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"The Next Pats Podcast" focuses on the NFL Draft and free agency for the New England Patriots. NBC Sports Boston's Phil Perry welcomes guests and breakdowns every aspect of the Patriots offseason, including free-agency and the NFL Draft.
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Phil Perry is joined by Emory Hunt of CBS Sports to break down his 2026 Draft Guide and identify the best late-round value picks for the New England Patriots. Plus, Phil dives into the mailbag to answer your latest questions.
00:00 YouTube Live: Crowd-sourced Mock Draft (April 15, 2PM)
03:30 Emory Hunt on his 2026 draft guide
08:30 Day 3 sleepers: Edge rushers for the Patriots
13:45 Under-the-radar WRs being slept on
17:50 Adding depth at LB in the later rounds
24:30 Next Pats mailbag
Link for Live Mock Draft: https://youtube.com/live/IaDN9TRUa1s
Get Emory's draft guide: FootballGameplan.com/2026DraftGuide
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Phil Perry talks with Fran Duffy to break down this year's "Tier Busters" in the upcoming draft. They break down the Patriots specific needs, and who may be available at their current draft positions. Also, Phil Perry breaks down the looming potential trade of A.J. Brown, and how he may affect that Pats plans in this year's draft.
00:00 Setting the table / Coaches Meetings wrap-up
11:15 Welcome Fran Duffy
16:38 Busting Draft Tiers: Edge Rushers
22:45 Busting Draft Tiers: Tackles
29:50 Busting Draft Tiers: Tight Ends
34:10 Busting Draft Tiers: Wide Receivers
40:23 Phil's Mock Draft 4.0
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Phil Perry talks with Mike Renner to discuss three scenarios for the Patriots first three picks in the NFL Draft. What’s the best case scenario for the Patriots? WR with the first pick? Or should the address the Edge or Tackle position first?
00:00 Setting the table for the pod
08:30 Renner on the value of the Patriots first-round pick
10:30 Scenario 1: Patriots take WR with first pick
20:00 Scenario 2: Patriots take Tackle
27:30 Scenario 3: Patriots take Edge defender
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Phil Perry catches you up on the latest Patriots news and breaks down his selection for New England at No. 31 in his most recent Mock Draft 3.0. Later, he answers your mailbag questions and talks with Trevor Sikkema about finding potential Stefon Diggs replacements in the NFL Draft.
00:00 Catching up on the latest Patriots news
03:00 How the Jaylen Waddle trade impacts A.J. Brown’s price
13:00 Phil Perry’s NFL Mock Draft 3.0
26:30 Mailbag questions
55:30 Trevor Sikkema on finding Diggs replacements in the draft
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Phil Perry explains why moving on from Diggs is the right move for the Patriots and discusses some possible WR options for the team next season. Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson join to provide a step-by-step offseason plan for the Patriots.
00:00 Why moving on from Diggs is the right move
06:00 Ranking the WR options for the Patriots
13:00 Steve Palazzolo on building around Drake Maye
20:00 This WR would be a GREAT fit at no. 31
24:00 Sam Monson’s offseason plan for the Patriots
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Phil Perry sits down with JP Finlay to break down what went wrong for the Commanders in 2025 and what lessons the Patriots can take from Washington’s recent offseason strategy. Later, Phil breaks down some winners and losers from the NFL Combine.
00:00 How the Commanders serve as a cautionary tale for the Pats
04:30 Will upcoming contracts for Maye and Gonzalez impact spending?
06:00 JP Finlay on what the Patriots can learn from Washington’s approach
12:00 Is signing Maxx Crosby a bad idea for the Patriots?
16:30 Winners and losers from the NFL Combine
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Could the Patriots actually pull off a blockbuster move for A.J. Brown? Phil Perry sits down with NBC Sports Philadelphia’s Dave Zangaro to break down the reality of the situation. They dissect the trade rumors, analyze the steep price tag, and discuss why the Eagles aren't hitting the panic button just yet.
00:00 Eagles acknowledge they will take calls on A.J. Brown
9:30 Mike Vrabel on his relationship with Brown
11:00 Dave Zangaro on whether A.J. Brown gets dealt this offseason
14:00 What’s the cost for A.J. Brown?
18:00 Why the Eagles won’t rush dealing Brown
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Phil Perry reports the latest Patriots news and rumors from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. What did we learn about the Patriots' offseason needs from Eliot Wolf? Later, The Athletic's Dane Brugler breaks down the best "Vrabel guys" in this draft class.
00:00 The latest from the NFL Combine
1:30 Signs pointing to Patriots adding on defense this offseason
4:00 Pass-rush options for the Patriots
8:30 Do the Patriots NEED a #1 WR?
12:00 Dane Brugler on the depth of the draft
15:00 Finding Vrabel guys in the draft
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Phil Perry breaks down his latest mock draft where he has the Patriot adding ‘real juice at receiver for Drake Maye.’ Later, he talks with Connor Rogers and Daniel Jeremiah to preview the upcoming NFL combine.
