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Work-life balance isn’t a myth—it’s a mission. At The Double Win Podcast we believe that ambitious, high-growth individuals can experience personal and professional fulfillment simultaneously. Hosted by the creators of the Full Focus Planner, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller, The Double Win Podcast is your go-to resource for unlocking secrets to productivity, wellness, and work-life balance. 

The Double Win Podcast features insightful weekly conversations with thought leaders, executives, and entrepreneurs sharing fascinating personal stories and actionable ideas for balancing professional success with personal well-being. Whether you're looking for motivation to achieve your goals or strategies to harmonize your career and life, The Double Win Podcast provides the perspectives and tools you need.

Michael and Megan focus on the nine domains of life—body, mind, and spirit, love, family, community, money, work, and hobbies—offering practical advice to help you thrive. Discover how to integrate purposeful productivity and overall wellness into your daily routine, stay motivated, and experience a life of joy and significance. Hit subscribe and embark on your journey to winning at work and succeeding at life.



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What if the key to thriving isn’t managing your circumstances perfectly—but rooting yourself in the connections that matter most? In this heartfelt conversation, Michael and Megan talk with Elizabeth Oldfield, author of Fully Alive, about reclaiming depth, community, and soul-level steadiness in a culture addicted to speed and distraction. Elizabeth draws on ancient wisdom, modern insight, and her own experience living in intentional community to offer a hopeful path forward.Memorable Quotes“You need to put your roots down deep into love and work out how to find some steadiness.”“When we are honest about our full humanity, we give other people permission to do that, and that's a necessary starting point for actually growing up our souls rather than pretending that we all know what we’re doing and we’re holding it all together.”“Where we put our attention is essentially who we become.”“I have this sense that fully aliveness is in connection, deep connection, horizontally and vertically.”“Hurrying and destruction are not how we flourish, and we’re constantly being encouraged to do those things. So we need to provide some counter pressure towards slowness and steadiness and presence.”Key TakeawaysConnection Is the Core of Flourishing. Relationships—messy, costly, inconvenient—are where we become more fully human.Attention Shapes Who You Become. Distraction isn’t just a nuisance; it’s a soul-shaping force. Guard your focus.Structure Time Around Your Values. A “rule of life” puts what matters most in place first, so the rest fits around it.Commitment Fuels Depth. Vulnerability without commitment fizzles; together they form lasting community.Ancient Practices Still Work. Sabbath, liturgy, and shared rhythms anchor us in what endures.ResourcesFully Alive by Elizabeth OldfieldThe Sacred podcast by Elizabeth OldfieldWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/-anckhHSdHMThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
After experiencing burnout and adrenal fatigue, author and entrepreneur Chris Ducker realized hustling harder wasn’t the answer. He gets candid about burnout, recovery, and why joy-filled practices are essential for leaders who want to last. Two of his favorites: bonsai gardening and birdwatching. He also makes a compelling case for getting outside. It’s a refreshing invitation back to an embodied, sustainable way of life.Memorable Quotes“I hadn't necessarily been burning the candle on both ends. But what I had been doing was a little too much of pretty much everything.”“You don't need to break in order to take a break.”“Self-care actually is a strategy, and it's a strategy that you can use to your advantage, particularly from a business owner standpoint.”“Ultimately you're the engine, you're the spark, you're the difference maker. But even engines need a little maintenance.”“Hobbies, particularly creative hobbies, if you spend a minimum of two hours a week on your hobby, you will be as much as 30% more productive in your work.”“Any kind of success that costs you your health or your family or your joy isn't really actually success.”“We want that big win, that big roar. And you only get that by being really consistent and the real game here is patience. It's consistency, it's showing up when it's not sexy, when it's not flashy, it's doing the unsexy work.”Key TakeawaysBurnout Isn’t Just Overwork. Stress from life, context, and even unsustainable pace can take you down. Your body always keeps the score.Self-Care Is Strategy. Leaders last when they guard their health and energy—because even engines need maintenance.Hobbies Heal. Joyful pastimes don’t just prevent burnout; they restore creativity and can boost productivity by up to 30%.Step Outside. Just 15 minutes in nature can reset your mind and body. Make it nonnegotiable.Small Shifts, Big Change. Consistent micro moves compound into lasting transformation.ResourcesThe Long Haul Leader by Chris DuckerYoupreneur communityWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/GOLw7Vz4kRAThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
If your conversations are starting to feel more like combat, you’re not alone. In this powerful episode, Michael and Megan sit down with Jefferson Fisher—trial attorney, social media sensation, and author of The Next Conversation—to talk about the small shifts that create major breakthroughs in communication. From regulating your nervous system to choosing connection over triumph, this episode is packed with practical, actionable tools you can use today.Memorable Quotes“When you set out to win an argument, you often will lose the relationship. If you only see it as something to win, that means you’re going to lose a lot more.”“Who wants to be around the person who always has to be right? That is somebody who is lonely.”“Instead of seeing arguments as something to win, you see them as something to unravel.”“You don’t have to like it. You just gotta understand it.”“That’s the key with connection: I can disagree with you and still connect with you. I can still be unhappy, I can still be mad at you, and still connect with you.”“You are in complete control of the pace of the conversation.”“When you don’t say it with control, you end up reacting rather than responding. It’s just your natural fight or flight will take over and you’re going to start responding more emotionally.”“You gotta let them pour it all out before they’ll ever be willing to accept anything that you say.”Key TakeawaysArguments Aren’t Battles. If your goal is to win, you’ve already lost. Reframe arguments as something to unravel, not conquer.Start With Self-Control. Nervous system regulation is the key to effective communication—especially when things get tense.Use “Small Talks.” Short, verb-based phrases like “be still” or “practice kindness” can center you in high-stakes conversations.Connection > Agreement. We don’t always have to be on the same page to cultivate a meaningful relationship.Confidence Follows Action. Speak with assertiveness, not apology. Confidence grows as you use your voice.ResourcesThe Next Conversation: Argue Less, Talk MoreJefferson Fisher on InstagramThe Jefferson Fisher PodcastWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/kJsQe3S3rw0This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
