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The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.


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In this episode we hear the devastating final words of Tarryn Baird in the hours and minutes before she took her own life. In a series of recordings played to the jury she can be heard asking for help with suicidal thoughts, but by the time police arrived at her home it was too late. We also heard another tape which the prosecution say is a secret recording of Tarryn being raped by her husband, Chris Trybus, but he says what’s on the tape is consensual sex. A number of the witnesses in court this week were openly emotional as they explained how they tried to help Tarryn. Subscribe via thecrimedesk.comFollow us on TikTok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Nick FaggeActors: Juliet Walsh, Chelsey Moore and Charlotte GillProducer: Chelsey RanoreEditor: Chelsey RanoreCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Nick have the evidence which the jury were told casts doubt on some of abuse Tarryn Baird says she was suffering at the hands of her husband. It’s been claimed in court that Chris Trybus was out of the country when some of the attacks took place, and that Tarryn bought a camera which she said he planted to spy on her. But we’ve also heard from her domestic violence advisor that she had bruises and she was too afraid to leave him. Subscribe via thecrimedesk.comFollow us on TikTok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Nick FaggeProducer: Chelsey RanoreCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria CecchiniActors: Rhys Hanson, Lucy Ryan and Lily-Mae Cooper A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Nick have the medical evidence from Tarryn Baird’s GP who she saw or spoke to over 100 times in two years. The notes showed she reported repeated beatings, assaults with a rope and rape at the hands of her husband, Christopher Trybus. Time and time again she was urged to end the relationship, but she said she was terrified he would find her, and it was more dangerous to leave than to stay. He argues the allegations are lies, and during one month when he’d allegedly attacked her more than once, evidence proved he wasn’t even in the country.Subscribe via thecrimedesk.comFollow us on TikTok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Nick FaggeProducer: Chelsey RanoreCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this special update episode Caroline and Nick have an insight into what Christopher Trybus will say in his defence in this trial. He claims his wife made up allegations of domestic violence and coercive control, and far from abusing Tarryn Baird he cherished her deeply. He will also say her death was not a deliberate suicide attempt, but a cry for help which went wrong. Subscribe via thecrimedesk.comFollow us on TikTok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Nick FaggeProducer: Chelsey RanoreCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Was a woman driven to kill herself after being allegedly abused by her husband? That is the question at the centre of a landmark trial which Caroline and Nick will be covering in a new Trial UK series. In this episode we hear that Tarryn Baird was 34 when she was found hanged in her garage - the prosecution say she killed herself because she was desperate to escape the violent, controlling abuse her husband subjected her to - and that makes him responsible for her death. Christopher Trybus is facing charges of manslaughter, rape and coercive control. He denies the charges and says the allegations are false. A jury will now decide. Subscribe via thecrimedesk.comFollow us on TikTok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Nick FaggeProducer: Chelsey RanoreCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Jack reveal the catalogue of police blunders which may have left the serial killer Steve Wright free to murder five women in Ipswich and raises questions about whether his latest victim, Vicky Hall, could have been saved too. A judge demanded today that Suffolk Police investigate what went wrong, after it emerged police ignored key evidence from another woman who reported Steve Wright tried to kidnap her the night before he succeeded in abducting and murdering 17-year-old Vicky in 1999. Steve Wright, who is known as The Suffolk Strangler, was then handed a life sentence with a minimum of 40 years for the cold case killing.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Jack have an exclusive interview with Criminologist Professor David Wilson. In 2008 he predicted that serial killer Steve Wright had murdered Vicky Hall years before. She was aged just 17 when she was kidnapped and murdered in 1999. It took Wright 18 years but yesterday at the Old Bailey he finally admitted it. Today we chat to David about why he was so sure Steve Wright had killed before and if there might be more victims.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the dramatic first day of the trial of serial killer Steve Wright, also known as the Suffolk Strangler, for a cold case murder in 1999. Wright was convicted of murdering five women in Ipswich in 2006 and today he pleaded guilty to the kidnap and murder of 17-year-old Victoria Wood and the attempted kidnap of another woman seven years earlier. It is the first time he has ever admitted to any of his killings. The episode features all the latest from court as well as the questions the case raises about how many other victims Wright may have killed.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Liz interview senior barrister Tim Owen KC about the news that Lucy Letby will not be facing more charges. We also have an insight into the latest documentary on her case which will be on Netflix on Feb 4.Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz HullEditor: John RogersCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Liz sit down with Dr Susan Gilby in her first interview since she was awarded £1.4 million from the NHS. Dr Gilby was appointed CEO of the Countess of Chester Hospital just after Lucy Letby was arrested, but she was then forced to resign. And then she discovered a secret plot named Project Countess had been set up to get rid of her. It's an extraordinary interview about whistleblowing, conspiracy and the shocking waste of tax payers money.Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’)Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz HullProducer: Sam MorrisCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria CecchiniA Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this emergency episode Caroline and Liz have the news that Lucy Letby will not be charged with more offences. While detectives felt there was enough evidence to charge her with 11 offences - two of murder and nine of attempted murder, the CPS disagreed. So what does it mean?Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz HullProducer: Sam MorrisEditor: Alex GrahamCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Liz bring you the sentence of Paul Doyle and play for the first time some of the shocking dashcam footage that sealed his fate. They detail how he spent time in jail as a much younger man for a serious violent offence and how his reputation now lies in tatters.They also speak to a mother and her son, who were caught up in the carnage, and who helped rescue fans trapped beneath Paul Doyle’s Ford Galaxy.And they bring you an interview with hero Dan Barr, the former soldier and supporter who ran towards danger to bring the car to a stop and who has been commended for his bravery.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Liz reveal the reason Paul Doyle changed his pleas to guilty - his own dashcam footage. The footage was played in court today and it captured the crucial 2 minutes when he rammed his car into 134 people. Some bounced off his bonnet while others were dragged under the wheels. Many of his victims were in court and they gasped as they saw the carnage he inflicted in just a few seconds.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Why did Paul Doyle lose control and smash his car into dozens of people as they celebrated Liverpool FC’s league cup win? In this episode, ahead of his sentencing hearing next week Caroline and Liz sit down with Criminologist and former Prison Governor Professor David Wilson who has a possible explanation.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Liz have the reason football fans were knocked down “like skittles” by a former marine.  It was road rage. Paul Doyle was driving through the city as dozens of people celebrated Liverpool FCs League title, but he grew agitated that families wouldn’t get out of his way and he ploughed into them in his Ford Galaxy. Today as he dramatically changed his pleas to guilty we have all the details from the court. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Guilty of harassment but Not Guilty of stalking. That’s the jury’s verdict today on Julia Wandelt’s “relentless” pursuit of the parents of Madeleine McCann. It means she could soon be released from prison and likely deported back to Poland. In this episode Caroline and Claire have all the reactions from the court, including how the McCanns said they hoped she can now get the care and support she needs. Plus we have an interview with Julia Wandelt’s father who told us how damaged she was after she was abused by her step-grandfather and he feels - like the McCanns - that he has also lost his daughter. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Today Caroline and Claire have the moment the police investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was accused of being in a state of “almost inertia”. The barrister for Karen Spragg said Julia Wandelt was treated like a “nutter” by the police when she said she might be Madeleine McCann, and they should have taken her DNA sooner. The jury were also told that people who were concerned about Madeleine’s abduction were not all “crack pots”.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Julia Wandelt accuses Gerry McCann of being involved in the abduction of his daughter Madeleine. She also says he has silenced his wife Kate and she claims officers from The Met may also have threatened her. She said she feels vulnerable since telling her story because people “don’t want the truth to come out.” But, in the final day of her giving evidence, she was accused of fabricating evidence and of creating a charade.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode Caroline and Claire have the words of Julia Wandelt as she gave evidence for the first time in her defence. She told the jury she wouldn’t have pursued the McCanns if they’d just done a DNA test. It’s also now emerged she was being advised on her media strategy by a publicist in the UK and a Psychic in the US.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode we have the words of the two women on trial. Julia Wandelt told police she was the victim and Karen Spragg accused the McCanns of organising the abduction of their daughter Madeleine. She also said she wasn’t a nasty person.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Comments (17)

