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Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike?
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4The writer Ta-Nehisi Coates was harshly critical of my response to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. In an article in Vanity Fair, he suggested I was whitewashing Kirk’s legacy, comparing it to the whitewashing of the Southern cause after the Civil War.So I wanted to have Coates on the show to talk out our disagreement, as well as some deeper questions that I think exist underneath it about the work of politics.What should the left do about the fact that so many Americans share Kirk’s views? What kinds of disagreements should we try to bridge? When is that work moral and necessary, and when is it a betrayal?This episode contains strong language.Mentioned:“Charlie Kirk, Redeemed: A Political Class Finds Its Lost Cause” by Ta-Nehisi CoatesBetween the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates“My President Was Black” by Ta-Nehisi CoatesBook Recommendations:The Brothers by Stephen KinzerRace and Reunion by David W. BlightThe Sirens’ Call by Chris HayesThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find the transcript and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.htmlThis episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Annie Galvin, Kristin Lin, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. Transcript editing by Sarah Murphy. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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This is McCarthyism 2.0. Since Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the Trump administration has been speed-running an attack on the “radical left.” And the tactics it has been using are darkly reminiscent of the Red Scare of the 1940s and ’50s. So what can that period teach us about the current moment and what the Trump administration might do next? How far could this go? Corey Robin is a political theorist at Brooklyn College. He’s an expert on McCarthyism and the author of the book “The Reactionary Mind,” one of the most insightful books you can read on the Trumpist right. In this conversation, he walks through what happened in the first and second Red Scares and what made him start worrying about the Trump administration.This episode contains strong language.Mentioned:Red Scare by Clay Risen“How Democrats Drove Silicon Valley Into Trump’s Arms” by Ross DouthatThe Furies by Arno J. MayerBook Recommendations:On the Slaughter by Hayim Nahman BialikNaming Names by Victor S. NavaskyCitizen Marx by Bruno LeipoldThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find the transcript and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.htmlThis episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Jack McCordick and Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Kelsey Kudak. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota and Isaac Jones. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Rollin Hu, Kristin Lin, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Beverly Gage and Clay Risen.
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The Utah governor is trying to model a different kind of leadership in a very dangerous political moment.The Trump administration seems intent on using the assassination of Charlie Kirk to crack down on what it calls “the radical left.” But Spencer Cox doesn’t believe that suppression will make Americans safer.For years now, Cox has been thinking seriously about our toxic political culture and what the path out of it could be. So I wanted to have him on the show to talk about how he responded in the hours and days after the shooting, what it has left him thinking about and what he thinks we should do now.Mentioned:Politics and Social Change LabBook Recommendations:Our Biggest Fight by Frank H. McCourt, Jr.A Time to Build by Yuval LevinAmerican Covenant by Yuval LevinThe Pursuit of Happiness by Jeffrey RosenThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find the transcript and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.htmlThis episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact checking by Michelle Harris, Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Annie Galvin, Kristin Lin, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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Every Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation about something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike?Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein.Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.“The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Rogé Karma and Jeff Geld; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld.
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Hmmm. Making intellectual sparring great again. Mr. Klein, Mr. Kirk produced hateful, sideshows for fun and grew them into huge, profitable, circuses of hate. If his technique dazzled you so much you had to write about it - well, you be you. It is the Ezra Klein show after all. But admiring and praising that technique, he developed, and honed to make spreading hate great again, while he was being lionized as a martyr landed, for many, as misguided, thoughtless, and strange, as you already know.
wow. Coates and Klein are hashing out all the arguments going around my brain. Great interview. AND for Ohio, yes, the Democratic brand is bad news. As an experiment, what if Sherrod Brown ran as a Republican... take back the Republican party and transform it into the Democratic agenda....??
"Doing politics the right way'?!?!?!?! He antagonized marginalized people with "debate" intended to make them look foolish. That is how he went about gathering support... by united people, in the name of "christ" against common enemies. Do not dare say for a second he was doing politics the right way. It makes you sound like an imbecile.
hard to listen to this one... just breaking my heart
I started writing this note to say I wuz takin a belt of vodkka ever tym th gest sez “oftentimes”
I appreciated this discussion.
"The world is divided into two groups...." That's all we need to know from the vaccuous Shapiro. How anybody could be Influenced by such a moron is beyond. His cynical outlook exemplifies why we are in silos. Not somone I take seriously, in the slightest.
Shapiro is as shallow and disingenuous as ever.
The filibuster screws Dems both when they are and aren't in power. When Ds have power, Reps use it to block popular govt initiatives and then use govt not working to regain power. When Ds are out, Rs propose unpopular cuts and whine when Ds threaten to shut down the govt. When Ds cave to keep things open, their base hates them for not fighting. Only Ds believe in govt helping common people whereas Rs believe govt should get out of rich people's way. Kill the filibuster! Make them own their cuts!
Ok, Ben, let me get this straight. A few people become billionaire Lions solely due to their own hard work and brilliance, and it has absolutely nothing to do with our tax code slanted toward the rich (e.g., carried interest loophole) and other insider advantages. And if you question this idea or suggest that everyone would benefit from living wages and better healthcare, then you're a naughty immoral Scavenger who hates all of Western civilization? Hard pass, bro. You're a shill for the rich.
Pro Palestine protests my man, not 'friends of Hamas protests'. Keep London out of your mouth, Ben Shapiro, you haven't got a clue.
Jesus christ im seven minutes into this shit and you've already let slide obvious lies and propaganda points from Shapiro. he isn't there to debate in good faith, but YOU are so the result is that you're just giving him free advertising. and you expect me to listen to this for two hours? well all I can say is: enjoy the 15 billion dollar lawsuit new york times. that dropped on the same day Ezra Klein decided to become the new Ross Douthat
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Recall no red states or blue states? Was Jan. 6 a gathering of happy Christian nationalist patriots? Why credit one who thinks God gave Jews land based on myths? J.D. you think MAGAs meet your Civil War era test? You abject toady and ass kisser of oligarchs, kiss the graves of my ancestors that founded Plymouth, Salem, and Concord, fought for Independence from a king, and bled at Gettysburg to beat the traitors whose names you would restore to honor as you plot to erase their evil history.
Ezra: What about: 1) attacks by both sides, so lopsided by the allies, on civilians in WW II? These were war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide? 2) In addressing the reasons for Israel continuing to push Gazans into near oblivion without what Sands and you consider a valid justification, you omit Israel's government's belief - God wants it to rule there. Prof. Sands cites ancient ruler's right to ruin & kill at will. A divine right of kings as it has been called, no? End that, how?
The crazy thing about his dumb argument is that the most likely person to work the hardest to achieve the American dream is the immigrant. They start businesses because they tend to be locked out of the mainstream because of language and cultural differences. Their children, however, often become the highest example of a good and hardworking American.
This interviewee's intellectual flabbiness is typical of right wing "thought", as is his refusal to really name his beliefs, circling them instead with fake politeness. As for the extracts from Vance's speech, they are truly terrifying in their false assumptions. Klein calls him out on his bullshit about the peaceful transfer of power being a conservative value and his answer is absolute waffle.
so glad you did this interview, Ezra. much respect to Mahmoud.
Wrong on the facts, wrong on the theory. I found it appalling to hear his excuses for awful things that are being done. Mr. Klein, you did a good job of puncturing them, but he tended to skitter away from the points you were making. At least he and his ideology are revealed. Thank you for that.
This was informative while being concerning... yay?