What behaviors and attitudes ensure freelance dancers' career longevity? Does compassion help?

"I think there's a level of acceptance that needs to come with being where you are because of what you're doing and not thinking that you're doing all you can and the world just hasn't rewarded you for your efforts yet." Tali, explores her multifaceted career from commercial dance to choreography and beyond. Tali shares her journey through the dance scene, her transitions between different styles and companies, and how she manages her identity within the ever-evolving dance industry. 00:00 - Introduction 00:02 - Tali's start in dance and early influences 02:13 - Auditioning for 'Into the Hoods' and the shift to a full-time dance career 04:05 - Working with top artists and transition to teaching 05:03 - Development of 'Identity Ideas Industry' 07:05 - Balancing passion and career 10:41 - The impact of social media on dance careers 15:21 - Financial realities of commercial dance vs. teaching 22:39 - Well-being practices and the importance of support systems 36:30 - Balancing multiple roles in the dance industry 42:48 - Conclusion and reflections on personal growth and career paths Tali is a renowned figure in the dance community known for her dynamic approach to hip hop theatre and commercial dance. With a career spanning over two decades, she has performed with notable artists like Pink, Rihanna, and Kylie, and has significantly contributed to dance education and choreography. Contact Tali here: Website Instagram

"Compassion is what sets this whole thing apart." In this episode, Rachel delves into the intricacies of Paul Gilbert’s model of compassion and its application to freelancers, particularly freelance dancers. Rachel, a student at the University of Salford, explores the psychological and physiological impacts of compassion, discussing how it can foster career longevity and well-being among freelance dancers. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to compassion and its importance 05:00 - Understanding the brain and social mentalities 12:30 - The threat system and its effects on freelancers 20:45 - The role of society in shaping our responses 25:00 - The soothe system and the power of self-compassion 35:00 - Implications for freelance dance artists 45:00 - The physiological impact of compassion 55:00 - Conclusion and preview of next episodes Balanced Minds. (n.d.). Three system model. Balanced Minds. Retrieved July 24, 2024, from https://balancedminds.com/three-system-model/ Gilbert, P. (2010). The compassionate mind: A new approach to life's challenges. London: Constable.

"Artist-led networks put the artist in charge, creating their own opportunities." In this episode, we delve deep with Karen Wood, a seasoned dancer and researcher, into the intricacies of the dance community and freelance careers. Karen discusses her journey through dance, the significance of artist-led networks, and the challenges and opportunities within the dance sector. Timestamps: 00:32 - Karen’s background in dance and academia 01:31 - Access to dance and motivations for research 02:01 - Policy engagement and social change research 03:23 - Formation of the Manchester Dance Consortium 05:09 - Integration of research and practical application in dance 06:02 - The impact of artist-led networks on professional development 09:17 - Challenges of freelancing and union roles 13:31 - Financial instability and support systems for freelancers 21:10 - The role of creative identities and artist-led initiatives 27:16 - Essential skills for freelancers and leaders in the dance sector 34:11 - Policy implications and future directions in dance freelancing 41:50 - The potential of artist-led networks in shaping the dance industry Guest Information:Karen Wood - Dancer, Researcher, and Advocate for the dance community. Karen has extensive experience in both performing and academic aspects of dance, focusing on policy engagement and community-led initiatives. Resources https://www.mcrdansortium.com/ https://birminghamdancenetwork.co.uk/ https://freelancedance.uk/about/

"The compassionate approach isn't to say, 'This is too hard, let's just avoid it.' It's to turn towards that difficulty and find a way through." "Taking a more compassionate approach is really helpful for managing some of the distress that will come up somewhat inevitably through some of those things that people like freelance dancers will face." In this episode, Courtney Walton, a researcher and psychologist, discusses the importance of self-compassion in performance-oriented environments such as elite sports and performing arts. He explains how self-compassion can help performers manage distress, overcome perfectionism, and foster a supportive community. Courtney also shares practical strategies for developing self-compassion and highlights the need for compassionate approaches within training environments. Timestamps: 00:02 – Introduction to Courtney Walton and her background 00:32 – Courtney’s work in elite sports and performing arts 01:28 – Experience at a dance school and its impact on her research 02:22 – Discussion on self-compassion in performers 03:16 – Defining a compassionate approach 05:12 – How understanding the brain helps in managing distress 06:38 – Compassion-focused therapy in practice 08:06 – The role of self-compassion in handling criticism and comparison 10:24 – Addressing resistance to self-compassion 11:20 – Misconceptions about self-compassion 14:17 – The analogy of compassionate vs. critical teaching 17:22 – Developing self-compassion as a skill 20:02 – Practical exercises for nurturing self-compassion 23:44 – The impact of compassionate meditations on performers 27:11 – The role of compassion in combating perfectionism 32:48 – Community support and self-compassion for freelancers 38:08 – Future research directions in compassion and performance Check Courtney's website here

