The Good Divorce® Show

What if you could actually insure your child support and alimony? In this episode, Karen sits down with Ron Platt, co-founder of the National Association for Single and Divorced Families (NASDF), to introduce a first-of-its-kind organization built to support people at every stage of divorce — before, during, and long after the paperwork is signed. Ron shares the origin story of NASDF's groundbreaking insurance product, which is designed to guarantee child support and alimony payments in the event of death, disability, or involuntary unemployment — a concept 30 years in the making that his late father first dreamed up.But before we get to the business, Ron gets personal. As a child of divorce himself, he shares a surprisingly warm story of immigrant parents whose relationship actually improved after their marriage ended — a real-life example of "the good divorce." Ron also opens up about his own painful 14-year relationship, his journey through grief and therapy, and how he ultimately did the work to break old patterns and find unconditional love. His story is a reminder that divorce, as hard as it is, can be the catalyst for profound personal growth.Beyond insurance, Ron paints an ambitious vision for NASDF as the "Costco of associations" — a growing membership community that aims to negotiate discounts on everything from diapers and daycare to car purchases and legal fees for divorced and single-parent families. He also touches on their advocacy work in foster care reform and their commitment to serving all families — men and women, same-sex couples, and those "married by mortgage." Find NASDF at nasdf.org and, as Ron puts it: there is light at the end of the tunnel, but you gotta do the work.📚 If you're enjoying the podcast, be sure to grab Karen's new book: The Good Divorce: How to End Your Marriage Without Ending Your Family

Living across two homes doesn't have to feel like navigating a minefield — but it does take intention, communication, and a willingness to loosen your grip a little. In this episode of The Good Divorce Show, Karen McNenny gets practical about the day-to-day logistics of co-parenting, sharing real strategies that make life smoother for both parents and kids.Karen introduces the "boomerang 🪃 folder" — a simple but powerful tool for keeping both co-parents in the loop on everything from permission slips to test grades — and explains why letting both parents celebrate (and address) school milestones together matters more than you might think.She also tackles the gear question: how to handle belongings moving between homes without turning your kids into little luggage carriers.From Sunday transition timing to flexible residential schedules, Karen makes the case that the best co-parenting plans aren't rigid — they're rooted in relationship. When Uncle Bob and Aunt Betty come to town, or a work conference throws the calendar off, a foundation of mutual respect means you can actually problem-solve instead of power-struggle.At the heart of this episode is Karen's core philosophy: divorce is a family event first and a legal event second. Stabilize the family, protect the co-parent relationship, and the logistics — schedules, gear, transitions, and all — become so much more manageable.📚 If you're enjoying the podcast, be sure to grab Karen's new book: The Good Divorce: How to End Your Marriage Without Ending Your Family

Strategy, Lending, and Faith with Jody BrunsIn this episode, host Karen McNenny sits down with Jody Bruns, founder of the Certified Divorce Lending Professional (CDLP) designation and the Divorce Lending Association. With over 35 years in mortgage and finance — and having navigated her own divorce — Jody shares how she turned personal pain into a profession dedicated to helping divorcing homeowners make smarter, more strategic decisions about their most valuable asset.Jody and Karen dig into why the family home is far more than a financial transaction — it's an emotional anchor, a symbol of stability for children, and often the most complex piece of a divorce settlement. Jody explains how her CDLPs are trained to ask the deeper "why" before ever pulling out a loan application, and she walks through the real risks of keeping a home you can't truly afford, illustrated by her memorable story of a baseball mom in Colorado who needed to hear an honest conversation about priorities.The conversation gets into the nuts and bolts of divorce mortgage planning: the difference between a legal transfer assumption and a qualified loan assumption, how spousal support income affects mortgage qualification timing, why settlement agreement language can inadvertently block financing, and the complexity of 1031 exchanges during divorce. Jody also flags a key red flag for listeners: if a mortgage professional goes straight for a loan application without asking questions about your situation, walk away.Jody recently published a devotional book, Anchored in Faith: A Devotional Journey Through Divorce, to support those navigating the emotional and spiritual dimensions of divorce. Listeners can find a CDLP in their area, access resources, and connect with Jody through the links below.Links & Resources:🔗 Jody Bruns: jodybruns.com📸 Instagram: @jodybrunsofficial🏠 Find a CDLP + Resources: https://www.divorcelendingassociation.com🎙️ Jody's Podcast: Divorce, Real Estate and Mortgage Strategies📖 Jody's Book: Anchored in Faith: A Devotional Journey Through Divorce📘 Karen's Book: The Good Divorce: How to End Your Marriage Without Ending Your Family🎓 Good Divorce Academy: Online community & classroom💻 Work with Karen: thegooddivorcecoach.com

