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Welcome to a podcast that addresses everything "Official" From A to 🦓 with hosts Dana Pappas, Director of Officiating Services/NFHS & Nate Acosta, NCAA Women's Basketball Official/Former Assistant to the Commissioner of Officials in New Mexico. A plethora of topics delving into the world of officiating and sport officials with special guests and other interesting information aimed to Elevate, Educate, and Excite everyone about Officials.
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Summary: In this episode, we explore the remarkable career of Marc Ratner, a legendary figure in sports officiating, boxing, and UFC. Discover his journey from high school sports to the White House, and learn valuable lessons on officiating, leadership, and adapting to new challenges.Sound Bites:"A parachute landing into the ring was unforgettable""Asking the referee if he was sure saved the fight""Being invited to the White House fight was surreal"Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Guest Background01:58 Marc's Passion for High School Sports05:10 Journey as a Division I Football Official10:24 Getting Involved in Boxing and UFC13:46 Challenges Across Different Sports Levels25:05 Transition from Ring to Octagon30:18 Event Planning at the White House33:01 Evolution of UFC Over 20 Years33:45 Marc's Hall of Fame Honors37:02 Writing 'Ringside' and Memorable Stories39:35 Advice on Officiating and LeadershipResources:RefReps Official Resources - https://refreps.comMarc Ratner's Book: Ringside, My Life Outside the Ropes and the Octagon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09XYZ1234Guest Links:LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/marcratnerTwitter - https://twitter.com/marcratner
Summary In this episode, Dr. David Piller shares his extensive journey in basketball officiating, his role on the Indiana Hoosiers' table crew, and the importance of officiating in sports. Discover insights into the skills needed, the evolution of officiating, and how officiating enhances the sports experience.Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest02:09 David Pillar's Officiating Journey06:00 The Role of Table Crew in Basketball11:41 Ref Reps and Its Impact on Officiating17:20 Recognition and Awards in Officiating21:17 The Importance of Communication in Officiating28:37 Building Relationships Between Officials and Table Crew31:57 The Importance of Communication in Officiating37:05 Game Management and Communication with Coaches45:17 The Role of Table Crews in Officiating48:23 Passion for Officiating and the Game Experience56:09 Inclusivity in Sports and Opportunities for Involvement01:00:06 Outro
Summary In this inspiring episode, Greta Lange-Henry shares her journey into umpiring, breaking barriers as a woman in baseball, and the impactful work of Level UMP supporting underrepresented officials. Discover how passion, perseverance, and community are transforming the sport and empowering the next generation.Takeaways Passion and perseverance can lead to breaking barriers in sports.Supporting underrepresented groups in officiating is vital for diversity.Community and mentorship are key to success in sports careers.The legacy of Wendelstedt Umpire School shapes future generations.Confidence and continuous learning are essential for officials.Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Journey of Umpiring02:54 Greta's Unique Path to Umpiring05:38 Overcoming Challenges and Building Confidence05:58 The Importance of Mentorship and Support08:46 Trailblazing as a Female Umpire11:20 The Legacy of Wendelstedt Umpire School14:12 Reflections on the End of an Era16:43 The Emotional Connection to Officiating23:26 The Emotional Journey of Officiating27:36 Understanding the Role of Officials31:31 Lessons Learned from Umpire School34:38 Introducing Level UMP: A New Era43:45 Building Community and Support in Umpiring53:43 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode, NFL official Anthony Jeffries shares his journey from high school officiating to the NFL, emphasizing the importance of grassroots programs, mentorship, and continuous learning in officiating. Discover how giving back and building strong foundations can elevate your officiating career at any level.Keywords: officiating, NFL, grassroots, mentorship, game management, officiating camp, leadership, officiating journey, officiating tips, officiating communitySound Bites: "Giving back is the foundation of everything I do.""Officiating is an act of service, not just a job.""The goal is to be 1% better every day."Chapters: 00:00 Welcome to Season Three02:52 Anthony Jeffries' Officiating Journey05:42 The Importance of Grassroots Initiatives08:43 Memories from the Interscholastic Level11:26 The Role of Community in Officiating14:22 The Philosophy Behind the Ref Academy Camp17:03 Learning from the Best in the Industry23:14 Building a Strong Foundation for Officials26:58 Game Management and Officiating Philosophy28:58 The Importance of Communication in Officiating32:47 Balancing Officiating with Personal Life35:29 Mentorship and Recruitment in Officiating38:29 The Value of Continuous Improvement44:15 Grassroots Efforts in OfficiatingResources:RefReps Official Library - https://www.refreps.com/from-a-to-zebra-podcastRef Academy Next Level - https://www.refacademyllc.com/new-page-1-2High School Officiating Resources - https://highschoolofficial.com
