Borderlands Trail (+ Ultra) Running

Josh flew to Bell Buckle, TN to interview Lazarus Lake (aka Gary Cantrell) at his home and backdrop to Big's (and Little's) Backyard Ultra.There are three scenes to The Lazarus Lakes Interviews and in this first one they discuss the races. You all know about Barkleys Marathons and the Backyard Ultras but what about the other races like the Vol State 500k or the now deceased Idiot's Run? Or ARFTA (a race for the ages)?To anyone who knows of Laz Lake, you will not be surprised to learn that this interview was a wild ride in and of itself. He rarely speaks concretely, almost everything is metaphorical. And once you accept that you understand that he's rarely simply talking about a tree or a cave or Jesse James' gold.Josh went into this interview planning to uncover a PT Barnum type or an artist standing at a canvas. Instead, he found a scientist in a laboratory whose lab rats are actually ultrarunners.He's tinkering with variables looking to uncover elements of the human spirt on one hand and on the other, he's at face value.He's a country boy born in Texas and raised in Oklahoma and Tennessee.Presented by Kiprun.With support from Like the Wind Magazine + Hyperlyte Liquid Performance.----For behind the scenes and uncut content from this interview, go to our Patreon.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

Dean Karnazes brings light to the world through running. Dean's books and myth motivated many to start running for the first time or pushed them to run further.He's been an amassador for running the world over and on a scale no other runner has enjoyed. In this episode we dive into his appearances on Conan O'briend, David Letterman, and the ESPYs. When he started running it was much simpler. It was really just a pair of shoes and a place to run. But that's not necessarily the good old days. Today there are more people running than ever. And because foundational he believes that running is a gift to all who do it, the growth in every aspect of the industry is net good. Presented by Kiprun.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

Scott Jurek represents a generation of ultratrail runners who either had day jobs or were true dirtbag trail runners. Scott and Josh Rosenthal dive into the 'good old days' of trail running when a lot of the gear was DIY like punk rock or skateboarding. Presented by Kiprun.Scott Jurek and Y2KDIY: Ultrarunners, Punk Rock, and SkateboardingRunners have it easier with gear advancesAthlete mentality is shifting in a sterile directionMental resilience in ultra runningThe lasting bonds of competing in ultratrailThe commercialization of Ultratrail RunningDespite changes, the essence of running remains accessible to everyone.This conversation explores the evolution of ultra running, reflecting on personal experiences from the Y2K era to the present day. Josh Rosenthal and Scott Jurek discuss the changes in gear, the competitive landscape, and the importance of community within the sport. They emphasize the mental resilience required for ultra running and celebrate the friendships formed through shared experiences. Despite the commercialization of the sport, the essence of running remains accessible and fulfilling for all.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

Nils Arend started The Speed Project and it continues to bring light into the world through running.[Presented by Kiprun]Josh and Nils sit on a Rugby Field in Albi, FR at midnight to talk about the origin story of TSP and what it means to so many.Yes, TSP is an ultrarunning event but its not an 'ultrarunning' event. Its not in the ultrarunning zeitgeist, its a zeitgeist all its own.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

Monday, 22 Dec 2025 marks a new beginning for Borderlands' podcast presented by Kiprun.We've had a helluva a run and now I'm doubling down on the things I believe will take us to the next level. Tune in to find out.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

Allie Gibbons ran The Speed Project in the Atacama Desert while 22 weeks pregnant. Prior to that, she ran Bigfoot 200 in the Washington wilderness after just learning that she was pregnant. Presented by Kiprun.In this conversation, they discuss the challenges of ultra running, the unique experience of being pregnant during such a demanding race, and the mental and physical preparations required. Allie shares insights on health monitoring, the emotional waves experienced during long races, and the camaraderie found within the ultra running community. The conversation also touches on the transition from road to trail running and the competitive spirit that drives athletes in these extreme conditions.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

Josh Rosenthal and Inky Steve explore the future of running gear, discussing innovations in shoe design, the impact of cultural elements like movies on running, and the competitive landscape of brands in the industry. [Presented by Kiprun]They share insights from the TRE event, highlight the rise of smaller brands, and reflect on their experiences with various running products, including the Naked belt. The discussion emphasizes the importance of community and personal preferences in the running world.Brands discussed:NordaKiprunSpeedlandNike / acgMerrellSalomonTantrumsSAYSKYMount to Coast----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

I still consider myself a trail runner even though I never run on trails. I'm trail runner-ish. There are a lot of people bringing light into the world through running. Let's talk about a few of them - Tommy Lewis, Josh Lynott, Nils Arend, Dean Karnazes, and more.Presented by Kiprun.Yes, we're presented by Kiprun but I also think they are the next big running brand coming out of France. Salomon and Hoka both started here. If Kiprun build momentum and iterate/improve year after year on the portfolio they just released, they will be in the brass ring.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

At the beginning of 2025 did an episode where we looked at a bunch of brands and trends in trail running and evaluated if we were optimistic about their future (buy) or pessimistic (sell)[Presented by Kiprun]In this episode I review my predictions and assess if they were right or wrong on these topics: SatisfyAravaipaKetones----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026Presented by Kiprun.