"Learning to grieve a project is essential for creative rest." "Your gift will make room for you." In this episode, we chat with Dannielle Rhimes LeCointe, a prominent figure in the hip-hop theater and creative arts scene. In this episode, Dannielle discusses her transition from a performer in hip-hop theatre to a leadership role in the creative arts. She emphasises the importance of recognising and leveraging one’s strengths, dealing with creative fatigue through unique rest methods, and seeking support and mentorship. Dannielle also shares her journey into coaching, highlighting the value of reinvention and self-awareness for long-term career success. Timestamps: 00:02 - Introduction and Danielle's background 01:28 - Transition from performer to leadership roles 03:19 - The importance of leadership in Danielle's journey 05:16 - Milestones and recognizing leadership qualities 09:28 - Dealing with creative fatigue and finding rest 13:33 - The importance of unique rest methods for creatives 17:54 - Prioritizing and grounding oneself amidst various projects 19:22 - Support systems for freelancers and the importance of mentorship 25:06 - Danielle's transition into coaching and mentorship 32:44 - Key factors for career longevity and reinvention 36:39 - Understanding identity outside of creative work Dannielle's creative account Dannielle's Biz account

"Creating a portfolio career that I'm proud of rather than one that just impresses others." "The pressure to perform was so high" In this episode, we speak with Hannah Miles, a dancer who has shifted her focus from technical perfection to finding joy and authenticity in her work. Hannah shares her journey in the dance sector, her experiences with freelancing, the importance of community, and her recent transition to working in the NHS while continuing her passion for dance. This conversation is filled with insights on maintaining a sense of self and well-being in the demanding world of dance. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction and welcome 00:29 – Hannah’s role in the dance sector 02:23 – Finding a sense of self in dance 03:21 – The impact of saying yes to everything 06:24 – Realizing how to be a creative 07:21 – Transitioning to the NHS 08:50 – Balancing freelance work and NHS 11:08 – Financial stability and mental health 12:06 – The impact of an ankle injury 13:04 – The challenges of freelancing with an injury 17:15 – The importance of self-awareness 19:10 – The benefits of a new job 21:24 – Shifting approach to health and well-being 25:14 – Managing self-expectations 29:40 – The role of support and community 37:16 – Learning from tour life 41:06 – Accepting support from others 47:34 – Final reflections Resources: https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/ https://www.onedanceuk.org/ Hannah's Instagram

"If you don't allow yourself to name what you want, it's very unlikely that it's gonna happen." In this episode, we chat with Nicole, a principal dancer with Matthew Bourne's New Adventures and founder of The Performer Circle. Nicole shares her inspiring journey from starting ballet at four to becoming a professional dancer, and how a passion for fitness helped her navigate personal challenges and transitions in her career. We dive into her experiences with coaching, the importance of mental well-being, and how she maintains balance in her multifaceted life. 00:00 – Introduction and welcome 00:24 – Nicole’s early life and start in dance 01:22 – Journey to professional dance and joining Matthew Bourne's New Adventures 01:51 – Transition to coaching and personal training 02:50 – Working in a gym and learning from colleagues 03:44 – Founding The Performer Circle 04:44 – Balancing coaching with performing 05:40 – Importance of fitness in dance 06:38 – Identity and fulfillment in dance 08:33 – Challenges and mental health 10:23 – Overcoming depression and personal growth 12:12 – Defining milestones and career decisions 14:35 – Shift in mindset and career breakthrough 16:26 – Finding joy and balance in a demanding career 18:18 – Non-negotiables for well-being 20:37 – Coaching techniques and common challenges 24:18 – Vision and goal setting for dancers 27:13 – Managing multiple roles and priorities 30:17 – Accepting imperfections and prioritizing effectively 34:57 – Key factors contributing to a successful and fulfilling career 37:48 – Final thoughts and message for listeners Nicole's instagram

"I think everybody needs to see themselves as equally capable of creating something good, as all the other names out there." "In the hip hop community, the most important thing is how individual you are and how you develop your own voice." In this episode, Vasilliki discusses her journey from hip hop and ballroom Latin to contemporary dance, emphasizing the importance of individuality and personal movement language. She reflects on the influence of the hip hop community, the challenges of freelancing, and the role of journaling and counseling in her artistic development. Through her unique path, Vasilliki inspires listeners to embrace their strengths and develop their own artistic voice. Vasilliki's Instagram

