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Before My Head Explodes with Vince Russo
Before My Head Explodes with Vince Russo
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Vince Russo's "Before My Head EXPLODES" is a 30 minute, twice a week podcast, where the most polarizing and contraversial man in the history of sports entertainment will rant, rave and rapid-fire his honest opinions on everything from pop culture, current news, entertainment, sports, music and whatever else is twisting his mind and burning his tongue! Real, dynamic, hard-hitting and oh yeah---NO MAMBY-PAMBYS allowed!
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Full Podcast Summary / Notes (Timestamped)
00:01:33 – 00:04:00
The Coachand
Vince Russo
kick off the show by celebrating recent growth in viewership and teasing upcoming content and storylines. The duo discusses winter meetings in MLB and their aspirations to report from major sporting events in future episodes.
00:04:01 – 00:05:20
The Coachtransitions to the WWE-ESPN partnership, spotlighting recent rumors about ESPN’s dissatisfaction.
Vince Russo
analyzes subscriber numbers and revenue expectations, highlighting the disconnect between WWE’s efforts and ESPN's promotional push.
00:05:21 – 00:08:20
Vince Russodelivers a strong critique about WWE’s subpar PPVs performed for their biggest partner, explaining why they could lose the deal.
The Coach
defends ESPN's marketing efforts and shares inside perspectives on what motivated the high-stakes app launch.
00:08:21 – 00:11:09
The conversation shifts to how WWE might be taking advantage of ESPN’s limited wrestling know-how, and the potential consequences for lazy creative output. The duo explores how networks crave live sports, the strategic value of YouTube TV and bundled apps, and the unusual scheduling challenges of PLEs in Saudi Arabia.
00:11:10 – 00:14:17
The Coachand
Vince Russo
dig into Nick Khan’s newfound celebrity and the WWE’s reliance on outside personalities like Pat McAfee and Logan Paul for promotion. They highlight how McAfee’s exit illustrates how WWE can overuse star power for free exposure, often without fair compensation, and how that impacts creative.
00:14:18 – 00:23:22
The hosts reflect on the lack of risk-taking and creative surprises at recent WWE events, particularly Survivor Series.Vince Russo
discusses how backstage culture and guaranteed contracts have led to a “play it safe” mentality, draining excitement from major shows.
00:23:23 – 00:27:36
They analyze missed creative opportunities, including repetitive booking and lack of genuine surprise reveals (e.g., the masked mystery man), making comparisons to other wrestling companies like JCW and TNA, who are "putting in the work" to engage fans.
00:27:37 – 00:32:00
Listener interaction explodes during the Wheel of Doom segment, andThe Coach
shares emotional reflections on the show’s explosive growth. The duo reiterates their philosophy: fans deserve their best every episode.
00:32:01 – 00:40:12
The discussion switches to current WWE locker room culture.The Coach
brings up recent comments from CM Punk and Bayley about today's backstage etiquette: many talent no longer watch the main event or stick around to learn from top stars, a stark contrast with strict traditions from earlier eras.
00:40:13 – 00:45:37
Vince Russoand
The Coach
offer personal stories from their WWE and TNA days, underscoring how respect and learning once dominated locker room life. They question whether Triple H knows about the lack of backstage engagement today, and debate if it's possible for current management to revive old-school etiquette.
00:45:38 – 00:54:34
Show closes with a review of John Cena’s farewell tour and booking predictability, more listener Q&A, and spicy inside details about talent relations, bonus structures, and why the right creative system matters.
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Full Podcast Summary / Notes (Timestamped):
[00:00:18 – 00:04:06] Opening Banter & Show Setup
Welcoming new viewers and explaining participation through Super Stickers and the Wheel of Doom merch giveaway.
The Coach
shares personal news about his son's golf journey and NIL deal.
The dynamic between
The Coach
and
Vince Russo
is established, riffing on punctuality, audience banter, and brand building.
[00:04:06 – 00:10:10] Behind the Curtain: Promoting Friends & Social Media Myths
Addressing accusations of "begging for jobs" and supporting each other's ventures.
The challenges of growing a YouTube brand and helping friends in the business.
Hilarious anecdotes about fans obsessing over a friend's thumb and playful ribbing about DMs.
[00:10:10 – 00:17:44] JCW Investor Drama Revealed
Vince Russo
breaks down the JCW investor swerve and building wrestling storylines for maximum audience hook, revealing how a month-long angle exploded viewer numbers from 15k to 40k.
The Coach
probes how it felt for
Vince Russo
to return to live crowds and why cliffhangers work.
[00:17:44 – 00:26:51] Survivor Series Booking Exposed
Examining fan disappointment with the “Mystery Man” swerve, specifically Austin Theory’s involvement.