Author and solo‑parenting essayist Melissa Stevenson joins Karen to share the remarkable, nonlinear journey that reshaped her family after divorce. Melissa reflects on the years leading up to her separation, the unexpected reality of becoming a full‑time single parent when her children’s father moved out of state, and the emotional labor of creating stability during a time when nothing felt predictable. She describes the early conversations with her young kids, the importance of age‑appropriate honesty, and the quiet, daily work of building a home—literally and figuratively—where her children could feel safe, rooted, and held.Now more than a decade later, Melissa’s story offers a hopeful look at how a post‑divorce family can evolve. She talks about her ex‑husband’s eventual return to Missoula, the slow rebuilding of trust, and the surprising joy of shared birthdays and holidays that her children’s friends can hardly believe are possible. Melissa also opens up about blending households with her current partner and the three‑kid constellation they now navigate together. Her journey is a testament to resilience, creativity, and the belief that divorce, handled with intention, can lead to a life that is not just repaired—but transformed.Resources:Order Karen’s new book: The Good Divorce 

Welcome to season 4 of The Good Divorce Show, where Karen McNenny discusses her journey into divorce coaching, the importance of focusing on family during divorce, and the launch of new initiatives, including the Good Divorce Academy and Karen’s upcoming book, The Good Divorce: How to End Your Marriage Without Ending Your Family. She emphasizes the need for a supportive community and education to navigate the complexities of divorce, aiming to change the narrative around it. 📖 Order Karen’s new book: The Good Divorce 

In this conversation, Karen McNenny, a divorce consultant, discusses the importance of maintaining a positive co-parenting relationship post-divorce. She emphasizes the need for parents to create a supportive environment for their children, encouraging them to celebrate their other parent and share experiences. Through practical strategies like creating family photo collages, maintaining communication threads, and celebrating special occasions together, Karen illustrates how parents can foster a sense of unity and emotional well-being for their children amidst the challenges of divorce.

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show, Karen McNenny speaks with Rhonda Noordyk, a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, about the financial aspects of divorce. They discuss the role of CDFAs, the importance of forensic accountants, and how women can navigate their financial stability post-divorce. Rhonda emphasizes the need for financial education, the role of vocational experts, and practical budgeting tips for those transitioning to single-income households. The conversation also touches on empowering women to take control of their finances and the importance of teaching financial literacy to children.RHONDA NOORDYKwww.linkedin.com/in/rhondanoordyk/podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrupting-divorce-conversations-for-women/id1368648405womensfinancialwellnesscenter.com/www.facebook.com/wfwcdivorce/www.instagram.com/rhondanoordyk/www.youtube.com/c/RhondaNoordyk

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show, Karen McNenny speaks with Andrea Vacca, a collaborative divorce attorney and mediator, about the importance of non-adversarial divorce. They discuss Andrea's journey from traditional litigation to a more compassionate approach to family law, the impact of divorce on families, and the significance of choosing the right process for divorce. Andrea shares insights on rebuilding trust, the challenges people face in leaving unhappy marriages, and the role of professionals in supporting families through divorce. The conversation also includes case studies illustrating successful navigation of high-conflict situations and emphasizes the ripple effect of divorce on relationships.ANDREA VACCA- www.vaccalaw.com/- www.facebook.com/VaccaFamilyLaw- www.instagram.com/vacca_familylaw/- www.linkedin.com/company/vacca-family-law-group/- www.youtube.com/@andreavaccanewyork/