"Freelancers with an understanding of compassion report improvements such as reconnecting with their creative selves and finding stability and fulfillment in diverse activities." In this episode of the Mid-Project Ideas Podcast, Rachel, an MA Dance Performance and Professional Practices student at the University of Salford, delves into the complex world of freelance dance. Exploring the challenges freelance dancers face, Rachel examines how compassion and adaptive behaviors can contribute to career longevity. The episode features insights from coaches, researchers, and dancers, shedding light on the realities of freelancing, perfectionism, and self-identity within the dance industry. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to the Podcast 02:15 - Overview of Freelance Dance Industry Challenges 06:30 - Insights from "The Compassionate Mind" 10:45 - Interview Highlights: Nicole, Principal Dancer and PT Coach 14:20 - Common Struggles: Financial Instability and Self-Identity 20:00 - Personal Reflections on Perfectionism 25:40 - The Unspoken Hierarchy in Dance 30:15 - Redefining Success for Freelance Dancers 35:50 - The Impact of Neoliberalism on Dance and Art 40:30 - Perfectionism in Dance: Insights from Andrew Hill 45:00 - Creating a Supportive Environment 50:20 - Future Episode Teaser: Interview with Courtney C. Walton Resources & Links: The Compassionate Mind by Paul Gilbert Defining Terms Podcast Episode Reference List: Aujla, I. J., & Farrer, R. (2015). The role of psychological factors in the career of the independent dancer. Frontiers in Psychology, 6, 1688. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.01688 Aujla, I. J., Farrer, R., Jenkins, L., King, N., & Win, S. (2021). The role and impact of freelancers in the UK dance sector. Medical Problems of Performing Artists, 36(4), 233-237. https://doi.org/10.21091/mppa.2021.4030 Bennett, D. (2019). Careers in Dance: Beyond Performance to the Real World of Work. Routledge. Gilbert, P. (2014). The Compassionate Mind. New Harbinger Publications. Hill, A. P., Mallinson-Howard, S. H., Madigan, D. J., & Jowett, G. E. (2016). Perfectionism in sport, dance, and exercise: An extended review and reanalysis. Psychology of Sport and Exercise, 27, 101-111. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psychsport.2016.08.013 Mosewich, A. D., Crocker, P. R. E., Kowalski, K. C., & DeLongis, A. (2013). Applying self-compassion in sport: An intervention with women athletes. Journal of Sport and Exercise Psychology, 35(5), 514-524. https://doi.org/10.1123/jsep.35.5.514 Sommers-Spijkerman, M., Trompetter, H. R., Schreurs, K. M. G., & Bohlmeijer, E. T. (2017). Compassionate attributes and skills: An exploration in the context of enhancing well-being. Mindfulness, 8, 344-353. https://doi.org/10.1007/s12671-016-0602-6 Stigler, B. (2018). Lose Yourself to Dance. Dance Research, 36(2), 203-220. Walton, C. C., Osborne, M. S., Gilbert, P., & Kirby, J. N. (2022). Nurturing self-compassionate performers. Psychology of Music, 50(5), 743-760. https://doi.org/10.1177/0305735619868287 Wood, K. (2017). UK dance graduates and preparation for freelance working: The contribution of artist-led collectives and dance agencies to the dance ecology. Research in Dance Education, 18(3), 282-297. https://doi.org/10.1080/14647893.2017.1362431 Wood, K. (2017). Freelance dance artists’ working ecology. Dance Research, 35(2), 135-150. https://doi.org/10.3366/drs.2017.0196

"It's always been about solving the problem and thinking, 'How can I resolve this?' rather than getting bogged down by it." "Being a good person and having good communication skills can make or break your career." In this episode, Faye Stoeser shares her experiences navigating the freelance dance industry, highlighting her journey through various dance styles and her transition into choreography. She discusses the importance of versatility, maintaining physical and mental well-being, and the value of community and relationships. Faye offers practical advice for sustaining a freelance dance career and handling the inevitable challenges and rejections with resilience and a positive mindset. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and initial greetings 00:29 - Faye's self-description and career overview 02:55 - Key milestones and highlights in Faye's career 08:08 - How milestones influenced her career sustainability 16:45 - Routines and practices for maintaining well-being 19:32 - Balancing multiple jobs and saying no 22:47 - Challenges faced and redirection of energy 26:27 - Importance of community and relationships 32:06 - Handling setbacks and rejections 35:47 - Key factors contributing to long-term success 40:35 - Closing thoughts and advice for freelancers Resources Faye's instagram

