Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic

It’s one thing for an audience to separate the art from the artist. But what if an artist wants to keep aspects of their life separate from their art? Sasheer Zamata has spent over a decade navigating this precarious balance, from her early days on SNL to her recent turn in Agatha All Along. She joins Mo this week to discuss how she stays authentic, why she likes working with her friends, and the thrill of finding new ways to express herself. You can follow Sasheer on Instagram @thesheertruth, and keep up with her work at sasheer.com. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For actor and comedian Chris Grace, writing a solo show isn't the hard part. Neither is performing it. It's the feeling that he should always be doing more—more promotion, more show dates, or more new material—that he has to contend with. This week, Chris and Mo get into the complexities of staging a solo show—especially one at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival—treating the audience like a scene partner, and laughing in the face of death. If you want to learn more about the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and Mo's experience with their solo show (which inspired this whole podcast!) make sure to revisit our first season, where Mo chats exclusively with Fringe performers like Demi Adejuyigbe, Julio Torres, and Cat Cohen. You can follow Chris on TikTok and Instagram @chrisgracecomedy. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Writer and director Bri LeRose periodically asks herself: if a teenage Bri, living in Wisconsin, looked at her career today, would she think it was enough? And the answer's always yes: she would have thought it was the coolest thing in the world to even share space with the people she admired. Today, Bri joins Mo to discuss her comedy process, from directing titans like Maria Bamford to co-writing the groundbreaking film The People's Joker with Vera Drew; why hobbies are sometimes the best creative salves; and what it's like to work in Hollywood but live in Wisconsin. You can follow Bri on Instagram @brilerose and keep up with her work at brilerose.com! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If you’re a regular listener of Worse Than You, then you know that Albertina Rizzo is inner circle. Albertina and Mo connect through the shared philosophy that life is funny, even the sad parts. And that being funny and interested in life is the key to joy. Albs joins Mo this week to discuss writing for late night, how she follows the fun on—and off—the page, the power of anonymity, and why she’d love to buy herself a boss. Plus, a special appearance from Mo’s cat Vanya! When we asked Albertina where folks can follow her, she said, "Don't." But you can find her on Twitter and Instagram, if you're looking, or you can check out shows like I Love That For You, American Auto, and Hit-Monkey to see her writing in action. Plus, the 700+ episodes of Late Night and The Tonight Show that she's contributed to! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's not every day that we get to witness someone's process on the eve of a major creative milestone. Today's one of those special days. Join us in celebrating our dear friend Chris Renfro as they make their Broadway debut in Oh, Mary! Mo and Chris discuss how Chris landed one of Broadway's most exciting roles as Mary's Teacher, the skills they're hoping to develop off stage during their run, and how they've built a creative community every step of the way. Plus, our first evil poem! You can follow Chris on Instagram @themeatskeleton. Make sure to check out their podcast One of Us with Fin and Chris on Apple, Spotify, and beyond; here's Mo's episode of the show. And of course, go see Oh, Mary! to catch Chris in action. And make sure you're following us on Instagram @meauxpas and @worsethanyoushow for continued LA fire resources and mutual aid groups. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A note from team Worse Than You: When we recorded our first batch of episodes for season two, we had no idea that we'd be releasing them amidst the ongoing, incomprehensible fires in LA. We hope that these conversations can bring comfort to our listeners as we process this difficult time together. Make sure you're following @meauxpas and @worsethanyoushow on Instagram, where we'll continue to share mutual aid resources and other ways to get involved in support efforts. And with that, here's this week's episode, with George Civeris! George joins us for our season premiere to discuss deadlines, tech culture, and what he sees as the difference between writing jokes with punchlines and more discursive comedic vignettes. You can follow George on Instagram @georgeciveris. And you can listen to Straightiolab wherever you get your podcast. Check out Mo's appearances on the show while you're at it: "Verbal Communication" and "Money"! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Happy new year, dear friends! We figured you might want to start 2025 off with a burst of creative inspiration... and we've got you covered, with an early release from our new season, featuring Matt Rogers! Listen in as Mo and Matt reflect on their decade-long friendship, how they approach creative collaborations, and an early character of Matt's that still makes Mo crack up. Also, we've got a full video version of this episode available on Good Get's YouTube! Stay tuned for our official season premiere on Wednesday, January 15, and make sure you're subscribed so that you don't miss a beat. You can follow Matt on Instagram and TikTok @mattrogerstho, and at mattrogersofficial.com. And of course you can listen to Las Culturistas wherever you get your podcasts. Here's an appearance with Mo from 2019! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's a new year, and we've got an all new season teed up for you! We're thrilled to announce that we'll be back on Wednesday, January 15, with weekly episodes to follow. And as a special gift for our listeners, we're releasing a full episode with Matt Rogers... today! So go take a listen, and make sure you're subscribed to the show so that you don't miss a beat. Also, if nobody's told you yet this year: oh my god, you're so pretty. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Julio Torres has never let other people measure his success. This week, Julio joins Mo to discuss being a "zero waste" artist, embracing chaos and mess, and the Sex and the City scene that speaks best to his creative process. Plus, Mo shares a poem of Julio's that they've held for ten years. Julio Torres is an Emmy-nominated, Peabody-winning, and WGA-winning writer, director and comedian from El Salvador. . Most recently, he wrote, directed, executive produced and starred in HBO’s Fantasmas. You also know him from projects like his directorial feature film debut Problemista, Los Espookys, and Saturday Night Live. . His first standup special My Favorite Shapes was released on HBO in 2019… and before that, Julio performed it at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. You can learn more about the stage play Worse Than You here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What does it mean to be gay? It's a question that actor and comedian Stephen Brower is working out in his stage show Palatable Gay Robot, where he plays HumaVibe's latest humanoid creation. Listen in as Mo and Stephen discuss sharing scenes with a voiceover, distinguishing theater from therapy, and the creative power of Snoopy! The Musical. Stephen Brower is a New York City-based actor, writer, and comedian. And he's currently touring the country with his 2023 Fringe show Palatable Gay Robot! Listening to this on release day? (Good for you, we love you.) You can see him in Los Angeles TOMORROW! If you don't live in LA, or you're listening to this later (we still love you, just make sure to subscribe), here's a full list of his tour dates. For more, head to www.stephenbroweronline.com, and make sure to follow Stephen on Instagram @stephenbrower and TikTok @stephen_brower. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. You can learn more about the stage play Worse Than You here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's homecoming week for Worse Than You! Mo's back in LA and back in the saddle with their friend Greta Titelman to discuss the creative life cycle. When do we put the pen down and when do we run with the momentum; is a creation ever really complete? Greta Titelman is a comedian, actress, and writer. You know her from shows like Search Party and Los Espookys, films like Problemista, and podcasts like Senior Superlatives. She performed her hour-long show Exquisite Lies at the 2023 Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. You can learn more about the stage play Worse Than You here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, we have two very special guests on the show: Brian McElhaney and Nick Kocher, also known as BriTANicK! Listen in as the duo talks about their decades-long creative partnership, how clowns have influenced their more recent work, and the "horrendous finale" that Edinburgh audiences couldn't handle. BriTANicK is an Emmy®-nominated sketch duo; Brian and Nick have written for shows like Saturday Night Live and It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and their sketch comedy videos have amassed over 100 million views online. They'll next be bringing their Fringe show Dummy to the Soho Theater, and you can follow along with their work and Patreon at britanick.com. They also directed Demi Adejuyigbe's Fringe show, Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do One (1) Backflip! Check out Demi's chat with Mo here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What starts as a catch-up between Mo and their best friend and creative collaborator Sudi Green turns into a sprawling conversation about what it means to “earn” a creative opportunity, the difference between a comedy show and a show that deploys humor, and why there’s no nuance on a poster. Missed Sudi and Mo's first conversation? Check it out here! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When artist and comedian Kate Cheka looked at her astrological chart, she wasn't sure she'd make it to this year's Edinburgh Fringe Festival. We're so glad that she did. This week, Kate and Mo chat about how Kate addresses matters of race, class, and gender in her work; why morning people shouldn't be allowed to run society; and whether Kate is, indeed, the messiah. Kate Cheka is a London-based artist and comedian whose accolades include being the reigning Funny Women Award winner, a Chortle Best Newcomer nominee, and a BBC New Comedy Awards regional finalist. She got her comedy start in Berlin, and she has since performed stand-up in over ten countries. At this year's Edinburgh Fringe Festival run, she's performing her debut hour A Messiah Comes. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast's all about process, so we want to give you a peek behind the curtain of Mo's Edinburgh Fringe Festival run of Worse Than You! Listen in as Mo reflects on their first week of shows, the rapport they've been building with audiences, and the friends they're singing karaoke with along the way. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Catherine Cohen's in the houuuuse this week! She and Mo chat about Cat's songwriting process, the joys of performing to a new crowd every night, and their first impressions of each other in New York's alt comedy scene. Catherine Cohen is a writer, singer, and comedian. You know her from her world tour and Netflix special The Twist... ? She's Gorgeous, her hit podcast Seek Treatment with Pat Regan, and her comedic poetry collection God I Feel Modern Tonight. She’s also an Edinburgh Comedy Award winner, and returning to the Fringe Festival this year to perform her show Come For Me. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Imagine a Victorian sprawled on a chaise lounge. Now give them tattoos or muscles, and place a boiled egg or other odd, unexpected object just out of reach. That's how Ella Evans describes her comedy. She joins Mo this week to discuss how she stretches the familiar, embraces the absurd, and tosses conventional writing wisdom out the window. Ella Evans is a writer and performer. Her work explores queer life and themes of rural identity and freedom. She is a Channel 4 new writer, and she'll be performing her show Femme Fatigue at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival this summer. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Some comedians commit to the bit. Demi Adejuyigbe reinvents it. This week, Demi joins Mo to discuss how he tends to even the smallest moments on stage, what it takes to stay one step ahead of audiences, and why he's doing a backflip in his Fringe show. Demi Adejuyigbe is a writer, comedian, filmmaker, and musician known for his podcasts Punch Up The Jam and Gilmore Guys, his popular September 21st video series, and as a writer/producer on NBC's The Good Place, Peacock's The Amber Ruffin Show, Netflix's NEON, and Apple TV's Strange Planet. He'll be performing his show Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do One (1) Backflip at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival this summer. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When we say prowl, you say panther! This week, Mo chats with their best friend and collaborator Sudi Green about holding each other accountable, life as a literal princess, and the ten-hour drive that set the course for their stage play Worse Than You. Sudi Green is an Emmy-nominated writer and comedian. She has written for Saturday Night Live, Shrill (Hulu), I Love That For You (Showtime) and numerous variety specials and awards shows. Her on-screen credits include I Think You Should Leave, The Other Two, and Girls. She is also the director of Worse Than You! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Paris may be hosting this summer’s Olympics, but every summer, the Edinburgh Fringe Festival hosts the Olympics of performing arts. And this year, a former All-American athlete will be taking to the Fringe stage: Mo Fry Pasic. Join Mo every week as they chat with festival headliners about how they got their acts together, and train for their own 25-show run. On your marks: the first episode drops Tuesday, July 16! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic, and co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices