The Rookie Pastors Podcast
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© Bryan Cawley, Kyle Nieman, Josh Prince, and Dustin Slaton
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Casual Conversations about Real Ministry by Real Pastors
19 Episodes
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In this episode of Rookie Pastors, the hosts discuss their summer experiences and delve into the recent rebranding attempt by Cracker Barrel, which sparked controversy and backlash. They share personal 'Cracker Barrel moments' from their ministry, reflecting on changes that were met with resistance. The conversation emphasizes the importance of communication, evaluation, and learning from failure in church leadership. The hosts highlight that while change can be uncomfortable, it often leads to growth and deeper understanding of the congregation.
In Episode 18, hosts Dustin, Kyle, and Josh dive into the challenge of raising the bar in ministry areas without causing burnout or discouragement. How do you evaluate what’s working, what needs to change, and how to bring people along in the process?We share practical strategies for leading well through improvement, offering encouragement and vision while helping ministry teams grow and thrive. If you're looking to take your church's ministries to the next level in a healthy, sustainable way, this conversation is for you.
In Episode 17, hosts Josh, Dustin, and Bryan tackle a practical but often overlooked topic: how pastors can lead their churches in managing facilities well—especially when dealing with aging buildings.From updating aesthetics and improving curb appeal to making the most of limited budgets and volunteer help, we share realistic strategies for stewarding church spaces in a way that reflects excellence, hospitality, and mission.Whether your building is decades old or just in need of a refresh, this episode offers helpful tips and encouragement for making the most of what you’ve got.
In Episode 16, hosts Kyle, Josh, and Bryan explore how pastors can lead their churches to actively engage with their communities. We dive into practical strategies for casting vision, creating opportunities, and leading by example when it comes to outreach and local involvement.If you’re looking for ways to help your church step outside its walls and make a meaningful impact, this episode is full of helpful insights and encouragement.
In this episode, hosts Bryan and Josh have an honest conversation about navigating personal struggles while continuing to lead in ministry. As pastors, we’re often expected to be strong for others—but what happens when we’re the ones wrestling with mental, emotional, or spiritual challenges?We talk through practical ways to care for your own well-being while still faithfully serving, how to seek support, and why vulnerability and balance are key to long-term health in ministry.
In this episode, hosts Josh, Kyle, and Dustin dive into what it means to care for your church during difficult seasons. Whether it’s a crisis, conflict, or uncertainty, pastors and church leaders are called to shepherd well through it all. We discuss practical ways to show care for your congregation while also prioritizing your own spiritual and mental health in the process.Ministry isn’t easy, but you don’t have to navigate tough seasons alone. Join us for this honest and encouraging conversation!
In this episode, hosts Kyle, Josh, and Bryan explore the power of delegation in pastoral leadership. Why is delegation so essential for healthy ministry? What happens when pastors try to do everything themselves? We dive into the importance of empowering others, building healthy teams, and avoiding the common pitfalls that come when delegation is neglected—both for the pastor and the church.If you’ve ever struggled with letting go or wondered how to lead more effectively by equipping others, this conversation is for you.
All four hosts—Kyle, Dustin, Josh, and Bryan—are together for a roundtable discussion on what it’s like stepping into the "big chair" as a pastor for the first time. From the challenges of leadership to the unexpected lessons learned along the way, we share personal experiences, insights, and practical advice for those navigating their first pastoral role. Whether you're a new pastor, aspiring leader, or just curious about the transition into ministry leadership, this conversation is for you!
In this episode, hosts Dustin, Josh, and Bryan dive into an important yet often overlooked topic:maintaining spiritual health as a pastor. Ministry can be demanding, and it’s easy for pastors to pour into others while neglecting their own spiritual well-being. We discuss practical ways to stay spiritually refreshed, avoid burnout, and cultivate a deep, personal walk with Christ while leading others.
In this episode, hosts Dustin and Bryan are joined by special guest Jonathan Smith, Director of Church Health and Growth with Texas Baptists, as we wrap up our three-part series on casting vision. This week, we dive into the crucial step of communicating the vision—how to share it effectively, inspire others, and create lasting momentum in the church. Whether you're a pastor, ministry leader, or simply passionate about church growth, this conversation is packed with insights to help you lead with clarity and purpose.
In this episode, we explore how pastors can discern if their church is ready for a new vision. From recognizing signs of readiness to addressing potential resistance, we share practical advice and insights to help pastors lead their congregations through transformative change.
In this special Christmas episode, all four hosts come together for a fun gift exchange and an honest conversation about navigating the unique challenges and joys of the holiday season as pastors.
In this episode, Josh, Kyle, and Dustin kick off a 3-part series on casting vision for church revitalization. They begin by exploring how to prepare a church for change, sharing practical steps and insights to lay a strong foundation for transformation.Recommended Resources:Leading Major Change in Your Ministry-Jeff Iorg: https://amzn.to/49qmxhXTo Dream Again-Robert Dale: https://amzn.to/3OO2oc4Church Planting is for Wimps-Mike McKinley: https://amzn.to/3D8s9BcWho Moved my Pulpit-Thom Rainer: https://amzn.to/41nMU5V
In this episode, Josh, Kyle, and Dustin discuss the challenges of handling conflict as pastors, sharing strategies and personal experiences on leading through difficult conversations and building unity in the church.Check out this episodes mentioned resource: The Reluctant Peacemaker by Bruce McCoy https://amzn.to/48XVuu7
Join Dustin, Josh, and Kyle as they dive into their weekly routines for sermon prep and share insights on how they approach planning a sermon calendar for the year ahead.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Talk Like Ted by Carmine Gallo: https://amzn.to/3YrmRaYOn Preaching by HB Charles: https://amzn.to/3Yq8Yd3Preaching that Moves People by Yancy Arrington: https://amzn.to/3YL2ya0Power in the Pulipt by Jerry Vines & Jim Shaddix: https://amzn.to/40m8hEkGrasping God's Word by Scott Duvall & Daniel Hays: https://amzn.to/3UAbuwa
A challenge for every pastor is maintaining the balance between family life and ministry life. Both take time, and neither fit within a "normal" schedule. Josh, Bryan, and Dustin give some insights into how the rookie pastor can set some boundaries to fulfill their ministry and lead their family well.
In this episode, Kyle, Josh, and Bryan reflect on their first year as pastors. They share candid stories about the ups, downs, and unexpected challenges they faced as they navigated their new roles in ministry.
In Episode 3, join Bryan, Kyle, and Dustin as they discuss the importance of relationships in the early days of your ministry at the church, how being there in a time of crisis can strengthen your role as Pastor, and learning how to steward the leadership capital that you gain.
In this first episode of the Rookie Pastors Podcast, you'll meet the hosts and hear the heart behind why we feel like this podcast is needed. We welcome you into our circle so that you know you're NOT alone in this thing called pastoral ministry.
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