"Dance was my way of expressing myself and feeling safe." "I value my wellbeing and inner peace more than pursuing a dream that may never come to fruition." "The dance industry needs more genuine mentorship and community." Christina Demetriou, a dancer with a rich multicultural background, shares her journey from South Africa to Cyprus and eventually to London. She discusses the challenges of navigating the freelance dance industry, the impact of social media on her career, and the importance of self-awareness and personal wellbeing. Christina emphasises the need for genuine mentorship and community support within the dance world to help dancers thrive amidst financial and competitive barriers. h Africa to Cyprus and the start of her dance journey 02:00: Professional training and experiences in New York 05:19: Transition to the UK and balancing dance with other life responsibilities 06:40: The competitive nature of the dance industry and social media's impact 11:18: The role of dance in Christina's identity and personal growth 16:29: Current thoughts on pursuing a professional dance career 20:27: Barriers in the freelance dance industry 26:01: Practices for personal wellbeing and maintaining joy in dance 31:58: The importance of slowing down and self-awareness 37:16: The significance of friendships within and outside the dance industry 43:57: Support and changes needed in the industry to help dancers thrive 49:11: Final thoughts on financial barriers and the need for mentorship Resources & Links: Broadway Dance Center Westminster University Bucks New University Christina's Instagram

"Self-care isn’t just face masks and hot baths; it’s about removing stresses that aren’t helping you." "Understanding your values is crucial for maintaining well-being and performance." In this episode, we have the pleasure of talking with Manisha, a trainee sport and exercise psychologist pursuing her professional doctorate at John Moores University. Manisha shares her inspiring journey into the field of sport psychology, the unique challenges faced by dancers and athletes, and the importance of mental health and well-being in performance. We delve into her work with dancers, the impact of COVID-19 on recent graduates, and her ongoing research and projects. 00:02 - Introduction and greetings. 00:29 - Manisha's background and current work. 01:26 - Journey into sport and exercise psychology. 03:20 - Catalyst for focusing on dancer's mental health. 04:47 - The Dancer's Mindset initiative. 06:43 - Importance of psychology for performers. 10:28 - Common challenges in performance psychology. 14:12 - Developing self-awareness and strategies for improvement. 19:23 - Techniques like mindfulness and visualization. 20:52 - Example of using values in psychological work. 26:14 - Team values and identity in football. 29:20 - Self-care and well-being practices. 35:39 - Resistance in the dance industry to psychological practices. 41:31 - Traits that help dancers resist adverse circumstances. 45:51 - Manisha’s current research projects. 51:27 - Factors influencing career longevity for dancers. 56:13 - Building resilience and maintaining passion. Resources & Links: John Moores University The Dancer's Mindset on Instagram Dance for Parkinson's Mindfulness and Performance

"Befriending rejection and closing the gap between setbacks and getting back on track is crucial." "Meditation and energy therapy help me let go of fears and focus on what I truly desire." "Balance depends on what's important to you in that moment and how you manage your time." In this episode, Rachel interviews Frankie, a dancer, Pilates instructor, and mindset coach. They discuss Frankie's journey from a career-halting injury to becoming a multifaceted professional, the importance of mindset, and the role of energy therapy in overcoming fears. Frankie also shares insights on balancing a freelance dance career with personal well-being and the significance of community support. Timestamps: 00:03 - Introduction and setting the scene 00:27 - Frankie's career journey and introduction 01:24 - Impact of injury and discovering new passions 02:25 - Discussing milestones and significant experiences 03:25 - Most rewarding aspects of Frankie's career 05:28 - The concept of identity in the arts 07:24 - Techniques for supporting physical and mental health 09:51 - Integrating practices into a dance career 11:11 - Challenges and overcoming rejection 16:28 - Importance of relationships in the dance community 19:42 - Overcoming resistance to support and growth 25:37 - The idea of work-life balance for freelance dancers 27:31 - Scheduling and prioritizing as a freelancer 36:43 - Compassion and motivation in a dance career 38:11 - Growing professionally and practically as a dancer 42:54 - Book recommendations for personal and professional growth Resources & Links: Books Mentioned: The One Thing by Gary Keller and Jay Papasan The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron

"If I'm only focused on dance, then if my career isn't going the way I want it to go, then I feel like a failure as a person. Whereas if I have taken the time to create relationships and nurture the relationships that I want, or I've taken the time to develop hobbies and communities outside of dance, then even if my career isn't going according to plan...I don't necessarily feel like a failure as a human being." In this episode, we dive into an insightful conversation with Crystal Nichols, a health and performance coach who specialises in helping performers thrive both on and off stage. Crystal shares her journey from being a professional dancer to becoming a coach, her experience with burnout, and how she helps performers build healthy, sustainable careers. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and background of Crystal Nichols 00:27 - Crystal's work with performers 00:56 - Journey from Barbados to professional dancing 01:25 - Experience with Princess Cruises and The Lion King 03:18 - Struggling with burnout and discovering health and wellness 04:38 - Transition to health and performance coaching 05:06 - Developing a coaching program during the pandemic 06:26 - Collaborations with organizations like Applause for Thought 07:50 - Typical clients and their challenges 09:46 - Crystal's approach to wellbeing and performance 13:25 - The importance of being a healthy human for peak performance 16:11 - Transformation through focusing on basic needs 19:57 - Career satisfaction and success 21:47 - Importance of knowing your strengths 24:37 - The balance between dedication and having a life outside of performing 29:47 - Strategies for achieving balance and wellbeing 33:40 - Emotional intelligence and its role in wellbeing 41:20 - Impact of emotional awareness on coaching 44:14 - Final thoughts and creating a stress toolkit Resources & Links: Applause for Thought Susan David's Emotional Agility Stress Container Concept https://www.instagram.com/crystal_nicholls/

"Thinking positively can improve your mood, which then encourages productive actions, creating a positive cycle." "Our brains evolved to ensure our survival in a very different environment from the one we live in today." Rachel, an MA Dance Performance and Professional Practices student at the University of Salford, defines key terms crucial to her research on career longevity among freelance dancers. She explains that behaviours are the specific actions and routines of dancers, while attitudes are their mental approaches. Rachel discusses the Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) model and Paul Gilbert’s Three System Model to highlight the interconnectedness of thoughts, emotions, and behaviours. She explores wellbeing through Ryff's Model, the Six Dimensions of Wellness, and Engel's Biopsychosocial Model, emphasising physical, mental, emotional, social, environmental, and existential health. Career longevity is defined as sustaining a professional dance career over time, balancing wellbeing and adaptability. Rachel introduces her sub-question on whether compassion can facilitate adaptive behaviours and attitudes, setting the stage for future episodes. Resources & Links: CBT Model of Emotions Three System Model by Paul Gilbert Ryff's Model of Psychological Wellbeing Six Dimensions of Wellness Precision Nutrition’s Deep Health Concept References: Aujla, I., & Farrer, R. (n.d.). Independent dance sector in the UK: Challenges and opportunities. University of Bedfordshire. Aujla, I., & Farrer, R. (2016). Independent dancers: Roles, motivations and success. Aujla, I., Farrer, R., Jenkins, L., King, N., & Win, S. (2019). The role and impact of freelancers in the UK dance sector. University of Bedfordshire. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Los Angeles. (n.d.). CBT model of emotions. https://cogbtherapy.com/cbt-model-of-emotions Doom, J. R. (n.d.). Mapping future directions to test biopsychosocial pathways to health and well-being. Department of Psychology, University of Denver. Farmer, C., & Kindred, H. (Eds.). (n.d.). The ‘female’ dancer: A soma-scientific approach. Middlesex University. Clarke, G., & Millward, F. (n.d.). Supporting, stimulating, sustaining independent dance. Independent Dance, Siobhan Davies Studios. Harrison, C., Ruddock, S., Mayes, S., Cook, J., O’Halloran, P., Ferrar, K., & Ruddock-Hudson, M. (2020). Self-reported wellness in training and performance: A comparison of professional ballet dancers and professional athletes. Medical Problems of Performing Artists. Hettler, B. (1976). Six dimensions of wellness. © National Wellness Institute, Inc. Hoffman, M. D. (2018). Ultra-obligatory running among ultramarathon runners. Research in Sports Medicine, 26(2), 211–221. Karunamuni, N., Imayama, I., & Goonetilleke, D. (2021). Pathways to well-being: Untangling the causal relationships among biopsychosocial variables. Social Science & Medicine. Mazerolle, S., Eason, C. M., Lazar, R. A., & Mensch, J. M. (2016). Exploring career longevity in athletic training: Factors influencing persistence in the NCAA Division I setting. International Journal of Athletic Therapy & Training, 21(6), 48-57. https://doi.org/10.1123/ijatt.2016-0026 Precision Nutrition Team. (n.d.). Precision Nutrition level one course: Deep health and the biopsychosocial model. Salvo, S. (2019, May 29). Self-care and massage: Career longevity and the wellness model. Balanced Minds. (n.d.). Three system model. https://balancedminds.com/three-system-model/