What do you do when business feels hard—and you assume it’s your fault? In this raw and rich conversation, Michael and Megan sit down with Dave Ramsey to talk about what really goes into building a business that lasts. Drawing from his 30+ year journey with Ramsey Solutions, Dave shares stories of failure, clarity, succession, and the slow handoff of legacy—along with what most founders get wrong about growth. If you’ve ever felt behind, discouraged, or unsure how to lead your business into the future, this episode will show you the next light on the path.Memorable Quotes“The dirty little secret is: Everyone’s money is messed up.”“As long as I can clearly see the next step, it gives me tremendous energy and focus and hope.”“We’ve learned with all the bruises to look for the next thing but not to sell out to it.”“You gotta change the word. The word is: I experimented. I didn’t fail.”“You give other people the credit when things are right and take the hit when things are wrong. Because it is your job as the leader.”“People are our greatest blessing and they also give us the most trouble.”“I have to constantly stop and say: Let them do it. You did hand it off. Don’t take it back. They’re doing okay.”Key TakeawaysBusiness Is Hard. If you’re a small business owner struggling to make it all work, you’re in really good company. The struggle is normal, and you’re not alone.Cut Through the Fog. You don’t need to know the whole path. You just need enough clarity to light your next steps.Good News: You’re the Problem. If your business is stuck, look in the mirror. That’s not shame—it’s a solvable problem.Succession Starts Now. Planning for legacy doesn’t mean you’re quitting. It means you’re a good steward. Whether you have five team members or 500, the time to start is now.ResourcesBuild a Business You Love by Dave RamseyThe Ramsey ShowRamsey Solutions EntreLeadershipWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/oOoV5G1Zi8EThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
What if the answer to your overwhelm isn’t a new planner or app—but a walk around the block, a shared meal, or a Saturday spent gardening? In this episode, Michael and Megan sit down with Arthur Boers, author of Living into Focus and Shattered, to talk about the kind of practices that help us resist the pressure of a hyperconnected world and even heal from generational trauma by reconnecting to what matters most. If you’ve ever longed to feel more grounded, whole, or present, this conversation will give you the language—and tools—you’ve been missing.Memorable Quotes“Technoloy itself is not the problem. Technology is human manipulation of nature for human priorities… The question is: Do we master technology or does technology master us?”“What we ought to do is raise the thresholds against things that are not the priority… And then the other thing is lower the threshold for things that are your priorities."“Focal practice is just helping us reclaim things that we knew or did before and helping us prioritize them, helping us have a different perspective on them.”“Compassion is the way forward. It doesn’t help to school people who are struggling with these things—but to listen to them with patience and kindness and compassion can, in fact, make a difference.”“Focal practices are about getting away from just acting automatically. That’s how I was raised: If you act automatically, it’s right. You’re justified… I’ve had to unlearn that.”“It means a willingness to live with ambiguity and to live with pain and to live with things that aren’t resolved and hold there—that’s a hard learning.”Key TakeawaysFocal Practices Are More Than Habits. Focal practices aren’t just routines—they’re meaningful rhythms that require intentionality, foster connection, and reorient us to what matters most.Technology Calls For Discernment. Technology isn’t going anywhere—but the way we engage with it should be thoughtful. The key to balance? Honest conversations in community.We Need Yellow Lights. In a culture of nonstop green lights (and plenty of red-light alarmism), we need more yellow lights—space to pause, reflect, and consider what’s truly right for the moment.Brake Your Enthusiasm. Eager to dive headfirst into focal practices? That’s your cue to slow down. Start small, stay consistent, and let the benefits build over time.An Unexpected Path to Healing. Focal practices don’t just bring focus—they can bring healing. By creating spaces of safety, embodiment, and rhythm, they can support recovery from trauma and help us move toward greater wholeness.ResourcesLiving into Focus by Arthur BoersShattered: A Memoir by Arthur BoersThe Way is Made by Walking by Arthur BoersArthurBoers.comWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/ypJvOm0z8IUThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
What if your health breakthrough doesn’t start in the gym or the kitchen—but in your mind?In this powerful conversation, Michael and Megan sit down with Dr. Josh Axe to explore why so many people feel stuck in cycles of stress, illness, or plateau—and how to shift toward real, lasting wellness. Drawing from his background in functional medicine and personal experience with a life-altering spinal infection, Dr. Axe shares the most overlooked key to healing and how you can start applying it today.Memorable Quotes“The number one determining factor of longevity for you is having strong relationships.”“If you wake up first thing in the morning and get outside, it’s one of the single greatest things you can do for longevity and your microbiome.”“This is all about training your nervous system and encouraging your body that ‘This is going to happen.’”“There’s a lot of people that win at all costs, but they never end up winning. We hear all the stories. They’re never truly winning.”Key TakeawaysThe Biology of Belief. What you believe about your body impacts everything from gut function to recovery speed. Healing starts with mindset.The Root of the Issue. Many chronic health challenges are driven by unresolved trauma—and show up in unexpected places like digestion and fatigue.The Power of Visualization. Mentally rehearsing health and healing isn’t “woo-woo”—it’s neuroscience.Top Four Longevity Habits. Hear from an expert what four rituals can add years to your life.ResourcesThink This, Not That by Dr. Josh AxeDrAxe.comAncient NutritionYou Are the Placebo by Dr. Joe DispenzaWatch on Youtube at:  https://youtu.be/2-dvOt-zcdMThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