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, host Dana Pappas interviews Gene Steratore, a former NFL referee and current rules analyst. They discuss Gene's journey into officiating, the challenges of managing multiple sports, and the importance of empathy in officiating. Gene shares insights on the evolution of officiating, the significance of mentorship, and the need to honor officiating legends. The conversation emphasizes the lessons learned through officiating and the impact it has on personal growth and sportsmanship.Sound Bites:"I was kind of born into officiating.""Navigating travel was challenging.""There's a beauty in being different."Chapters:00:00 Gene Steratore's Journey in Officiating05:41 Navigating Dual Sports as an Official08:38 The Role of an On-Air Rules Analyst11:44 The Importance of Being a Multi-Sport Official14:47 The Significance of Wearing the Stripes17:26 Lessons Learned from Officiating20:43 Top Moments in Gene's Officiating Career35:16 Family Dynamics and Professional Rivalry39:25 The Importance of Trust in Officiating43:42 Navigating Challenges in Officiating48:26 The Evolution of Officiating: Technology and Rules53:36 Honoring Officiating Legends01:05:12 Lessons from Officiating: Empathy and Growth01:13:55 Outro
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, host Dana Pappas speaks with Alex Scandalis, CEO of United Umpires, about his journey in officiating, the mission of United Umpires, and the challenges and rewards of being an umpire. They discuss the importance of balancing life and officiating, the roles of conference coordinators, and provide valuable advice for new umpires. The conversation emphasizes the dedication of officials and the significance of building relationships within the officiating community.#UnitedUmpiresTakeawaysAlex Scandalis started umpiring at a young age for extra money.United Umpires serves the entire baseball community, not just umpires.Balancing work and personal life is a challenge for officials.New umpires should explore multiple sports to stay engaged.The role of conference coordinators varies by level of play.Young umpires need support from their families and communities.Building trust is essential in officiating relationships.Officials work hard and care deeply about their roles.The journey of an umpire can lead to significant opportunities.It's important to provide constructive feedback to officials.Chapters00:00 The Journey of an Umpire06:23 United Umpires: Mission and Structure11:34 Balancing Life and Officiating21:06 Advice for New Umpires25:34 Roles of Conference Coordinators30:37 Building Relationships in Officiating34:33 The Evolving Role of College Coordinators38:01 Advice for Young Umpires and Family Support45:47 Challenges and Rewards in Umpire Training54:15 Understanding the Human Side of Officiating01:00:11 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this special edition of the From A to Zebra podcast, host Dana Pappas engages with football officials Lou Murphy, Joey Shelnutt, and Ken Washington to discuss the heart-stopping incident that occurred during a game, where Joey suffered a heart attack. The conversation explores their personal journeys into officiating, the immediate response to the emergency, the aftermath of recovery, and the support from the officiating community. The episode emphasizes the importance of health awareness and CPR training for officials, as well as the strong bonds formed within the officiating family.TakeawaysJoey Shelnutt's journey into officiating began through encouragement from a friend.Lou Murphy started officiating to stay involved in sports as his son played.Ken Washington's officiating career took off quickly due to mentorship.The incident on August 22nd was a life-changing moment for Joey Shelnutt.Lou Murphy acted quickly to perform CPR on Joey during the emergency.Community support for Joey came from officials across the country, including NFL referees.Health checks and CPR certification for officials are crucial for safety.The officiating community is a close-knit family that supports each other.Joey plans to return to officiating after his recovery.Lou emphasizes the importance of being proactive about health in officiating.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Heart of Officiating02:47 Personal Journeys into Officiating07:32 The Incident: A Life-Threatening Moment12:56 Recovery and Medical Insights17:58 The Officiating Community's Response23:47 Reflections and Future Considerations27:59 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, host Dana Pappas and co-host Nate Acosta engage with Dr. Mercer Morgan III, a military veteran and officiating enthusiast. They explore the unique X-Factor that military experience brings to officiating, discuss Mercer's personal journey through cancer, and highlight the importance of mentorship and support within the officiating community. Mercer shares his insights on overcoming adversity, the significance of preparation, and the role of the officiating family in navigating challenges. His story serves as an inspiration for officials and listeners alike, emphasizing resilience and dedication in both sports and life.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background10:18 The X Factor in Officiating19:33 Overcoming Adversity: The Cancer Journey28:16 The Role of Support Systems in Officiating
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, hosts Dana Pappas and Nate Acosta engage with MK McGee, a seasoned basketball official and advocate for female sports officials. They discuss MK's journey in officiating, the challenges faced by women in the field, and the importance of mentorship and community. MK shares insights from her platform, Her Call, which aims to elevate the stories of female officials and address the gender gap in sports officiating. The conversation highlights the intersection of teaching and officiating, the significance of relationships in the officiating community, and offers valuable advice for aspiring female officials.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guests03:41 MK McGee's Officiating Journey06:19 The Importance of High School Officiating09:07 Teaching and Officiating: Parallels and Challenges12:03 The Evolution of Officiating Education14:38 The Launch of Her Call: A Community for Female Officials17:19 Addressing the Gender Gap in Officiating20:06 The Impact of Female Officials in Sports22:42 The Growth and Success of Her Call25:08 Common Themes Among Female Officials28:03 Conclusion and Future Aspirations31:45 Navigating Minority Experiences in Officiating33:41 The Importance of Relationships in Officiating35:03 Balancing Motherhood and Officiating37:42 Support from Male Allies40:33 Challenges of Female Officials42:29 Overcoming Gender Disparities in Officiating49:05 Advice for Aspiring Female Officials51:12 Elevating Women's Stories in Officiating55:02 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, hosts Dana Pappas and Nate Acosta interview Kelly Elliott Dine, a trailblazing female umpire in baseball. Kelly shares her inspiring journey from coaching her sons to becoming a prominent figure in officiating, breaking barriers in a male-dominated sport. The conversation explores the challenges she faced, the importance of professionalism, and the role of allies in supporting women in officiating. Kelly also discusses how her military background has shaped her approach to officiating and encourages other women to pursue careers in this field.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Women in Officiating02:54 Kelly's Umpiring Journey07:41 Highlights of Kelly's Season14:33 Challenges Faced by Women in Officiating24:27 Breaking Barriers in Officiating28:55 The Journey of Female Officials31:57 The Impact of Military Experience on Officiating37:06 Encouraging Women in Officiating40:44 Celebrating Achievements and Future Aspirations
Summary:In this episode of the From A To Zebra podcast, hosts Dana Pappas and Nate Acosta engage with executive directors Rob Cuff and David Jackson to discuss the value of officials in interscholastic athletics. They explore the challenges faced by state associations, the importance of recognizing and valuing officials, and strategies for retention. The conversation emphasizes the need for strong relationships, support, and resources to enhance the officiating experience and ensure the sustainability of interscholastic sports.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions02:27 Career Journeys of Executive Directors04:45 Day-to-Day Responsibilities and Challenges07:34 The Value of Officials in Interscholastic Athletics10:07 Recognizing and Valuing Officials12:53 Building Relationships with Officials21:01 Appreciation and Recognition for Officials23:07 The Importance of Relationships in Retaining Officials24:46 Compensation and Recognition for Officials26:30 Creating a Culture of Belonging for Officials30:28 Educational Resources and Support for Officials34:10 The Value of State Associations to Officials39:51 The Impact of Officials on Young Athletes46:06 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, host Dana Pappas and co-host Nate Acosta engage with Kristi Moore, a softball umpire who became a voice for officials after experiencing an unexpected assault during a game. Kristi shares her journey into officiating, the shocking incident that changed her life, and the aftermath that followed, including legal consequences and the importance of accountability in youth sports. Despite the challenges, Kristi highlights unexpected positives that emerged from her experience, including advocacy for better protection for officials and the support she received from the officiating community. The conversation emphasizes the need for respect and understanding towards officials and the importance of fostering a positive environment in youth sports.