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Dancing With Depression
Author: Adam Turner
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Welcome to Dancing With Depression. This is a podcast dedicated to opening up the conversation about mental health, focusing specifically on depression. I was diagnosed with depression in 2015.
I've realized how crucial it is to talk openly about this topic, breaking its stigma. Like taboo subjects such as income, politics, or religion, depression should not be off-limits.
Through sharing my journey, from my upbringing to my personal experiences and moments of vulnerability, I aim to convey that it's okay to feel this way. We are not alone, and most importantly, we did nothing wrong. Depression doesn't confine itself to a specific upbringing, socio-economic status, or background. I hope my stories encourage others to share their own experiences, highlighting how depression affects not just individuals but their loved ones as well.
Every day with depression is different for me. Some days, it's a mild waltz; other days, it can start with a tap dance, shift into a Salsa, and by noon, I’m a Ballet dancer – leaping, bending, lifting (the weight of my depression), and balancing myself on the tips of my toes all while spinning rapidly.
I invite you to join me as we navigate the complex dance with depression together, all while striving to Take The Lead!
I've realized how crucial it is to talk openly about this topic, breaking its stigma. Like taboo subjects such as income, politics, or religion, depression should not be off-limits.
Through sharing my journey, from my upbringing to my personal experiences and moments of vulnerability, I aim to convey that it's okay to feel this way. We are not alone, and most importantly, we did nothing wrong. Depression doesn't confine itself to a specific upbringing, socio-economic status, or background. I hope my stories encourage others to share their own experiences, highlighting how depression affects not just individuals but their loved ones as well.
Every day with depression is different for me. Some days, it's a mild waltz; other days, it can start with a tap dance, shift into a Salsa, and by noon, I’m a Ballet dancer – leaping, bending, lifting (the weight of my depression), and balancing myself on the tips of my toes all while spinning rapidly.
I invite you to join me as we navigate the complex dance with depression together, all while striving to Take The Lead!
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In this heartfelt episode, Adam chats with Allison Paradise about her journey from achievement-driven success and societal expectations to embracing her true self.Together, they explore the roles of labels, internal struggles, childhood innocence, and the courage required to break free and live authentically.In this episode:Allison's childhood experiences with labels and societal expectationsThe internal conflict between achievement and true passionHow childhood innocence and light can be dimmed by adult conditioningThe significance of questioning societal roles and internalized expectationsThe process of identifying and releasing limiting labels (smart, good daughter, etc.)Challenges faced during early college years and health crisesThe journey from performing for others to living for oneselfPractical tools: labeling exercises and strategies to unlearn imposed identitiesThe importance of creating safe spaces for children and adults to just bePersonal best practices for managing heavy emotions: crying, sleeping, writing, and presenceResources & Links:My Green Lab — Nonprofit promoting sustainability in labsTED Talk (2019) – Our little world — Allison's impactful speech on unseen emotional weightsThe Mistake – by Allison Paradise (Find on Amazon.com)This episode encourages you to reflect on the labels you carry and empowers you to take steps toward living your authentic life, honoring your inner light, and creating safe spaces for growth—inside and out.Episode DisclaimerThis episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this episode of the Dancing with Depression podcast, Adam Turner speaks with Kate Weaver, the executive director of NAMI Charlotte. They discuss the mission of NAMI Charlotte, which focuses on connection, support, education, and advocacy for individuals affected by mental illness. Kate shares insights about the Resource Center, the NAMI Navigator program, and the various support groups and educational resources available to the community. The conversation emphasizes the importance of connection and support in mental health journeys, aiming to reduce stigma and encourage individuals to seek help.Takeaways:NAMI Charlotte's mission is centered around connection.The Resource Center serves as a vital hub for community support.The NAMI Navigator program helps individuals find mental health resources.Support groups provide a safe space for sharing experiences.Education is key to understanding mental health issues.Connection is crucial for those on a mental health journey.NAMI Charlotte offers both in-person and virtual support groups.The organization aims to reduce stigma around mental health.Community partnerships enhance the resources available to individuals.Spreading awareness is essential for improving mental health outcomes.Episode DisclaimerThis episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this episode of the Dancing with Depression podcast, Adam Turner explores the profound impact of language on our emotional experiences and mental health. He discusses how certain words can invite scrutiny and shift focus from feelings to accuracy, particularly in relationships and self-talk. Adam emphasizes the importance of understanding our emotions and the journey of healing, highlighting that the language we use shapes our behavior and outcomes. He encourages listeners to engage with their feelings honestly and to seek support in their mental health journeys.TakeawaysThe words we choose can lock us in place or leave space for growth.Absolutes in language can turn moments into identities.When we say 'never' or 'always', we often express overwhelming emotions.Understanding the context of our words is crucial in relationships.Healing involves recognizing that feelings are valid but not permanent. Language shapes behavior, which in turn shapes outcomes.It's important to ask what someone means rather than correcting their words.The journey of healing is reflected in the evolution of our language.Support and understanding are key in navigating mental health challenges.Community engagement can amplify the message of hope and understanding.Episode DisclaimerThis episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this conversation, Adam Turner and Mark Franklin explore Mark's military background, the challenges of transitioning to civilian life, and the importance of mental health awareness. They discuss the significance of camaraderie in the military, leadership lessons learned, and the impact of personal experiences on growth. Mark shares insights on coping with loss and the necessity of community support, emphasizing that seeking help is a sign of strength. The discussion highlights the journey of personal development and the importance of connection in overcoming life's challenges. TakeawaysMark's military background shaped his perspective on life.The importance of camaraderie in the military is profound.Transitioning to civilian life can be challenging for veterans.Mental health awareness has improved but still needs attention.Connection with others is crucial for mental well-being.Experiencing loss can lead to deeper reflections on life.Leadership lessons from the military can apply to civilian roles.Understanding different perspectives is key to personal growth.Support systems play a vital role in overcoming challenges.It's important to take the first step towards seeking help. Episode DisclaimerThis episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this conversation, Adam Turner and Mark Franklin explore Mark's military background, the challenges of transitioning to civilian life, and the importance of mental health awareness. They discuss the significance of camaraderie in the military, leadership lessons learned, and the impact of personal experiences on growth. Mark shares insights on coping with loss and the necessity of community support, emphasizing that seeking help is a sign of strength. The discussion highlights the journey of personal development and the importance of connection in overcoming life's challenges. TakeawaysMark's military background shaped his perspective on life.The importance of camaraderie in the military is profound.Transitioning to civilian life can be challenging for