Exploring WWE’s struggle to attract casual fans and keep surprises under wraps.
Comparison between WWE, AEW, and JCW strategies for audience engagement and star-making.
[00:26:51 – 00:38:02] Fan Q&A: Security, Booking, Hollywood Crossover
Addressing the Paul Heyman/fan incident—where was WWE security?
Discussing wrestlers' moves to Hollywood, Triple H’s ambitions, and rumors of company jealousy.
Interactive debate on whether stars should move to Hollywood or focus solely on wrestling.
[00:38:02 – 00:47:09] More Survivor Series Fallout & Match Critique
Breaking down why surprise returns flop if the talent isn’t “over,” using Austin Theory as a prime example.
Problems with booking three underdeveloped talents together.
Dissecting dangerous spots (e.g., Bron Breaker’s near-neck injury) and lackluster War Games logic.
[00:47:09 – 01:03:34] Fan Interaction & Booking Philosophy
Engaging fans and super sticker shout-outs, plus Wheel of Doom contest details.
Real-time feedback from listeners: theories on Drew McIntyre’s “slump,” and WWE’s missed opportunities.
Comparing The Shield’s success to the current roster.
Anecdotes about overseas wrestling tours, security horror stories, and wild road tales.
[01:03:34 – 01:08:33] Closing Takes & What’s Next
Final thoughts on what WWE must do to recover fan trust.
Hype for next week's show, including the promise to address Tony Khan’s pay-per-view length debate and more wrestling news as it breaks.
Sign-off with huge thanks to fans and reminders to join Thursday’s live stream.
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Opening Discussion - AEW Show Length Controversy (0:00 - 15:00)
The hosts discuss Tony Khan's recent explanation for AEW's extended show lengths, specifically addressing the 5.5-hour Full Gear event. Khan revealed that contractual obligations with their pay-per-view distributor require a minimum 4-hour runtime, though this doesn't explain the additional 1.5 hours.
Key Points:
AEW Full Gear ran 5.5 hours on Saturday
Tony Khan claims contractual minimum of 4 hours required
Hosts question the extra 1.5 hours beyond contractual obligation
Discussion of pre-show content padding
WWE vs AEW Programming Philosophy (15:00 - 35:00)
Comparison between WWE's recent programming changes and AEW's approach to show length. The hosts note WWE's positive reception for reducing Raw to 2.5 hours before moving to Netflix, while questioning the return to 3-hour SmackDown format.
Key Points:
WWE learned from audience feedback on show length
Raw's 2.5-hour format received positive fan response
SmackDown returning to 3 hours raises questions
Fan loyalty vs. practical viewing experience
"Less Is More" Entertainment Philosophy (35:00 - 55:00)
Deep dive into the fundamental entertainment principle that drives successful programming across wrestling and sports broadcasting. The host emphasizes this as the first lesson learned in entertainment production.
Key Points:
Core principle: "Less is more, more is too much"
Natural instinct to over-deliver content
Example: Giving 8 reasons when 2 would suffice
Translates to time management and audience retention
Wrestling industry's tendency to "show intelligence" hurts product
Product Quality vs. Quantity Debate (55:00 - 75:00)
Analysis of how extended show lengths can water down wrestling products, with both companies struggling to find the optimal balance between content volume and quality.
Key Points:
Both companies risk product dilution through length
Fan loyalty doesn't always translate to viewing endurance
Even dedicated AEW fans acknowledge show length issues
Industry-wide problem, not company-specific
Behind the Scenes Insights (75:00 - 82:40)
The hosts wrap up with personal experiences from wrestling and sports broadcasting, emphasizing the importance of restraint in content delivery.