Budd Jupp

The podcast starts, the presenters introduce themselves and then immediately say, "we'll be back in a second..." and it is straight into adverts. I understand the need to pay for some productions with ads but this approach is extremely poor. No thanks. It is just easier to unsubscibe.

Jan 28th
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Andrew Wilson

It really is time to put this podcast out using a thumbnail image that relates to the actual case.

Jan 17th
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Alison Atkinson

can the thumbnail for this podcast be changed? it is no longer the trial of Lucy Letby.

Nov 29th
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Alison Atkinson

can the thumbnail for this podcast be changed?

Nov 23rd
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Andrew Wilson

This has been so difficult to listen to. Why was this ever allowed to be taken to court?

Oct 22nd
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Valeria Marzullo

such a confusing episode, it sounds like they've either repeated a lot of info or edited twice the same content?

Feb 4th
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Jan 29th
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Catriona Blackburn

the music is annoying plus a 3rd of the podcast is adverts and a long long intro

Nov 7th
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Debs Intrepid Winthropington

great podcast

Nov 1st
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Alissa Maxwell

the James _______ murder trial? Baldwin? Borden?

Oct 24th
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Maeve Annabelle

the episodes are too short

Oct 10th
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Roisin McGee

Find this so interesting to listen to but the intermittent piano music is far too loud, really puts me off continuing to listen

Sep 11th
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Saba

Liz and Caroline thank you for all the hard work!!

Sep 2nd
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Sue Britnell

My deepest condolences to all the families affected. Thank you all for bringing us this podcast. It must have been so difficult to hear the awful evidence day after day. Really interesting to hear the additional episodes eg explaining the law around court reporting etc.

Aug 23rd
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Jaymes

why am I not shocked that the expert who works in the media skirts the question regarding sensationalist headlines and makes out like the media are wholly professional. 🙄

Aug 20th
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Kerryn Miles

can u tell me has their been any similiar incidences since Lucy has been removed from the unit?

May 19th
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