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The INDEED Evaluation Podcast interviews leading practitioners, experts, policy makers, researchers and evaluators working in the fields of evidence-based evaluation, policy and practice in preventing and countering violent extremism and de-radicalisation. The podcast of the INDEED Project – www.indeedproject.eu – the podcast is made possible due to the generous funding of the European Commission.
The INDEED Projects has received funding by the European Union’s Horizon 2020 research and innovation programme H2020-SU-SEC-2020 under grant agreement no 101021701.
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In this episode Kai Brand-Jacobsen sits down with Dr. Lena Malkki, a leading expert in the field of Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) and de-radicalisation. Together, they dive deep into the critical role of collaboration in these areas, highlighting how involving evaluators early in the process can bridge the gap between on-the-ground realities and research insights, leading to more effective, evidence-based outcomes. Dr. Malkki shares her insights on the unique advantages ...
In this episode, we dive into the fascinating research of Lotta Ralph, a doctoral candidate at the Peace Research Institute in Frankfurt, who is exploring the evaluation structures and capacities in preventing and countering violent extremism (PCVE) across Europe. Lotta shares insights from her comprehensive study spanning 21 European countries, highlighting how political decision-makers, civil society organizations, and researchers interact to produce and utilize high-quality, evidence-based...
In this episode, we are joined by Kamala Chandrakirana, a distinguished human rights activist with extensive experience in gender equality and social justice. Kamala Chandrakirana discussed the inadequacies and biases prevalent in traditional monitoring and evaluation (M&E) practices, often led by so-called experts who lack contextual understanding. These evaluations typically reflect the prejudices and perceptions of the evaluators, failing to provide genuine insights or foster meaningfu...
In this episode we meet Deepthy Menon from Urgent Action Fund Asia and the Pacific, where she leads the Shifting Narratives and organisational learning initiatives. Deepthy brings a fresh perspective on reimagining feminist evaluation and reshaping power dynamics in the development sector. Deepthy delves into the core challenges and opportunities in transforming traditional evaluation methods. She argues that traditional evaluations, often imposed by donors, can feel abusive and judgme...
In this interview, Peter Muyshondt, Chief of Police in Rupel, Belgium, sheds light on the evaluation needs within the Belgian police force, particularly regarding their approach to radicalization prevention and intervention. Belgium's police system operates at both local and federal levels, with local police focusing on prevention and federal counterparts on repressive measures, all under a coordinated mechanism chaired by local mayors. Despite this structure, a critical challenge identified ...
In this Knowledge Series interview, Fenna Keijzer and Maarten van de Donk discuss how organizations can effectively review their processes, learn from evaluations, and avoid the phenomenon known as "Evaluation Panic." Keijzer and van de Donk, both senior advisers at RadarAdvies, share insights from their work with "Exit" programs designed to help individuals disengage from extremist groups. They emphasize the importance of evaluations—particularly peer and self-reviews—as tools to demonstrate...
1In this Knowledge Series interview, we delve into the expertise of Gazbiah SANS, Director of PCVE work, renowned for her extensive background in gender inclusion and mainstreaming within fragile and conflict-affected contexts. With over 15 years of experience, Gazbiah has notably collaborated with USAID on addressing Boko Haram issues in Cameroon and contributed to initiatives in Afghanistan with the World Bank. Currently, she serves on the internal review panel of the Global Community Engag...
Kai Brand-Jacobsen, President of the Romanian Peace Institute (PATRIR) and Director of the Department of Peace Operations (DPO), shares his insights on designing evidence-based initiatives in the peacebuilding and conflict resolution realm. With over 25 years of experience, Brand-Jacobsen emphasizes the importance of grounding initiatives in robust evidence, engaging all relevant stakeholders, and maintaining honesty and realism to achieve meaningful impact. He addresses common misconceptions...
In an insightful interview, Kai Brand-Jacobsen, President of the Romanian Peace Institute and a seasoned expert in peacebuilding, emphasizes the critical need for evidence-based evaluation in the fields of Preventing/Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) and de-radicalization. With over 25 years of experience, Brand-Jacobsen discusses the evolving role of evaluation from merely a donor-imposed requirement to a vital tool for practitioners to understand and enhance their strategies. He highligh...
In the realm of Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE), rigorous evaluation practices play a pivotal role in shaping effective strategies. Sophie Ebbecke, a Research Associate at the Global Public Policy Institute in Berlin, provides insights into the PrEval Initiative, focusing on advancing evaluation methodologies within P/CVE, civic education, and democracy promotion. Through international expert surveys spanning 14 countries, the initiative examines diverse perspectives on ev...
The interview focuses on the challenges and potential improvements in policy evaluation, particularly in the realm of preventing and countering violent extremism (P/CVE) and de-radicalization (DeRad). Featuring Rut Bermejo Casado, an associate professor at University Rey Juan Carlos in Madrid, the discussion delves into the crucial role of policy evaluation as the final stage of the policy cycle. Bermejo Casado, an expert in politics and public policies, highlights the necessity of var...
In this episode, Norbert Leonhardmair, a researcher and project manager at the Vienna Centre for Social Security (VICESSE), discusses the critical role of gender, ethics, and societal aspects in the evaluation of preventing and countering violent extremism (P/CVE) initiatives. The INDEED Project utilizes the Gender, Ethical, Legal, and Societal Aspects (GELSA) framework, inspired by the UN Human Rights Approach, to ensure that de-radicalization efforts are both theoretically and practically s...
In this Knowledge Series interview, Aileen Van Leewen, an M&E Officer at the International Centre for Counterterrorism (ICCT), introduces the fundamentals of Monitoring and Evaluation (M&E) within the Counterterrorism and Preventing/Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) fields. She highlights the importance of building a culture of evaluation to gain insights, demonstrate effectiveness, ensure accountability, and empower stakeholders. Addressing common challenges and misconceptio...
In this Knowledge Series Interview, Michael Q. Patton, a trailblazer in the evaluation field and Founder and CEO of Utilization-Focused Evaluation, discusses the critical importance of interpretive capacity over mere data accuracy. With over five decades of experience and several influential books to his name, Patton emphasizes that the ability to interpret environmental contexts is more crucial than just having accurate knowledge. He argues that high-performing organizations excel due to the...
In this episode, Stephan Klose, a Postdoctoral Researcher at the Brussels School of Governance, provided valuable insights into Evidence-Based Evaluation (EBE) within the fields of Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) and de-radicalization. With extensive academic background including a PhD from VUB and an MA from Lund University, Klose has dedicated the past two years to studying EBE policies and practices. The interview delved into the nuanced understanding and implications ...
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