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Podcast episode for AI #142: Common Ground.* 00:00:00 - Introduction* 00:01:34 - Table of Contents* 00:04:25 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility* 00:07:32 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility* 00:08:53 - Huh, Upgrades* 00:09:26 - On Your Marks* 00:09:55 - Copyright Confrontation* 00:11:25 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon* 00:13:40 - Fun With Media Generation* 00:16:25 - So You’ve Decided To Become Evil* 00:21:31 - They Took Our Jobs* 00:22:29 - A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer* 00:24:43 - Get Involved* 00:24:51 - Introducing* 00:25:47 - In Other AI News* 00:27:35 - Show Me the Money* 00:30:55 - Common Ground* 00:33:55 - Quiet Speculations* 00:43:41 - ‘AI Progress Is Slowing Down’ Is Not Slowing Down* 00:46:09 - Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble* 00:48:01 - The Quest for Government Money* 00:53:54 - Chip City* 00:58:30 - The Week in Audio* 00:59:38 - Rhetorical Innovation* 01:06:53 - Galaxy Brain Resistance* 01:15:58 - Misaligned!* 01:17:03 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult* 01:22:06 - Messages From Janusworld* 01:25:58 - You’ll Know* 01:28:13 - People Are Worried About AI Killing Everyone* 01:33:55 - The Lighter SideThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/ai-142-common-ground?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for The Pope Offers Wisdom* 00:00 - Introduction* 00:22 - Wisdom Is Offered* 03:04 - The Context of The Meme Andreessen Used (If You Don’t Know)* 05:03 - Andreessen Takes Bold Stand Against Moral Discernment* 07:09 - Tech World Decides Performative Cruelty May Have Gone Too Far* 10:47 - The Avatar of Societal Decay* 11:39 - Marc’s Technical Takes And Arguments Also Are Not Good* 12:42 - The Best Defense* 14:46 - You’re All Wondering Why You’re Here TodayThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/the-pope-offers-wisdom?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for Kimi K2 Thinking* 00:00 - Introduction* 00:29 - Introducing K2 Thinking* 02:03 - Writing Quality* 02:52 - Agentic Tool Use* 04:03 - Overall* 05:10 - Are Benchmarks Being Targeted?* 06:19 - Just As Good Syndrome* 06:58 - Reactions* 09:29 - Otherwise It Has Been Strangely QuietThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/kimi-k2-thinking?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for Variously Effective Altruism.* 00:00 - Introduction* 00:13 - Preventing Value Drift* 01:14 - Maximizing Good Makes People Look Bad* 02:20 - No We Have No Tuition* 03:25 - Will MacAskill and the Dangers of PR Focus* 11:41 - Tag, You’re It* 14:21 - Impact PhilanthropyThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/variously-effective-altruism?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

A “From the Archives” episode, the full Immoral Mazes sequence.* 00:00:00 - Introduction* 00:07:07 - Moloch Hasn’t Won, By Zvi Mowshowitz, December 28th, 2019* 00:07:23 - Meditations on Moloch* 00:12:50 - That’s Not How This Works, That’s Not How Any of This Works* 00:15:15 - Moloch’s Army: An As-Yet Unjustified But Important Note* 00:16:53 - Meditations on Elua* 00:21:41 - Perfect Competition, By Zvi Mowshowitz, December 29th, 2019* 00:21:51 - Perfect Competition* 00:24:03 - Remind Me: What Exactly is Perfect Competition?* 00:25:52 - Super-Perfect Competition* 00:29:39 - Universal Perfect Competition* 00:34:38 - Shocks are Inevitable* 00:37:24 - Imperfect Competition, By Zvi Mowshowitz, December 30th, 2019* 00:38:22 - 1. The Local Farmer’s Market* 00:44:51 - 2. Supermarkets* 00:48:57 - 3. Restaurants (in brief)* 00:50:25 - 4. Buying a Car* 00:56:55 - Does Big Business Hate Your Family?, By Zvi Mowshowitz, December 31st, 2019* 00:57:53 - Reminder: Sufficiently Powerful Optimization Of Any Known Target Destroys All Value* 00:58:41 - Does Big Business Hate Your Family?* 01:03:30 - Do The Managers of Big Businesses Hate Your Family?* 01:05:05 - Lacking all Preferences* 01:07:04 - What is Life in an Immoral Maze?, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 5th, 2020* 01:08:41 - The Lifestyle of a Middle Manager* 01:16:31 - Stripping Away the Protections, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 8th, 2020* 01:29:38 - The Opt-Out Clause* 01:31:40 - Is This Missing Something?* 01:32:31 - Mazes Everywhere* 01:34:01 - The Next Questions* 01:34:52 - What is Success in an Immoral Maze?, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 10th, 2020* 01:39:24 - How to Identify an Immoral Maze, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 12th, 2020* 01:41:16 - 1. How many levels of hierarchy exist?* 01:44:05 - 2. Do people have skin in the game?* 01:45:28 - 3. Do people have soul in the game?* 01:46:12 - 4. How do people describe their job when you ask?* 01:46:48 - 5. Is there diversity of skill levels? Is excellence possible and rewarded?* 01:47:25 - 6. Is there slack?