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Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.


Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.


This isn’t a spiritual podcast.
This isn’t a marketing platform.


No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.


We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.


Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.


Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.


If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.


If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.


New episodes every two weeks.

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Before LSD became a symbol of the 1960s counterculture, it was a laboratory compound, an experimental psychiatric medicine, and a potential weapon in the eyes of American intelligence agencies. How did one substance become so many different things? In this episode of Divergent States: The Unofficial r/Psychonaut Podcast, 3L1T3 and Bryan welcome investigative journalist Martin A. Lee, co-author with Bruce Shlain of Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyo...
Magic mushrooms may have one of the strangest histories of any psychedelic. They have been connected to prehistoric Europeans, Druids, Vikings, ancient mystery cults, shamans, witches, and even Santa Claus. But how much of that history can we actually prove? In the first installment of our History of Psychedelics series, we sit down with Andy Letcher, author of Shroom: A Cultural History of the Magic Mushroom, to separate the documented history of psilocybin mushrooms from the mythology that ...
What evidence should justify placing a psychedelic substance in Schedule I, and what happens to research when those restrictions take effect? Attorney Robert T. Rush joins 3L1T3 and Bryan to discuss the DEA’s proposal to schedule five tryptamines: 4-OH-DiPT, 5-MeO-AMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 5-MeO-DET, and DiPT. Rush explains his objections to the government’s evidence, the potential consequences for researchers, and his work defending cognitive liberty. We also revisit the disputed use of Reddit posts ...
When a psychedelic experience feels profoundly true, does that mean it actually tells us something true? Danny Forde, author of Phenomenology of Psychedelic Experiences, joins Divergent States to explore what happens when we take psychedelic experience seriously as an experience rather than reducing it entirely to brain activity or hallucination. We start with phenomenology itself: what it means to examine consciousness from the standpoint of experience, and why psychedelics may offer an unus...
What if one of the biggest things missing from the modern psychedelic conversation isn't another drug, therapy, or clinical protocol, but community? In this episode of Divergent States, 3L1T3 sits down with Mike Margolies of the Global Psychedelic Society, a worldwide network connecting hundreds of local psychedelic communities. They explore what community can provide that a clinic can't, and why problems like isolation, addiction, depression, and trauma can't always be understood solely at t...
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