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Kristi Moore's Journey04:45 The Unexpected Incident: Assault on the Field07:36 The Aftermath: Legal Consequences and Community Response10:21 Reflections on Safety and Security in Youth Sports12:57 The Impact of Parental Behavior on Youth Sports15:46 The Role of Officials: Humanizing the Umpire Experience18:48 Unexpected Positives: Advocacy and Awareness21:17 Lessons Learned: Safety Protocols for Officials31:28 Courtroom Drama and Consequences32:51 Speaking Out and Opening Doors34:10 The Impact of Advocacy on Officiating35:52 Community Support and Brotherhood in Officiating38:16 Resilience and Moving Forward41:49 Empowerment and Inspiring Future Generations48:03 The Role of Officiating in Sportsmanship50:03 Excitement and Passion in Officiating54:34 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, hosts Dana Pappas and Nate Acosta engage with Mark Stroia, a seasoned official with over 35 years of experience across multiple sports. The conversation delves into the transformative nature of officiating, exploring Mark's journey from a three-sport athlete to a dedicated official and educator. The discussion highlights the importance of balancing officiating with family life, the rewards and challenges of being a multi-sport official, and the critical role of mentorship in recruiting the next generation of officials. Mark shares personal anecdotes that illustrate the emotional connection to officiating and the impact it can have on individuals and communities.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Officiating and Mark's Journey07:26 Balancing Officiating with Family and Career11:52 Teaching and Officiating: A Shared Skillset13:55 Rewards and Challenges of Being a Three-Sport Official18:22 The Value of Officiating: Income and Recruitment23:30 Transformative Power of Officiating25:29 The Transition from Sports to Life After Competition27:48 The Reality of Student Athletes' Futures29:17 The Transformative Power of Officiating31:30 Mentorship and Growth in Officiating38:15 Recruiting and Retaining New Officials43:04 Educating, Elevating, and Exciting Future Officials46:35 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, hosts Dana Pappas and Nate Acosta welcome Charlie Obermayer, an NCAA men's lacrosse official, to discuss the importance of taking care of your crew in officiating. The conversation delves into Charlie's officiating journey, the legacy of Gordon Corsetti, and the significance of mental health awareness within the officiating community. The episode emphasizes the need for empathy, connection, and support among officials, highlighting how these elements can elevate the officiating experience and foster a stronger community.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Officiating and Personal Journeys09:44 The Story of Gordon Corsetti and 'Take Care of Your Crew'17:18 The Impact of Mental Health in Officiating28:15 Reflections on Loss and Community Support32:58 Continuing Gordon's Legacy33:53 Mental Health in Officiating35:46 Resources for Mental Health Support38:43 De-stigmatizing Mental Health Conversations41:37 Remembering Gordon Corsetti48:58 The Impact of Gordon's Story51:55 Elevating the Officiating Community55:59 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, hosts Dana Pappas and Nate Acosta are joined by Robert Abney, a seasoned sports official. They discuss the importance of humor in officiating, the parallels between education and officiating, and the value of empathy in managing games. Robert shares his journey into officiating, memorable moments, and the significance of building relationships within the officiating community. The conversation emphasizes the need for new officials to embrace humor and learn from their experiences while highlighting the supportive nature of the officiating family.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Officiating and Humor06:41 Robert Abney's Officiating Journey11:37 The Role of Education in Officiating15:50 Lessons from Multi-Sport Officiating20:16 The Importance of Humor in Officiating23:12 The Joy of Officiating and Community Engagement28:08 Humor in High-Pressure Situations31:00 Learning to Laugh at Ourselves35:20 The Importance of Relationships in Officiating37:41 Advice for New and Veteran Officials41:04 The Officiating Family and Shared Experiences44:45 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, hosts Dana Pappas and Nate Acosta engage with Bob Delaney, a former NBA referee and expert on resilience. The conversation explores Delaney's journey from officiating to undercover police work, emphasizing the importance of resilience in both sports and life. Delaney shares insights on defining resilience, personal experiences that shaped his understanding, and the significance of self-care. He also discusses his books on post-traumatic stress and resilience, highlighting the need for ongoing learning and support in officiating and beyond.Kintsugi (金継ぎ), meaning "golden joinery" in Japanesethe