What is a calling? How does it shape our work and life? What’s the hidden cost of pursuing it (and what can we do about it)? In this engaging, high-energy conversation, Michael and Megan sit down with Dr. Arianna Molloy—calling researcher, author, and professor—to unpack the power and pitfalls of purpose-driven work.Arianna reveals the four key elements of a true calling, practical safeguards to prevent burnout, and three concrete shifts anyone in any field can make to start experiencing a greater sense of purpose and meaning at work.  She also explains why humility—not just passion—is the key to sustainable success. If you’ve ever struggled to balance meaningful work with a healthy life, this episode is a must-listen.Memorable Quotes“Burnout from a calling isn’t just, ‘I don’t know what I’m doing anymore.’ It’s, ‘I don’t know who I am anymore.’”“To learn how to rest well, to learn how to have good boundaries actually protects that healthy sense of your calling.”“It is so important that work is not all that you have and all that you are because, guess what? At the end of the day, [your work] is going to change and shift… If we hold that with a closed hand, it’s not going to go well.”“[Calling is] really relational. It’s a relationship with yourself, the caller, and it’s a relationship with the community that you impact.”“Most of the time, [calling] happens upon reflection… In the moment, it’s not so obvious. This subtle sense of peace, or just a feeling like, ‘I think this is right.’”“We don’t honor that need and importance of play as much as we could.”“The lynchpin is humility. Part of humility is the willingness to learn more, to know that you don’t know everything and that is not a threat—it’s actually exciting.”Key TakeawaysThe Bright and Dark Sides of Calling. A strong sense of purpose can fuel motivation, but without boundaries, it can also lead to burnout and identity loss.The Four Elements of a True Calling. Calling isn’t just about passion—it requires meaning, an identified caller, skill development, and a connection to community.How to Reframe Your Work. Even if your current job doesn’t feel like a calling, job crafting—adjusting your tasks, relationships, or mindset—can create a deeper sense of meaning.The Role (and Definition) of Humility. True calling requires both confidence in your strengths and an openness to growth and makes it possible to step away from work without guilt.The Power of Rest. Sustainable success isn’t just about doing more—it’s about recognizing your limits and practicing the right kind of rest to restore energy and creativity.ResourcesHealthy Calling by Arianna MolloyArianna Molloy’s WebsiteConnect on LinkedInWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/upMwbYdyViwThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
Entrepreneurship promises freedom—but it also comes with a unique set of challenges that many don’t talk about. In this episode, The Double Win Show welcomes Bryan and Shannon Miles, co-founders of Belay and the nonprofit O’nr, to pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a thriving business without losing yourself in the process.From hiring their first virtual assistant in 2011 (who later became CEO!) to navigating the emotional weight of selling a business, Bryan and Shannon share their hard-won lessons on leadership, transitions, and making decisions that align with your values.Memorable Quotes“Here’s the magic phrase: ‘In order to be faithful to my existing commitments, I have to say no.’”“I am responsible for myself and my leadership. And I know that if I extend myself too far, I’m not the best version of who I want to be.”“If I’m saying yes to everything and I’m overcommitting and my schedule is absolutely full, there’s no space for creativity. There’s no space for dreaming. There’s no space for new ideas or realizations.”“A lot of business owners are lonely, actually isolated.”“As leaders, part of our job is just kind of to help people settle and know they’re safe.”“Stewardship is just simply managing something for a season of time… While we’re there with our employees and leaders, we’re stewarding our relationships with them.”Key TakeawaysThe Loneliness of Leadership. If you’re feeling isolated as a business owner, there’s good news: You’re not the only one.The Skill of Saying No. Implement this mental shift to help you stop overcommitting without the guilt.Getting Buy-In For Change. What leaders get wrong when making major business changes—and what to do to help your team ride the wave.Living Your Priorities Today. Why Bryan and Shannon took a vacation nine months after starting a business—and the opportunity that followed.The Operator/Owner Difference. Are you owning a business or trapped in it?ResourcesBelay SolutionsO’nrNoFo BrewWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/pGdaYmIJPHkThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
