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Welcome to PassivePockets: The Passive Real Estate Investing Show presented by Equity Trust– your go-to podcast for building and protecting wealth through smart, passive real estate investments. Hosted by Jim Pfeifer, this podcast is designed for investors who want to grow without the grind. Each episode features expert interviews with seasoned LPs (Limited Partners) and GPs (General Partners) who share their insights, experiences, and practical advice.
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Hotels for passive investors: what actually matters and how it’s different from multifamily. Chris Lopez digs in with Jay Desai and Suraj Reddy on the underwriting stack (ADR, occupancy, RevPAR and RevPAR penetration), why brand fit and comp sets (STAR reports) drive the thesis, and how operations (daily pricing, sales/RFPs, third-party management aligned on expenses) move the needle. They walk through break-even occupancy math (often far lower than MF), margins, bonus depreciation via FF&E/capex, fixed-rate/community-bank capital stacks, and their “no capital calls” policy. Includes a Columbus case study and the macro outlook across business/leisure/extended-stay demand—and what Airbnbs really compete for.
Key Takeaways
Hotels 101: ADR × occupancy = RevPAR; low RevPAR penetration in a strong comp set = value-add target
Break-even is different: hotels can pencil at ~35–60% occupancy vs. ~70–75% in multifamily
Operations > brand alone: daily revenue management, sales/RFPs, and expense discipline drive NOI
STAR reports: how pros build comp sets and gauge RevPAR share before/after capex
Depreciation edge: large year-one bonus depreciation from FF&E and renovations (consult your CPA)
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk. Nothing here is investment, tax, legal, or financial advice; consult qualified professionals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may include paid advertisements or promotional materials for sponsors, funds, or offerings and should not be interpreted as a recommendation or endorsement by PassivePockets, LLC or affiliates. Conduct your own due diligence and consider your financial situation before engaging with any advertised products or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for any actions taken based on the information presented.
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It’s our “2026 State of PassivePockets.” Chris Lopez (now lead host, alongside co-hosts Jim Pfeifer and Paul Shannon) shares highlights from the 2025 member survey (96% accredited; 91% already LPs), explains why our Net Promoter Score jumped from -4 (2024) to 44 (2025), and unveils three big initiatives for 2026: (1) community-driven resources that go deep on due diligence—starting with debt funds; (2) using the community’s pooled volume to negotiate better investor terms; and (3) doubling down on what’s working—Sponsor Ratings & Reviews, LP Deal Reviews, the podcast, and a more active private forum. You’ll also hear what members fear most (losing capital), what they want most (steady cash flow), and which asset classes they’re targeting (multifamily and debt tied for #1).
Key Takeaways
Who we are: 96% accredited; 91% already in syndications/funds
NPS turnaround: from -4 (’24) ➜ 44 (’25); top positives—education, trust, community
Biggest pain points: pricing clarity, forum engagement, and site navigation- on our roadmap
What members fear most: capital loss (72%); what they want most: steady cash flow (~30%)
2026 focus #1: Debt investing: series of pods, forums, expert panels, and a living DD checklist
2026 focus #2: Better terms: leverage pooled community capital for lower mins / improved share classes
2026 focus #3: Do more of what works: more Sponsor Ratings & Reviews + LP Deal Reviews + member spotlights
Asset allocation pulse: multifamily & debt tied for top interest; industrial, MHP, self-storage next
Host update: Chris Lopez assumes lead-host role; Jim passes the torch and remains co-host with Paul
Get involved: post sponsor reviews, join the forum threads, and help shape the checklists we’ll all use
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Chris Lopez, Jim Pfeifer, and Paul Shannon run a year-end Pulse Check on what worked in 2025, what did not, and where they are deploying capital in 2026. The hosts compare notes on gold and silver, why hard assets helped, and why many expected more multifamily distress than actually appeared. They dig into operator risk, liquidity as an edge, and the niches they like now, from B-class value add with day one cash flow to flex industrial and neighborhood retail. They also cover contrarian views on office and coastal markets, the interest rate outlook and fixed versus floating debt, non-performing loan plays in multifamily, and fresh survey data on where passive LPs plan to invest this year.