art of repairing broken pottery with lacquer and gold, emphasizing the breaks and imperfections as part of the object's history and beauty... It is not just a craft, but also a philosophy that embraces imperfection, impermanence, and the beauty of transformation.https://insidethelife.org/episodes/bob-delaney-story-of-an-undercover-agent-turned-nba-referee/https://www.usf.edu/continuing-education/lifelong-learning/upskill-reskill/cyber-national-security/resilience-and-self-care.aspxChapters00:00 Introduction to Resilience and Officiating Journey05:55 Undercover Work and Its Impact on Resilience12:51 Traits for Undercover Work and Their Relevance18:24 Defining Resilience in Officiating22:44 Finding Inner Peace in Chaos24:15 Resilience Through Adversity29:44 The Power of Storytelling and Connection35:22 Understanding Trauma and Its Impact40:59 The Importance of Lifelong Learning and Self-Care44:56 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, hosts Dana Pappas and Nate Acosta welcome Donnie Nunez, a respected figure in basketball officiating. The conversation covers Donnie's journey from a young official to a mentor, the importance of family and community in officiating, and the significance of the Tommy Nunez Annual National Hispanic Basketball Classic. They discuss the challenges faced by officials, the concept of 'resetting' during games, and the need for officials to reinvent themselves throughout their careers. The episode emphasizes the importance of education, elevation, and excitement in officiating, encouraging listeners to appreciate their journey and the impact they can have on the sport.Chapters00:00 Donnie Nunez's Officiating Journey08:50 The Importance of Family in Officiating12:39 The Tommy Nunez Annual National Hispanic Basketball Classic19:39 Reflections on Roles and Challenges in Officiating21:08 The Journey of an Official27:30 The Importance of Resetting During Games41:59 Reinventing Yourself as an Official47:43 Educate, Elevate, and Excite in Officiating54:43 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, host Dana Pappas speaks with Matt Head, a Division 1 women's basketball referee and elementary school PE teacher, about the importance of quick thinking in officiating. They discuss Matt's journey into officiating, the parallels between teaching and officiating, the role of technology in sports, and the significance of mental agility through brain breaks. The conversation emphasizes the community aspect of officiating and offers practical tips for improving mental acuity and performance on the court.https://refcamp.app  https://www.techref.app/ Matt Head Social Media Accounts:https://www.tiktok.com/@oneoldkidhttps://instagram.com/oneoldkidhttps://youtube.com/oneoldkidChapters00:00 Introduction to Quick Thinking in Officiating03:26 Matt Head's Officiating Journey07:37 Teaching and Officiating: A Dual Career11:29 Embracing Technology in Officiating18:42 Brain Breaks: Engaging the Mind22:24 The Importance of Quick Thinking in Officiating24:45 Improving Mental Acuity for Officials31:21 The Value of Officiating and Community35:14 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, host Dana Pappas and guest Verne Harris discuss the critical theme of preparation in officiating. They explore Verne's extensive officiating journey, the importance of year-round preparation, and how officials can prepare for individual games. The conversation also delves into navigating adversity, moving up the ranks, and handling the pressure of postseason games. Verne emphasizes the rewards of officiating and the importance of giving back to the community.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Officiating and Guest Introduction03:50 Vern Harris's Officiating Journey13:56 The Importance of Preparation for Officials17:52 Game-Specific Preparation Strategies24:14 Building Connections in Officiating26:46 Navigating Disappointments and Mental Preparation33:23 Preparing for the Next Level in Officiating42:10 Handling the Pressure of Postseason Games46:00 The Rewards of Officiating and Paying It Forward52:13 riverside_ed_- take 02 _ sep 25, 2024 001_from_a to zebra (1).mp4
Summary: In this episode of the From A to Zebra podcast, host Dana Pappas and guests Jack Jones and Cliff Jenkins, discuss the idea of open-mindedness in the world of officiating. They dive into topics about balancing professional careers with officiating, the importance of open-mindedness within officiating, and the rewards of officiating beyond the game. Topics such as communication and feedback, advice for new officials, and mentorship and development of officials are also detailed.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the importance of Open-Mindedness in officiating and guests10:58 Balancing Officiating with Professional Careers16:44 Advice for New Officials23:53 The Importance of Open-Mindedness in Officiating36:42 Mentorship and Development in Officiating42:55 Feedback and Communication in Officiating48:09 The Rewards of Officiating Beyond the Game53:28 Outro
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