veterans.Mental health awareness has improved but still needs attention.Connection with others is crucial for mental well-being.Experiencing loss can lead to deeper reflections on life.Leadership lessons from the military can apply to civilian roles.Understanding different perspectives is key to personal growth.Support systems play a vital role in overcoming challenges.It's important to take the first step towards seeking help. Episode DisclaimerThis episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this conversation, Adam Turner and Mark Franklin explore Mark's military background, the challenges of transitioning to civilian life, and the importance of mental health awareness. They discuss the significance of camaraderie in the military, leadership lessons learned, and the impact of personal experiences on growth. Mark shares insights on coping with loss and the necessity of community support, emphasizing that seeking help is a sign of strength. The discussion highlights the journey of personal development and the importance of connection in overcoming life's challenges. TakeawaysMark's military background shaped his perspective on life.The importance of camaraderie in the military is profound.Transitioning to civilian life can be challenging for veterans.Mental health awareness has improved but still needs attention.Connection with others is crucial for mental well-being.Experiencing loss can lead to deeper reflections on life.Leadership lessons from the military can apply to civilian roles.Understanding different perspectives is key to personal growth.Support systems play a vital role in overcoming challenges.It's important to take the first step towards seeking help. Episode Disclaimer This episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this episode of the Dancing with Depression podcast, Dr. Lauren Goldstein sharesher insights into the importance of psychological evaluations and assessments. Withover 20 years of experience, she explains how these evaluations can provide clarity andunderstanding for individuals struggling with mental health issues. The conversationcovers the evaluation process, common misconceptions, and the significance of aneurodiversity affirming approach. Dr. Goldstein emphasizes that evaluations are notabout judgment but about uncovering one's unique strengths and challenges, ultimatelyguiding individuals towards effective support and treatment.TakeawaysEvaluations provide clarity, not judgment.Understanding oneself is key to effective support.Testing is about learning how your unique brain works.The evaluation process is a journey of self-discovery.Common reasons for seeking evaluations include feeling stuck or overwhelmed.Neurodiversity affirming approaches focus on strengths, not deficits.There is no wrong time to pursue an evaluation.Misconceptions about testing can create unnecessary fear.Therapy helps cope; assessments help understand.Developing a personal toolkit is essential for managing mental health.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Dr. Lauren Goldstein04:28 Common Reasons for Seeking Evaluations08:24 Breaking Points: When Adults Seek Testing11:45 Moving from Uncertainty to Clarity13:44 Creating a Roadmap for Support16:01 Misconceptions About Testing and Evaluations18:58 When is the Right Time for an Evaluation?20:51 Neurodiversity Affirming Approach Explained25:23 Understanding How You Think and Learn26:10 Considering the Value of Evaluations26:33 Preparing for the Evaluation Process27:39 Assessment vs. Therapy: Understanding the Difference28:21 Knowing When to Pause and Reflect29:00 Sorting Out Underlying Issues30:57 Using Assessment Results for Tailored Treatment31:24 Real-Life Impact of Accurate Diagnoses34:12 Encouragement for Those Feeling Stuck34:59 Developing Your Own Coping Toolkit37:31 Personal Reflections on ADHD Diagnosis42:32 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsEpisode DisclaimerThis episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this episode of the Dancing with Depression podcast, Adam Turner explores thethemes of timing and perspective in the context of mental health and personal growth.He shares personal anecdotes about the challenges of inviting others to share theirstories and the importance of understanding readiness in conversations. The discussionemphasizes that growth can create distance, and that healing is a deeply personaljourney that requires patience and compassion.TakeawaysGrowth creates distance, and perspective shapes meaning.Help is most effective when timing and readiness align.People may not be ready to share their stories, even if they care.Timing matters in all areas of life, not just mental health.Resistance often reflects a difference in processing time.Sharing stories can honor lives rather than reopen wounds.Pain, comfort, and healing are deeply personal experiences.We can't decide how others will experience something, but we can offer them thechance.Healing happens when experience, time, and perspective meet.Supporting others means walking beside them, not rushing ahead.Chapters00:00 The Importance of Timing and Perspective03:00 Understanding Readiness in Conversations07:20 The Role of Perspective in Healing10:30 Supporting Others on Their JourneyEpisode DisclaimerThis episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
Welcome to the Dancing with Depression podcast. I'm your host, Adam Turner. If you've never been to therapy, you might not know what to expect. My only understanding of it came from watching The Sopranos. Dramatic, intense, sometimes a little scary. The truth is, it’s very different. So, it was only fitting to invite my first therapist, Giselle Schochet.Okay, before we go down memory lane, I want to set the stage for today's conversation. If you've never been to therapy before, or if you've considered going, but weren't sure what to expect, this episode is designed for you. We're going to break down what the first session really looks like. So, you can feel a little more at ease with them.a process that just typically is kind of uncomfortable at first. What's cool is you're going to hear it from both sides, my perspective as a client, which I still want to refer to as a patient, but anyways, who has had that experience. And then we're also going to get the perspective of an expert, Giselle, who guides people through this.pretty much every day. So speaking of experts, I'm joined by someone who played an important role in my own personal mental health journey. She holds a Master of Science and is a licensed marriage and family therapist, Giselle Schockett. Thanks for having me, Adam.It’s great to see you. We want to talk a little bit about what that first appointment or scheduling is like but before we dive in, can you share just a little bit about your professional backgroundWhat ultimately led you into this line of work? Okay, so I've been in private practice for 28 years and I started out as an intern going through my master's program at a pastoral counseling center. That's where I got my start and from there, I think I worked there for about five years.While I was working towards my licensure because you must get a certain number of client face-to-face hours to sit for the board to get your license and then Unfortunately that pastoral counseling center went out of business. So, one of my colleagues and I went and opened our own practice. And we were very fortunate, of course, because we were able to take a lot of those clients with us. So that was nice. I also have worked in emergency departments.three of them for, I no longer work in emergency departments, but I worked in three of them for about 20 years at the same time as I was doing private practice. And that is an entirely different situation and a wonderful way to get experience with every mental health issue you can imagine. I really, really enjoy that. And, now I'm just in private practice and kind of easing into retirement, I want to say to anyone who's listening that this is my first time doing a podcast and I am scared to death so I want anyone to understand that Everything new is scary And you just have to take that leap of faith and take the first step and make that phone call and if someone doesn't call you back that unfortunately doesn't mean anything is wrong with you it means that they're not giving good customer service that's all that means so make the next phone call go down your list and find someone that either answersSo as far as how I got to doing therapy, think you'll probably find that no one gets into this business without having their own story. And we all have our own story. I grew up in a very dysfunctional family. I was the youngest of five and never felt like I had a voice around the house. There was