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Put a dent in your reading backlog with brothers Jeremy and Jonah! Read along as we pick a book, break it down into readable chunks, and then share our impressions. Get your fortnightly fantasy and sci-fi fix!
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This week we discuss chapters 18-end of A Master of Djinn by P. Djèlí Clark, as well as the short story “A Dead Djinn in Cairo.”Time Codes00:48 Recap06:28 Jeremy’s opinion08:11 Fatma as a character13:28 The “plot twist”16:25 Half-Djinn reveal22:15 Zagros, the model Djinn26:13 Angels ain’t s***32:12 The Nine Lords37:50 Would we read a sequel?40:05 A Dead Djinn in Cairo45:19 Clock of Worlds46:39 Short story vs novel52:12 Fatma’s drip56:08 Writing takeaways59:15 Favorite characters1:02:05 ConclusionNext Read: The City of Brass by S. A. ChakrabortyOur next read will be The City of Brass by S.A. Chakraborty, chapters 1-18. See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!brosbeforeprose.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss chapters 1-17 of A Master of Djinn by P. Djèlí Clark.Time Codes01:22 Context04:47 Summary07:49 Initial thoughts20:19 Fatma31:36 The world36:56 Some good things39:18 Some thoughts on religion41:58 Predictions47:13 Wrapup49:20 FarewellNext Read: A Master of Djinn by P. Djèlí Clark, chapters 18-end, “A Dead Djinn in Cairo”Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation! brosbeforeprose.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss Parts 3 and 4 of Red Rising by Pierce Brown. We get into some pretty heavy stuff this episode, so content warning for rape, sexual assault, and general violence.Despite these subjects, we really enjoyed this book and its blunt look at political and social power.Time Codes00:41 Content warnings01:17 Part 3 Summary07:16 Standout moments10:14 Sevro praise13:56 Titus’ execution18:58 (Trigger warning)30:33 Cassius (end trigger warning)34:44 Part 4 summary46:47 Favorite moments53:44 Predictions57:10 Final thoughts58:24 Wrapping upNext Read: A Master of Djinn by P. Djèlí Clark, chapters 1-17Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation! brosbeforeprose.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss Parts 1 and 2 of Red Rising by Pierce Brown. The twists come early and often, and we are left reeling from the shifts in genre. This is a good one to go in fresh, so read it if you can! As always, spoilers abound. You have been warned.Time Codes02:40 1st person present09:41 The twist10:16 Part 1 summary15:42 Thwarted expectations18:35 Eo24:47 Worldbuilding28:19 The twist, for real41:55 The Institute48:58 Predictions51:42 ConclusionNext Read: Red Rising by Pierce Brown, Parts 3 and 4Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation! brosbeforeprose.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the stories “An Inhabitant of Carcosa" and "Haïta the Shepherd" by Ambrose Bierce and The Whisperer in Darkness by H.P. Lovecraft.The more I read, the less I know. I feel just like a Lovecraft protagonist seeking forbidden knowledge!Time Codes02:14 "Haïta the Shepherd"05:35 “An Inhabitant of Carcosa"07:23 Thoughts on Bierce15:15 Introduction to Lovecraft17:42 “The Whisperer in Darkness”24:28 Where is the King in Yellow?28:24 Jonah loses his mind33:22 Back to Lovecraft39: 03 Wrapping upNext Read: Red Rising by Pierce BrownNext week we will be reading Parts 1 and 2 of Red Rising, the sci-fi novel by Pierce Brown. See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the first five stories in The King in Yellow by Robert W. Chambers: “The Repairer of Reputations,” “The Mask,” “In the Court of the Dragon,” “The Yellow Sign,” and “The Demoiselle d’Ys.”Time Codes01:06 Introduction04:20 Readings for next time06:22 Chambers according to Robin D. Laws10:13 The King in Yellow Act 1, Scene 211:57 “The Repairer of Reputations”31:07 “The Mask”47: 31 “In the Court of the Dragon”1:02:30 “The Demoiselle d’Ys”1:10:06 Final thoughs1:16:45 WrapupNext Read: The Whisperer in Darkness by H.P. Lovecraft; "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" and "Haïta the Shepherd" by Ambrose BierceContinuing down the King in Yellow rabbit hole, we will be reading three stories that feed into the mythos: "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" and "Haïta the Shepherd" by Ambrose Bierce as found in his short story collection Can Such Things Be?, followed by The Whisperer in Darkness by H.P. Lovecraft.See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we wrap up our discussion of Neuromancer by William Gibson, covering chapters 13-24. Our feelings have changed, but our confusion has not.Time Codes01:04 How are we feeling?08:48 Summary14:38 What the hell was that last scene?16:36 What was the deal with TA?20:16 Favorite parts23:58 Themes34:37 What happened to Hideo?38:20 Seriously, what was the deal with TA?40:44 What's the message?45:53 WrapupNext Read: The King in Yellow by Robert W. ChambersNext time we will be reading the first five short stories from The King Yellow by Robert W. Chambers: “The Repairer of Reputations,” “The Mask,” “In the Court of the Dragon,” “The Yellow Sign,” and “The Demoiselle d’Ys.”See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the first three parts(chs 1-12) of Neuromancer by William Gibson. We try to figure out what is happening, fail spectacularly, and wonder if maybe the real plot starts in Part 3.Time Codes01:31 History of Cyberpunk04:15 Summary09:02 Pain points17:55 What is the plan?18:51 What was the Flatline?22:23 What’s Riviera’s deal?23:37 