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show, host Karen McNenny speaks with Ed Vargo, a financial expert dedicated to empowering women through the complexities of divorce. They discuss Ed's personal experiences with divorce, the importance of financial literacy, and the emotional challenges faced during the divorce process. Ed shares transformative stories of women who have navigated their divorces and emerged empowered, emphasizing the need for knowledge and preparation. The conversation also highlights the role of a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and the importance of finding the right support during this challenging time.ED VARGO, CFP®, CDFA®, ChFC®, AIF®linkedin.com/in/edvargohttps://enlightenher.com/

In this conversation, Karen McNenny, the Good Divorce Coach, discusses the transformative potential of divorce when approached with the right mindset. She emphasizes that divorce should not be viewed as a weapon but rather as a tool for positive change, particularly in the context of parenting and family dynamics. The discussion covers the adversarial nature of the legal system, the financial implications of divorce, and the importance of prioritizing family over finances. Karen advocates for a more dignified approach to divorce that focuses on the well-being of children and encourages personal growth. She concludes with a call to action for those considering divorce to seek support and explore healthier pathways.

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show℠, Karen McNenny speaks with attorney Matthew J. Long about the transformative journey from litigation to mediation in divorce. They discuss the emotional challenges faced by families during divorce, the importance of a collaborative approach, and how mediation can provide a more supportive environment for parents and children. Matthew shares his experiences in family law, the misconceptions surrounding divorce, and the critical role of communication and curiosity in the mediation process. The conversation emphasizes the need for professional guidance and the importance of prioritizing the well-being of children throughout the divorce process.CONNECTMatthew J. LongDivorce Mediation and Collaborative Divorce in Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, and Ventura counties (CA)matthewjlong.comfacebook.com/MediationandCollaborativeDivorce/linkedin.com/in/matthew-j-long-b027a047/

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show, Karen McNenny speaks with financial expert Melissa Murphy Pavone about the financial aspects of divorce. They discuss the importance of financial literacy, the implications of asset division, and the role of financial professionals in navigating divorce. Melissa shares her personal experiences and insights on how to make informed decisions during this challenging transition, emphasizing the need for a collaborative approach to divorce that prioritizes the well-being of all parties involved.Connect with Melissa Murphy Pavone, CFP®, CDFA®linkedin.com/in/melissamurphypavone/https://mindfulfinancialpartners.com/

In this episode, Karen McNenny speaks with Jeremiah Wallace, a seasoned stepfather and host of the podcast 'Navigating the Blended Family Experience.' They discuss the complexities of blended families, the emotional challenges faced by step-parents, and the importance of communication and patience in creating a harmonious family environment. Jeremiah shares his personal journey, insights on parenting, and advice for biological fathers on how to embrace new relationships while prioritizing their children. The conversation emphasizes the value of understanding, curiosity, and the long-term commitment required in blended family dynamics.Jeremiah WallaceJeremiah Wallace has been a stepfather for over 10 years and he has been providing support and instruction for those that are also navigating the blended family experience for the last 9 years. https://www.facebook.com/navigatingtheblendhttps://www.instagram.com/navigatingtheblendhttps://open.spotify.com/show/18lHa6yAxTv4I8weoq3q4i?si=4b3843adc4714814https://linktr.ee/jeremiahwallace

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show℠, Karen McNenny engages in a heartfelt conversation with Cheryl Pankhurst and Rosario Greco about their experiences navigating divorce and co-parenting. They discuss the challenges and triumphs of maintaining a positive relationship for the sake of their children, the impact of divorce on family dynamics, and the importance of communication and support systems. The conversation highlights the significance of a kid-centered perspective and the lessons learned over the years, ultimately providing hope and inspiration for families going through similar journeys.Connect with Cheryl PankhurstCherylPankhurst.comPodcast: Teen Minds Redefined - Real Talk for Today's Parentsfb.com/cheryl.a.pankhurstinsagram.com/cheryl.a.pankhurstlinkedin.com/in/cheryl-ann-pankhurst-1b611855/youtube.com/@cherylpankhurstConnect with RosarioRGStyles.calinkedin.com/in/rosario-greco-13457346/fb.com/RosarioGrecoStyles/

