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Explore the transformative journey that is leadership. In each episode, we will dive deep into strategies, stories, insights, and the core values that shape and inspire effective Christian leaders who make an impact - all around the globe. Get ready to unlock your leadership potential.
When leaders are equipped, kingdom impact multiplies. Equipping leaders and spreading the Gospel. Let’s change history together!
This podcast is brought to you by the International Leadership Institute.
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What if the most powerful leadership lesson is not taught from a stage, but shown in the way we serve people? In this encouraging episode of the History Makers Leadership Podcast, Shannon Jackson shares what she experienced during a recent leadership training journey in Abuja, Nigeria. Through stories of humility, cultural sensitivity, and deep care for others, this conversation reveals how servant leadership creates trust, opens hearts, and leaves a lasting impact. You will hear how a...
What if the secret to sustainable leadership is not working harder, but leading from deeper faith? In this episode, Daniel and Norival explore compelling insights from Barna research on faith driven CEOs and what sets them apart in today’s demanding leadership environment. The conversation uncovers why leaders who prioritize faith, excellence, growth, and healthy culture often experience less burnout and greater long term impact. You will discover the core values that consistently show up in ...
What happens when faith becomes the driving force behind your leadership? In this episode, Daniel and Norival explore powerful insights from a Barna study on faith-forward CEOs and what truly distinguishes them in today’s marketplace. This conversation dives into how purpose reshapes business strategy, company culture, and personal fulfillment. You will hear why many Christian executives see their organizations as platforms for influence and blessing, not just revenue generation. The episode ...
What happens when the next wave of church leadership arrives faster than the handoff? In this episode, Daniel and Norival wrap up their conversation on Carey Nieuwhof's church leadership trends for 2026 by diving into two urgent realities: aging senior pastors and the accelerating AI revolution. You will hear why many leaders feel a growing tension around succession, trust, and readiness, along with a candid look at why some older leaders struggle to release responsibility and why young...
What if the biggest threat to discipleship is quietly living in your pocket? In this episode, Daniel sits down with Norival to continue their conversation around Carey Nieuwhof's seven church trends for 2026, focusing on three pressure points every Christian leader is feeling right now: evangelism, discipleship, and preaching. You’ll hear why evangelism is becoming bolder and more personal, and why inviting someone to church is good but not the same as sharing the gospel. They unpack ho...
Something unexpected is happening in the church, and thoughtful leaders are paying attention. After years of decline, Gen Z is beginning to re-engage with faith, while long-standing models of church and discipleship are being quietly reshaped. In this episode of the History Makers Leadership Podcast, Daniel is joined by Norival Trindaji, ILI Vice President of Training, to explore key church trends shaping 2026 and beyond. Drawing from current research and lived leadership experience, they unp...
Most leadership failures do not begin in public moments. They start in the quiet places of the heart. In this episode, we explore why lasting, Christ honoring leadership must be rooted in a healthy inner life. You will be invited to reflect on the alignment between your spiritual walk and the way you lead others. The conversation challenges leaders to consider a powerful question: when you enter a room, do people experience peace or pressure? This teaching unpacks the hidden struggles that qu...
What happens when the Bible reaches one billion devices and why does it matter for your leadership today? In this episode of the History Makers podcast, host Shannon sits down with Daniel Drewski, president of ILI, to share powerful takeaways from the YouVersion one billion celebration and what it reveals about a growing hunger for truth. Daniel unpacks surprising insights about who is actually using the Bible app, why trust in institutions is fading, and how relationships are becoming the fr...
What if the pressure to move faster is actually holding your leadership back? In this episode, we explore a powerful and timely truth for Christian leaders navigating new seasons, complex decisions, and constant demands: hurry is not a sign of faithfulness, it is a liability. This conversation invites you to rethink how urgency shapes your leadership and to embrace what Scripture points us toward again and again, a sacred pace rooted in trust, discernment, and intimacy with God. You will lear...
What if the most powerful ministry you lead starts at your table and not your calendar? Today, we explore the biblical heartbeat of hospitality and connect it to real stories from around the world where unhurried welcome turned strangers into family. We get practical about leading with a sacred pace in a culture addicted to speed. You’ll hear how a humble espresso machine became a discipleship tool, why margin is a spiritual discipline, and how to discern when an interruption is actual...
In this special best-of and revisted episode of the History Makers Leadership Podcast, host Daniel Drewski returns to a powerful conversation with David Daniels to highlight two essential leadership priorities: identifying future leaders and developing them through the Five C’s of Leadership. One of the greatest challenges facing today’s Christian leaders is the ability to recognize, develop, and empower the next generation. Without a clear framework for identifying leadership potential and ...
What if real transformation begins not with better plans, but with a renewed mind? In this episode, Rob from InLight Consulting invites leaders into a deeper conversation about faith, surrender, and leading through seasons of change when clarity feels just out of reach. Grounded in Romans 12:2, this discussion explores how true transformation happens when our thinking is reshaped by the Holy Spirit rather than driven solely by logic, strategy, or control. Rob contrasts traditional corporate c...
What does it look like when faith moves beyond belief and into every part of life and leadership. In this episode, Rob Streetman shares the defining moments that reshaped his understanding of discipleship and transformed how he leads in both ministry and the marketplace. Rob opens up about the power of story and testimony in spiritual formation, explaining why discipleship is meant to be lived, modeled, and shared rather than simply taught. He offers practical insight on the importance of spi...
What if the global Church is more hopeful than the headlines suggest? In this episode, Daniel sits down with Norival to unpack new findings from the Lausanne Movement’s global survey—input from roughly 1,100 Christian leaders across 120 countries, organized into seven key insights. Together, they explore a real tension leaders are feeling: many believe the Church’s outlook has declined compared to five years ago, yet there’s also a growing sense of hope for the future—especially among younger...
What does Christian persecution really look like on the ground in Nigeria, and how should leaders respond with faith and courage? In this sobering, but hope-filled episode, Shannon sits down with Jerry Anze to help us move beyond the headlines and statistics into the lived reality of believers facing violence, kidnappings, and ongoing insecurity throughout the nation of Nigeria. Jerry even shares his own personal context and stories that reveal the human impact, the resilience of the Ch...
What makes a leader so influential that their impact lingers long after they leave the room? In this inspiring episode, Daniel and Norival draw from more than 40 years of combined leadership across churches, nonprofits, and the marketplace to unpack the habits that define truly influential Christian leaders. From daily spiritual rhythms to the power of consistency, they share practical disciplines that shape character, deepen trust, and strengthen long-term impact. Daniel and Norival also exp...
What does it take to raise and disciple the next generation in a world shaped by rapid change, cultural tension, and emerging technology? In this powerful conversation, Norival Trindade sits down with Timothy Thagana of Nairobi, Kenya to explore what Christian leadership looks like among millennials and Gen Z today. Timothy shares his personal journey—from growing up in a Christian home to experiencing a church-led rite of passage that shaped his identity, faith, and calling. He unpacks how K...
What does it take to hand off a movement without losing momentum? In this inspiring episode, Bishop David Muniri Thagana shares how Gospel Outreach Assembly (GOA) grew from five small churches to a thriving network of 270 congregations across seven African nations, along with eight children’s homes serving over 400 children. Bishop Thagana opens up about his passion for mentoring the next generation, the heart behind GOA’s Vision 2055, and the launch of his new foundation—focused on empowerin...
What if one person’s faith could transform entire communities—and even nations? In this inspiring episode, Bishop David Muniri Thagana shares how God led him from a traditional upbringing to founding Glory Outreach Assembly (GOA)—a movement reaching across Africa and beyond. You’ll hear how a single Bible in high school and a burden for the unreached sparked a vision that grew from just five churches in 2001 to more than 270 today. Bishop Thagana opens up about caring for orphans (now over 1...
What if profit is only the side effect? We sit down with Houdou Sefande to unpack a bold vision for building in Africa—one that replaces handouts with investment, trades shortcuts for integrity, and treats customers as people first. Houdou shares why he calls himself a problem solver and how that identity reframes everything: market research becomes listening, sales become service, and growth becomes a byproduct of solving meaningful problems. What sets a kingdom entrepreneur ap...
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