We all know that habits shape our lives. But which habits actually matter? In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael and Megan sit down with Dr. Andrew Abella, founding dean of the Bush School of Business and author of Superhabits, to discuss a framework for building a flourishing life. Andrew shares how ancient wisdom, backed by modern science, reveals the core virtues that drive success—and how anyone can develop them. If you’ve ever wondered where to start when it comes to personal growth, this episode is your answer.Memorable Quotes“Cultivating self discipline is not about stifling a desire. It’s about redirecting it gently into a more productive direction.”“There is a specific set of habits that is far superior.”“Vitrues are specific habits of excellence.”“Every [virtue] all of us have inside us. They just need to be activated… by practicing them.”“There’s a freedom that comes from growing in self-discipline, because instead of being a prey to whatever desire that you have, you’re in charge.”“For an adult who’s looking at harmless social media, the problem is you are wasting your desire to know on stuff that is not going to help you.”Key TakeawaysThe Four Pillars of Success. Prudence, justice, courage, and self-discipline form the foundation of a flourishing life, shaping how we think, act, and grow.The “Which Habit?” Problem. Most habit books focus on how to build habits, but the real challenge is knowing which habits will lead to lasting success.The Power of Restraint. Simple acts of restraint—like pausing before reacting or delaying instant gratification—build your no muscle for the other areas of life.The Role of Leisure. True rest isn’t about doing nothing—it’s about engaging in activities that refresh the mind and restore creativity.ResourcesSuperhabits by Dr. Andrew AbelaSuperhabits SubstackGrowVirtue (The SuperHabits App)The Anatomy of Virtue GraphicAndrew Abela’s LinkedInWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/RAJeu68fIJ4This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael and Megan sit down with bestselling author Jay Papasan to talk about the secret to extraordinary success: focus. Jay unpacks why most people struggle with distraction, how to create an environment for deep work, and why small, consistent actions lead to massive results over time.Memorable Quotes“Our focus muscle depends on how long we’ve been using it and how much distraction we have to deal with every day.”“If it’s important enough, it belongs on my calendar.”“When you get really good at your one thing, you don’t just get many results. Your impact gets larger and larger over time.”“Extraordinary starts this way: It starts small and it grows so much faster than we can imagine.”“There’s two groups of people in life: doers who don’t have space to dream and dreamers who don’t have space to do.”“It creates anxiety and fear because it matters. We don’t want to fail at the things that matter most to us.”“Our culture rewards busy people who move fast and get things done.”“It should always be situational. When do we need to be fast? When do we need to be slow?”“If you’re going to do something extraordinary, it’s not going to be because you did millions of things. It’s going to be because you did that thing and the handful of things that matter around it extraordinarily well.”“Everything in life that matters happens pretty slowly.”Key TakeawaysThe Focus Bunker: How to design a workspace that protects your attention so you can do your best workThe Domino Effect: The science behind tiny actions that lead to exponential growthThe Myth of Busyness: Why getting a lot done doesn’t mean you’re moving forward (and what does)The Value of Slow: How taking your time can actually speed up your success—and why the best things take timeRituals for High Performance: Small habits that make big results inevitable (and how you can implement them today.)ResourcesThe One Thing by Gary Keller & Jay PapasanThe One Thing PodcastWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/UnMEk4qAJcwThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller chat with Rich Litvin, bestselling author of The Prosperous Coach and sought-after leadership coach. Rich unpacks how leaders can embrace self-awareness, tackle work addiction, and redefine success by asking one simple but life-changing question: “What do you want?”Memorable Quotes“Most of success is actually about mining your past.”“No one really remembers a comfortable life.”“My favorite coaching question is the simplest one. It’s: What do you want? Especially if you’re really good at helping other people, it’s actually really hard to answer for yourself.”“The most underrated skill in leadership is self-awareness.”“The power of great coaching is that you can see things that others can’t see. And you’re bold enough to say what others won’t dare to say.”“I don’t need to be better at what they do than they are. They’re the best in the planet at what they do. I’m the one who’s bold enough to challenge their thinking.”“If your heart tells you to say this to do this, then you need to lean into that edge, even if it’s to start off by saying, ‘Hey, I feel a little bit nervous to say this.’”“If you’re addicted to alcohol, to drugs, to sex, to the internet, there’s all sorts of help you can get to support you. If you’re addicted to work, everything is set up to support you in doing more of it.”“You need things that nurture your spirit. And as much as doing work that you love can feel great, it doesn’t always nurture your soul.”“We’re not stronger than that algorithm. We can’t be. So we need ways to support.”Key TakeawaysAsk “What Do You Want?” This simple yet powerful question unlocks clarity and reveals what truly matters.Self-Awareness Fuels Success. Great leaders reflect on their actions and embrace honest feedback to grow.Energy Drives Achievement. Identify what energizes or drains you to create more capacity for meaningful work.Growth Comes From Discomfort. The most fulfilling moments come when you step outside your comfort zone.Presence Nourishes the Soul. Activities like walking, reading, or connecting with loved ones demand your full attention and lead to greater fulfillment.Community Accelerates Growth. Honest, supportive relationships amplify self-awareness and help you thrive.ResourcesRich Litvin’s Website: richlitvin.comThe Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve ChandlerRich Litvin’s 1 Insight PodcastWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/-xmywu_fDi0This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller interview Ian Morgan Cron, bestselling author, psychotherapist, and Episcopal priest. Ian shares insights from his new book, The Fix, offering a fresh perspective on how the 12 Steps can transform lives—even for those who don’t identify as addicts. This episode dives into universal human struggles, addressing how we numb pain, avoid truth, and search for solutions in all the wrong places.Memorable Quotes“Trying to solve an inside problem with an outside solution doesn’t work.”“Human beings are always on the prowl for a fix, looking for something to distract or numb the big ache of what it means to be simply human.”“All human beings are fundamentally restless.”“The whole point of the 12-step program is to facilitate a spiritual awakening of sufficient force that it expels the need for external solutions to internal problems.”“Real happiness comes when you make memories in community.”“People get sick in secret. They get well together.”“The three most courageous words in the world are ‘I need help.’”