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The OT - Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast
Author: Daren Phillipy
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Tune in weekly to The OT, recorded live on Zoom every Tuesday at 11:30 PST. Learn from top real estate teams closing over 100 units yearly. Gain insights into lead generation, listing tips, and team leadership. The 2nd half of the recording, those who attend the Zoom live, they are able to ask pointed questions to the guest. The OT is perfect for aspiring or seasoned team leaders looking for real estate team support. Join The OT Zoom, click this link bit.ly/theotonlyteams every Tuesday at 11:30 for indispensable guidance in building and improving your real estate team.
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Building High-Performance Real Estate Teams: Insights from Matt Miale
In the latest episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Professionals Podcast, host Daren Phillipy welcomed Matt Miale, a top-performing real estate team leader from Connecticut. Known for his direct leadership style and a proven track record of success, Matt shared invaluable insights into building and leading a high-performing real estate team.
Matt’s team of 28 full-time agents closes over 600 transactions annually, generating $170 million in volume. Their model is straightforward: focus on the basics of real estate—sign agreements, sell properties, and set appointments. By simplifying the business to its core, Matt’s team avoids distractions and maximizes efficiency.
"Real estate is a simple business," Matt says. "You’re either serving the client or finding the client."
Drawing from his background as a wrestler, Matt leads with discipline, structure, and high expectations. His team operates on a meritocracy, where rewards and recognition are directly tied to performance. Daily morning calls, team meetings, and regular accountability benchmarks keep the team aligned and productive.
For agents who don’t meet these standards, Matt is unapologetically direct: "If you cannot show up and do the job, eventually you’re going to fail." This tough-love approach is balanced with a genuine commitment to helping agents grow and succeed.
A cornerstone of Matt’s strategy is leveraging client events to strengthen relationships and generate leads. His team hosts 6-8 VIP client events annually, such as Harvest Fest, sports outings, and food truck nights.
Matt emphasizes that the true value of these events lies not in the gathering itself but in the communication and relationship-building that happen before and after. "The event is the least important part—it’s the lead-up and the follow-up where the magic happens."
By focusing on their sphere of influence, these events account for 85% of the team’s business, proving that strong relationships trump expensive lead-generation tools.
When building his team, Matt prioritizes candidates with a proven ability to overcome adversity. He believes resilience and accountability are more predictive of success than real estate experience alone.
"Hardship teaches grit," Matt explains. "And grit is what sustains long-term success."
One of Matt’s key philosophies is keeping the business simple and effective. He avoids shiny new tools and gimmicks, focusing instead on consistent prospecting, relationship-building, and following proven systems.
"Most of what people are selling you in this industry is unnecessary," he warns. "The fundamentals will always be what drives success."
Matt’s no-nonsense approach, combined with a culture of accountability and support, serves as a roadmap for real estate leaders looking to scale their teams sustainably. Key takeaways include:
Focus on Fundamentals: Simplify tasks to essentials that directly impact the bottom line.
Prioritize Relationships: Cultivate your sphere of influence through meaningful communication and events.
Set Clear Standards: Hold team members accountable while providing them the support they need to thrive.
Hire for Grit: Seek out individuals who have a track record of overcoming challenges.
For those inspired by Matt’s insights, he offers an in-depth class on building an events-based business. Connect with him on Instagram or Facebook to learn more.
Final Thoughts Matt Miale’s approach proves that with strong leadership, simplicity, and an unwavering focus on relationships, it’s possible to build a high-performing real estate team that thrives in any market. Whether you’re a team leader or an aspiring agent, his strategies are a masterclass in achieving sustainable success.
The Foundation of Team SuccessLeadership That Sets the StandardThe Power of Client EventsHiring for Resilience and ResultsSimplifying the Path to SuccessWhat Team Leaders Can LearnNext Steps and Opportunities.