Key Takeaways
2025 recap: hard assets helped. Gold and silver hedged uncertainty while real estate rewarded disciplined underwriting
Fewer fire sales than expected: multifamily distress was patchy and operator specific rather than a broad wave
Liquidity matters: dry powder, lines of credit, and redeemable debt funds enable fast moves on real opportunities
2026 opportunities: multifamily with positive leverage, flex industrial for small business users, and durable neighborhood retail tenants
Class focus: lean toward higher quality assets and cleaner capex profiles when the price is right
Debt positioning: many LPs favor income and down-stack protection; consider fixed rate for sleep-at-night, float selectively if thesis supports it
NPL angle: buying notes on discounted basis can create multiple paths to value if you underwrite conservatively
Market views: watch select coastal recoveries and Midwest affordability tailwinds; expect fewer easy wins and more operator-driven value
Community pulse: survey shows strong 2026 appetite for multifamily and debt, with investors sizing checks meaningfully higher than last year
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Chris Lopez welcomes Seattle-based investor/author Leka Devatha to unpack how she built from flips to a diversified active/passive portfolio—plus what’s actually working in a high-cost, tenant-friendly market. Leka breaks down her first LP deal (why operator selection and interest-rate caps mattered), a 12-unit Seattle value-add that tripled gross rents, and the creative lending + multi-exit playbook behind her new book, Return on Real Estate. She shares a tactical framework for sourcing, underwriting, and operating in micro-markets—and how middle-housing zoning (ADUs, townhomes, duplexes) is shaping her 2026 pipeline.
Key Takeaways
Operator first: In 2021–22 vintage deals, disciplined sponsors with interest-rate caps, tight PM, and no fee-grab mentality have fared best.
Value-add or bust (in HCOL markets): Buy below market due to deferred maintenance; renovate only what’s required to hit rent and NOI targets.
Operations edge: Strict tenant standards, vigilant expense control, and local PM who understands tenant-friendly statutes are non-negotiable.
Creative capital stack: Build a lender bench (conventional, DSCR, hard money) and use tools like short-term cash-out refis with no prepay to bridge seasonality.
Micro-market focus: Know the streets, views, and comps; Seattle’s middle-housing rules unlock ADUs/townhomes/duplexes on former SF lots.
Stack exits: Example—flip the front house, build/condo-map a DADU, keep as a long-term rental, refi to pull cash while holding quality dirt.
Active → Passive: If you’re newer, learn by placing small LP checks with proven, local operators before scaling your own projects.
Next 12–24 months: Fewer “easy” wins, but more mispriced opportunities for operators who can create value and manage tightly.
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
This Episode
Chris Lopez and Jim Pfeifer sit down with Scott Trench for a frank 2025 recap and a practical 2026 game plan. Scott reviews what he got right (rates staying sticky, supply-driven rent trends) and where the surprises showed up (gold strength, stock market resilience), then opens his playbook: selling a chunk of stocks, buying paid-off 2–4 unit Denver rentals, and allocating a small slice of retirement capital to private credit via a solo 401(k). Looking ahead, Scott focuses on multifamily supply tapering, demand uncertainty, and the 10-year vs. Fed funds dynamic. He also lays out a contrarian Class A office thesis (all equity, patient lease-up, operator quality over leverage) and shares how LPs might think about accessing similar opportunities.
Key Takeaways
Interest rates: policy cuts may not translate to lower mortgages if the 10-year stays elevated
Supply and rents: 2026 likely absorbs the 2024–2025 wave, with rent strength returning market by market
Portfolio moves: swapped high-multiple equities for paid-off small multifamily; reserved retirement dollars for simple-yield private credit
Risk posture: early-career aggression → mid-career capital protection; leverage optionality comes later
Office angle: best-in-market, newer assets with patient, all-equity business plans may offer asymmetric upside
LP lens: prioritize operator track records in one geography, modest leverage, and realistic lease-up/tenant improvement budgets
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Chris Lopez is joined by Equity Trust’s John Bowens to close out 2025 and prep smart moves for 2026 using self-directed retirement accounts. John walks through contribution and conversion timelines for IRAs, Roth IRAs, HSAs, and Solo 401(k)s, explains the seven-day payroll rule for S- and C-corps, and shares practical strategies like spousal IRAs, backdoor Roths, staged Roth conversions over two tax years, and maximizing early-year compounding. The conversation also covers 2026 limit increases, Solo 401(k) employer vs employee buckets, and the Secure Act 2.0 tax credit for new plans.