* 01:47:45 - 7. Pay Attention* 01:48:05 - Other Notes* 01:48:55 - How Escape From Immoral Mazes, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 16th, 2020* 01:49:53 - To reiterate the main personal-level takeaway* 01:50:14 - Problem statement* 01:51:06 - How do we avoid immoral mazes?* 01:52:24 - What do you do if you find yourself inside a maze?* 01:52:51 - How do we justify our choice to others?* 01:54:42 - How do you go about telling your new story? (Justification continued)* 01:58:37 - What if my family or culture won’t accept my justifications?* 02:02:21 - What if you’ve already self-modified too much?* 02:04:27 - What if mazes are where our human and - or social capital pays off?* 02:11:41 - If mazes are where my social and - or human capital pays off, what should I do?* 02:13:39 - Become a Loser* 02:15:12 - Take Risks* 02:17:09 - Can You Change Things From the Top?* 02:18:23 - What about if you are doing object-level work without anyone who reports to you, but you have a maze above you?* 02:22:11 - Do I have a moral obligation to work in mazes to maximize my charitable giving?* 02:23:20 - The Road to Mazedom, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 18th, 2020* 02:38:00 - How Doomed are Large Organizations?, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 21st, 2020* 02:39:17 - Are these dynamics the inevitable result of large organizations?* 02:40:12 - How can we forestall these dynamics within an organization?* 02:43:27 - The Goodhart Trap* 02:46:13 - To what extent should we avoid creating large organizations?* 02:50:33 - Has this dynamic ever been different in the past in other places and times?* 02:55:50 - Ten Causes of Mazedom, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 25th, 2020* 02:56:56 - Why was it different? Can we duplicate those causes?* 02:57:52 - Cause 1: More Real Need For Large Organizations* 02:59:45 - Cause 2: Laws and Regulations Favor Large Organizations* 03:01:05 - Cause 3: Less Disruption of Existing Organizations* 03:03:44 - Cause 4: Increased Demand for Illusion of Safety and Security* 03:10:43 - How do these phenomena raise maze levels?* 03:13:56 - Cause 5: Rent Seeking is More Widespread and Seen as Legitimate* 03:14:41 - Cause 6: Big Data, Machine Learning and Internet Economics* 03:17:26 - Cause 7: Ignorance* 03:27:37 - Cause 8: Atomization and the Delegitimization of Human Social Needs* 03:31:43 - Cause 9: Educational System* 03:33:35 - Cause 10: Vicious Cycle* 03:36:53 - More Mazes, More Problems* 03:37:15 - Potential Ways to Fight Mazes, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 28th, 2020* 03:39:37 - Solution 1: Knowledge* 03:43:00 - Solution 2: Regulatory Reform* 03:45:02 - Solution 3: End Corporate Welfare, Too Big to Fail and Implicit Subsidies* 03:49:25 - Solution 4: Tort Reform* 03:52:46 - Solution 5: Health Care Reform* 03:55:46 - Solution 6: Demand Less Illusion of Safety and Security* 03:58:11 - Solution 7: Change Consumer Behavior* 04:01:59 - Solution 8: End Maze Legitimacy and High Status, and - or Raise Real Work Legitimacy and Status* 04:04:18 - Solution 9: Forcibly Break Up Large Companies* 04:10:24 - Last Idea* 04:10:42 - Create a Full Alternative Stack, By Zvi Mowshowitz, January 31st, 2020* 04:11:23 - Solution 10: Create a Full Alternative Stack* 04:21:54 - Protecting Large Projects Against Mazedom, By Zvi Mowshowitz, February 3rd, 2020* 04:23:22 - Solution 1: Do Less Things and Be Smaller* 04:25:33 - Solution 2: Minimize Levels of Hierarchy* 04:25:56 - Solution 3: Skin in the Game* 04:26:29 - Solution 4: Soul in the Game* 04:27:05 - Solution 5: Hire and Fire Carefully* 04:27:31 - Solution 6: Promote, Reward and Evaluate Carefully* 04:28:15 - Solution 7: Fight for Culture* 04:28:38 - Solution 8: Avoid Other Mazes* 04:29:03 - Solution 9: Start Again* 04:29:43 - Mazes Sequence Roundup: Final Thoughts and Paths Forward, By Zvi Mowshowitz, February 6th, 2020* 04:29:59 - Moloch’s Army* 04:31:13 - Moloch’s Puzzle* 04:33:32 - Good News, Everyone!* 04:35:41 - Conclusion* 04:36:49 - Paths Forward* 04:54:43 - AcknowledgementsThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. 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Podcast episode for On Sam Altman’s Second Conversation with Tyler Cowen.* 00:00:00 - Introduction* 00:00:58 - On The Sam Altman Production Function* 00:02:05 - On Hiring Hardware People* 00:04:45 - On What GPT-6 Will Enable* 00:10:30 - On government backstops for AI companies* 00:15:51 - On monetizing AI services* 00:21:16 - On AI’s future understanding of intangibles* 00:26:55 - On Chip-Building* 00:30:05 - On Sam’s outlook on health, alien life, and conspiracy theories* 00:35:00 - On regulating AI agents* 00:37:35 - On new ways to interface with AI* 00:40:00 - On how normies will learn to use AI* 00:44:25 - On AI’s effect on the price of housing and healthcare* 00:48:20 - On reexamining freedom of speech* 00:52:37 - On humanity’s persuadabilityThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/on-sam-altmans-second-conversation?