The Secret to Building a Profitable Real Estate Team: Lessons from Richard Shulman
At The OT Only Teams for Real Estate, we highlight industry leaders to uncover their strategies for success. This week, we’re featuring Richard Shulman, a Los Angeles real estate titan who closed 365 units and generated $211 million in sales volume last year. However, Richard’s true achievement isn’t just his numbers—it’s building a business that’s profitable, adaptable, and sustainable.
Here’s what we can learn from his journey.
Relationships Drive Results
Richard’s business thrives on one simple principle: relationships over transactions. His primary lead source is his sphere of influence—friends, family, and past clients—not cold calls or flashy ads.
He invests time in meaningful interactions, like meeting past clients for coffee or scheduling casual lunches. These genuine connections create loyalty, drive referrals, and ensure long-term success.
For agents aiming to replicate his success, the takeaway is clear: focus on building trust and turning transactions into lasting relationships.
Crafting a High-Performing Team
Richard’s team is a carefully balanced mix of structure and flexibility. With full-time staff managing contracts, marketing, and databases, plus agents and showing assistants, his team operates smoothly.
Many of his top agents started as staff, showing his belief in hiring for potential and promoting from within. He prefers newer agents with 6–18 months of experience, finding them more open to coaching than seasoned agents with ingrained habits.
Generous compensation is another key to his success. Richard prioritizes paying well to attract and retain top talent. Staff members who transition into sales roles can earn full commissions, fostering growth and motivation.
Adapting to Change
The pandemic reshaped real estate, and Richard adapted quickly. Younger agents often favor digital prospecting over traditional methods like cold calling, and Richard supports this shift—as long as results follow.
He emphasizes accountability with practical tools, like validating activity through phone logs, while allowing agents the freedom to find what works best for them.
Profitability Over Volume
While high production numbers grab attention, Richard’s focus is on profitability. By keeping costs low and leveraging efficient lead-generation strategies, like internet advertising, he ensures financial stability.
This philosophy extends to his agents, helping them achieve financial freedom and work-life balance. Richard’s systems support professional success without sacrificing personal well-being.
Building a Winning Culture
Team culture is at the heart of Richard’s success. Weekly meetings foster communication and alignment, while ongoing training and mentorship help agents reach their potential.
Richard also encourages staff to transition into sales roles, creating a path for advancement that strengthens loyalty and builds a team deeply invested in success.
Takeaways for Real Estate Professionals
Richard Shulman’s journey offers key insights for agents and team leaders:
- **Focus on Relationships:** Build trust with your sphere of influence for sustainable growth.
- **Hire for Potential:** Coachable talent can outperform experience.
- **Embrace Change:** Adapt to new work styles while maintaining accountability.
- **Prioritize Profitability:** Focus on financial health to build a sustainable business.
- **Foster Team Culture:** Create an environment that promotes growth and collaboration.
Richard’s story proves that real estate success isn’t just about high production—it’s about building a profitable, adaptable, and fulfilling business.
Ready for more insights? Subscribe to The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast for weekly strategies from top-performing agents. Let’s grow together!
In Episode 86 of The OT, Guest Host Jay Hendrix sit down with Philadelphia team leader Matt Gorham to unpack a hard truth: most agents stay broke — not because of the market, but because of their mindset, standards, and lack of leverage.Matt leads a $60M, 175-transaction operation built on systems, virtual leverage, investor thinking, and an unapologetic commitment to raising the standard. In this episode, he breaks down:Why the buyer’s agent role is the most profitable job on a teamThe real reason portals like Zillow win (and how to defend your database)His powerful “Hate List” strategy for eliminating energy-draining tasksHow his Fix-and-List program wins listings other agents can’tWhy keeping low performers will cost you your top talentThe mindset shift that made virtual assistants a game-changerWhy white space and family time are part of true wealthMatt doesn’t sugarcoat it. He challenges agents to stop being lazy, stop outsourcing their relationships to tech companies, and start building a real moat around their business.If you’re ready to raise your standards, build leverage, and stop operating like everyone else — this episode will hit home.Listen now and learn how to be different.
