Between the Walls

We're revisiting one of our very first conversations — submission — but this time with almost four years of marriage under our belts. Back when we first talked about this, we were barely a year and a half in. A lot has changed. A lot has also stayed the same. In this episode, we get into what submission actually looks like in a real marriage, where it comes from in Scripture (hint: Ephesians 5 starts with mutual submission — men, that one's for you), and why the conversation is bigger than gender roles or who does the dishes. We also talk about the difference between personality and character, what it looks like to love your spouse when it's hard, and why gratitude might be the most underrated tool in a marriage. Plus — a little gym saga, Jacquez being dramatic for attention, and a question about what you'd do if your nephew called you from a police station with a Snickers situation. In this episode: Revisiting Submission or Slavery — where we started vs. where we are now What submission is not (and why men misquote Ephesians 5 constantly) Mutual submission and what it actually demands of husbands Growing up with different examples of gender roles — and how that shaped us Loving your spouse for who they are, not who you think they should be Raising kids to be self-sufficient, not gender-boxed Why praying for your spouse hits different than praying about them Between the Walls drops every Wednesday on YouTube and every Thursday on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Find us on Instagram @betweenthewallspod and subscribe to our Substack for the extended, unfiltered version.

What actually causes marriages to fall apart?   Is it money? Communication? Intimacy? Or something deeper that most people miss?   In this episode, we sit down with Jonathan’s parents—married 33 years and experienced marriage counselors—to talk about what they’ve seen in both thriving and struggling relationships. From real-life stories to hard-earned wisdom, this conversation gets honest about what builds a marriage… and what slowly tears it down. We talk about: The difference between intent and impact in conflict Why assuming the worst can quietly destroy a relationship The three biggest areas couples struggle in What the first years of marriage really feel like How to communicate without trying to “win” And the small habits that keep love alive over time Whether you’re dating, engaged, or married, this episode will challenge the way you see relationships and give you practical ways to grow.   New episodes every Wednesday Available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify

In this honest and vulnerable conversation, Jess and Jonathan talk about a topic that doesn’t get discussed enough — backsliding.   What does it really look like to drift from God? Is it a sudden fall, or a slow fade? And how do you find your way back?   They share personal experiences and unpack: The difference between struggling with sin and becoming comfortable in it What it looks like to live a “double life” while still showing up to church How community and accountability help prevent spiritual drift Why some people walk away, while others feel pulled back to God The hope found in God’s grace, even when we run   This episode is about the messy middle of faith — the tension between knowing the truth and not always living it, and the reminder that it’s never too late to come back.   New episodes every Wednesday.

Season 3 starts now. After a long break (and a full kitchen reno), Jess & Jonathan are back—catching you up on what’s changed, what God’s been teaching them, and why they’re moving differently this year. In this episode, they talk about: What it’s like rebuilding rhythm after a long pause The hard truth about fasting (and how it exposes what we really rely on) Why “perfect” social media couples are under pressure—and what actually keeps a marriage healthy Setting boundaries around pregnancy conversations while still holding on to hope The danger of overly confident “prophecies” and why your trust has to stay on God, not people’s words If you’ve ever felt stretched, disappointed, or tempted to perform your way through life—this one’s for you.   New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the show and connect with us on Instagram: @betweenthewallsPod

We’re back with a life update and answering some of the questions you all sent in! From navigating our fertility journey to talking about choosing your partner over Instagram, online dating, and everything in between—this episode is honest, unfiltered, and full of laughs. Whether you’re here for the wisdom or the wild takes, there’s something in this one for you.

In this episode, we tackle some thought-provoking questions sent in by our listeners! From navigating past attractions and identity, to balancing relationships and social media, we cover it all. Plus, don’t miss our Black Movie Draft at the beginning, where we pick our favorite films! Join us for a fun and real conversation about relationships, love, and everything in between.  

Dating can be confusing, but setting standards doesn’t have to be! In this episode, we dive into the big questions—Do looks really matter? What are the biggest red flags? How do you define your non-negotiables? Whether you’re single, dating, or just figuring it all out, we’re having an honest, faith-filled conversation on what truly matters in relationships. 

Before you jump into dating, let’s talk about what it really means to be ready for a relationship. In this episode, we break down the importance of intentional singleness, knowing your worth, and preparing yourself emotionally and spiritually before stepping into dating. We also tackle the pressure from society (and the church) to rush into marriage, the pitfalls of dating without purpose, and why contentment in your current season is key. If you’re single and wondering, “Am I ready for a relationship?”—this episode is for you!

How do you know if it’s really God speaking to you? In this episode, we dive into what it means to recognize God’s voice in everyday life. From building a deeper relationship with Him to understanding the difference between His guidance and our own thoughts, we’re breaking down practical ways to tune in and listen. If you’ve ever wondered, Am I really hearing from God?—this episode is for you.