Key Takeaways
Roth conversions must post by Dec 31 for the current tax year
Previous-year IRA and HSA contributions allowed until Apr 15 if not on extension
Solo 401(k) employee deferrals for S- and C-corps must be deposited within seven days of payroll
Sole proprietors can set up and fund a Solo 401(k) for the prior year by Apr 15
Use spousal IRAs and backdoor Roths to maximize annual limits
Stage conversions across two years to manage tax brackets while starting compounding sooner
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Chris Lopez welcomes Dr. Alex Schloe and Charlie Cameron to demystify residential assisted living. Alex lays out the macro drivers behind the silver tsunami and why small, boutique homes can deliver better care and stronger cash flow. Charlie breaks down the models from LP to lease-to-operator to full operations and development, including typical home specs, licensing basics, private pay vs Medicaid, and realistic risk controls. The trio covers returns, staffing, marketing, and the due diligence questions LPs should ask before backing an operator or sponsor.
Key Takeaways
What residential assisted living is and how it differs from big facilities
Demographics and demand: boomers aging into care, large bed shortage, 10k Americans turning 80 daily
Investment models: LP, lease-to-operator, own-and-operate, and phased development of 10 to 16 bed homes
Typical home criteria: single story preferred, 300 sq ft per resident, abundant beds and baths, sprinklers, roll-in showers
Returns and timelines: value-add and development deals targeting mid 20s IRR ranges with ramp-up occupancy considerations
Risk management: operator vetting, staffing and marketing plans, licensing and insurance, location near labor and hospitals, contingency reserves
LP due diligence: private pay focus, sponsor pipeline for operators, comps via secret shopping and NIC data, personal guarantees and SBA scrutiny
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Jim Pfeifer and Chris Lopez sit down with investor and author J Scott to recap 2025 and map out what LPs should be watching in 2026. J shares where the year defied expectations (supply, rates, and “real” distress), how he’s positioning for a higher-for-longer rate regime, and the simple filters he’s using to decide between equity and credit today. The conversation covers underwriting discipline, liquidity planning, and why needs-based real estate and inefficient small-multifamily niches may offer the best risk-adjusted plays right now—if you partner with true specialists.
Key Takeaways
2025 reality check: distress was uneven and narrower than headlines; construction delays kept deliveries elevated longer than expected
Rates vs. cap rates: in higher-for-longer, appreciation must come from income growth and operational upside—not cap rate fantasy
Allocation: build durable cash flow with selective debt strategies while reserving dry powder for high-conviction equity dislocations
LP playbook: diversify by sponsor and strategy, avoid tax-driven decisions, and stress test for flat/negative rent growth and refi risk
Where to hunt: needs-based real estate (e.g., senior/medical/data) and imperfect small-multifamily markets where operator edge matters
Operator diligence: prioritize track record, reporting, and downside plans; verify fee alignment and who truly controls execution
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Chris Lopez and Paul Shannon welcome investor and author Brian Burke to look back at 2025 and set the table for 2026. Brian recaps his “end the dive in 25” thesis, explains why his pivot to senior housing has outperformed, and shares what actually surprised him this year. The group digs into supply, sentiment, and rates, plus the difference between perfect and imperfect markets and why small multifamily and true needs-based real estate may offer the best risk-adjusted plays right now.
Key Takeaways
2025 recap: senior housing led commercial performance while multifamily price declines slowed but did not fully reverse
Surprise of the year: new construction deliveries in multifamily stayed elevated longer than expected, keeping pressure on rents and occupancy
Portfolio moves: Brian co-invested in his senior housing fund, added selectively to individual stocks on pullbacks, explored biotech, and is eyeing Bitcoin on deeper dips
2026 watchlist: investor sentiment in multifamily, supply tapering, and the rate story split between short-term SOFR and the stubborn 10-year
Strategy notes: in a higher-for-longer world, appreciation must come from income growth more than cap rate compression
For LPs: prioritize needs-based real estate like senior housing, medical office, and data centers; consider contrarian but expert-led office plays and inefficient small-multifamily opportunities
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
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This Episode
It’s the November PassivePockets Pulse Check. Jim Pfeifer, Paul Shannon, and Chris Lopez share what’s new in their portfolios, the real impact of the Fed’s second rate cut, the tool you should use this month (sponsor reviews—now updatable), and how they’re setting concrete goals for 2026. Plus: a big announcement: PassivePockets Summit is in Denver, April 30 (arrival) - May 2. Vote on sessions and networking ideas via the survey in the link above.