What happens when two hustlers from the Hudson Valley stop winging it and start building real systems?In Episode 85 of the OT, we sit down with Dickie Baxter and Vinnie Rita, founders of Licensed 2 Sell, to unpack how they went from a “garage band” partnership to an 18-agent mega team closing 277 units and $69M in volume — all without buying leads.No Zillow.No paid lead funnels.No shortcuts.Instead, they built a culture of accountability, hosted up to 25 open houses a weekend, planned 24–30 community events a year, and created clear Rainmaker + CEO roles that allowed them to scale profitably.You’ll hear:Why they aim for 1,000 open houses a yearHow they systemized open houses so agents just “show up and perform”The mindset shift that took them from ego-driven to model-drivenHow community events turn into listings (without feeling salesy)Why they tell recruits upfront: “If you’re not willing to be uncomfortable, don’t apply.”If you’re building a real estate team — or thinking about it — this episode is packed with practical systems, leadership lessons, and real talk about what it actually takes to grow.Join us live every Tuesday at 12PM PST at onlyforteams.com and be part of the conversation.
In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, Daren Phillipy sits down with Kevin and Megan Toll of The Toll Group in Philadelphia to break down how top real estate teams are using AI, systems, and coaching to scale smarter—without burning out.The Toll Group shares how they’re using AI to call their database, gather missing client information, and support follow-up at scale—without replacing the human relationship. They dive deep into why AI should support agents, not replace them, and how it frees up time for higher-level conversations that actually lead to listings and appointments.You’ll also hear how their team closed 231 units and $71M in volume while intentionally downsizing, tightening systems, and focusing on what truly drives long-term success: database management, coaching, and leverage.In this episode, we cover:How AI follow-up works in a real real estate businessWhy most agents fail with their CRM (and how to fix it)Using AI to support database calls, texts, and data collectionCoaching-based team models vs. lead-heavy teamsHow to scale a team without sacrificing family or cultureThe long-term mindset required to build a sustainable real estate businessIf you’re a real estate agent, team leader, or broker curious about AI in real estate, database growth, or building systems that actually work, this episode is packed with practical insights you can apply immediately.👉 Join us live every Tuesday at 12 PM Pacific for the OT Only Teams Zoom Mastermind👉 Learn more at onlyforteams.com
What does it really take to scale a real estate team to the highest level?In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, Daren sits down with Scott, owner and operator of NJ Experts—one of New Jersey’s top-performing teams serving the northern NJ market and areas near New York City.Scott shares his incredible journey from starting as an unpaid intern (literally sitting on an upside-down paint bucket) to becoming the leader who helped the Sue Adler Team scale to a true seventh-level business. This conversation is packed with real-world insights on leadership, leverage, hiring the right person, and building systems that actually work.You’ll learn:How finding “your person” can unlock massive growthWhat top teams do differently when it comes to structure and accountabilityHow the Sue Adler Team approaches lead generation, call schedules, and market-specific strategyWhy culture, consistency, and long-term relationships matter more than quick winsIf you’re a real estate agent or team leader looking to grow without burning out—or wondering how to take your business to the next level—this episode is a must-listen.🎧 Tune in and learn what it really means to build a scalable, sustainable real estate team.
