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Discussing the latest news in digital art. With Leyla Fakhr, Artie Handz,
Ivan Zhyzhkevych, and Jamie Gourlay.
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00:33 - Welcome Adrian Pocobelli 01:39 - Discovering the counterculture 07:10 - The desire to collect 13:05 - The Stone Roses, The Smiths, and J. G. Ballard 19:00 - Neoplatonism and psychedelics 24:30 - Learning the craft of graphic design 26:50 - Becoming a broadcaster 29:05 - Finding crypto, Objkt and Tezos 31:35 - The difference between crypto art and art on the blockchain 34:52 - The evolution of the NFT space 39:45 - The complex...
00:45 - Welcome Sebastian Sanchez 08:55 - A journey into digital art 11:05 - Christie's 3.0 and joining the team 17:44 - Developing a commercial mindset 20:40 - Finding the right market fit 22:30 - Nurturing artist and collector relationships 25:05 - Highlights across the last three years 26:58 - Curatorial vs commercial perspectives 30:18 - The effect of an open market on institutional Web3 adoption 32:12 - The closure of Christie's digit...
00:45 - Yeche Lange and Avant Gay recap 05:40 - Series size and collector focus 10:00 - Artist trajectories and release mechanics 13:10 - Art and the Diderot effect 20:10 - Collecting strategies and high-net-worth individuals 24:45 - What if every work was soulbound 28:30 - Cultural stickiness in the face of diluted attention 33:00 - Collecting as self narrative reinforcement 35:28 - Christie's digital art department closure 42:03 - V001: ...
00:45 - Welcome Eric De Giuli 02:18 - Connecting art and theoretical physics 05:35 - Early explorations into generative art 08:29 - Balancing artistic and academic practices 10:35 - Discovering NFTs, 2021, and Art Blocks 13:05 - Navigating multiple audiences 16:25 - Creating order from nothing 18:55 - Avoiding noise as a structural element 23:50 - Amplifying and controlling unpredictability 26:56 - Emergent complexity from simple building ...
00:35 - Welcome Rafaël Rozendaal 02:55 - The advantage of a conversational archive 06:21 - The influence of travel and cultural heritage 08:25 - Neen, LA and digital art in the late '90s 12:06 - Growing up in an artistic household 14:32 - Grants, funding and commercial pressure 16:35 - The potential of the early internet 21:00 - Art school and early connections 27:30 - Berlin and Post-Internet 31:30 - The impact of New York on a working pr...
00:46 - Welcome Jared Madere 03:19 - The genesis of Yeche Lange 09:20 - Market consolidation and post-2021 11:00 - Exploring the role of the gallery in the Web3 space 16:18 - What caused the scene to develop on Solana 18:03 - The growth of community 21:59 - Earl16o1, trader fiction and chart paintings 25:35 - Compatibility with the traditional sphere 31:40 - A new mode of operating for a changing art world 40:20 - Market transparency...
00:47 - Welcome Paul Pfeiffer 03:07 - The spectacle of sport 07:06 - Exploring the implications of new technology 10:05 - Working with digital media in the early 1990s 14:50 - The blurring of the digital and the human 20:08 - How media consumption has shifted across the last thirty years 23:50 - The stadium as mediatised architecture 30:57 - New work and developing projects Paul Pfeiffer: https://www.instagram.com/pmp2021
00:48 - Diving into the Solana trenches 07:40 - PFP culture and Drilady 08:50 - Chain-specific culture and why Solana makes sense 14:26 - Parker Ito and the impact of Horses?2 17:00 - A different community of artists and collectors 19:00 - Jay's mid-curve meme 20:34 - Raoul Pal and consensus vs non-consensus 27:40 - Should we all be bullposting? 29:40 - AB[500] and does shuttering encourage long-term value accrual 32:55 - Verse rundown&nbs...
00:38 - Welcome Parker Ito 05:25 - Tumblr, Post-Internet scene and finding community 12:20 - The effect of early success 20:30 - Disillusionment with the art world 24:25 - What caused the market to boom 26:28 - Deep lore, Basel 2015 and Leonardo DiCaprio 30:01 - The compromises needed to work as an artist 33:03 - Through-lines and stylistic tropes 35:10 - A non-hierarchical approach 38:17 - Discovering NFTs 39:50 - Balancing the trad...
00:48 - Welcome Adam Levine 01:15 - What sets the Toledo Museum of Art apart 05:22 - Ensuring the community has access to culture 07:20 - The benefit of private funding 10:10 - TMA's digital program 13:25 - The history and founding principles of the museum 21:20 - An emphasis on craft, skill and aesthetic quality 27:10 - Artist studios, manufacturing and industrial process 31:20 - Infinite Images: The Art of Algorithms 33:40 - The Digital ...