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for AI #141: Give Us The Money.* 00:00:00 - Introduction* 00:01:52 - Table of Contents* 00:04:46 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility* 00:05:11 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility* 00:06:47 - Huh, Upgrades* 00:07:46 - On Your Marks* 00:18:01 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon* 00:20:44 - Fun With Media Generation* 00:21:01 - They Took Our Jobs* 00:21:28 - A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer* 00:22:44 - Get Involved* 00:23:39 - Introducing* 00:24:11 - In Other AI News* 00:25:06 - Apple Finds Some Intelligence* 00:27:40 - Give Me the Money* 00:34:42 - Show Me the Money* 00:41:27 - Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble* 00:44:42 - They’re Not Confessing, They’re Bragging* 00:44:58 - Quiet Speculations* 00:52:43 - The Quest for Sane Regulations* 00:56:34 - Chip City* 00:58:40 - The Week in Audio* 01:03:54 - Rhetorical Innovation* 01:13:17 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult* 01:14:25 - Everyone Is Confused About Consciousness* 01:16:40 - The Potentially Largest Theft In Human History* 01:18:28 - People Are Worried About Dying Before AGI* 01:21:56 - People Are Worried About AI Killing Everyone* 01:27:37 - Other People Are Not As Worried About AI Killing Everyone* 01:30:56 - Messages From JanusworldThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/ai-141-give-us-the-money?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for Anthropic Commits To Model Weight Preservation.* 00:00 - Introduction* 01:36 - What Anthropic Is Doing* 09:30 - Releasing The Weights Is Not A Viable Option* 11:04 - Providing Reliable Inference Can Be Surprisingly Expensive* 14:03 - The Interviews Are Influenced Heavily By Context* 19:56 - Others Don’t Understand And Think This Is All Deeply SillyThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/anthropic-commits-to-model-weight?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for OpenAI: The Battle of the Board: Ilya’s Testimony* 00:00 - Introduction* 01:06 - This Really Was Primarily A Lying And Management Problem* 03:25 - Ilya Tells Us How It Went Down And Why He Tried To Do It* 05:36 - If You Come At The King* 06:52 - Enter The Scapegoats* 07:37 - And In SummaryThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/openai-the-battle-of-the-board-ilyas?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for OpenAI Moves To Complete Potentially The Largest Theft In Human History.* 00:00 - Introduction* 01:40 - OpenAI Calls It Completing Their Recapitalization* 03:12 - How Much Was Stolen?* 07:23 - The Nonprofit Still Has Lots of Equity After The Theft* 11:06 - The Theft Was Unnecessary For Further Fundraising* 12:10 - How Much Control Will The Nonprofit Retain?* 24:22 - Will These Control Rights Survive And Do Anything?* 27:26 - What About OpenAI’s Deal With Microsoft?* 32:39 - What Will OpenAI’s Nonprofit Do Now?* 38:21 - Is The Deal Done?The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/openai-moves-to-complete-potentially?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for AI #140: Trying To Hold The Line. The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/ai-140-trying-to-hold-the-line?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for Please Do Not Sell B30A Chips to China. The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/please-do-not-sell-b30a-chips-to?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for AI Craziness Mitigation Efforts.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/ai-craziness-mitigation-efforts?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for Asking (Some Of) The Right Questions.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/asking-some-of-the-right-questions?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for New Statement Calls For Not Building Superintelligence For Now.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/new-statement-calls-for-not-building?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for AI #139: The Overreach Machines.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/ai-139-the-overreach-machines?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for Cloud Compute Atlas: The OpenAI Browser.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/cloud-compute-atlas-the-openai-browser?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for On Dwarkesh Patel’s Podcast With Andrej Karpathy. The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/on-dwarkesh-patels-podcast-with-andrej?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble. The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

Podcast episode for AI #138 Part 2: Watch Out For Documents. The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/ai-138-part-2-watch-out-for-documents?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe