulling from literary sources to construct his delicately beautiful songs. In this conversation we discuss Deeble’s music, its various influences, his collaborators and the importance of community.Closing track: “Orphan Song” (2025)Buy The Space Between Us on vinyl or CD on bandcamp—digital copies and streams available from the 6th of February. Photo by Michael WilsonCheck out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My music on AmpwallPodcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
DIY Special: CODA

DIY Special: CODA

2026-01-0646:25

Back in September 2025, with the help of Dave Brenner of Earsplit PR, I put together a special 100th episode of Whatever Comes Next with eight different guests (including Dave). For this episode, I wanted to dedicate more of the time with my guests to getting their takes and insights on the music business—as it is for independent artists (whether from the position of touring and recording artists, producers, label owners or publicists).As a little extra, I thought it would be fun to ask each of my guests to tell me about some musical experience that changed their lives. Whether it was Dave Brenner having his mind blown at a Neurosis show in the 90s, or Steve Austin of Today Is The Day pretty much fleeing town after being so unnerved by a Jesus Lizard show, I got some great, entertaining stories. Hopefully you’ll feel the same. Check out Dave Brenner’s latest album as Gridfailure Visit Nefarious Industries for all their latest releasesCheck out the latest Today Is The Day recordCheck out Urlo’s latest record as THE MONVisit Malleus for all their work and forthcoming Tarot Kickstarter projectVisit Black Matter MasteringVisit Exile On MainstreamIntro: 00:00Dave Brenner (Earsplit PR/ Gridfailure): 03:17Greg Meisenberg (Nefarious Industries): 14:28Steve Austin (Today Is The Day): 19:33Lu, Urlo, Poia (Malleus/ Supernatural Cat/ Ufomammut): 34:22Dan Emery (Black Matter Mastering): 40:29Andreas Kohl (Exile On Mainstream): 44:05 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Howard Wuelfing started making music, and writing about it in the 70s, first in New Jersey and subsequently Washington D.C. where he found himself in the midst of the burgeoning local underground scene of that time.Descenes and Discords: An Anthology (out now on DiWulf Publishing) presents complete facsimiles of two important fanzines that Wuelfing edited and wrote for during this key time in U.S. DIY music history—including reviews, live reports, interviews and letters and early coverage of bands like Bad Brains and Mission of Burma.In this conversation we discuss the story of both fanzines and Wuelfing’s place in the D.C. underground of the time—the bands, the writers and the community—his subsequent move into music PR and his thoughts on DIY music making today.Closing track: Underheaven “Adding Up To Nothing” (2023)Buy ⁠Descenes and Discords: An Anthology⁠ from DiWulf PublishingHoward Wuelfing on ⁠bandcamp⁠Underheaven on ⁠facebook⁠Support the show and get bonus content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
The anonymous, Parisian duo of Void and Moon have been making wildly-creative, unclassifiable music together since 2021, though the history of the project goes back some years earlier. Over the past four years or so the duo have been remarkably prolific, putting out a series of releases as Non Serviam, Hiverlucide, Biollante and Néant—collaborating with various other artists along the way and blending electro, noise, black metal, sludge, goth rock and industrial music into their own particular musical concoctions. With the pair working on various releases to be completed in the new year I caught up Void and Moon to talk about their music, their politics, live performances and what’s coming in 2026. Follow Non Serviam on ⁠bandcamp⁠ for all their music and related projects and links to their videos on YouTube and other platforms.Closing track: “Biollante” (Trepanation Recordings, 2022)Support the show and get bonus content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Episode 116: Breaths

