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Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike?
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1State Representative James Talarico of Texas might have been our most requested guest last year. And he seemed to come out of nowhere.Talarico started breaking through with viral videos on TikTok and Instagram. And in those videos, he didn’t sound like your typical Democrat. He’s forthrightly Christian, quoting Scripture to defend progressive positions and challenging Christian nationalism on Christian grounds. And he is now running for Senate in Texas — in a primary field that includes U.S. Representative Jasmine Crockett — in what will be one of the most important Senate races this year.So I wanted to have Talarico on the show to talk about his faith, his politics and the way those two have come together in this attentional moment. Because he’s clearly saying things that people are hungry to hear.Mentioned:The Sabbath by Rabbi Heschel“#2352 James Talarico”, The Joe Rogan ExperienceCommon Sense by Thomas PaineBook Recommendations:Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtryJesus and the Disinherited by Howard ThurmanThe Upswing by Robert D. Putnam and Shaylyn Romney GarrettThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Marie Cascione. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Kristin Lin, Emma Kehlbeck, Michelle Harris, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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The shocking events of January have sent a message: America works differently now. M. Gessen is a Times Opinion columnist and the author of books about living under autocracy, including the National Book Award-winning “The Future Is History.” They have been a clear, relentless and perceptive voice on what it means and what it is like to live in a country that is turning into a different kind of regime. And they wrote an essay on the seizure of the president of Venezuela, calling it “a blow — quite likely fatal — to the new world order of law, justice and human rights that was heralded in the wake of World War II.” Mentioned:“329 Days of Trump” by Michael M. Grynbaum and Stuart A. Thompson“Two Middle East Negotiators Assess Trump’s Israel-Hamas Deal” by Ezra KleinThe Future Is History by M. GessenBook Recommendations:Tomorrow Is Yesterday by Hussein Agha and Robert MalleyOne Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This by Omar El AkkadThe Hill by Harriet ClarkThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin and Marie Cascione. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota and Isaac Jones. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Rollin Hu, Kristin Lin, Emma Kehlbeck, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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What is America doing in Venezuela?On Jan. 3, the Trump administration launched an operation that ended with the capture of President Nicolás Maduro, who is now in New York City on narcoterrorism and weapons charges. “We’re going to run it, essentially, until such time as a proper transition can take place,” Trump said.Mr. Trump’s policy here is strange for a number of reasons: The U.S. is suffering from a fentanyl crisis, but Venezuela is not known as a fentanyl producer. Venezuela’s oil reserves are not the path to geopolitical power that they might have been in the 1970s. Mr. Maduro was a brutal and corrupt dictator, but Mr. Trump has left his No. 2 in charge. And Mr. Trump ran for office promising fewer foreign entanglements — not more.So why Venezuela, and why now? That’s the question we look at in this conversation.Jonathan Blitzer is a staff writer at The New Yorker. He has profiled Stephen Miller and has been following the U.S. military’s drug boat strikes in the Caribbean, as well as the Trump administration’s evolving agenda in Latin America. He’s also the author of the book “Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here: The United States, Central America, and the Making of a Crisis.Mentioned:Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here by Jonathan BlitzerAlien Enemies Act1979/1980 Refugee ActMonroe Doctrine“How Stephen Miller Manipulates Donald Trump to Further His Immigration Obsession” by Jonathan Blitzer“Who’s Running Venezuela After the Fall of Maduro?” by Jonathan BlitzerBook Recommendations:The Known World by Edward P. JonesWhat You Have Heard Is True by Carolyn ForchéThe Spy and the Traitor by Ben MacintyreThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Jack McCordick. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Kristin Lin, Emma Kehlbeck, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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Every Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation about something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike?Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein.Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.“The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Rogé Karma and Jeff Geld; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld.
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The "ethics of care" vs "ethics of justice" discussion was really insightful, some great concepts. 💡
Democrats always seem so sure that if they say something, like for instance "Trump is hurting government workers and people on welfare by shutting down the government ", and that makes it true. but I don't see it. It was the Republicans who voted over and over again to fund the government and keep it open, and it was the Democrats who refused to allow it. it was the democrats who were quite willing to throw the American people under the bus and hold them hostage just to force their agenda.