0:00 Phil Perry’s most recent mock draft
24:30 Connor Rogers best options for Patriots at 31
27:00 Key players to watch at the Combine
32:00 The upside of KC Concepcion
42:00 Daniel Jeremiah on why he mocks Zion Young to Patriots
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The pain from the Patriots Super Bowl loss is there, but Phil Perry brings you a reason to smile....it’s NEXT PATS season. Phil does a deep dive on his five-point plan for the Patriots to UPGRADE their roster this offseason. 00:00 Vrabel on how the Super Bowl can be a valuable learning experience5:00 What kind of people are the Patriots looking for?12:00 Five-point plan for the Patriots offseason25:00 Next Pats mailbag
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Super Bowl week is in full swing. Phil Perry is on the ground in Santa Clara, previewing the Patriots-Seahawks matchup and which quarterback will lead their team to a Super Bowl win. Plus, Phil sits down with The Athletic’s Dianna Russini and SumerSports’ Mike Mayock to discuss the Patriots’ successful offseason, the franchise's future and the outlook for Drake Maye and Sam Darnold 00:00 - Which QB will drive their team to a Super Bowl win? 09:00 - Dianna Russini on Maxx Crosby, the Patriots' future and people doubting the team 16:00 - Mike Mayock on the Patriots' impressive offseason and whether he believes in Sam Darnold 26:00 - Super Bowl mailbag
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Who’s better to talk to about the upcoming BATTLE in the trenches than former Patriots OL coach Dante Scarnecchia? Phil Perry talks to him about the keys to the matchup, and then breaks down the Seattle defense and answers your mailbag questions.00:00 The latest on Drake Maye’s shoulder2:30 Dante Scarnecchia reacts to Pats making the Super Bowl4:00 Biggest challenge for coaching staff18:00 Who’s Next?!: The Seahawks defense23:00 Next Pats mailbag
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The Patriots are one win away from punching their ticket to the Super Bowl. What are the biggest keys to getting a win in Denver? Phil Perry talks with former Patriot Rob Ninkovich to get his breakdown of the AFC Championship. 00:00 Taking care of the football is a KEY on Sunday 4:00 Rob Ninkovich says don’t sleep on the backup 9:00 Ninkovich on playing for Sean Payton 14:30 What areas can Will Campbell improve on for Sunday? 19:30 Who’s next and mailbag questions
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Joe Buck will be on the call this Sunday when the Patriots face off against the Texans. Phil Perry catches up with Joe to discuss what he saw last week while calling the Texans game and gets his opinion on which legendary QB he compares Drake Maye to. Later, Phil previews the CFB Championship game and answers your mailbag questions.00:00 Patriots host Texans on Sunday1:30 Joe Buck on his relationship with New England sports fans6:00 Buck compares Maye to an all-time great9:00 Buck’s Patriots-Texans preview16:30 Players to keep an eye on during CFB Championship
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The Patriots are set to face the Chargers this Sunday night. Phil Perry breaks down why the Patriots’ run game will be KEY to getting a win. Later, Phil talks with Tony Dungy to get his thoughts on the job Mike Vrabel has done in New England and to preview the Sunday Night Football matchup.0:00 Why the Patriots’ run game will be key vs Chargers8:00 Tony Dungy credits Vrabel for changing culture in New England11:00 Will other teams look for defensive coaches?15:30 Tony Dungy: Patience will be the key for Drake Maye against Chargers17:30 Who’s Next?! And mailbag questions
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The odds have shifted in Drake Maye’s favor to win the NFL MVP over Matthew Stafford. Phil Perry breaks down the numbers and chats with Mike Sando from The Athletic to get his take on the criteria voters prioritize when deciding the award. Later, Phil highlights some potential Patriots from the NCAA and answers your mailbag questions.00:00 What the stats say about the MVP race7:30 Mike Sando weighs in on MVP debate8:30 What do voters look for when selecting an MVP?19:00 Who’s Next?! And mailbag questions
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Phil Perry talks with Brian Hoyer to get his thoughts and insight on the offense Josh McDaniels runs, and how it differs from other styles around the NFL. What has been the key to Drake Maye thriving in this offense?00:00 Getting to know the different offensive systems in the NFL7:00 Why has Drake Maye been able to execute what Josh McDaniels wants11:30 Why don’t other teams want to teach QBs to read coverage?20:00 how many QBs run a hybrid combination concept?24:00 Hoyer goes to the whiteboard to break down the X’s and O’s
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Did the Bills provide a blueprint on how to slow down Drake Maye and the Patriots offense? How will the Ravens scheme for Sunday? Phil Perry breaks down all that, and talks with Kayshon Boutte about how he can help Drake Maye against man coverage.0:00 What we learned from loss to the Bills1:00 Will the Ravens replicate what Bills did to stifle the Patriots offense?7:30 Kayshon Boutte 1-on-114:00 Who’s Next?!20:00 Next Pats mailbag
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Phil Perry welcomes Tyler Dunne of GoLongFootball.com to preview this week’s huge matchup between the Patriots and the Buffalo Bills. They discuss whether Drake Maye is already approaching Josh Allen’s quarterback tier and what it could mean if the Bills once again fall short of the Super Bowl. Then, Phil highlights two college players to watch during this year’s bowl season and opens the mailbag to answer your questions. 4:20- Tyler Dunne explains why Drake Maye has already caught up to Josh Allen’s level as a QB6:20- How are Bills fans handling the resurgence of the Patriots this season?9:20- Will there be major changes in Buffalo if the Bills once again fail to make the Super Bowl?12:50- What should we expect in Sunday’s matchup?17:00- Phil takes a look at a pair of college football players who may be on New England’s radar next spring21:50- Phil opens up the mailbag to answer your questions
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The Patriots head into the bye week with an 11-2 record, but how can they improve with their week off? Phil Perry breaks down the areas of focus for the team. Later, Dane Brugler checks in with his latest 2026 NFL mock draft and discusses some options for the Patriots next season. 1:00-Are the Patriots motivated by the “nobody believed in us”?4:30-Why haven’t teams been able to slow down Drake Maye?12:30-Will there be tweaks coming to the Patriots rushing attack?18:00-Dane Brugler talks 2026 NFL Draft
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I absolutely love Dante! He's so ready for any questions, plus always adding something we didn't know or maybe don't remember. Great interview as usual