In this Season 3 kickoff episode of The OT: Only Teams for Real Estate, Daren Phillipy sits down with Devin Resendez, founder of The Emery Group in San Antonio, Texas — a team that closed 641 transactions and $172M in volume.Many team leaders believe spending more on leads automatically means more closings and more profit. In this episode, Devin explains why that mindset is broken — and what actually creates profitability at scale.You’ll learn:Why high lead spend doesn’t equal high profitThe real math behind lead aggregators and conversionHow The Emery Group uses Zillow, PPC, and referrals effectivelyWhy most teams fail with ISAs and accountabilityHow to build systems that protect profit while feeding agentsWhat realistic production expectations look like for buyer agentsAs Devin shares, “More leads don’t fix broken systems — better conversations do.”If you’re a team leader, rainmaker, or agent thinking about scaling with online leads, this episode will challenge your assumptions and give you a clearer path forward.🎧 New episodes every Tuesday at 12 PM PST👉 Join the live Zoom and learn more at onlyforteams.com
What does it actually look like to show real value to investors—without fancy tech, heavy automation, or complicated funnels?In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, Daren Phillipy sits down with Holly and Santiago (Santi) Speranza of Root River Realty out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Together, they break down the exact systems and mindset that helped them close nearly 300 transactions and over $53M in volume while building a scalable, investor-focused real estate team.You’ll hear how Root River:Built an investor “one-stop shop” using a simple but powerful spreadsheet systemUses email and consistency (not automation) to attract repeat investorsTurns investor tools into more listings and referralsStructures leverage across sales, listings, and operationsScales as a husband-wife team without crossing lanesUses coaching to overcome imposter syndrome and step into bigger opportunitiesThis episode is packed with practical ideas for agents and team leaders who want to:✔ Attract and retain real estate investors✔ Build systems that scale with volume✔ Create leverage without burning out✔ Run a real business—not just chase the next dealIf you’re serious about growing your business and learning from agents who are actually doing it at a high level, this is a must-listen.👉 Want to join the conversation live?Join the OT Only Teams Zoom Mastermind every Tuesday at noon PT at onlyforteams.com
In this power-packed episode, Daren Phillipy welcomes Chase Craig of City of Trees Real Estate and the Real Estate Growth Network—an OT Hall of Famer level guest who completely reframes how agents should communicate with their database.Chase reveals his now-famous “gold bar method,” showing agents how to shift from awkward, salesy calls to follow-up conversations that people actually look forward to. Instead of asking for business, you’ll learn how to deliver genuine value that sticks, converts, and compounds over time.Inside this episode, Chase breaks down:The Gold Bar Mindset: stop asking for money, start giving valueThe Database Qualifying Script that instantly clarifies who belongs in your A, B, and C groupsHow to follow up without feeling like a pestWhat to say so people WANT your callsAI tools that shortcut your touch program and elevate your professionalism instantlyChase takes you behind the curtain on his Client Appreciation Program, his 3G Genuine Agent Model, and the exact approach that helped him scale a powerhouse team and build a database that produces repeat and referral income year after year.If your database feels overwhelming, stale, or random—or if you're still making “relationship calls” without talking real estate—this episode will change the way you pick up the phone forever.Grab a gold bar before you dial.🎧 Listen now and learn how to turn every conversation into connection, loyalty, and predictable closings.
In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, Daren interviews powerhouse team leader Cindy Shetterly, whose team closed 463 sides and over $234 million last year. Cindy reveals the event system that most agents overlook — a repeatable, high-conversion approach that keeps her database engaged and her referral business thriving.You’ll hear how she executes her signature client events, why she layers in charity and community partnerships, and the follow-up model that turns events into real production. Cindy also shares her team structure, compensation models, and the leadership lessons that shaped her incredible growth.Whether you lead a team or are thinking about building one, this episode delivers practical tools and proven models you can implement immediately.Topics Covered:Cindy’s full event playbookTurning events into referral machinesHow to create massive engagement with giveawaysCharity-based branding and community impactHow her team follows up before and after eventsLeadership lessons from scaling to 463 sidesSystems, leverage, and long-term planningJoin us every Tuesday at 12 PM PST for our live OT Zoom Mastermind.Learn more at: https://OnlyForTeams.com
In this powerhouse episode, Daren sits down with Atlanta mega-producer Melanie Hunt, leader of the Hunt Home Team, who closed 121 units and $47M in the past 12 months—all while raising three kids and building a thriving real estate business.Melanie gets real about the burnout she faced early in her career and the pivotal moment when she realized she couldn’t do it all herself. She breaks down how she hired her first assistant, the painful lessons from her early misfires, and how she finally built a team structure that gave her both freedom and massive production.You’ll learn:🔥 How Melanie went from overwhelmed to fully leveraged🔥 Her step-by-step circle prospecting system that creates listing momentum🔥 The postcard + farming strategy that dominates 5,000 homes a month🔥 What makes a great Director of Operations (and how to avoid the hiring traps)🔥 How moms in real estate can release guilt and build real balance🔥 Why “your team is your client” is the mindset shift every leader needsIf you’re an agent juggling growth, family, and burnout—or if you’re building a team and want the blueprint to do it right—this episode will hit home.Listen now and learn how to shift from burnout to boss mode.