This sounds like a hopeful dream to get back to that place where nothing fundamentally changes. democrats need to push progressive policies & implement them effectively WITHIN deep blue places to generate tangible examples of the benefits of those policies. From those deep blue places, it will spread outwards to purple places & eventually to red places, because when people hear feel see & touch the benefits of progressivism (housing, food costs, upward mobility, local improvements) we win.
The Democratic Party lost me when it went for the Malthusian soylent Green New Deal, and proceeded to descend into an ideology consistent with anti-humanism on several fronts (radical pro-abortion, gender bending, war on fossil fuel, etc). People will instinctively vote against policies that erode their living standards, even if they don't understand the ideology behind them. If Democrats want voters, they need to quit making our actuarial statistics worse.
Suzanne Mettler is a profoundly arrogant and stupid person. She brushes-off massive blind spots in her analysis, rendering her book and this episode an unfortunate waste of time. – A Rural Dweller
I am mystified why no one has taken note how plainly and quickly the war ended once Hamas returned the hostages. Hamas could've saved us all the anguish of the hell that the hostages endured in brutal captivity and all loss of life and property that the Gazans have endured by just releasing the hostages earlier. This episode also ignores the stark differences between the hostages, who were brutally kidnapped from their homes, and the Palestinian prisoners, murders of Israelis and Arabs.
Ezra...thank you SO much for instigating this conversation. it lifted, inspired, refreshed and comforted me.
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Coates & Klein want to call Charlie Kirk hateful simply because he had some success at making contray arguments to their world view. Most objective Americans do not see Kirks speeches as being an act of hate. But, people that shoot at people just for saying something they don't like, That's Hateful, likewise, people who express pleasure that someone was shot at who said something they don't agree with, that's hateful too.
Hmmm. Making intellectual sparring great again. Mr. Klein, Mr. Kirk produced hateful, sideshows for fun and grew them into huge, profitable, circuses of hate. If his technique dazzled you so much you had to write about it - well, you be you. It is the Ezra Klein show after all. But admiring and praising that technique, he developed, and honed to make spreading hate great again, while he was being lionized as a martyr landed, for many, as misguided, thoughtless, and strange, as you already know.
"Doing politics the right way'?!?!?!?! He antagonized marginalized people with "debate" intended to make them look foolish. That is how he went about gathering support... by united people, in the name of "christ" against common enemies. Do not dare say for a second he was doing politics the right way. It makes you sound like an imbecile.
I started writing this note to say I wuz takin a belt of vodkka ever tym th gest sez “oftentimes”
I appreciated this discussion.
"The world is divided into two groups...." That's all we need to know from the vaccuous Shapiro. How anybody could be Influenced by such a moron is beyond. His cynical outlook exemplifies why we are in silos. Not somone I take seriously, in the slightest.
Shapiro is as shallow and disingenuous as ever.
The filibuster screws Dems both when they are and aren't in power. When Ds have power, Reps use it to block popular govt initiatives and then use govt not working to regain power. When Ds are out, Rs propose unpopular cuts and whine when Ds threaten to shut down the govt. When Ds cave to keep things open, their base hates them for not fighting. Only Ds believe in govt helping common people whereas Rs believe govt should get out of rich people's way. Kill the filibuster! Make them own their cuts!
Ok, Ben, let me get this straight. A few people become billionaire Lions solely due to their own hard work and brilliance, and it has absolutely nothing to do with our tax code slanted toward the rich (e.g., carried interest loophole) and other insider advantages. And if you question this idea or suggest that everyone would benefit from living wages and better healthcare, then you're a naughty immoral Scavenger who hates all of Western civilization? Hard pass, bro. You're a shill for the rich.
Pro Palestine protests my man, not 'friends of Hamas protests'. Keep London out of your mouth, Ben Shapiro, you haven't got a clue.
Jesus christ im seven minutes into this shit and you've already let slide obvious lies and propaganda points from Shapiro. he isn't there to debate in good faith, but YOU are so the result is that you're just giving him free advertising. and you expect me to listen to this for two hours? well all I can say is: enjoy the 15 billion dollar lawsuit new york times. that dropped on the same day Ezra Klein decided to become the new Ross Douthat