a lot of, didn't suffer physical abuse, but my brothers did. And I just always felt like I needed to understand why, how someone could be so awful to another person. And so that was a big part of it. And then when I was probably around eighth grade, I had a traumatic experience where I was chased by some men in a...box truck and that was really scary for me and so my mother took me to therapy and while I don't remember really anything about it I just know it didn't work for me. It was I didn't feel comfortable; the person didn't make me comfortable and so that was something else that I wanted to make sure the people I saw were very comfortable like it was almost you know in your living room talking over a cup of coffee. And that's kind of how I've done my practice. And that translated. Because, you know, I felt that I didn't know the backstory. didn't know how you got into, you know, being a therapist, but I did feel like at times we were just sitting there chopping it up. and so that was nice. And that really is kind of dynamic. As you mentioned you were young. Not that you went to therapy quote unquote against your will, but you didn't really know what was going on. I went willingly, even though I kind of was misled, but we'll talk about that later on. So that really being the part is you know, what should someone expect or can they expect going into their first therapy session from your knowledge? What would you like them to think?Well, I think currently technology has changed from when I first started. Now, generally, think people send a packet over the internet and you fill out your history and why you're coming and that kind of thing. So, we have a head start on how to structure the first visit.That can make it a little more clinical than I prefer it to be because it's almost like we just jump in instead of just being kind of an organic learning about you and what's going on in your life. But so, we gen, I don't know if that's across the United States that therapists do that, but that's how I operate my business. You will get a list of questions to answer.Okay.And then when you come in, I just talk about, first I try and make you at ease, you know, of course, because just like I am today, very nervous. You are going to be nervous if it's your first time going into a therapist's office. So, it's a time for you to interview the therapist as well as a therapist to understand you a little bit to make sure that they have the specialty to meet your needs. So, I think one of the things I want people to understand is that it's not somewhere where you're going to be judged at all. It's somewhere where you can have a conversation and you have 50 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour where someone is just paying attention to you without distractions.And it's probably the first time in our lives that we're doing that because there's always distractions. So that's one of the things I really enjoy about therapy is it's just one-on-one or in my case, I'm a marriage and family therapist. So, it could be a family, but we're just there together really connecting.And you talked about, you know, wanting to kind of set the stage of being comfortable and such. Are there any techniques or things that you do specifically as you're sitting across from someone or even, you know, if you're doing telehealth and maybe you're picking up that they're nervous, you're picking up different sizes. Is there anything specific that you do to help them?Well, people tell me that I do make them feel at ease. And I think that's because I know what it was like for me to go into this office with someone who was going to read my mind or something, I think I thought at first when I was younger. And it's intimidating, right? You're telling, you're pretty…eventually your, you know, your most inner thoughts and that is I take that as a very humbling experience for me. I value that people are willing to share things that they wouldn't share with, maybe even their best friend. So, I take that very seriously. I also try and bring in humor.will tell them that, for instance, my mother told me everybody wasn't going to like me. And that is certainly the case. And that's okay, you know, we're not everybody's cup of tea. And if I'm not the right fit for you, go somewhere else, and I will help you go somewhere else. I will not take offense to that. And I think I hope that other thera...
In this episode, Adam Turner shares his journey through relationships, exploring the patterns and red flags he encountered along the way. He reflects on a decade of avoiding dating, the lessons learned from his early relationships, and the role of therapy in understanding himself better. Through candid storytelling, he emphasizes the importance of awareness and self-discovery in personal growth and emotional health.TakeawaysThis isn't a story about failed relationships.Experience alone doesn't equal growth. Awareness does.What patterns have shown up more than once in your relationships?I wasn't incapable of connecting, just immature.I wanted to help or take their pain away.Therapy isn't about taking advice from someone who's been there.This relationship wasn't shaky due to a breakdown in communication.I needed someone to help me see myself clearly.Sometimes the hardest step is simply showing up.Take the lead when it comes to depression. Episode Disclaimer This episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this conversation, Katie shares her profound journey through mental health challenges, including the onset of panic attacks, her experiences with various treatments, and the impact on her family. She discusses her time at Hopeway, a treatment facility that provided her with a supportive community and various therapeutic activities. Katie emphasizes the importance of seeking help, the tools she uses for coping, and her commitment to advocating for mental health awareness and support. TakeawaysKatie experienced panic attacks that disrupted her life.She sought help from therapists and psychiatrists.Her journey included a stay at a behavioral health facility.Hopeway provided a supportive community for healing.Katie's family struggled to understand her mental health challenges.She emphasizes the importance of self-care and coping strategies.Katie found joy in serving her community post-treatment.She advocates for mental health awareness and support.Katie learned that feelings of depression are not permanent.Her experience has opened conversations about mental health in her family. Episode Disclaimer This episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this conversation, Adam Turner and Darby Danko explore the intricacies of therapy, focusing on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). They discuss the value of group therapy, the application of therapeutic techniques, and the journey of self-discovery and healing. Darby shares insights on emotional regulation, distress tolerance, and the significance of seeking help from a professional. The conversation emphasizes the value of personal connection in therapy and the various ways individuals can define progress in their mental health journey.TakeawaysGroup therapy creates a sense of warmth and connection.CBT focuses on the interconnection of thoughts, feelings, and behaviors.DBT emphasizes acceptance and change in emotional responses.Therapy requires personal connection for effective healing.Awareness of cognitive distortions is crucial in therapy.Progress in therapy is subjective and varies for each individual.Distress tolerance skills are often more accessible than emotion regulation skills.Mindfulness is a key component of DBT and overall mental health.Therapy can help individuals feel less alone in their struggles.Seeking help is a sign of strength and worthiness. Episode Disclaimer This episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
The Question I Couldn’t Answer begins with a routine doctor’s appointment and a simple question about family medical history—one I realized I couldn’t answer when it came to mental health. A call to my mother brought not only clarity, but unexpected details I was hearing for the first time. This episode reflects on what we inherit, what goes unspoken, and how understanding our past can shape our healing.TakeawaysMental health discussions are crucial for understanding personal struggles.Family dynamics play a significant role in mental health.Support systems are vital during times of illness.Resilience can be built through shared experiences and challenges.Marriage requires ongoing effort and communication to thrive.Recognizing signs of depression can be difficult amidst daily responsibilities.Therapy and counseling can provide valuable tools for couples.Personal reflections can lead to greater self-awareness and healing.It's important to express feelings and maintain open communication with loved ones.Shared experiences can foster deeper connections and understanding. Episode Disclaimer This episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