In this episode of The OT Only Teams Podcast, host Daren Phillipy sits down with Tanya Kerr, CEO of T. Kerr Property Group, to uncover how she’s using ChatGPT, Google, and smart systems to dominate her market and triple her business — even in a down year.Tanya shares her exact strategies for creating content that converts, building a $100M+ real estate team, and leading with heart. From mastering AI-driven marketing to merging two top-performing teams, this conversation is packed with practical ideas and inspiration for real estate agents ready to scale.Listen in to learn:How Tanya uses ChatGPT to attract real estate leadsThe key systems behind her $100M growthWhy “people over production” drives lasting successHow to align values and vision when merging teams💡 If you’re a real estate agent looking to grow smarter, not harder — this episode is for you.👉 Join the live mastermind every Tuesday at noon PST at OnlyForTeams.com
What does it take to build a high-production real estate team that consistently closes over 200 homes a year? In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, host Daren Phillipy sits down with Jim and Chasity Rosales, founders of the PCS Network in El Paso, Texas — a husband-and-wife powerhouse who’ve mastered the art of scaling smart.They share how they built a business around systems, standards, and strong accountability — including their “100-conversations-a-week” rule, how they turn pressure into diamonds, and the exact culture that drives their agents to success. You’ll also hear their pricing strategies for today’s shifting market, their insights on partnering with PLACE, and why they treat every agent like a business partner — not an employee.Whether you’re a solo agent thinking about building a team or a seasoned leader looking to grow faster with more efficiency, this episode is packed with wisdom and real-world strategies that work.👉 Tune in to learn how to scale smarter, lead stronger, and build a team that lasts.
In this episode of The OT – Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, host Daren Phillipy sits down with Toni VanderHayden, founder of Sold on Toni, one of the top-producing real estate teams in Rockford, Illinois.Toni shares how she turned a small-town market into a powerhouse operation built on leadership, systems, and heart. From creative client events like Jammy Day to her famous “Borrow Anything” catalog, Toni reveals how she keeps 65% of her business coming from repeat and referral clients — and how her team has stayed together for over a decade.You’ll learn how she:✅ Built a loyal team culture that lasts✅ Turned systems into fun (and profit!)✅ Uses Google reviews to dominate her market✅ Leads with accountability, compassion, and clarity“Why screw around? The book’s already here — just follow it. It works.” — Toni VanderHaydenWhether you’re leading a mega team or just starting to build one, this episode will inspire you to follow proven models, invest in your people, and create a business worth owning.🎧 Listen now and get ready to rock your real estate business!
In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, host Daren Phillipy sits down with David Gunderman, co-founder of The Gunderman Group — a powerhouse real estate team in the East Bay that’s sold over $3 billion without buying a single lead.David shares how he built one of the most trusted and recognized brands in Northern California through bold staging, masterful presentation, and a culture built on trust and integrity.You’ll learn:How to turn every listing into a marketing masterpieceWhy bold staging wins over neutral designThe secret to creating a brand that stops buyers mid-scrollHow to grow a team organically through culture and alignmentWhat David learned in his two-hour meeting with Gary Keller that changed everything“Branding is about showing who you are, what you believe in, and how you can serve your clients’ interests.” — David GundermanIf you want to build a team, elevate your listings, and grow your influence through authentic branding, this episode is a masterclass in real estate excellence.