00:40 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel 01:35 - Working with plotters 05:06 - Creative beginnings 08:45 - A grounding in early AI 11:20 - From tech to art school 13:50 - The shifting context around digital presentation 16:10 - The development of post-internet art 18:00 - Separating sales and practice 22:40 - Markov's Window 25:00 - Establishing Left gallery and discovering blockchain 30:33 - The stress of managing a gallery 32:01 - The i...
00:44 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel and Regina Harsanyi 03:05 - Nasty Nets, Club Internet and the early surf clubs 09:05 - Creating context and community through curation 12:40 - Ongoing scepticism around blockchain and NFTs 18:00 - Left Gallery, early blockchain based ownership and speculation 20:10 - The speed of secondary in the digital world 22:00 - On creating Quantizer 27:10 - A true reflection of the blockchain and networked broadcast 33:...
00:35 - Welcome Steve McKeon 02:25 - Navigating the dot-com boom and bust 08:19 - A winding path to tenure 13:20 - Discovering crypto 15:50 - Writing Traditional Asset Tokenisation 19:30 - The birth of Collab+Currency 24:50 - A shift to consumer focus and NFTs 28:30 - Equity vs tokens 33:45 - The Art Blocks [500] 36:15 - Collectibility and end caps 38:05 - Traditional art, sculpture and Jim Dine 45:20 - Donald Judd and Marfa&nb...
03:00 - Luba Elliott on Terence Broad 04:15 - Autoencoding Blade Runner 09:25 - Machine learning in 2016 12:31 - Arriving at the crossroads of technology and art 15:35 - Why Blade Runner? 19:05 - Luba and Terrence's collaboration through Feral File 22:06 - (un)stable equilibrium 25:00 - The conceptual journey behind the work 29:50 - Imperfect copies and more constraints 31:35 - The construction of the final video pieces 34:55 - A ren...
00:50 - Welcome Roger Dickerman 02:48 - The importance of a physical space 06:02 - Roger's journey into digital art 07:45 - A deliberate imbalance 11:02 - Controlling the bookends 14:15 - The birth of Artifex and 24 Hours of Art 20:25 - Sustainability and longevity 22:35 - Putting the work in and riding out the bear 24:45 - A process of iteration and evolution 28:35 - "One foot in the market, one foot firmly in the love of the art" 3...
This week we sat down with seasoned advisor Eli Scheinman to discuss his new role at Art Basel, what’s driving the market’s fresh momentum, how today’s collectors are maturing and how to frame emerging work for a more traditional crowd. 00:50 - Welcome Eli Scheinman 02:39 - Why the market's moving 04:30 - The trickle-down effect of big sales 07:07 - New entrants into the space 09:48 - The flow from collectibles and PFPs into art 14:37 - Eli's role with Art Basel&...
This week Leyla sits down with artist and filmmaker Nikita Diakur to explore his journey in the art and film worlds, spotlighting his acclaimed short film 'Ugly'. They dive into the film's themes and the creative process behind it, as well as his artistic identity, experiences with NFTs, and his upcoming exhibition on Verse with SOLOS. 00:40 - Welcome Nikita Diakur 02:20 - Identity and a multi faceted creative path 03:15 - Finding inspiration 06:04 - Exploring the themes in Ugly&n...
This week we sat down with former General Manager of CryptoPunks and founder of StoneWork Natalie Stone, and artist, gallerist and broker Shane Lavalette. We unpack Stone's journey into NFTs, Node’s Punks acquisition, and the enduring passion of the community as well as the evolution of curation and collector identity, Shane's thought process when looking at an artist's body of work and the value of transparency and provenance. 00:30 - Welcoming Natalie Stone and Shane Lavalette 02:44...
We sat down this week with long-form generative pioneer Tyler Hobbs to explore Day Gardens, his new body of work released with La Collection at Art Basel this week. They dive into the balance between personal life and artistic career, and the future of generative art in a rapidly changing landscape, as well as the effect of audience expectations and market dynamics on a creative practice. 00:50 - Welcome Tyler Hobbs 04:50 - The evolution of Tyler's artistic journey 10:20 - Consi...
Jamie and Leyla sit down with artist Erik Swahn in advance of his upcoming series Soma. They discuss his artistic evolution, the impact of attention on creativity, and the relationship between colour and music. The conversation delves into the title and concept of Soma, as well as Erik's thoughts on the future of his artistic practice. 01:10 - Welcome Erik Swahn 02:40 - The effect of attention on the creative process 04:30 - From architecture to art 06:39 - Discovering...
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