In this conversation, Karen McNenny and Patrick Duganz explore the critical role of fathers in the context of divorce and parenting. They discuss the challenges fathers face, the importance of father engagement for child development, and how the court system often reinforces traditional gender roles. Patrick shares insights from his experience as a Father Engagement Specialist, emphasizing the need for support and resources for dads. The discussion also touches on the grieving process associated with divorce and the importance of redefining relationships for successful co-parenting. Patrick also shares his personal journey through divorce and how it has shaped his work. He discusses the emotional complexities of divorce, the importance of maintaining respectful co-parenting relationships, and the benefits of a 'good divorce' approach. Patrick emphasizes the need for support among fathers and the significance of blending families thoughtfully. He also shares a poignant case study of a father navigating the challenges of parenting after a tumultuous separation, highlighting the importance of community and understanding in the parenting journey.PATRICK DUGANZhealthygallatin.org/family-health/for-dads/fatherhood.gov/dadication

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show™, host Karen McNenny speaks with Michael Flores, a licensed professional counselor and founder of Brighter Possibilities Family Counseling. They discuss the complexities of divorce, focusing on the emotional journeys of families, particularly the unique experiences of fathers, the importance of attachment theory, and the detrimental effects of parental alienation. Michael shares insights on how to navigate co-parenting, the significance of forgiveness, and the need for love and grace in the healing process. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding family dynamics and the role of effective communication in fostering healthier relationships post-divorce.ABOUT MICHAEL FLORES, MA, LPC-SFounder of Brighter Possibilities Family Counseling located in Fort Worth, TXBrighterPossibilitiesFC.comClasses: brighterpossibilitiesfc.com/classesInstagram.com/brighterpossibilitiesfcFacebook.com/brighterpossibilitiesfcYoutube.com/@brighterpossibilitiesfc

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show, Karen McNenny and Jennifer Delliquadri discuss the complexities of navigating parenting during and after divorce, particularly focusing on adolescents. They explore the challenges of co-parenting across two homes, the impact of divorce on children's emotional well-being, and the importance of effective communication between parents. Jennifer shares insights on supporting neurodivergent children and emphasizes the need for personal transformation in parents to better support their kids. The conversation highlights the resilience of children and the significance of adapting parenting styles to meet their needs.About Jennifer DelliquadriJennifer Delliquadri is a certified life coach, purpose-driven mentor, and founder of Subtle Shifts. With a background in psychology, education, and trauma-informed practices, she specializes in helping women in midlife navigate burnout, people-pleasing, and unfulfilled lives to create more joy and balance. Jennifer is passionate about guiding women through personal transformations, empowering them to reconnect with their feminine power and embrace meaningful change. When she's not coaching, Jennifer enjoys exploring the Pacific Northwest with her family and dogs.Instagram.com/jennifer.delliquadriwww.jenniferdelliquadri.com

