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NASCAR announcer and Atlanta traffic columnist Doug "Fireball" Turnbull, roving racing journo and college sports announcer Devin Kupka, and championship-winning NASCAR mechanic Dan Elliott go long form on five or so big stories in the racing world each week, along with tales from the garage and the grandstands from over the years. Their racing expertise ranges generations and their enthusiasm is endless. And they might even make you laugh.
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Special guests Archie and Tina Kennedy join Dan, Devin, and Doug and discuss what driving motor coaches for Hendrick Motorsports' Jeff Gordon (Archie) and Jeff Andrews (Tina) is like, including how little time they spend at home. Archie also shares a classic Tony Stewart story and Tina shares what working for Greg Biffle was like. Then the crew gives their Daytona 500 thoughts, including what Devin saw at the track in Daytona and what Dan would do to the length of the Great American Race. And they give a weekend run down of Echo Park Speedway events and their picks to win.
Doug, Devin, and Dan discuss all things Daytona. Devin gives his impressions from his first media experience and his first 500 weekend and shares what the mood was like around both qualifying and the long media day. The crew also discusses Kyle Busch's future after this season and predicts Daytona winners and 2026 champions in all three series. 
Doug, Devin, and Dan break down the halting, strange, and exciting Clash win for Ryan Preece at Bowman Gray Stadium. They discuss what impact the race has on the season and why Dan thinks the extra horsepower is problematic on such a short track. They also talk about the Washington D.C. grand prix just added for IndyCar and preview what Devin is looking to see at his first Daytona 500.
Doug, Dan, and Devin properly toast the ROVAL after reports indicate the Charlotte fall race is moving back to the oval. They recall some of the biggest moments on the Charlotte road course, some stats, and why the Playoff eliminations are what made those races the most exciting. They also deconstruct NASCAR's "old is new again" approach and how fan enthusiasm is a moving target. They also preview the Clash, but note that this episode was recorded before NASCAR moved all Clash events to Sunday. 
Doug, Dan, and Devin are diving deep on some of NASCAR's tweaks to the fastest lap points and pit road procedures. They also discuss another big name in the Daytona Truck race and two female drivers that will be part-time in Trucks. And they break down a big fast food chain moving into and out of NASCAR.
Doug, Devin, and Dan share their initial thoughts on NASCAR's choice to revert back to the 10-race Chase format and where fans and media should now place their emphasis. They also discuss Tony Stewart's return to NASCAR - for one race - and another Cup driver deciding to dip into the Trucks. They also discuss the theft at Greg Biffle's house, what IHRA is up to, and a popular sponsor that is staying in NASCAR. 
Were Doug, Dan, and Devin expecting Steve Phelps to leave NASCAR? They will explain why they think his exit was inevitable and what may lie next for the sport. They also toy with the idea of outside ownership of the sport and what they want and expect Monday's Playoff format announcement to be.
With Dan away, Doug and Devin reflect on a tumultuous NASCAR season and explain why only one driver qualifies as the sport's main character of the year. They also explain drivers and teams they saw both improve and under-perform and why predictions are so difficult. And they discuss yet another NASCAR tragedy, as Denny Hamlin's father, Dennis, passed away in a house fire.
Doug, Devin, and Dan reflect on Greg Biffle and the six others killed in Thursday's plane crash in North Carolina. Doug and Dan share some personal interactions with Biffle. Dan talks about Biffle's perseverance during a long testing day at Gresham Motorsports Park and Doug recalls a particularly good media session with the Biff. They also talk about the others killed in the wreck and how the NASCAR community has experienced so much loss in aviation. They also quickly give their take on the beef between Denny Hamlin and Larry McReynolds after the conclusion of the lawsuit.
343 - Post-lawsuit aura