In this episode, Adam Turner shares his personal journey of returning to work after a 60-day break due to mental health challenges. He discusses the feelings of overwhelm that led to his time off, the therapeutic processes he engaged in, and the tools he learned to manage anxiety upon his return. Adam emphasizes the importance of taking things one day at a time and acknowledges that returning to work is part of a larger healing journey.TakeawaysI felt overwhelmed by work and relationships.I stopped taking my prescribed medication cold turkey.I didn't want to stay in sales for over a decade.I finally decided to reach out for help.I filled out my paperwork for group therapy.I learned about CBT and DBT in therapy.I had to try different ADHD meds to concentrate.I was calm leading up to my return to work.Returning to work isn't the end of healing.It's okay to wobble a little bit during the journey. Episode Disclaimer This episode of Dancing With Depression includes conversations about mental health that may be sensitive for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised. The content shared reflects personal experiences and perspectives and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. If you are in crisis or need immediate support, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. For non-emergency support and resources, contact the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800-950-NAMI (6264).
Welcome back to another episode of Dancing with Depression. I'm Adam. And today I want to talk about something I never thought I would talk about. Group therapy. Or as I said at the time, group therapy. OK. So let me rewind just a little bit. On July 22nd, I felt like I was drowning at work. Now, I'm sure we've all felt overwhelmed before. You know, that feeling of spinning your wheels, crossing one thing off of your to-do list, only to have three more things show up. But this felt different. Everyday responsibilities, mounting stress, and the weight of trying to hold it all together, it just became too much. And I couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. The next day, July 23rd. I found myself sitting with my psychiatrist and after that conversation, I made the decision that I've never made before. I submitted a claim for short-term disability. I didn't fully understand what that even meant or what came next. I didn't fully understand what that meant or even what came next. I just knew one thing for sure. The way I was living wasn't working. My hope was that some time away from work might just help me catch my breath. You know, maybe reset. How? I had no clue. I just knew I couldn't keep going the way I was. As I started planning what time away would look like, both my psychiatrist and therapist suggested something I hadn't even considered. A mental health clinic. Now that was definitely not part of my plan. Mostly because let's be honest, I didn't have one. So I did what most of us do when we're unsure of something. I did a Google search. And it was like I was choosing a restaurant while on vacation. And I went straight to the reviews. The clinic that had been recommended had received a 3.6 out of five stars, with 113 reviews, which I felt was a significant amount to gauge what kind of facility this would be. Now, I don't know about you, but I tend to jump straight to the bad reviews so that one, I could determine if it was worth going any further. But I also, think, was subconsciously building my exit strategy as to why this wouldn't be a good fit. But I read probably 10 different reviews. And I realized that there wasn't anything that consistently stood out. There were some challenges I'm sure people experience, but they seem to be very isolated. And many of them were about the food not being that great. That's. Wasn't going to be strong enough for me to to say no. And. I always remind myself that especially when you're reading other people's experiences and reviews that there's always two sides to every story and the truth usually lands somewhere in between. So I decided to move on and check out the website, learn a little bit more about the different programs that they had to offer. And I read they had three options. The first one was residential. The second one was PHP. And the third one was IOP. So the website breaks down what each of those programs consist of and Essentially, the residential program is that of what it sounds. You're living on their facility, which happens to be in 30 minutes away from where I am. But you're there for 30 days and you are in full day group therapy. You have weekly psychiatrist and therapist sessions, and then they have weekend activities like yoga or journaling or ARP. The second option was PHP, which is partial hospitalization. Again, you're going to their facility. It's a structured day, so you're there from 9 o'clock in the morning till 4 in the afternoon, Monday through Friday. But you go home. And the third option is IOP, which is intensive outpatient. It's much more flexible. I learned later on that a lot of people step down and kind of use the IOP to transition from a residential program into kind of going back into their normal routine. The way I viewed IOP was I could still be at home and that was what was comfortable for me. My initial reaction with regards to residential was no way. And the funny part was I said to myself, I'm not mentally ready for residential. Yeah, not mentally ready for mental health treatment. Sounds ridiculous, but this is also the same guy that admitted that he stopped taking all of his medications cold turkey. So. That's where I was at. I landed on IOP. As I mentioned, it felt like the safest choice. I could be in my own home and honestly. I didn't go in with big expectations or goals on what I was hoping to get from therapy, I just knew that I had to do something. And like everything within the medical or healthcare systems, there was forms that I had to fill out. There was screenings and evaluations to ensure that I could benefit from the program. And eventually I did end up getting the call that I had been accepted and I was scheduled to start August 15th at 9 a.m. In the days leading up to that, my mind was racing and asking questions like, is this really happening? Is this going to help me? How did I even get here? But first day came and those questions shifted from curiosity to a full on panic. I remember logging into the zoom call. And I use zoom for work all the time, so I'm very comfortable with it. But this. This was different. You see at work. Everyone centered in their frame. They have good lighting. Polished backgrounds, whether they have like a blur or a background of a place that they want to go to and you can't see everything in the background. This call started off very differently. People were laying down in their bed. Cameras were pointing up at the ceiling. Someone was on a hike. Another person was folding their laundry. And I couldn't help but think to myself, what the hell have I gotten myself into? Glanced at the clock. It was 906 a.m. And I just told myself, just get through the next two hours and 54 minutes. And we can try and figure out where to go from here. But I certainly didn't think it was going to be another session. And then the clinician welcomed everyone. And asked if anyone had something that they wanted to process. And I remember my therapist saying to me that it's okay to just listen for a while. Don't feel like you have to participate until you're ready if you're ready. And someone started to share. And I remember shortly after that saying, think this is going to be helpful and looking at the clock and seeing that it was 9.10. It's amazing what four minutes can do. So of course... So what changed? Well, I think first and foremost, I took a step back. I let my guard down and instead of focusing on all of these things that were different, with how they looked and their cameras and distractions everywhere, I realized that I was that person just in a different setting.There were days that I didn't get out of bed. There were days, not days like in a day, like multiple days where I didn't take a shower. And I was hiding from essentially being seen. These folks were brave enough to turn their cameras on and give what they had. And so... I started to see the similarities as opposed to the differences. And those differences weren't even between me and other people. was environment wise, work versus group ther...
Welcome back to another episode of Dancing With Depression.I want to start with a quick update on where I stand after several months of being off my anxiety and depression medication. I’m happy to say that some small but meaningful improvements have shown up—I’m taking more showers, and when my laundry is done drying, I actually fold it and put it away. Small wins matter.But it hasn’t all been easy. Anxiety still creeps in—especially at work—and depression still rears its ugly head. The toughest part is, I rarely recognize it in the moment. For example, not too long ago, I told Bobbie I was thinking about selling everything in my man cave—my vinyl records, my favorite movie posters, and even my sports jerseys. Bobbie gently asked if it was really what I wanted, or if it was my depression talking. After some reflection, I realized she was right—it was depression.That moment connects to another experience I had while listening to music. A lyric jumped out at me: “But I can’t be your only remedy; tryin’ to save you, gon’ kill me.” It’s from the song “Dear Alcohol” by Dax, with that line sung by Carly Pearl in the remix. If you haven’t heard it, go check it out—you won’t be disappointed. That lyric stood out to me because of a specific conversation Bobbie and I had just a few weeks prior. Which brings me to today’s episode. What you’re about to hear is a conversation between Bobbie & I, which took place two months after the initial conversation where Bobbie so accurately describes it as “Giving it to me…” a very difficult—but necessary—moment where Bobbie shared where she was in our relationship: what she was missing, and what she needed if I couldn’t provide it. It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to listen to, but it was also honest and truthful. And yes, it happened on my birthday—but for me, that was just a coincidence that showed how important it was for her to get it out.So, with that context, let’s jump in.In the last episode, I invited you to walk in my shoes as I shared what it was like to stop taking medication cold turkey. This time, I want to turn things around. Today, I invite you to walk in the shoes of my wife, Bobbie. She’ll be sharing her perspective on what it’s like to live with—and love—someone with a mental health diagnosis. She’ll talk about the challenges she’s faced, what she needed in order to keep supporting me, and how she decided whether our foundation was strong enough to withstand the tornado of my anxiety and depression.Before we begin, let me tell you a little about Bobbie. She spends her days caring for patients as a dental hygienist. Now, I know some of you might cringe just thinking about going to the dentist, but trust me—there’s something different, something special, about Bobbie’s abilities. And I’m not just saying that because I’m her husband. The patient reviews back it up. And besides, I’m not just her husband—I’m also her patient.Over our 9 ½ years of marriage, one thing has become clear: Bobbie doesn’t speak just to fill the silence. When she shares something, it’s because she’s thought it through. So when she told me she had something important to share, I knew I needed to pay attention.And the truth is, Bobbie’s knowledge in this area has always been ahead of mine. While I can clear out a sports-related Jeopardy category, she’s the one who has the science and chemistry answers locked down. I still can’t pronounce half of the prescriptions I’ve been on, but she sounds like a pharmacist.Her compassion and understanding carried us far, but eventually, she reached a point where she needed to ask me directly: was I going to stay in survival mode, or was I ready to put in the work—for us?This is that conversation, recorded two months after that pivotal moment. Let’s listen.--------Start of audio DWD S2 E3 – A Partners Perspective 2 of 3I think you mean what happened that I decided to have the conversation. What put me over the edge. don't know what put me over the edge, but I just felt like I care about our relationship and if it was gonna continue, it couldn't continue to go on the way that it was. I couldn't continue like we were and I care enough that I wanna address it and not let it die. And so we're obviously addressing my anxiety and depression and you know, I think we've talked about this, that we show what we want to show. And there's things that you're dealing with that I might not have realized in the moment. So what are some of the things that you deal with? ⁓ The conversation was just a check-in. I think if you are not open and honest with your partner, then you don't really have a relationship. So if I'm not telling you how I feel... What are we doing? And it was kind of where I was at. I couldn't continue to do what, quote, we were doing, because we weren't doing. I was struggling alone, trying to hold everything in, because you were dealing with stuff. And I didn't want to put my stuff on you and make things worse. But at the same time, if you're not checking in with your partner, then you're essentially abandoning them. It's everybody's responsibility as part of a partnership to be there and be honest and be open. And I just felt like I couldn't do it anymore. I was struggling with my own independence and trying to meet your needs and your desires of how things go financially and autonomy and all different kinds of things in a relationship and I feel like I'm a pretty independent person and I'm probably not as nice as I should be and not as thoughtful and I just want to do what I want to do so it takes a lot of work to be a good partner the one that I would want for myself and the one that I would want you to have, the one that you deserve. So on your birthday, I decided to tell you how horrible our relationship was in the current state. We joke, I mean, we laugh about it, but I think, you know, I think the most, one of the most important things is this happened on a day that was my birthday, but it's not how it's planned, right? It's just, that's when it came to a boil. It wasn't like you woke up and you're like, you know what? How can I find a way to screw his birthday up? Just a background. mean, I did something that I wasn't supposed to do and I had to live with my actions. I went and asserted my own personal beliefs about using a credit card and buying something that I wanted, that I value because I was in a bad place emotionally. I needed to assert myself. I needed to do what I needed to do to survive. And it's not the way that you're comfortable using credit cards. And I know that. And we're a partnership. So we're not supposed to do anything that makes the other uncomfortable. But I felt like it was an act of survival for me to do that and go against you and not care that you didn't like it and to tell you that I did it against your wishes because I needed to do it for me in order to survive in that moment. And I needed you to push back. That's what I think a lot of people are missing. If you're not sharing and you're not open and you're not honest, sometimes you just need to feel like you're not alone. Fast forward, I returned of my own volition all of the jewelry. I undid what I did and I didn't do it for you. I did it because I was taking care of myself. And I needed to figure out why I was feeling like I needed to do that for myself. I ruined your birthday and we went on and we had a fabulous birthday but I found you again. I lost you. You weren't with me. I wasn't sharing with you because I was trying to protect you from all t...
Welcome back to another episode of Dancing With Depression. Today’s conversation is one that’s deeply personal, raw, and vulnerable. We’re diving into the effects of medication—what it’s like when I’m on it, and what happened when I decided, on my own, to stop taking it.Before we begin, I want to make something very clear: these are my personal experiences. If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health, please seek professional help. You can call 1-800-950-NAMI (that’s 1-800-950-6264) or text NAMI to 62640. You're not alone, and there are people who care and want to help.There’s a saying that I think is the perfect framework for this episode:“Don’t judge someone until you’ve walked in their shoes.”So, today, I invite you to walk in mine.----The DecisionA few months ago, I made a decision—not recommended by a professional, not thought out, and definitely not the smartest one in my 49 years on this earth—to stop all of my medication. Yup, cold turkey.And when I say “all,” I mean ALL:My anxiety and depression medicationMy diabetes medicationMy cholesterol medicationLet me pause and give you a second to ask the question that everyone asks me when I tell them this: “Why?” “What were you thinking?”And my honest answer is:I don’t know.I just knew I was tired of feeling like a numb little bug. Of going through life like a robot. Sure, the medication was working—it was helping my anxiety and depression—but I didn’t feel like myself. I wasn’t folding laundry, wasn’t showering regularly, wasn’t picking up the phone to call people I love. I wanted to do these things, I had internal conversations about doing these things, I even said how beneficial they would be…but no action followed.Even joy started feeling… muted.----The CrashThe first sign something was wrong? I was keeping myself awake until I couldn’t keep my eyes open any longer. I’ve always been a night owl, but this was different. I’d be up at 2, 3, 4 a.m., not because I was energized—but because I was trying to keep my brain busy until it just gave out. I didn’t want to be alone with my thoughts.And here’s where I need to tread carefully. The thoughts I was having were about death, but not suicide. I was struggling with the concept of life and death—grappling with existence itself. It's hard to explain, and maybe I’ll try in another episode once I can wrap my brain around it a little better. But it was scary, and heavy, and consuming. I’d like to add that this moment was part of my crash, and if I had chosen not to share it, only a select few would have known. But not everyone has that luxury.Society today is quick to pull out a phone and record a developing situation, hoping it “goes viral.” Maybe this name rings a bell, maybe it doesn’t—but what comes to mind when I say Delonte West?Delonte West was a professional basketball player in the NBA. He played for the Dallas Mavericks, Boston Celtics, and Cleveland Cavaliers, earning just over $16 million over the course of eight seasons. His story perfectly reflects the saying, “Don’t judge someone until you’ve walked in their shoes.”In 2022, a video of Delonte West went viral showing the former NBA player panhandling in a gas station parking lot. The overwhelming majority of the comments focused on how much money he had made during his career, as if being an NBA player somehow protected him from “being human.” People judged him without knowing he was battling addiction and had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder.We have access to an endless amount of information, yet we still haven’t mastered the ability to understand what is happening in someone’s life—much less why it’s happening.We have to do better. I encourage you to do better…----A Glimmer of GoodNow, I won’t say there weren’t any positives. The biggest one? I was reintroduced to my emotions. I cried when watching the video of a soldier come home and surprising his family. You know the ones I’m talking about….– I ugly cried watching the Disney/Pixar movie - Inside Out – nothing like a good cry!That emotion had been missing for years, often times I questioned if it would ever reappear. It did & I’m glad!And I’ve restarted my diabetes and cholesterol meds. ----The Ripple EffectWhat I didn’t realize at the time was how much this decision impacted not just me—but everyone around me.1. WorkLet’s start with work. In sales, hitting quota isn’t just about personal pride—it directly affects your manager’s income. When I stopped my meds, my performance dropped. I missed my quota for months.Many managers would’ve written me off. “Burnout,” they’d say. Or “maybe he’s looking for a new job.” But my manager? He noticed something was off.He didn’t pry. He just said, “I’m here if you need anything.” And when I finally told him what I was going through—he didn’t judge. He listened. That didn’t change the company’s expectations, of course. I still had to hit quota. But it made me feel seen, and that made a difference.2. FamilyThen there’s my family. I had a two-hour phone call with my brother—well, I talked for nearly two hours, he probably got five minutes in. Which clearly earned him the “GREAT LISTENER” badge!!! But in those five minutes, he dropped something that hit hard. My mom had been wondering why I only called on the way to dinner. Calls that always ended abruptly when I reached the restaurant.I hadn’t realized how that made her feel.Like I was squeezing her into a schedule, not prioritizing our time.That moment humbled me. This journey isn’t just affecting me—it’s affecting the people who love me. And that’s something I have to own.BobbieNow for the part that hit me the hardest: Bobbie.Bobbie has loved me through everything. And I’ll be honest—I don’t always understand how she does it. She sends me motivational videos, encourages walks, shares wellness tips, and somehow still believes in me when I can’t believe in myself.She reminds me daily that there’s hope.She educates me on ways to get through & reduce my anxiety & depression:That food is the most abused anxiety drugThat sunlight is medicineThat 7 minutes of laughter can change your entire moodThat 8 hours of sleep isn’t optionalThat movement mattersThat I can still LIVE, not just surviveAnd she challenges me, lovingly, to put in the work. To show up for myself. Because she knows I can do it, even when I don’t.----The GoalSo here’s where I am today: I’m not “fixed.” This isn’t the end of the movie where everything gets tied up in a neat little bow.But I’m better than I was four weeks ago.
In this deeply personal Season 2 premiere, Adam Turner sits down with his father for an honest and emotional conversation about depression, resilience, and reflection across generations. From childhood illness to antisemitism, from the classroom to the synagogue, Adam’s father shares the moments that shaped his mental health—and how he managed to show up anyway as a teacher, husband, and father.This episode is more than a story—it’s a powerful reminder that depression doesn’t always look like what we expect. Through music, long drives, theater, and faith, Adam’s father found ways to navigate his darkest moments. And in doing so, he kept a promise to his children that shaped Adam’s own journey with depression.Key Discussion Points:How childhood health struggles and school experiences planted early emotional woundsFacing antisemitism in education and community lifeThe emotional toll of teaching and the transition into retirementFinding solace in music, fishing, acting, and serviceHow depression affects relationships—and how counseling can helpParenting through depression and keeping promises that heal across generationsKey Takeaways:Depression can build over decades and resurface in surprising waysCoping mechanisms—like music, nature, or storytelling—can offer powerful reliefTalking about pain doesn’t just bring healing—it passes on strengthA parent’s quiet consistency may become a child’s lifelong anchorRetelling our stories can shift shame into legacyJoin the Conversation:Have you had a conversation like this with a loved one? I’d love to hear your reflections. Email me at: dancingwithdepression@yahoo.comUntil next time, remember: when it comes to depression, Take the Lead.
In today's episode, I explore the complex impact social media has had on my life. I share how it has helped me stay connected with loved ones 800 miles away while also consuming hours of my day and leaving me feeling desensitized and questioning my identity. I share my struggles with managing my time on various social media platforms and reflect on how this constant content consumption has affected my compassion. Additionally, I ponder the critical question: "How does a child or teenager process this unfiltered content?" Join me as I navigate the highs and lows of our digital age.Dancing With Depression is part of QuietLoud Studios.A podcast network where reflection and voice come together.Learn more: https://quietloudstudios.com/Need assistance with your podcast? Connect with KazCM. They make content creation enjoyable and accessible.Learn more: https://kazcm.com/--More about this episode "The Double-Edged Sword of Social Media":Do you think you spend too much time on Social Media? I don’t think I do…I KNOW I DO! Of course I have good reasons to be on platforms like Facebook, Instagram & TikTok…my wife views my “reasons” more like excuses. I originally used Facebook to stay connected with my friends & family back after I moved to NC from CT. I was able to watch the journey of a friend go from taking care of several teenagers to taking care of herself and graduate college – she was in her 40’s when she graduated with honors, I watched another friend live her dream & become a mother to 2 boys, not to mention all of the births, birthdays,Weddings, Anniversaries & other life changing events that took place while I was 800 miles away. As far as Instagram & TikTok well…I’ve got nothing – it became more of a time sucker. I find the videos posted on Instagram & TikTok to be very entertaining, but 3 hours later the ONLY thing I can think about is the garbage still needs to be taken out, the dishes aren’t going to wash themselves & if I don’t do a load of laundry people are going to see me in the same clothes for the 3rd day in a row!!! Have you ever ask why we spend so much time on Social Media? Recently, I did just that! I wanted to see when I went on, for how long, & what was I looking at. I realized I went on to distract myself from “life”…it was an escape from having to be a responsible adult. I was on different social media platforms for hours on end & the content I was consuming wasn’t specific – it ranged from watching people get their ear wax removed, to watching cattle get their hooves cleaned & cut, to barbers cutting hair, to dance competition videos, to sports highlights, and on and on and on. The content was NEVER ENDING and it had WHATEVER YOU WERE LOOKING FOR AT THAT MOMENT!!! Before TikTok I wasn’t interested in ear wax removal…but I am FACINATED BY IT NOW!!! The videos I mentioned are light hearted, but there is a never ending amount of videos that contains footage of things, in my opinion, the general public shouldn’t have access to. For example, a video showing a man being suffocated to death when an officer had his knee on the neck of the victim for 8 min & 46 seconds…of which 2 minutes & 53 seconds of that time the victim was non-responsive. I’m not looking to start a debate about what happened leading up to that incident – my point is focused on the fact that anyone with cable, internet access or a smartphone could see the footage of this man’s eventual death. What effect does this have on our society? How does a child, a teenager, a mother, a brother, a father, process this info – I’ve shared my experiences with death and the effect I believe they have on me 30+ years later. The combination of curiosity & accessibility appears to be a dangerous combination. Just the other day I was eating lunch and decided to distract myself by watching some videos online – when I read a caption that lead me to believe I really don’t want to watch this video…but I didn’t have the discipline not to hit play. The caption reads “Laughing Teens Intentionally Drive Car Into Cyclist, KILLING HIM” – (PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUSE) After watching the video there were a few things that went through my mind: How? Why? & WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?The how was directed at how was this so easily accessible The why was about the thought process of these teenagersFinally, the what is wrong with me was specific to the fact I just witnessed a man being murdered and it was as if I had watched this happen a dozen times before. I was sympathetic and felt terrible thinking about this man, his family, etc. But why wasn’t I crying, sick to my stomach, SOMETHING MORE! Am I numb to this behavior? I don’t know with 100% certainty, but I do know it follows a similar pattern in my life as I track down the root of my depression. There is no question that ones’ personal experience will have a greater effect on that individual in comparison to learning or witnessing what they experienced, but for me hearing about someones traumatic experience or watching a video of it has had an effect on my mental health. It’s like watching a scary movie – lets say specifically about ghosts…I might not have had a personal encounter with a ghost, heck I might not even “believe” ghosts exist, but you better believe if I find myself in a similar setting where the fog is rising from the ground late at night and the only sound I hear is that of an owl…I am confident my mind will recall the movie I watched & how it made me feel. So is it far fetched that watching a video of a man taking his last breath or a bicyclist being mowed down by a car could have an impact on our mental health? I can't believe I just saw that happen... The feeling of shock and disbelief lingered in my mind long after I had closed the social media app. It was a video, one of those disturbing ones that seem to surface on your feed when you least expect it. It wasn't a scene from a horror movie or some fictional gore, but a stark, real-life incident that left me questioning not only my online habits but also the impact of such content on our mental health."Do you think you spend too much time on Social Media?" my wife had asked me once, and though I initially brushed it off, I couldn't help but wonder if she had a point. It's true; social media platforms like Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok have their merits. They connect us with friends and family, allowing us to witness the milestones and joys of their lives, even when we're miles apart. But lately, it seemed like I was drowning in an endless sea of content, scrolling past countless videos that ranged from amusing to outright bizarre.I decided to investigate my own habits. I tracked when I went online, how long I stayed, and what I was looking at. The results were eye-opening. Social media had become an escape, a distraction from the responsibilities of adult life. Hours melted away as I watched everything from oddly satisfying earwax removals to the mesmerizing artistry of barbers cutting hair. It was a never-ending stream of content, tailored to whatever fleeting interest I had at the moment.However, there was a darker side to this endless content stream. Among the light-hearted and entertaining videos, there lurked videos that exposed the harsh realities of the world. I stumbled upon a video showing a man being suffocated to death, pinned down by an officer's knee for agonizing minutes. The sheer accessibility of such traumatic content was disturbing. Anyone with an internet c...
In today’s episode, I discuss the CDs spinning in my 5-disc changer and explore their profound impact on me. I highlight three songs, each unique in genre, lyrics, and emotional resonance. Relating to a song is a deeply personal and emotional experience shaped by the powerful connection between the lyrics, melody, and the listener's own thoughts, feelings, and experiences. Join me as I unpack the diverse ways these songs touch my life and reflect on the universal power of music.Dancing With Depression is part of QuietLoud Studios. A podcast network where reflection and voice come together.Learn more: https://quietloudstudios.com/Need assistance with your podcast? Connect with KazCM. They make content creation enjoyable and accessible.Learn more: https://kazcm.com/--More about this episode: "The Impact of Songs & “The One” That Spoke for Me"We all have “our jams”, you know the songs that you can’t not dance to or stop yourself from crying – one can connect with a song for a variety of reasons: Relating to a song is a deeply personal and emotional experience that can vary from person to person. It often involves a strong connection between the lyrics, melody, and the listener's own thoughts, feelings, and experiences. Here are some ways in which someone can relate to a song:1. Lyrics: Many people relate to songs through the lyrics. When the words of a song resonate with someone's own experiences or emotions, it can create a powerful connection. Whether it's a breakup, a celebration, or a reflection on life, lyrics can capture the essence of a particular moment or feeling.2. Emotional resonance: Music has the unique ability to tap into our emotions and stir up deep-seated feelings. A song that mirrors your current emotional state or helps you express what you're feeling can be incredibly relatable. It's like the song is giving voice to your emotions.3. Personal experiences: Sometimes, a song can evoke memories and transport you back to a particular time and place in your life. When a song is linked to a specific memory or period, it can create a strong sense of connection.4. Themes and stories: Songs often tell stories or convey themes that are universally relatable. Whether it's a song about love, friendship, loss, or resilience, these themes can connect with a wide range of listeners who have experienced similar situations.5. Cultural and societal context: A song can also reflect the cultural or societal context in which it was created. It may address social issues, capture the spirit of a generation, or comment on current events. Listeners who identify with these contexts may find the song relatable in a broader sense.6. Musical elements: It's not always about the lyrics or the theme of a song. The music itself, including the melody, rhythm, and instrumentation, can evoke emotions and resonate with listeners. A simple melody can be just as relatable as profound lyrics.7. Identity and self-expression: Some songs can become anthems for individuals or communities, helping people express their identities or beliefs. These songs serve as a form of self-expression and create a sense of belonging.8. Interpretation and perspective: The same song can be interpreted in different ways by different people, depending on their unique perspectives and experiences. This allows for a diverse range of listeners to relate to a song in their own distinct manner.9. Personal growth and change: Songs that reflect personal growth, transformation, or overcoming challenges can be particularly relatable during times of change or self-discovery. They may serve as sources of inspiration and motivation.10. Connection with the artist: Sometimes, people relate to a song because they have a deep admiration for the artist. Their connection to the artist's life story, struggles, or creative journey can make the song more relatable.In the end, relating to a song is a subjective and highly personal experience. It's about finding a piece of music that resonates with your emotions, experiences, and the unique story of your life. Music has the power to connect us with ourselves and others, providing solace, joy, and a sense of belonging in the process. What song or song(s) do you connect with? How does it make you feel? Where does it take you? Who do you think of?There are hundreds of songs that I connect with, but 3 songs that stand out – although the genre, the message & the time in my life I was introduced to vary…they are all equally impactful! The first song that hits me is C.R.E.A.M by Wu-Tang Clan…I’ll let that sit for a second, not because I’m a 47 year old white guy from Connecticut…no wait that is EXACTLY why I will let you catch up. If you have ever been to a Wu-Tang concert you wouldn’t really be surprised hearing a 47 year old white guy likes them – I’ve had the pleasure of seeing them twice – the 1st time they played with Rage Against the Machine and the 2nd time was 25 years later as they celebrated the release of 36 Chambers album. The ONLY difference I saw – we all aged – some of us only 25 years, while others a little more! Just like it was 25 years earlier, the crowd was a melting pot of people from all walks of life. We all came together to appreciate great music! Connecting with a song, for me, can be in a few different ways. The music, a hook or the lyrics as a whole can speak to me. I connect via the music for a lot of hip-hop songs, but when it comes to C.R.E.A.M it’s the message the hook delivers and I think that is important to understand, because if someone hears me singing “It’s been 22 long hard years of still strugglin’” --- “We got stickup kids, corrupt cops, and crack rocks And stray shots, all on the block that stays hot” or “handcuffed in back of a bus, 40 of us” no one would be able to understand how I am “relating” to the lyrics. However, when the hook comes in “Cash Rules Everything around me – CREAM get the money Dollar, Dollar bill, y’all” it speaks directly to me. If I wanted the new Air Jordan’s I needed money, if I wanted a car – I needed money, if I wanted to buy a house instead of renting – I needed more money --- then I started my sales career and Cash LITERALLY RULED EVERYTHING AROUND ME…there aren’t many things that can’t be taken care of with a little more cash. I don’t want to turn this into a debate, but I’ve heard the argument that money can’t buy you love & I agree with you on that, buuuuuuuuuuut it has bought things that resemble “love” – all kidding aside the other one I hear is – It can’t buy you time/health…I agree it can’t buy you perfect health or an unlimited amount of time, but money can buy better health care which leads to living longer…just ask Magic Johnson!!! The next song that I connect with on a deep level is Shania Twain’s “From This Moment On” – this is Bobbie & I’s wedding song! I get chills just thinking about it. Our love story doesn’t start until our late 30’s as I met Bobbie when she was 37 & I was 39. We met on JDATE (a Jewish Dating Website) – and this love story happens QUICK. I liked her...