“Powerlessness is a superpower. When you finally admit ‘I am powerless’ or ‘I do not have control over nearly as much of life as I think I do’ suddenly a great, great burden is lifted from your shoulders.”“Ultimately what we want for ourselves and the people we love most is freedom.”“All addicts are frustrated mystics.”“As I’ve kind of unraveled the codependency addiction that I had, I’ve realized that I have to just be okay with people not changing. I want them to change. I pray for them to change. But they have to want it.”“Your addiction is just a bad solution to a very real problem.”“The number one addiction? Playing God.”Key TakeawaysThe Big Ache: Everyone carries a longing—an ache—for more. When unmet, it often leads to unhealthy patterns like workaholism, social media scrolling, or compulsive busyness.A Plan for Transformation: The 12 Steps offer a simple yet profound roadmap to freedom and flourishing, focusing on making peace with God, yourself, and others.Addiction Looks Different for High Achievers: Addiction isn’t always dramatic. For leaders and professionals, it might show up as perfectionism, control, or overworking.Healing Happens in Community: Isolation perpetuates pain; healing requires connection.Surrender Leads to Freedom: Admitting powerlessness isn’t failure—it’s the beginning of true transformation.ResourcesThe Fix by Ian Morgan CronIan Morgan Cron’s Website: ianmorgancron.comWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/ZA73bOupPL8This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Megan Hyatt Miller delivers a powerful and heartfelt keynote about her journey as CEO of Full Focus. She candidly shares the lessons she’s learned through leadership challenges, personal growth, and the pursuit of sustainable success.Drawing on her experiences, Megan offers four unconventional keys for success as a leader. Whether you’re a business leader, entrepreneur, or simply someone seeking greater fulfillment, this episode is packed with wisdom to help you align your priorities and grow into the person you’re meant to be.Memorable Quotes“Most worthwhile things are harder and take longer than we think they should… They’re really costly, and often painful, and always testing the limits of our patience.”“These experiences of resistance strengthen the architecture of our character enough to hold the weight of success. Sustainable success demands maturity.”“The hardest problems—the ones that make us want to throw in the towel—are often the exact reason we’re in the room.”“If you could dare to believe it, problems aren’t a bug, they’re a feature—a feature that grows us up.”“You can’t wait until you’ve arrived to start living fully. You have to build the life you want as you go.”“The process of becoming is the best part of being human. That sense of reaching for more, of fulfilling our potential, of growing into the kinds of people our younger selves would admire—that’s the heart of a life well-lived.”Key TakeawaysLess is More. Growth requires focus and patience. Overextending leads to burnout, but prioritizing what truly matters ensures lasting impact.Problems Aren’t Problems. They’re not signs of failure but invitations to grow stronger and wiser. Accept them as part of the process.Keep On Going. Success takes time, persistence, and maturity. Stay committed to the journey, even when it’s hard.Remember What Matters. True fulfillment comes from balancing professional achievements with a thriving personal life.ResourcesThe Miracle Morning by Hal ElrodChef’s Table on NetflixWatch on Youtube at:  https://youtu.be/My97MA_b9KEThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller are joined by Brad Johnson, host of the Do Business Do Life podcast, to discuss how to achieve sustainable success in both work and life even when it means defying industry norms. Brad Johnson discusses his journey from financial advisor to co-founder of Triad Partners, showing how he balances professional success with personal fulfillment. Brad highlights how challenges signal growth, advocating for therapy, humility, and embracing the "infinite game" to thrive in work and life.Memorable Quotes“When all you do is deal with money all day, every day, sometimes people can get consumed by it. The pursuit of it… They accidentally build the prison around themselves that they’re trying to break out of.”“I can’t buy time back. There’s a more valuable asset on the line and it’s time.”“A weekly paycheck is the most addictive drug in the world.”“It’s completely different to be a great business owner than to be a great financial advisor.”“Your differences are your strengths.”“People will not follow volatile leaders.”“Every entrepreneur should be in therapy and that’s whether or not they think they need it.”“The challenge is the reward for going to the next level.”“The biggest thing is if you want to build a business bigger than you, you better focus a ton on vision, a ton on culture.”Key TakeawaysCulture Matters: Businesses often underinvest in culture and vision, which are essential for lasting growth.Redefining Success: Brad shows how to ensure your business serves your life, not dominates it.Integration Over Balance: Treat work and life as partners rather than competitors.Lead by Growing: Personal growth, including therapy, is vital for effective leadership.Relationships First: Strong connections drive fulfillment and business success.ResourcesDo Business Do Life Podcast by Brad JohnsonNot Fade Away by Peter BartonWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/F7s45VRJmfwThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller sit down with Daniel Harkavy, CEO of Building Champions and author of The 7 Perspectives of Effective Leaders. Daniel shares practical strategies for thriving as a leader by first thriving as a person. From setting boundaries to crafting a life plan, his advice will help you create lasting success at work and at home.Memorable Quotes“[Being well-balanced] elevates leadership efficacy because people are making conscious and subconscious decisions about who you are as a person by what they see, what they observe, how you speak, how you feel.”“It’s very difficult to find a place of contentment if you’re playing the competition game.”“I’m not being driven out of a place of scarcity. I’m being driven out of a place of opportunity and out of a burden to help and an opportunity to make a difference.”“Self-leadership always precedes team effectiveness and team effectiveness always precedes organizational impact.”“Management meetings are a lot of telling. Coaching sessions are a lot of asking.”“I think that is what really needs to be at the heart of a coaching leader: It’s not that you are just comfortable with your people being better than you are. You actually desire it.”