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Football Between The Lines. Another podcast about the beautiful game. Brought to you by Dan Cook of the infamous HLTCO twitter account, and Flav Batemen of The Fighting Cock podcast and James and Flav for Now... Football Between The Lines is a twice weekly podcast, blending well-rounded football opinion with emotional and somewhat reactionary punchiness.
The well rounded balanced opinion versus the emotional somewhat reactionary opinion. You don’t need another football podcast in your life, but you should listen to Football Between The Lines anyway.
Twice weekly reaction podcast to biggest talking points that week through the season - and if something big breaks, we’ll be all over it as well.
Dan is a renowned broadcaster, and the owner of one of football’s most well known twitter accounts, HLTCO. Stan Collymore still hates his guts.
Flav is known mostly for presenting the best Spurs podcast out there.... The Fighting Cock.
Football Between The Lines will be out every Tuesday and Friday… but make sure you subscribe and auto download so you don’t miss an episode!
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We’ve had a week of it. Villa fans came for us in numbers after The Overlap dragged up an old Big Six debate clip, so naturally we’ve now got a lifelong vendetta. Then we spiral into the proper stuff: why VAR has killed goal celebrations, why five minute offside checks are a disgrace, and whether football was better when you just glanced at the lino and went mad. There’s Spurs misery, West Ham dread, protest chat, Gallagher being “a terrier”, a quick detour into Chelsea, and a bumper comments section featuring the Raggett brothers, scrap invitations, and the legendary Sandwich Video.
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In this episode we confirm Dan’s okay after a short break, then dive straight into Crystal Palace’s humiliating FA Cup exit and why it may be the worst performance in the club’s modern history. From there we broaden the conversation to Tottenham, Chelsea and beyond, asking who really carries responsibility in modern football: the head coach on the touchline or the directors and ownership behind the scenes. We discuss Thomas Frank’s situation at Spurs, Oliver Glasner’s uncertain future at Palace, Chelsea’s new manager and the pressures of leading elite players in the social media era. Plus listener questions, FA Cup fallout, and the strange reality of supporting football clubs that always seem to find new ways to test you.
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This one starts with numbness and ends somewhere between catharsis and chaos. We talk about the unspoken contract you sign with your football club for life, why some fans walk away and why most of us never really can. Spurs being a mess, Palace perspective, watching football out of habit rather than hope, and how results hit differently when it’s also your job. There’s burnout, sleep deprivation, social media fatigue, managers losing the room, The Panenka being a crime against football, and why talking it all through with your mates might be the only thing that keeps you sane.
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We start with Spurs and quickly ask a bigger question. When football gets this dull, what are fans meant to cling to? We talk Thomas Frank, clean sheets that feel joyless, away ends singing old songs to stay sane, and whether pragmatism has gone too far. From Spurs to Chelsea’s chaos,
Liam Rosenior rumours, Brennan Johnson, Sunderland’s madness and why xG both explains everything and nothing, this one turns into a proper chat about what football is meant to give us, and why so often it doesn’t.
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We’re back after Christmas and Dan’s had the full festive experience: Palace losing, kids being sick everywhere, and the dreaded norovirus tidal wave arriving mid Christmas dinner. Lovely stuff. Then we get into a game of football that neither of us ever wants to think about again, VAR and the weird delayed offside stuff, and why Thomas Frank still isn’t winning Spurs fans over. After that it’s Brennan Johnson to Palace rumours, Calvert-Lewin suddenly turning into a six-yard assassin, Villa refusing to go away, and a proper listener message about teaching your kids what supporting Palace actually means.
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We try to do the grown-up referee chat and still end up saying John Brooks had an absolute mare, even while admitting Spurs deserved the two reds. Then we get into why this Premier League season feels properly weird, why Villa have to be taken seriously in the title race, and why West Ham look like they’re sleepwalking into a relegation scrap. There’s also a bit on Dele Alli and how quickly it can all unravel, plus a proper chat about matchgoing fans versus global fans and why it does not have to be one or the other. We round it off with festive comments, Celtic’s magnet-gate, and Dan taking his six-year-old to Leeds away for a 4-1, which is either elite parenting or a safeguarding issue.
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We’ve got the most chaotic story of the year from AFCON as Cameroon somehow end up with two managers and two squads, with Samuel Eto’o doing Samuel Eto’o things. Then we get into Celtic’s absolute meltdown, the Venn diagram tweet drama, and Dundee United piling in with elite trolling. From there it’s fixture congestion, the Club World Cup injury bill, and why football and politics can’t be separated no matter how much we’d like them to be. Plus: a Christmas campaign that actually matters, a wholesome tech story from Selhurst, and we launch the movement the world needs… #GiveTheKidsAJacket.
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We’re back and Dan’s fresh off Dublin with approximately 45 pints of Guinness in his system, so naturally we start with European away days and end up in some properly dark places. We talk Arsenal grinding past Wolves, City doing City things, the Carragher vs Rio nonsense, and the weird Salah situation. Then we get into the grim bit: Spurs getting bullied again, why the midfield feels so soft, and why the fanbase is already swinging hard against Thomas Frank (the poll numbers are mad). We also hit Sunderland finally doing Newcastle, proper end-game shithousery, and a big question: do Spurs fans overrate the squad and who actually gets into a top six side.
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In this one we sit down with Rory Jennings to get properly stuck into the Salah saga, the idea of legacy, and how tribal we all get when footballers cross the line. We talk Europa away days and why Prague might actually be heaven, give Everton the respect they’ve earned, and wonder what on earth Chelsea are. There’s a bit on Wolves and Derby’s infamous 11 points, a detour into ultras physically removing managers, and the usual listener chaos.
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In this one we get stuck into the Salah vs Slot saga, Carragher’s eight-minute monologue and whether a player can ever be bigger than Liverpool. We talk about the racism accusations aimed at Carragher, Salah’s legacy and why we think he has probably kicked his last ball for the club. Then we move on to Villa’s title credentials, Palace quietly cooking in the league and Wolves looking doomed, before finishing with your questions on fandom, the “big six,” VAR, co-comms, and a bit of chat about coconut mushrooms, Guinness and Palace’s Conference League adventure.
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We get stuck into a mad midweek of Premier League football: Fulham nearly coming back from 5–1 down, Romero’s scissor kick at Newcastle, Villa turning it round at Brighton, Chelsea losing at Elland Road and Haaland hitting 100 goals. Then we zoom out into the “Other 14” conversation, TV bias toward the Sky Six, Wolves sinking, Villa flying and what ownership and recruitment really do to clubs. Listener questions take us into Spurs fans vs players, the 3pm blackout, glory hunters, VAR and AI, worst away ends, early Twitter abuse and the Cantona chants, Paul Nixon and football’s selective memory.
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In this one we properly spiral about hating football, from Spurs fans booing Vicario and life under Thomas Frank to Glasner calling out the Palace board and what European football actually does to a thin squad. We chat Brentford and Brighton’s structure, Villa and Emery proving people wrong, and why big club expectations kill “performance over results” chat. There is agg everywhere, from Saka getting screamed at to Ajax ultras with rocket launchers, plus a bit on refs mic’d up, Andy Carroll’s Dagenham hat trick, away day chaos and why having a birthday in early January is a scam.
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This week we roped in Ben Bowman while Dan swans off to Strasbourg, and started with the obvious question, what is actually happening at Liverpool. We go through Arne Slot’s brutal run, Curtis Jones’ honesty, the Isak signing, the lack of a centre half and whether the players have stopped running for the manager. From there we get into Cucurella putting Yamal “in his pocket”, what Sanchez’s comments say about the level of the Premier League, and why Arsenal are scaring the life out of us in both the league and Europe. There is Spurs chat too, from PSG away and Sarr’s minutes to the “top six” debate, Marco Silva, the infamous North London derby box, and a few listener questions to finish.
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1In this one we try to process a pretty grim week: Spurs getting slapped in the derby , Arsenal looking like they might actually walk the league and Chelsea quietly sneaking into the title chat. We get into Liverpool’s weird collapse, Forest’s revival under Dyche, why Eze clearly made the right call, and why long ball merchants are suddenly fashionable again. There is a mini Danny Baker rant, Steve Nash randomly popping into the DMs, a bit of Radiohead love, and a short Bazball therapy session with the Aussies giving it to us in the comments. As ever, we read out your messages, take our medicine and try not to completely lose it.
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In this one we try to talk ourselves into some kind of calm before the North London derby, chat about Spurs away form under Thomas Frank and how Arsenal have turned into a machine. We get carried away with Scotland’s insane win over Denmark, McTominay’s overhead and Kenny McLean’s halfway line madness, plus Ireland’s and Wales’ big nights and Curacao’s ridiculous World Cup story with Dick Advocaat. Then we get into refs, Clattenburg and Mike Dean, the weird politics of officiating, and finish on listener questions about Palace, banana skin fixtures and why fans just know when a game is going to go wrong.
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In this one we start with the calm of the international break and end up in total Irish bedlam, talking Troy Parrott’s last minute winner, what following your country actually feels like, and why football’s best moments are pure chaos rather than controlled perfection. We get into Tuchel vs Bellingham and how the media manufactures beef, John Terry moaning about low blocks, Guardiola’s influence on a more sterile Premier League, Haaland and Kane chasing absurd international records, the never-ending ref discourse and PSR gripes, plus a big plug for the White Teeth Chronicles and some brilliant listener stories and questions.
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England chat, WhatsApp group politics and the way Sky and others keep dumbing football talk down into shouty clips. We get into Ivan Toney’s Saudi wages and whether he solves Spurs’ problems, the Premier League’s proposed spending anchor and what it means for soft power clubs and everyone else. There is time for Liverpool writing to PGMOL, fan entitlement, away ticket loyalty schemes, Palace ultras, the Ballers League and some of the very worst fan takes we have heard in years.
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We sat down with Tom from Back of the Net to talk Iraola’s brave style, smart recruitment, and how Bournemouth keep improving after losing a whole back line. We get into Bill Foley’s vision, the stadium expansion, Eddie Howe’s lasting pull, Alex Scott’s England call up, and whether the Cherries can turn this season into a first taste of Europe.
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We dive into City’s demolition of Liverpool, the Van Dijk disallowed goal, and Doku’s star turn. Arsenal drop points at Sunderland, the long throw ad board saga gets an airing, and we argue patience with managers after Slot’s week. Rob Edwards swaps Boro for Wolves, Spurs stay gloriously unpredictable, Palace-Brighton brings Tyreek Mitchell flowers, and we trade our best-ever goals seen live.
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We get stuck into a wild week of goals from Van de Ven, Son, Dan Burn and Thierry Small. We talk Coventry’s stadium singalong, why North London Forever sets us off, and the messy line between football and politics. There is a big chat on John Texter and Wednesday, Palace memories from administration, and the remarkable story of Felix joining Como as a scout at 20. We finish with listeners’ questions on concussions, disastrous signings, and whether being a “big club” even matters.
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