The Dude Abides and would probably never wear trail running shoes. But we love this movie too much so Josh asked Inky, what shoes go best with The Big Lebowski? Slides. Super chill running recover slides.There's a boom in them right now. You see them popping up all over the place and there's actually some innovation happening.But at the end of the day, The Dude would wear the hell out of some recover slides and we have a blast exploring it.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

Mike Herrera and MxPx have been playing for 30 years. I was there from the beginning so I was stoked to do this interview with an all time great and hero of mine.[Presented by Naked Sports Innovations]Mike knows a thing or two about endurance and keeping on when life and circumstances get you down.Enjoy.----Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

I stopped using strava and found 7 bugs that ended up being features. [Borderlands TRE event - RSVP here]Here are the bugs. Listen to find out how these became features.I don't run as farI don't run as fastI can't review my performanceI can't reminsce on old runsI can't be impressiveI'm losing structureI don't have receipts for my runsPresented by Naked Sports Innovations----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B

James Lauriello joined Josh to talk trail running from multiple angles. James is the host of the Steep Stuff Podcast and an athlete for La Sportiva. the Professionalization of Trail RunningWho is the Alex Honnold of Trail Running?Is the fan base growing?Every trail runner should run the cirque seriesWho is the GOAT of sub-ultra?Presented by Naked Sports Innovations----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersHyperlyte Liquid Performance - 100g Carbs, 1000mg Sodium, Miles of DirtNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B

Ryan Becker runs for Naked Sports Innovations and competes at the highest level in mountain running. He brings an honest and analytical view of the sport that feels fresh and from the heart. In this episode they discuss the difference between being a pro runner and an elite runner.You don't have to be a pro running fan to enjoy this episode.Ryan runs for Naked Sports Innovations----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersHyperlyte Liquid Performance - 100g Carbs, 1000mg Sodium, Miles of DirtNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B

Let's put Taylor Bodin to the test. Josh went to Running Warehouse and selected some top sellers and quized Taylor. How did he do?Also, we dove into Mount to Coast. Presented by Naked Sports InnovationsTaylor Bodin is the Believe in the Run's Dirt Division.----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersHyperlyte Liquid Performance - 100g Carbs, 1000mg Sodium, Miles of DirtNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B

I've never interviewed someone so at peace with themselves. This interview with Ian Morgan felt real and honest and kind. There's something in his eyes that I think we all want. [Presented by Naked Sports Innovations]In this interview we talk about his relationship with alcohol, the sedentary life, and the way he left it behind. He also died once while running and came back to life to tell the story.Take this episode with you on a run to find inspiration to keep going. ----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersHyperlyte Liquid Performance - 100g Carbs, 1000mg Sodium, Miles of DirtNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B

Brett Harrison started Red Knot Racing Co. as an expression of his heart for Tanzania, Tanzanians, and running.  His first mission, however, is not running.  It's community development.[Presented by Naked Sports Innovations]Brett moved to Tanzania in 2009 where, among other things, he helped improve agricultral practices.  But over time, his staff grew to 15 local Tanzanians who started putting on endurance events at the base of Kilimanjaro and to this day is the only organization permitted to do them year after year.But again, its not about the races.  Races are a means of community development.To an outsider, you see world class events and assume he's building something to sell to UTMB or building an empire for empire's sake.  He's not.  He's building something to positively impact the lives of Tanzanians.By the way, Red Knot puts on the largest outdoor sports festival in East Africa with 1,500 attendees.Check out Red Knot Racing and Red Knot Development. ----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersHyperlyte Liquid Performance - 100g Carbs, 1000mg Sodium, Miles of DirtNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B

Borderlands Trail Running began 2025 planning to grow the podcast by 10x by year's end. How are we looking?Presented by Naked Sports InnovationsIn this episode we take a quick inventory of the whole thing. What's happeing with Borderlands' media arm, our mobile app, Wylder, our race organization Open Range Races? Tune in to find out. And if you're in the family, please give 5 star reviews on your podcast platform(s) of choice. ----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersHyperlyte Liquid Performance - 100g Carbs, 1000mg Sodium, Miles of DirtNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B

Jason Schlarb started his running career ~15 years ago when the frontier of ultrarunning was much less developed. [Presented by Naked Sports Innovations]Today, while still running at an elite level himself, Jason is managing the Norda athlete team in a way that was impossible through most of his career.Josh and Jason had a chat in a loud restaurant after a hard (for Josh) run in Annecy, France celebrating the Norda 005s along with French running store Quatorze.----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersHyperlyte Liquid Performance - 100g Carbs, 1000mg Sodium, Miles of DirtNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B

Rocky Raccoon is an iconic rooty and rootsy East Texas race that many great runners run as a right of passage. Presented by Naked Sports InnovationsJordan rightfully places Rocky Raccoon 100 in the upper eschelon of Texas Trail ultrarunning races comparing its endless loops to Lightnin' Hopkins and the endless 12 bar blues. Thanks to our special guests: Zach Bitter, Joe Prusaitis, PJ Izaguirre, Brandon Dutra, and Chris McWatters.----Patreon | BtS Building BorderlandsBorderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letter Hyperlyte Hotline - RUNMORE649 (786.667.3649)Wylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026PartnersHyperlyte Liquid Performance - 100g Carbs, 1000mg Sodium, Miles of DirtNaked Sports Innovations - I wear this running belt EVERY TIME I RUN.______________RUNNING GEARNaked Running Band Path Projects Apparel La Sportive Prodigio Pro PODCAST GEAROSMO Pocket 3 Shure MV7 Neewer MS60B