“A leader’s effectiveness is determined by just two things: The decisions they make and the influence they have.”“My morning routine is my vacation every day. I get a vacation first thing in the morning. I don’t have to wake up early. I get to.”Key TakeawaysSelf-Leadership First: Your effectiveness as a leader begins with how well you lead yourself. This includes setting boundaries and prioritizing personal well-being.Boundaries Enable Freedom: Setting clear boundaries helps leaders avoid burnout and stay fully present in their personal and professional lives.The Power of a Life Plan: Taking time to define what matters most reduces regret and ensures intentional investment in all areas of life.Coaching Leadership: Great leaders empower their teams by asking questions, fostering growth, and prioritizing curiosity over control.Contentment vs. Complacency: Strive for excellence from a place of abundance, not scarcity, by cultivating gratitude and staying grounded in what matters.ResourcesBecoming a Coaching Leader by Daniel HarkavyThe 7 Perspectives of Effective Leaders by Daniel HarkavyLiving Forward by Michael Hyatt and Daniel HarkavyLearn More About Building Champions: buildingchampions.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/buildingchampionsLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/building-championsInstagram: www.instagram.com/buildingchampsPerformance Coaching: www.buildingchampions.com/performance-coachingExecutive Retreats: www.buildingchampions.com/executive-retreatsWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/obYSZ1sTGP8This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller talk with Jon Gordon, bestselling author of The Energy Bus and The Power of Positive Leadership. Jon shares his journey from negativity to a thriving, positive life and the principles he’s developed to help teams and individuals succeed.From practical strategies for fueling positive energy to addressing the root causes of negativity, Jon’s wisdom is a must-hear for leaders striving to win at work and succeed at home.Memorable Quotes“Every one of us is going to have to overcome negativity, adversity, and challenges to ultimately define ourselves and our team's success. And the main message is: You have to overcome negativity with positivity.”“You’re the driver. You decide the kind of ride it’s going to be… It’s all about ownership.”“You write down your success of the day and every night you go to bed a success. Every morning you wake up a success. You’re now creating more and more success because what you focus on starts to show up more in your life.”“The root for the Greek word ‘anxious’ means to separate and divide. And so someone who’s anxious, they feel separate and divided. What does fear do? Divides.”“The change happened when I started to take walks of gratitude every day because I read you can’t be stressed and thankful at the same time.”“You’re not the thoughts you think—you’re the thoughts you believe. Negative thoughts are going to come in all the time. What thoughts are you believing and what stories are you choosing to believe about yourself?”“There’s a feeling that you’re winning [at work and at home] and yet at the same time, you’re probably always going to feel like. ‘What can I do better? And how can I do this more in both places?’ I call it positive discontent.”Key TakeawaysYou’re the Driver: Own your energy and your impact. Leaders set the tone for their teams and must model positivity.Fuel Your Energy Daily: Practices like gratitude walks, journaling, and prayer can help leaders stay energized and engaged.Address Negativity Head-On: Successful leaders confront issues directly, fostering accountability and growth without demeaning their teams.Build Positive Team Cultures: Principles like “No Complaining Without a Solution” and “Love + Accountability” transform how teams function.ResourcesThe Energy Bus by Jon GordonThe Power of Positive Leadership by Jon GordonThe Success Journal by Jon GordonLearn more about Jon Gordon’s work at jongordon.comWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/pr_itESG_GAPodcast:  This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller sit down with leadership expert Carey Nieuwhof to explore the hidden traps of burnout, cynicism, and the tolls of unexamined motivations. Carey dives into his journey from lawyer to pastor to leadership coach, sharing how he’s learned to manage energy and avoid burnout while building an impactful career.Carey’s insights touch on the importance of self-leadership, the dangers of “mid-grade burnout,” and strategies for setting lasting boundaries. The conversation is rich with practical advice for leaders in any field who want to achieve the Double Win—winning at work and succeeding at life.Memorable Quotes“I think unexamined motivations drive you until they destroy you.”“Self-leadership is the ability to heal ourselves, to stay engaged, to stay healthy—everything from avoiding burnout and not becoming the person everyone resents to staying engaged at a meaningful level and avoiding cynicism and pride.”“Just look at the internal battle of a leader, how lonely it is, how you often feel you don’t have anyone to turn to about the personal demons you’re fighting.”“I worked with a lot of lawyers who were really at the top of their game. It was sort of the Wall Street of Canada, right? I realized very early on: Oh, it’s empty up here.”“I think you’ve got to make a decision: I’m going to trust again. I’m going to hope again. I’m going to believe again.”“Cynical people are never curious and curious people are never cynical. They seem to be mutually exclusive.”“That position of feeling numb most days is a big warning sign.”“We’re inundated with too many relationships and we’re overwhelmed, overworked, overcommitted.”