Episode 116: Breaths

2025-12-1253:47

Around five years ago multi-instrumentalist Jason Roberts started Breaths—a solo project that incorporates various styles and elements and can dramatically shift in sound from one release to the next.Keeping things simple, Jason refers to what he creates as “heavy music”, but listeners may hear traces of Deftones, Cult of Luna, desert rock and nu metal (just as a few examples).Violescent, the latest album by Breaths (out today on Fiadh Productions) was originally intended as the debut release of a band by the same name (Jason joined by drummer Wren and bassist Ski), before the project ultimately transformed into the latest Breaths release.Jason joins me to discuss the record, his musical history, why (for now) he’s done with touring and the impact of technology on the music world today.Closing track: “The Worm” (Fiadh Productions, 2025)Thanks to Bariann at FiadhBuy Violescent on ⁠cassette⁠Buy Violescent on ⁠vinyl and CD ⁠Follow Breaths on ⁠Instagram⁠Follow Breaths on ⁠facebook⁠Support the show and get bonus content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Most well known as the long-standing bass player for grindcore pioneers Napalm Death, Shane Embury is a prolific artist whose fascination with experimental and underground music transcends any genre pigeonholing.Dark Sky Burial is a project Embury brought into being during the years of the Covid pandemic and one musically inspired by atmospheric, electronic acts like Coil and Dead Can Dance.Running parallel to Embury’s recent music-making under the Dark Sky Burial name, the musician has been investigating the inner self through a practice of Jungian individuation, making this musical project a deeply personal one of self as well as musical discovery.The Sacred Neurotic, the latest Dark Sky Burial album, will be released this coming Friday on Consouling Sounds. In this conversation we discuss the album, the project, the state of the music business for underground artists and Embury shares stories of his time in Napalm Death and his long-standing love and affection for Cardiacs, a band perhaps equally significant and beloved in the UK underground of the past 50 years as Napalm Death is.Closing track: “Smother” (Consouling Sounds, 2025)Thanks to Dan at Discipline PR⁠Buy The Sacred Neurotic⁠⁠Follow Dark Sky Burial⁠Support the show and get bonus content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Today marks the release of Wyrmoon II the second full-length album by Maine black metal group Wyrmoon. The band’s vocalist, guitarist, songwriter and founder Guinevere Sylvain joins me to discuss the record, songwriting, the band’s origins, stories from the road and music in the digital age. Closing track: “Sickle Knife Devotion” (Fiadh Productions, 2025) Thanks to Bariann at Fiadh Buy Wyrmoon II on ⁠vinyl⁠ ⁠/ Cassette⁠ ⁠Follow Wyrmoon⁠ Support the show and get bonus content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
The story of The Balboas stretches back across several decades. It’s a story that intertwines with surf-guitar legend Dick Dale—while on the band’s latest record, Bite! Blood! Repeat! (out this Friday on Burn N’ Surf Records), the groups spiritual bond with the movies of Quentin Tarantino is even more firmly cemented with the feature of The 5678s (who appeared in Kill Bill). This latest record features many other notable collaborations, including Mike Watt and Paul Roessler.Rich Griffith joins me to discuss the record, the band’s history, surfing, punk music, touring and what it means to be a Balboa. Closing track: “Bury It With You” (Burn N’ Surf Records, 2025) Photo: Suzanne ClementsThanks to Dan at Discipline PRBuy the album Music, links and press at The BalboasSupport the show and get bonus content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Episode 112: OvO

Episode 112: OvO

2025-11-2857:27

Italian duo Bruno Dorella and Stefania Pedretti have been making avant-garde electro-rock music together as OvO for twenty five years. The electro-industrial Gemma is the pair’s latest album (out now on Artoffact Records).Bruno and Stefania join me to discuss the record, magic, ritual, growing up in Italy, their time living and performing in squats and their thoughts on the digital age in music.Closing track: “Opale” feat. Lord Spokeheart (Artoffact Records, 2025)Photo by Annapaola MartinThanks for Curran at The Chain⁠Buy the album⁠Follow OvO on ⁠facebook⁠⁠Instagram⁠Support the show and get bonus content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
Dark, instrumental, jazz-rock duo Mellowdeath are Sara Neidorf and Isabel Merten.Sara and Isabel join me to discuss their debut, self-titled album (out now on Cruel Nature Records), the origins of the band, the visuals and artwork, playing live, the realities of touring and their plans for 2026.Thanks to Dave at Earsplit PRAlbum art by Chloe GroveBuy the album:⁠digital⁠⁠cassette⁠Follow Mellowdeath on ⁠Instagram⁠Support the show and get bonus content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
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