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show™, Karen McNenny speaks with Karen Covy, a lawyer turned divorce coach, about the complexities of divorce and the importance of navigating it with clarity and support. They discuss the flaws in the family court system, the significance of coaching before legal action, and how to design a divorce that minimizes conflict and promotes respect. Covy shares her journey into divorce law, the realities of divorce court, and the value of organization and preparation in the divorce process. The conversation emphasizes the need for collaboration between coaches and lawyers to provide the best outcomes for clients, ultimately empowering individuals to take charge of their divorce journey.KAREN COVYKaren Covy is a Divorce Coach, Lawyer, Mediator, Author, Speaker and Podcaster. She coaches six, seven, and eight figure professionals and business owners all over the world to make clear, confident decisions during highly-charged emotional situations. Karen helps her clients become the CEOs of their own divorce, so they can navigate through this difficult life transition with less conflict, less expense, and less damage to themselves and their children. Karen is the author of When Happily Ever After Ends: How to Survive Your Divorce Emotionally, Financially, and Legally. She is also the creator of the online divorce programs, The Divorce Road Map 3.0 and How to Successfully Mediate Your Divorce. She is the host of the podcast, Off the Fence: Mastering Decision-Making Divorce and More. You can connect with Karen on Facebook, Instagram, X, LinkedIn and YouTube, as well as on her website at karencovy.com.https://karencovy.com/https://www.facebook.com/KarenCovyhttps://www.instagram.com/karencovylawyer/https://www.linkedin.com/in/karencovy/https://karencovy.com/podcast/

In this episode of The Good Divorce Show™, host Karen McNenny speaks with Brynn Ungerleider, CEO of Premier Nanny Network, about the vital role of nannies in supporting families, especially those navigating divorce. Brynn shares her personal experiences as a child of divorce and as a divorced parent, emphasizing the importance of communication, respect, and routine in co-parenting. The conversation highlights practical strategies for managing shared parenting responsibilities and the emotional well-being of children during transitions. Brynn also discusses the misconceptions surrounding nannies and their value in enhancing family dynamics and providing support to parents.ABOUT BRYNNOwner of Premier Nanny Network - a National Nanny and Elder Care Agency, Professional Nanny and Household Manager, Parent & Teen CoachFrom BrynnAside from my parents undergoing a tumultuous divorce, I have also been divorced, and most importantly, I have worked for many families of divorce. As a former professional nanny and household manager of over twenty years, I have seen first hand the effects of divorce on children and their families. By offering consistent, reliable care, I was able to assist children through the ups and downs of navigating their new normal while also contributing a neutral mindset for both households. A resounding myth I hear is that nannies are only for the rich. In truth, nannies are the missing piece many parents are looking for to facilitate positive, loving changes in both households. From assisting gatekeeping parents who are struggling with fear and anxiety over how their children are cared for, to fostering healthy and happy co-parenting relationships, I have witnessed it all. My mission in life is to continue my efforts to ensure children are given the levels of care they deserve. After all, kids should be having fun, not acting out or struggling to survive between households. PremierNannyNetwork.comPremierNannyNetwork@gmail.comfacebook.com/profile.php?id=61558084171799instagram.com/premiernannynetworklinkedin.com/in/brynn-ungerleider-a123ba30a/

In this episode of the Good Divorce Show™, Karen McNenny speaks with Lori and David Sims, creators of the Nacho Kids Method, which aims to help blended families thrive. They share their personal journey through the challenges of blending families, the importance of understanding roles, and the evolution of relationships among stepchildren and stepparents. The conversation highlights the significance of communication, setting boundaries, and the gradual process of building healthy family dynamics. In this conversation, Lori and David Sims discuss their journey in creating the Nacho Kids Academy, a resource for blended families. They explore themes such as guilty parent syndrome, co-parenting dynamics, and the importance of building relationships within blended families. The conversation highlights the challenges and triumphs of navigating family dynamics, offering insights and advice for those in similar situations.ABOUT NACHO KIDSLori and David Sims are the creators of the Nacho Kids® Method, a revolutionary approach that helps stepparents reduce stress, improve relationships, and thrive in blended families. After coming back from the brink of divorce, they developed a method that empowers stepparents to step back from parenting roles and focus on building healthier connections.Through Nacho Kids Academy, workshops, and their podcast, Lori and David have helped thousands of stepfamilies worldwide. Their approach teaches that you can't control others, but you can control how you respond to it and how you let it affect you —a philosophy that has transformed stepfamily dynamics.Passionate about helping others find peace, Lori and David believe every blended family can thrive with the right mindset and tools.https://nachokids.com/https://www.facebook.com/NachoKidsAcademy/https://www.instagram.com/nachokids/https://nachokidsacademy.com/