343 - Post-lawsuit aura

2025-12-1401:09:29

Doug, Devin, and Dan share their thoughts after NASCAR and the teams settle the antitrust suit and what lies ahead for the sport. They also talk about the breaking point that they think led to the settlement and why it could bolster the other national NASCAR series. They also talk about Nick Sanchez losing his ride, Levar Scott to Alpha Prime, Stephen Nasse finally winning the Snowball Derby, and Keelan Harvick's Snowflake triumph. 
Doug, Dan, and Devin share their thoughts after a robust opening week in the NASCAR antitrust suit. They explore whether their opinions on either the teams' or NASCAR cases really changed after testimony from Denny Hamlin, Bob Jenkins, Steve O'Donnell, and others in the Charlotte court. They also discuss if money really solves the problems and if there is anything in the case that would actually make an ardent fan not watch in 2026. And they cover big news with Chris Gabehart and some other NASCAR offseason news.
Doug, Dan, and Devin look at some of the highlights (or lowlights) from the documents the antitrust lawsuit has unearthed, including the group's sober takes on salacious texts. They look closer at the money the teams make and discuss the adverse effect that competing race series would have on the sport. They also take a look at the new IHRA stock car series, Red Bull's increased Trackhouse support, and Brent Crews' full-time (mostly) NOAPS ride with JGR.
Doug, Devin, and Dan welcome Alpha Prime Racing co-owner and former driver Tommy Joe Martins to do a deep-dive in the economics of running his race team and the key differences between Alpha Prime and the championship-winning teams. Martins previews the awards ceremony he created for all teams, the Grand National Bash, and shares why he is so outspoken on behalf of lower-level teams. Martins also answers why charters and spec cars haven't come to the lower series and why he opposes Cup drivers running in Trucks and O'Reilly Auto Parts races. Martins also talks about why the celebration was so big when driver Brennan Poole finished top 20 in points at the checkered flag in Phoenix and how it fiscally was like a race win. 
Doug, Dan, and Devin break down the 2026 NASCAR broadcast schedule and what the split between USA and NBC actually means. They also discuss NASCAR demographics and how predicting future consumption of the sport is very hard. The crew also talks about the latest antitrust lawsuit developments and why Hendrick and Penske do not want to testify. And they break down what three drivers are testing at Bristol this week and what could actually improve the Gen-7 short track package. 
Doug, Devin, and Dan review the championship races in Phoenix and get to the heart of the outrage and misunderstanding that some people have with Hamlin's heartbreak and Larson's surprising Championship win. They also discuss Silly Season and the increase next year of Cup drivers in lower series races. 
Doug, Dan, and Devin break down William Byron's dominant, clutch Martinsville win and detail what this means for Byron and Larson in Phoenix. The crew also gives their championship picks, previews championship weekend, and shares an interesting wrinkle in the Xfinity Series title. They also talk about young drivers hurting their futures and what info is missing to really drive the lawsuit narrative. 
Doug, Devin, and Dan recap Chase Briscoe's Talladega win and how the tables turned for Penske. Devin also compares Talladega's crowd-energy in the stands to last year and analyzes the Playoff bubble now versus past years in this format. Dan shares why he would not want to run Martinsville or Talladega as a Playoff driver and what he plans to do at the annual Dawsonville Mountain Moonshine Festival this weekend. The crew also breaks down some Silly Season news and reasons why F1's Apple TV deal could be problematic. 
Doug, Devin, and Dan discuss Hamlin's emotional triumph in Vegas and why win 60 hit differently. They also talk about the trickiness in the Ty Dillon vs. William Byron crash and why "must win" is premature. Then they give their opinions on NASCAR's officiating of race manipulation and why that is so difficult. They also preview Talladega, including the surprisingly good driver there in the Gen-7 era. 
Doug, Dan, and Devin sum up the Roval cutoff race from Charlotte and why Shane van Gisbergen's dominant win and Ross Chastain's Playoffs loss are both misunderstood. They also preview Vegas and give their shot-in-the-dark Playoff prediction
Doug, Dan, and Devin process the crazy Kansas Speedway finish and how Denny Hamlin and Bubba Wallace got tunnel vision and served the win to Chase Elliott. They also discuss how hard getting above the cutline at the Roval will be, Rodney Childers' move to the Xfinity Series, and much more. 
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