“If you’re winning at work and losing at home, you’re losing.”Key TakeawaysSelf-Leadership Matters: Carey explains that leading yourself well is the foundation of effective leadership.The Dangers of Mid-Grade Burnout: While many recognize full-blown burnout, Carey highlights the subtler, persistent signs that show up as disengagement or apathy.Prioritize Close Relationships: Carey describes the power of “3–5 deep friendships” that keep us grounded and resilient.The Antidote to Cynicism: When cynicism creeps in, choosing curiosity can help leaders reconnect and stay energized.Boundaries with Purpose: Categorical decisions (like “no breakfast meetings”) can help protect your peak hours and ensure work doesn’t consume your personal life.ResourcesDidn’t See It Coming by Carey NieuwhofThe Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/lK5NYaZGm3wThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael and Megan Hyatt Miller interview Grant Baldwin, a nationally recognized speaker, author, and founder of The Speaker Lab. Grant shares his journey from burnout to intentionally designing a life centered around balance, freedom, and his core values. The conversation covers topics like the significance of constraints, the importance of overcoming fear, and why it’s essential to design your life instead of just living it by default. Grant's stories and insights make this episode a must-listen for anyone seeking to blend ambition with a meaningful, balanced life.Memorable Quotes“You have to regularly find things where the challenge exceeds the skill set… Over time, the skill set exceeds the challenge and you feel bored and you kind of feel like you’re going through the motions.”“We design in a way that makes sense to say, ‘No, no, you can have your cake and eat it, too.’”“It can’t be this open-ended thing of like, ‘I’ll do anything for anybody anywhere.’”“Don’t act like a victim, saying, ‘In order to fill-in-the-blank, I have to do it this way.’ No, you absolutely do not.”“This is a good life. I’ve got one shot at this thing. And so I want to make sure that a lived it well and I was satisfied with what I did.”“If we are great entrepreneurs, if we’re great speakers, if we’re great authors, if we’re heart fill-in-the-blank, but we drop the ball as husbands, wives, moms, dads—if we’re a shell of a human being, we’re doing it wrong.”Key TakeawaysIntentional Life Design: Your life doesn’t have to follow a set path—design it to fit your values and goals. Be intentional about the decisions you make and the priorities you set.Constraints Create Freedom: Using boundaries to focus your efforts can actually create more opportunities. Grant explains why saying “no” is crucial to living a life that aligns with your values.Facing Fear: Fear isn’t something to be avoided; it’s a sign that you’re about to do something significant. Grant explores how to “borrow courage” on the way to building confidence..Building a Speaking Career: Grant shares a few of his best tips to build a speaking business by clarifying what you want to talk about and who you want to speak to.Coaching & Mentorship: Investing in coaches can accelerate your learning and help you avoid common pitfalls—and it’s been key to Grant’s success.ResourcesGrant Baldwin’s website: The Speaker LabFollow Grant on Instagram: @grantbaldwinBook recommendation: “The Successful Speaker” by Grant BaldwinRelated Episode: Ep. 19, Living Intentionally with Dan MillerWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/Hg1tCFBRoWIThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael and Megan Hyatt Miller sit down with bestselling author and trauma-informed coach, Mastin Kipp, to discuss the profound impact of understanding and regulating the nervous system. Mastin shares insights from his new book, Reclaim Your Nervous System, and explains how unresolved trauma and dysregulation can hinder personal and professional growth.The conversation explores the practical applications of polyvagal theory, co-regulation, and how leaders can foster psychological safety by mastering their own nervous systems. Mastin covers everything from the body's hierarchy of responses to stress (green, yellow, and red states), to the effects of trauma on leadership, parenting, and personal well-being. By learning how to identify and manage these states, listeners can unlock a new level of performance and healing.Memorable Quotes“We have this idea that ‘If I can change my thoughts, I can change my life,’ which is accurate, but there’s a lot going on below the brain that we also want to understand.”“The issue is when we have a neuroceptive mismatch, where I’m in the presence of something dangerous, but I’m not being activated to move. Or I’m not in the presence of danger, but my neuroception is telling me that I am.”“I think of re-regulation as like the bicep curl or the squat. You’re going to get dysregulated automatically. So let’s re-regulate—the re-regulation is the rep.”“If the leader, or CEO, or C-Suite isn’t creating that culture [of safety], then it will fall apart when there are challenges. Just like we need to have a flexible nervous system, we need to have a flexible cultural nervous system to be able to manage the flexible challenges of business also.”“Trauma is any experience of threat, disconnection, isolation, or immobilization that results in the long-term or chronic dysregulation of either your endocrine system, your immune system, your emotional body, your brain, your body, your spirit—your health on any level, basically.”“The problem with successful people and ambitious people is every time we level up, we increase complexity and stress, and those pathways get activated again.”“Stoicism is great for growth. It’s just not great for healing.”Key TakeawaysUnderstanding the Nervous System: The nervous system governs how we experience life. Recognizing when we are in a "fight or flight" state (yellow) or a "shut down" state (red) allows us to make conscious decisions to move back into a "ventral vagal" state (green), where we're most productive and connected.The Power of Co-Regulation: Leaders, parents, and partners all play a role in co-regulating others. Learning how to stay calm and collected can positively influence those around you, fostering a more supportive and effective environment.Trauma’s Role in Leadership: Unresolved trauma can cause leaders to react disproportionately, affecting their teams and overall performance. Recognizing and healing these trauma responses is essential for effective leadership.Reframing Anxiety and Stress: Instead of seeing anxiety as an isolated mental challenge, Mastin explains how it's deeply tied to our physical nervous system and can be addressed by body-based approaches like somatic experiencing.Neuroception and Safety: Our bodies are constantly scanning for safety or danger. Learning to re-regulate when our neuroception is triggered can help us stay present and avoid unnecessary reactions to perceived threats.Reclaim Your Life: Trauma doesn't need to define your future. By understanding your nervous system, you can reclaim your happiness and make progress in all areas of life, from work to personal relationships.ResourcesMastin Kipp on Instagram: @mastinkippMastin Kipp’s Book: Reclaim Your Nervous SystemWatch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/hhMXVMNDCIYThis episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
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Comments (14)

Robyn Rodman

yeah I still think this episode is tone deaf despite your efforts otherwise. taking away the pressure to meet budget is not taking away the opportunity to do something it's taking away the pressure to have to do it when you're just trying to survive. if you can do more that is fantastic you should push people to do the most they can but to expect the same output is stressful to say the least. Not every person deals with stress by getting a high from meeting a goal.

Sep 23rd
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Chris Davey

just had a thought while listening to this excellent podcast: Busyness does not equal usefulness

Apr 30th
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Robyn Rodman

Not my favorite episode. I felt they had great points but didn't represent the reasons why it might be a great choice to give free products or services well. This made it feel like an overreaction to some people who are on the other extreme. Not everyone should give things away, surely. But blanket saying you shouldn't is just throwing the baby out with the bath water in my opinion.

Apr 7th
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Wendy Bau Rolls

Fabulous episodes (Parts 1&2), thank you. I find the Enneagram incredibly useful in all areas of my life. However, I'm curious to know why Suzanne Stabile wasn't credited anywhere in the conversation or the show notes as co-author of The Road Back To You?

Jan 28th
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Kikisabrina5 j

which number can match 8 with the same energy?

Dec 19th
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Fabio Ruiz

Gracias, saludos desde México

Nov 2nd
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Becky Bryant

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Sep 26th
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Niki Torres

loved this episode. going to restart my journalling.

Dec 18th
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Niki Torres

Love the big picture thinking about morning routine and prioritising sleep vs waking up early to workout. I do also think and feel having enough sleep is so much better and have shortened my workouts to get those extra winks.

Nov 16th
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Daniel Adeboye

Would be trying this... Thanks!

May 12th
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Paul O'Brien

Five levels of delegation

Apr 14th
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Miew Yeng Chan

Thank you for the podcast. I can learn and relearn every time I tune into this podcast. Wishing you great success in your work and business so more people can benefit from it.

Feb 17th
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Pavlina Atanasova

I really like this podcast. The hosts interaction is great and the way they talk is relatable and fun. I've listened to other podcasts and some hosts are very salesy and difficult to relate to. Keep up the good work.

Jan 11th
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