In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, host Daren Phillipy sits down with Robert Meche, better known as The Smoker Broker, to uncover how real estate success can come from community, not cold calls.Robert shares how he went from corporate executive at Foot Locker to running one of the most respected Keller Williams teams in Texas—powered by consistency, creativity, and an unwavering commitment to support.Discover how he built a 24/7 agent support system, why he believes “lead generation is timeless,” and how simple acts like sponsoring a barbecue competition or helping a local booster club can turn into millions in sales.If you’ve ever thought your leads were “cold,” this episode will change your perspective—and your business.🎧 Listen to learn:Why most agents quit before their efforts ever pay offHow to turn community events into warm lead opportunitiesThe power of consistent follow-up and after-hours supportWhat it really means to build a team that lasts🔥 “Lead generation is timeless. You can never say it’s not working—you just don’t know yet.” – Robert Meche
What does it take to build and scale a $300 million real estate team that keeps growing year after year — and where agents never want to leave?In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, I sit down with David Snyder and Mike Faber of Center City Listings, one of the most successful real estate teams on the East Coast. Together, they share how they’ve grown to 75 team members, closed 900+ units, and expanded into four markets — all powered by an incredible mentorship program for agents, proven systems and accountability, and a culture built on growth and retention.You’ll learn:How David stepped out of production to scale the team to $300MThe mentorship model that helps new agents thrive and stayHow to create systems that support 70+ agents without chaosLeadership lessons on letting go, trusting others, and building leverageWhether you’re just starting your team or ready to scale big, this episode is packed with proven strategies to grow smarter, lead better, and build a business that lasts.🎧 Listen now — and don’t forget to subscribe to The OT on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube for more episodes with top-producing real estate teams!
What does it take to build and sustain a $100M real estate team? In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, host Daren Phillipy sits down with Christina Welch of the Welch Team in Jacksonville, Florida. Christina pulls back the curtain on how her 25-person team consistently closes over 340 units a year while retaining agents for 8+ years on average.From powerful systems like Salesforce and CallRail, to creative marketing with interns and social media, to redefining team splits and culture, Christina shares exactly what drives her team’s success. She also opens up about lessons learned from mistakes, how to attract experienced agents, and why “the team is the value.”If you’re a team leader or aspiring rainmaker who wants to scale, retain talent, and thrive in any market—this episode is packed with strategies you can implement today.
In this episode of The OT Only Teams for Real Estate Podcast, host Daren Phillipy sits down with Austin-based team leader Julie Galarrega of the Elite Team. Julie shares her philosophy that “clients are family,” and reveals how building genuine connections has fueled her business success.From unforgettable client appreciation events with 500+ attendees to powerful social media hooks that spark conversations, Julie explains the strategies that have helped her team thrive. She also opens up about lessons learned in hiring, building team culture, and protecting the values that matter most.Whether you’re an agent looking to grow through referrals, a team leader focused on culture, or simply curious about creating raving fans in real estate, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.
In this episode of the OT, Daren Phillipy talks with Josh Anderson from the Anderson Group, a Nashville-based real estate team that closed 129 units and $86 million in volume over the past year. Josh shares how he and his team are winning the "championship" with a focus on high standards and accountability.He reveals his unconventional strategy for lead generation and recruiting, using LinkedIn as a business networking platform to connect with high-net-worth clients and top talent. He explains how consistent, story-driven content is key and how he turned one-on-one conversations into content for thousands.Josh also dives into the details of their simple yet high-ROI client events, the importance of proactive lead follow-up, and the mindset required to build a team that excels. He explains that for his team, "how you do one things, how you do anything," and that while many people say they want accountability, they don't always like the level they get.This episode is a masterclass in lead generation, team culture, and the power of consistency. You won't want to miss it!Find Your Ideal Client on LinkedIn