What’s the goal?25:34 Wintermute30:38 It gets better in Part 333:01 Do the characters suck?40:01 It should have started in Part 342:26 Hacking was the best part45:56 Coincidences49:53 Future Reading52:02 The Cliffhanger52:58 The World Tour54:45 Wrap-upNext Read: Neuromancer Chs 13-24Next time we will be finishing Neuromancer, reading chapters 13-24.See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we wrap up our discussion on The Way of Kings, covering the second half of Part 4, Part 5, the Epilogue, and the Ars Arcana! We are left with more questions than answers as we attempt to process the Sanderlanche, and mull over the journey we’ve been on.Next Read: Neuromancer Chs 1-12Our next read will be the granddaddy of cyberpunk fiction: Neuromancer by William Gibson. We will be reading the first half of the book, chapter 1 through 12 for next time.See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the first half of Part 4 of The Way of Kings, chapters 52-61. We finally get some answers to some burning questions, but are left with even more that probably won’t even get answered in the next four books!Next Episode April 11Next time we will be discussing the rest of the book, including the rest of Part 4, Part 5, the Epilogue, and the Ars Arcanum on April 11th!See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Content warning for fake suicide attempts meant to cover up your magical powers.This week we discuss the second half of Part 3 of The Way of Kings, chapters 41-51 and interludes I-7 through I-9. We also discuss the upcoming Cosmere RPG from Brotherwise Games and just how much we still don’t know about the setting.Next Episode April 4Next time, as we try to catch up to our release schedule, we will be discussing the first half of Part 4, chapters 52-61 on April 4th!See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the first half of Part 3 of The Way of Kings. We discuss whether things are happening too fast or too slow, the ethics of murdering background characters in back alleys, and if Kaladin is in fact the Chose One.Next Episode March 7We will be discussing the second half of Part 4, chapters 41-51, and the interludes I-7 - I-9 on March 7th!See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the rest of Part 2 of The Way of Kings. Due to some technical shenanigans, we will not be going in as fresh as usual, but we will have plenty to say about the vastness of the Cosmere.Next Episode February 21We will be discussing the first half of Part 3, chapters 29-40, at length on February 21st!See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we continue our dive into the world of Roshar through chapters 12-21 of The Way of Kings. Who is this moody man once called the Blackthorn, and why is he so serious?Next Episode February 7We will be discussing the second half of Part 2, chapters 22 - I-6, at length on February 7th! See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we finally dive into the Brando Sando-verse with the first novel in the epic Stormlight Archives: The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson. What wonders await us in Alethi, a world of rocks and unpronounceable names?Next Episode January 24Despite what we say in the episode (and why would you believe us in the first place?) we will only be reading the first half of Part 2, chapters 12-21, which we will discuss at length on January 24th!See you then!Subscribe to the newsletter to join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
We discuss the short stories "Liar!" "Little Lost Robot," "Escape!" "Evidence," and "The Evitable Conflict" from the short story collection I, Robot by Isaac Asimov.Join us on January 10th, when we will discuss Part 1 of The Way of Kings, first book in The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson.See you then!Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the short stories “First Law," “Runaround," "Reason," and "Catch That Rabbit," from I, Robot by Isaac Asimov.Next Episode December 27Join us on December 27th, when we will discuss the Isaac Asimov short stories"Liar!" "Little Lost Robot," "Escape!" "Evidence," and "The Evitable Conflict" from I, Robot.Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the short stories “Ulan Dhor” and “Guyal of Sfere” from The Dying Earth by Jack Vance.We get to see some sci-fi sneaking into our pulp fantasy, and finally get to follow some protagonists who are not complete psychopaths!Next Episode December 13Join us on December 13th, when we will discuss the Isaac Asimov short stories “Runaround," "Reason," and "Catch That Rabbit," from I, Robot; as well as the story “First Law,” featured in either The Rest of the Robots or The Complete Robot.Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss the short stories “Turjan of Miir,” “Mazirian the Magician,” “T’sais,” and “Liane the Wayfarer” from The Dying Earth by Jack Vance.Join us November 29th when discuss “Ulan Dhor” and “Guyal of Sfere,” the last two short stories in The Dying Earth.Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week we discuss chapters 46-57 of the novel Jade City, part of the Green Bone Saga by Fonda Lee.Join us November 15th when discuss the short stories “Turjan of Miir,” “Mazirian the Magician,” “T’sais,” and “Liane the Wayfarer,” the first four stories in The Dying Earth by Jack Vance.Subscribe to our Substack to be notified when new episodes drop and join the conversation!https://brosbeforeprose.substack.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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