Why is saying “no” so hard? In this episode, we dive deep into the struggles of setting boundaries, overcoming people-pleasing, and learning to protect your time and energy. Whether it’s relationships, work, or commitments that drain you, we’re unpacking how to confidently say “no” without guilt. Because at the end of the day, prioritizing your peace isn’t selfish—it’s necessary. Tune in as we discuss practical ways to set healthy boundaries and reclaim your time.

Explore the transformative power of ultimatums in relationships. From tough decisions to life-changing commitments, join us as we navigate the complexities of love, timing, and the pursuit of happiness.

In this candid episode of Between the Walls, Jonathan and Jessica dive deep into the struggles of overcoming pornography, shame, and the importance of self-control. They share their personal journeys of battling temptation, the impact on their relationship, and the healing process through faith. This conversation is about confronting hidden struggles, finding redemption, and learning to walk in God’s grace—no matter how messy the process may be.

In this candid episode, we unpack the age-old question: Why is giving so hard? Whether it’s money, time, or emotional support, we explore the internal battles that make selfless giving a challenge. From societal pressures to personal insecurities, we delve into the complexities that hinder our ability to give freely. Join us as we share personal stories, practical insights, and biblical wisdom on how to overcome greed and embrace radical generosity. Discover how letting go can lead to a richer, more fulfilling life rooted in faith and compassion.

Arguments are inevitable in any relationship, but how you handle them can make all the difference. In this episode, we open up about a particularly awkward fight we had in front of other people and what it taught us about arguing well. We’ll share practical tips for handling conflict with love, navigating hard conversations without causing unnecessary hurt, and learning to fight fair. Whether you’re in a relationship, married, or just looking to improve your communication skills, this episode is packed with real talk and helpful insights!

In this episode, we dive into what it means to live well from a position of influence.  We explore the balance between personal convictions, cultural perceptions, and Biblical principles. Plus, we discuss the unique challenges of being a Christian influencer, navigating judgment, and stewarding your platform in a way that honors God. Whether you’ve struggled with this question or are curious about how faith and influence intersect, this conversation offers a thoughtful and grace-filled perspective.

In this episode, we tackle one of the toughest relationship questions: How do you know if a challenge is something you can work through or a sign it’s time to walk away? We break down common red flags to watch for, share tips for recognizing healthy conflict versus toxic patterns, and discuss how to discern whether your relationship is helping you grow or holding you back. Whether you’re dating, engaged, or reflecting on past relationships, this conversation will equip you with the tools to make confident, faith-filled decisions about your future.

In this episode, we share an update on our fertility journey—the highs, the lows, and everything in between. We open up about the lessons we’ve learned during this season of waiting and how we’re leaning into God’s promises even when the answers aren’t clear. Join us as we discuss what it means to wait on God well, find hope in the midst of uncertainty, and trust His perfect timing for our lives. Whether you’re in a season of waiting or supporting someone who is, this conversation will encourage and inspire you to hold on to faith and grace through it all.

In this  episode of “Between the Walls, Jonathan and Jessica Wallace dive into the challenges and joys of building and maintaining friendships in adulthood. They explore the complexities of forming new connections, sustaining old ones, and the evolving nature of friendships as life changes.   Drawing from personal experiences, they discuss setting healthy boundaries, balancing priorities, and recognizing when to let go of relationships that no longer serve you. Jonathan and Jessica also share practical tips for nurturing meaningful connections and leaning on faith as a foundation for true friendships.   Tune in for an insightful conversation on navigating friendships in a season where time and energy are precious, but connection is more valuable than ever.

In this  episode of “Between the Walls,”Jonathan and Jessica welcome special guests Matthew and Dana Harvey to share their remarkable journey of redemption, resilience, and love. Matthew and Dana open up about overcoming personal struggles, the role of faith in their transformation, and how they found healing and purpose in their marriage.   This inspiring conversation covers the challenges they faced and the ways God’s grace led them from difficult circumstances to a thriving, Christ-centered relationship. Join us for an unforgettable episode filled with hope, vulnerability, and a testament to the power of love and faith in turning even the hardest situations into a foundation for a blessed marriage.

In this episode of “Between the Walls,” Jonathan and Jessica tackle the subtle traps that can hinder a healthy, joyful relationship. They explore how placing your spouse on a pedestal, seeking validation from others, and comparing yourself to others can erode self-worth and contentment.   With honesty and vulnerability, Jonathan and Jessica share personal insights and faith-based guidance on maintaining a balanced, Christ-centered relationship. They dive into how modesty, humility, and focusing on God’s validation rather than others’ can lead to a more joyful, fulfilling life.   Join them for a meaningful conversation about finding joy by shifting your focus from societal expectations to genuine, grace-filled love—both for yourself and your spouse.