Key Takeaways
Portfolio check: capital back from an Aspen Funds industrial deal (tribe structure), 30% return of capital from a Threefold sale, and an unfortunate likely loss tied to the DJE/Ascent situation, why operator integrity and transparency matter
Real deals in motion: Paul’s Indiana acquisition fully subscribed (rate locked), and an Evansville 56-unit true-distress LOI/PSA walkthrough (what those terms mean and why the team thinks it’s a fast operational turn)
Rates: two cuts this fall (~50 bps total) boosted sentiment but barely moved longer-term agency debt; example: 7-yr Treasury + spread shifted only ~6 bps between application and lock
Outlook: expect a trickle, not a tsunami, of distress into 2026 as “extend & pretend” maturities roll; bid/ask is narrowing, which may push lenders to act
Tools & goals: update your Sponsor Reviews (and why “update” notes help the community); Chris is rebalancing toward private credit and Roth-powered compounding, Jim is doubling down on trusted operators and liquidity discipline, and Paul is rotating from cash/metals into equity while keeping a family financial “in case of emergency” plan current
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Chris Lopez and Paul Shannon sit down with investor and educator Julie Holly for a candid conversation about wins, losses, and leadership as an LP and GP. Julie traces her path from house hacking to syndications, shares the “receive & release” mindset she uses to process setbacks, and explains what changed in her underwriting and operator vetting after a tough year, including one deal where mismanagement led to a total loss. They cover how LPs should share accountability, the exact questions to ask sponsors (who underwrites, how they stress-test, and how they communicate), and why Julie paused new offerings to focus on stewardship and transparency.
Key Takeaways
Start as an LP to learn the experience end-to-end; early distributions can feel great, but plans must survive rate, insurance, and market shifts
“Receive & release”: make space to process losses, own your part, then offload what isn’t yours so you can lead and decide clearly
Trust and verify: dig into vacancy, taxes, insurance, payroll, and who actually underwrites (in-house vs. outsourced/AI); stress-test more than one way
Accountability is shared: GPs must report clearly and often; LPs must understand their risk profile, read docs, and avoid “write first, learn later” FOMO
Choose relationships, not just returns: invest with people who answer candidly, welcome hard questions, and are reachable when things get bumpy
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
In this exclusive webinar release, Paul Shannon moderates a market check with brokers Beau Beery, Reid Bennett, and Jakob Andersen. The panel covers where multifamily deals are actually clearing in late 2025, why the bid ask gap is narrowing, and how underwriting has shifted from headline cap rates to year one cash on cash, DCR, and debt yield. They compare Sunbelt supply waves to steadier Midwest fundamentals, walk through valuation reality checks sellers must face, and explain why most 2026 activity will be motivated sales and selective distress rather than a fire sale. The group also digs into operational costs, staffing shortages, financing paths into 2026, and what LPs should demand from GPs.
Key Takeaways
Bid ask is closing as loan maturities force decisions and rate volatility calms enough for buyers to plan
Underwrite to cash on cash, DCR, debt yield first and sanity check taxes, insurance, payroll, and true vacancy before quoting a cap rate
Supply matters more at scale: heavy Sunbelt deliveries pressure B assets while Midwest occupancy stays supported by limited new B stock and tight single family inventory
Financing mix for 2026 will be agency for stabilized and selective bridge for assets that cannot qualify, with realistic reserves and timelines
Expect more transactions and some distress in 2026, but not a broad capitulation; LPs should vet operators with downturn experience and transparent decision trees on sell, refi, or hold
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Dave Meyer joins Chris Lopez and Jim Pfeifer to unpack the shift from hands-on house hacking in Denver to diversified passive investing. Dave walks through selling select rentals, using a Delaware Statutory Trust for a 1031, and why he caps real estate time at 20 hours a month. He explains dollar cost averaging into syndications for liquidity management, why he still concentrates on multifamily he understands, and how he hedges with fixed-rate debt, cash, and some gold. The crew digs into operator selection, supply awareness, return-to-office tailwinds in core tech markets like Seattle, and the trap of chasing door count instead of clear goals.
Key Takeaways
Control, liquidity, taxes: define your time budget, ladder commitments, and decide when to pay tax versus use a DST
Dollar cost averaging works in private deals too: one allocation per year can smooth illiquidity and vintage risk
Invest in what you understand: pick operators first, then asset class, and underwrite local supply and rent comps
Hedge the cycle with structure: favor fixed-rate debt, bigger reserves, and realistic hold times over rosy exit timing
Strategy before scale: set goals for cash flow versus equity growth, then judge opportunities against those goals
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
The Passive Pockets Pulse Check returns with Chris Lopez, Jim Pfeifer, and Paul Shannon. They break down what they bought and what they skipped, how they are reallocating between equity and debt, and the checks they run before wiring capital. Jim shares two new allocations in healthcare and coffee after negotiating a lower minimum for the community and explains invoking the Shirky rule to avoid doubling up with a new operator too quickly. Paul outlines a simple Indiana cash flow deal, a 22-unit JV turnaround, and an LP win with a partial disposition. Chris walks through a shift toward debt funds, a strong payout month, and a cautionary development story that highlights why transparency, lender diligence, and sponsor communication matter. The trio then uses the PassivePockets Deal Analyzer to spot red flags and assess IRR partitioning before deconstructing a friends and family hotel conversion with fee bloat, phantom equity, and misaligned waterfalls so you know when to pass fast.
Key Takeaways
Use investing clubs to test new managers or asset classes and always ask about minimums
Rebalance deliberately toward a mix of equity and debt while accounting for ordinary income taxes on debt yields outside retirement accounts
Multifamily is stabilizing in select markets, but underwrite with longer debt terms, larger reserves, and realistic rent and occupancy assumptions
Watch for fee-heavy structures, annual-only distributions, deferred development fees counted as equity, and dual waterfalls that dilute LP returns
The Deal Analyzer surfaces out-of-range assumptions and IRR partitioning shows how much return comes from operations versus exit
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Host Paul Shannon sits down with Gino (of Jake & Gino) to trace the path from family pizza shop to operating ~1,900 units with no outside equity. Gino breaks down why they paused syndications after 2019, how “PPU—profit per unit” drives their buy/hold decisions, and the exact LP diligence framework he wishes he’d had before losing money as a passive. They dig into today’s tighter credit, catching-a-falling-knife rent/occupancy dynamics, and why longer debt runways and operator fit matter more than ever.
Key Takeaways:
The LP Framework: Jockey (sponsor) → Saddle (alignment of interests) → Horse (deal: buy right, manage right, finance right)
Why they exited syndications: control, long-hold strategy, and avoiding the “feed the beast” pressure—investor expectations make investors your de facto bosses
Diligence like a pro: visit the asset, run the PPM through AI, then spend an hour with a securities attorney before wiring a dime
Operate for durability: target $200–$400 PPU, prefer vertical integration, and secure ≥5-year debt to bridge cycles
Match strategy to you: know your relationship with money, stagger commitments (the “conveyor belt”), and choose sponsors aligned with long-term holds if that’s your goal
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Remember that past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any of the advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Paul Shannon sits down with lender-turned-operator Ryan Duff to unpack how lenders really size risk and how LPs can use the same lens. Ryan financed ~$4B+ across cycles before launching Seaport, and he explains why trailing 3–6 month economic occupancy (physical vacancy + concessions + loss-to-lease) tells you more than any glossy OM. Join us to dive into debt yield, DSCR reality vs. pitch decks, the broker-driven “falsified inputs” fiasco and subsequent lender cleanup, and why he prioritizes local, vertically integrated operators with disciplined leverage and cash buffers.
Key Takeaways:
Underwrite like a lender: focus on economic occupancy (vacancy, concessions, loss-to-lease), not just IRR/EM multiples
Expenses are mostly knowable; deals are won/lost on the top-line and honest reporting of rent integrity
Debt terms follow the inputs: DSCR, debt yield, and recent trailing performance drive survivability
Protect yourself: vet the GP first (local, cycled deals, vertical ops, conservative leverage, transparency)
Industry shift: tighter lender verification post-froth (less room for “massaged” rent rolls), more equity skin-in-the-game
Bridge debt isn’t evil, operator fit + execution speed must match the capital structure
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Remember that past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any of the advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Host Chris Lopez and Paul Shannon talks with securities attorney Mauricio Rauld about the compliance landmines that trip up syndicators and how LPs can protect themselves. Mauricio shares why he exited his law firm to focus on education and “in-between” guidance (before the PPM), what an SEC lawyer actually does, and the real differences between 506(b) and 506(c). They cover LP recourse (rescission), how to diligence sponsors and structures (co-GPs, capital raisers, funds-of-funds), why “investment clubs” aren’t a loophole, and where regulations may head next (accreditation changes, a possible finder’s rule).
Key Takeaways:
Compliance isn’t “just a PPM”: most mistakes happen pre-attorney (emails, websites, social posts)
506(b) vs 506(c): advertising and accreditation verification are the two big pivots
LP protection: if securities laws are violated, rescission can force capital + interest returned
Capital raising rules: no transaction-based comp, substantial duties, and primary role ≠ fundraising
Trends to watch: FoF adviser/Investment Company Act issues, “investment club” myths, broader accredited paths and a potential finder rule
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Remember that past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any of the advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Host Chris Lopez sits down with Peter, an anesthesiologist who became an LP and then a GP, to unpack the career jolt that pushed him into real estate and the systems he built to bring more transparency and advocacy to LPs through Ascent Equity Group. Peter shares his first $5k crowdfunding check (and that unforgettable $47 distribution), lessons from launching in the tough 2021 vintage, and how his team handled rate/insurance shocks, lender work-outs, and communication when things got bumpy. We also dive into why he’s been using preferred equity in today’s market—including a 12.5–13.5% monthly-pay deal that returned capital in ~12 months and where he’s hunting now (hospitality, selective retail, and medical office) with a likely recession window following the Fed’s pivot.
Key Takeaways:
From OR to LP to GP: how a broken partnership promise sparked a plan for autonomy and passive income
Preferred equity in practice: monthly pay, collateralized position, and why it’s a “right now” tool—not forever
2021 lessons: short-term debt + fast-rising rates/insurance = humility, capital infusions, and relentless communication
Macro setup: Fed pivot → typical recession lag (~10–11 months) → prepare capital/relationships for distressed opportunities
What’s next: multifamily fundamentals (supply pause, sticky demand), selective hospitality/retail, and a special eye on medical office
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Remember that past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any of the advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Chris Lopez is joined by co-hosts Jim Pfeifer and Paul Shannon for the September PassivePockets Pulse Check, our monthly roundup of what’s moving passive real estate, the shifts we’re making in our own portfolios, and what we expect next.
We unpack the Fed’s recent 25 bps cut (what actually changes for fixed vs. floating debt), why many LPs are rotating toward private credit, and the rules-of-thumb we’re using right now for debt funds, multifamily, and development. Paul opens the hood on a heavy value-add 22-unit (50% vacant) targeting an ~11% yield-on-cost in an ~8 cap market, while Jim and Chris break down current debt yields, LTV guardrails, and how to think about liquidity. We also debut the Tool Tip of the Month and have a candid conversation about LP accountability, fraud vs. operator error vs. market risk, and how to use community to get smarter.
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Remember that past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any of the advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.
Host Chris Lopez sits down with John Bowens, CISP of Equity Trust to demystify Solo 401(k)s for real estate investors. John explains who actually qualifies, how to stack contributions up to $70k/$77.5k/$81,250 (2025 limits) and use the “mega backdoor” to Roth, and why Solo 401(k)s can avoid UBIT on debt-financed syndications when IRAs often can’t. They get tactical on plan design- one bank account with clean source tracking, blending traditional + Roth into a single subscription (and later in-plan conversions), and exactly how to roll over or restate a plan without triggering a termination. John also breaks down spouse/child participation, controlled-group and W-2 pitfalls, and a real UBIT case study that shows how the right plan choice can save five figures in tax.
Key Takeaways:
Solo 401(k) eligibility: true self-employment income and no rank-and-file W-2s; spouse/partners OK, under-21 and part-time hour rules matter
Higher limits + mega backdoor Roth: employee non-deductible → in-plan Roth conversion for bigger tax-free growth
UBIT advantage: Solo 401(k)s are generally exempt from UDFI/UBIT on debt-financed real estate (IRAs are not)
Simpler operations: one bank account, source tracking in software, and the ability to blend trad + Roth in one deal and convert later
Do rollovers right: restate/transfer the plan (don’t “terminate”), mind Form 5500, and watch controlled-group attribution
Disclaimer
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Remember that past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any of the advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.





