Key Points:
Personal anecdotes from WWE pre-show experience
Sports broadcasting parallels with wrestling production
Thanksgiving show schedule announcement
Team appreciation and show growth acknowledgment
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Opening Segment & Show Announcements (0:00 - 5:00)
Hosts Coach and Vince Russo welcome viewers to their Thursday wrestling analysis show
Announcement of preempted next Thursday show due to Thanksgiving
Promotion of JCW live watch-along at 7 PM Eastern on YouTube
Discussion of "Wheel of Doom" merchandise giveaway segment coming up
Rad Bod & Savannah Bananas Interview Recap (5:00 - 15:00)
Big thank you to Rad Bod and Mikey from the Savannah Bananas for their interview
Hosts praise the "incredibly fun interview" that just concluded
Transition into serious wrestling business discussion
CM Punk's "No Motivation" Bombshell Analysis (15:00 - 35:00)
MAJOR STORY: CM Punk's shocking confession about lacking motivation for WWE events
Discussion of how WWE's current business model affects talent motivation
Analysis of pay-per-view events being treated like "another Raw/SmackDown on steroids"
Examination of Saturday night event scheduling impact on talent engagement
CM Punk's guaranteed contract situation and its effect on performance incentives
TKO Corporate Strategy Critique (35:00 - 50:00)
Vince Russo's analysis of TKO trying to run wrestling "like a business"
Key quote: "There's no business like the wrestling business - it's an animal unto itself"
Discussion of mainstream corporate approach vs. wrestling industry traditions
How corporate mentality is changing wrestler motivation and performance
CM Punk's Contract & Career Timeline (50:00 - 58:00)
Analysis of CM Punk's current age (46) and remaining career prospects
Prediction that he has approximately 3 years left in active wrestling
Discussion of WWE's reluctance to sign wrestlers over 50
Examination of multi-million dollar contract implications
Comparison to John Cena's career trajectory and speaking freedom
John Cena Retirement Tour Updates (58:00 - 1:05:00)
Coverage of Monday's "left turn" in Cena's retirement storyline
Analysis of what the hosts liked and didn't like about recent developments
Discussion of Cena's ability to "say whatever he wants" due to contract security
Predictions for how the retirement tour will unfold
Tony Khan NYC Strategy Discussion (1:05:00 - 1:08:00)
Brief mention of Tony Khan's recent activities in New York City
Hosts' advice for Khan's business approach
Statement that "he really needs us" - referring to industry guidance
Closing Segments (1:08:00 - 1:08:45)
Show wrap-up and final thoughts
Reminder about social media follows and upcoming schedule changes
Final thanks to guests and production team
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Opening & Guest Introduction [0:00 - 5:00]
The host introduces Steven, star of an upcoming documentary, and director James Herrgott. Steven shares his current positive mindset despite ongoing health challenges, setting the tone for an inspiring conversation about resilience and determination.
The Medical Miracle: Chiari Malformation Explained [5:00 - 15:00]
Steven reveals his diagnosis of Chiari malformation, a rare brain disorder where the brain grows into the spinal cord instead of outward. Key points:
Discovered when Steven was 5 years old
Doctors called him "one in a million" - he should have been dead, paralyzed, or suffered massive seizures
The condition was only discovered due to intense shoulder pain that woke him nightly
Steven still lives with chronic shoulder pain that ranges from annoying to debilitating
Living with Chronic Pain [15:00 - 25:00]
Deep dive into Steven's daily reality with chronic pain:
Shoulder pain varies from "annoying friend" to "worst enemy" depending on the day
When completely drained or tired, pain becomes debilitating with episodes every minute
Continuous learning about pain management and triggers
Discussion of what "debilitating pain" means for viewers who may not understand chronic conditions
Wrestling Connection & Inspiration [25:00 - 35:00]
Steven shares his love for wrestling, particularly Stone Cold Steve Austin:
Wrestling serves as inspiration and escape from daily challenges
Discussion of favorite wrestlers and their impact on his mindset
Connection between wrestling's "never give up" mentality and his personal journey
The Documentary Journey [35:00 - 45:00]
Director James Herrgott discusses the filmmaking process:
How Steven's story caught his attention as a filmmaker
The documentary features both inspiring elements and compelling "heels" (antagonists)
Wrestling fans will appreciate both the wrestling content and the dramatic storytelling
James sees this project as potentially career-defining
Wisdom Beyond Years & Final Message [45:00 - 52:05]
Steven shares his philosophy and life advice:
Host notes Steven's remarkable wisdom for his age
Steven's core message: "Remember to be yourself and never, ever give up"
Discussion of how his experience has shaped his perspective on life
Closing thoughts on resilience and inspiration
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Full Podcast Summary / Notes (Timestamps Included):
00:00:00 – 00:04:19 | Show Kickoff & Topic Tease
The Coach
welcomes viewers, hyping John Cena’s possible final RAW appearance at Madison Square Garden, the end of an era, and promotions for SiriusXM Pro Wrestling 24/7.
The Coach
and
Vince Russo
tease discussions on Cena, Mercedes Moné, AEW vs. JCW coincidences, football, and the Wheel of Doom merch giveaway.
00:04:20 – 00:08:30 | Community Engagement & Brand Banter
Audience encouraged to join in via super stickers and donations.
Merch announcements: New “Petty Machete” and “Big Tommy C for Gazy” lines.
Banter about staff and fans (notably “Mikey P” in a Chicago Bears onesie) and creating a loyal brand following.
00:08:31 – 00:12:07 | JCW’s Matt Cardona & WWE Crossover
The Coach
probes the timing of Matt Cardona’s JCW title win just before his WWE return.
Vince Russo
details Cardona’s joy but questions WWE’s lack of JCW belt acknowledgment—sparking a conversation on indie credibility and belt politics.
00:12:08 – 00:17:08 | Mercedes Moné & Indie Wrestling Chaos
Analysis of Mercedes Moné’s “13 belt” entrance gone awry at House of Glory, the challenges of managing so many titles, and the over-saturation of championships.
The Coach
and
Vince Russo
discuss indie promotions’ motivations, Tony Khan’s influence, and the logistics/stress of championship belt travel.
00:17:09 – 00:24:25 | Ticket Prices, WWE Nostalgia & John Cena’s Legacy
Fan comments on soaring MSG ticket prices, the tradition of gifting wrestling tickets, and fallen house show attendance.
Cena’s staggering record: 545 RAW matches, the lack of meaningful storylines on his final run, and imaginative predictions for his RAW farewell.
00:24:26 – 00:35:45 | Where WWE Creative Misses the Mark
The wasted potential in Cena’s retirement tour, absence of star-building, and the mismanagement of Solo Sikoa, Austin Theory, and others.
Writers’ room frustrations: How tournament lineups fail to excite, WWE roster depth issues, and why today’s booking falls short of Attitude Era standards.
00:35:46 – 00:39:12 | Corporate Mindset vs. Fan Loyalty
The impact of guaranteed money deals (WWE/UFC) on creative risk-taking and star-making.
Vince Russo
laments loss of “pride” in storytelling;
The Coach
urges WWE leadership to listen to fan feedback and restore authenticity.
00:39:13 – 00:49:25 | Super Stickers, WWE Jealousies, and Missed Opportunities
Spirited debate: Is Triple H jealous of Cena’s spotlight? What motivates WWE brass?
Discussions about Drew McIntyre’s underbooking, the reality of short-term “star cycles,” and the effects on the next generation of wrestling talent.
00:49:26 – 01:10:01 | Wrestling’s Next Big Thing – AEW, TNA, & JCW
Fun with The Outbreak/Barnabas zombie gimmick, AEW’s Toni Storm, upcoming JCW stars, and how rising talent struggles to break through in major promotions.
The Rock, Edge, and surprise booking: Could inter-company collaboration ever really happen?
Lightning round: Ranking top three stars in WWE, AEW, TNA, and why being creative means taking real risks.
01:10:02 – 01:20:30 | Audience Q&A, Life Lessons, and Closing Thoughts
The Coach
shares a personal story about his son’s first golf win.
Closing: Sleep tips, how to spark creative writing, and the future of wrestling community podcasts—plus final reminders to catch the next JCW Lunacy episode, and heartfelt thanks to fans for record-breaking support.
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Full Podcast Summary / Show Notes (Timestamped)
00:00 – 02:09: Show Opens & Social Media Blitz
The Coach sets the stage live from BTT studios, hyping up the big talking points: John Cena’s Boston send-off, Triple H’s role, and more wrestling headlines.
02:09 – 03:22: Social Media Mistakes & Triple H’s Ego Called Out
Vince Russo shares a Twitter blunder and sparks debate: Is Triple H the biggest egomaniac in the business? The pair roast the social media responses comparing Triple H and Vince McMahon’s ring roles.
03:22 – 05:02: Who Owns the Spotlight – Cena or Triple H?
The Coach and Vince Russo dissect Triple H overshadowing Cena's big moment and predict more repeat performances at MSG and Washington.
05:03 – 08:09: Cena’s Final Boston Promo—Was the Emotion There?
Why did Cena’s big speech fall flat for some? The duo calls out missing family, friends, or a personal touch—and explores if Cena himself felt let down.
08:10 – 11:49: Booking Blunders: Did WWE Waste Cena’s Last Year?
Honest A-F grading of the Cena farewell storyline. Vince Russo says the booking gets an “F;" The Coach predicts Cena will eventually see WWE did him no favors.
11:50 – 14:42: Why Boston Didn’t Go All Out for Cena & What Could’ve Been
Was Boston too frugal to pay for a true spectacle? The Coach details WWE’s missed opportunities and shares his own fantasy booking for Survivor Series.
14:43 – 18:46: Booking Survivor Series—A Better Ending for Cena, Rey Mysterio & Dominic
Insightful, creative booking walkthrough: How to swap the title, build Rey vs. Dom in San Diego, and give fans more satisfaction.
18:47 – 22:26: JCW, War Games, and the State of Alternative Wrestling
Vince Russo plugs his JCW Lunacy project, and both hosts compare the tone of independent promotions vs. big-league blood and violence.
22:27 – 25:17: Momentum Shifts & the Power of Proper Story Structure
Exposing how WWE choices leave stars like Cena out of focus post-opening, plus tips on how a writers’ room could better utilize star power.
25:18 – 29:01: What’s Next for the Big Names—Bronson Reed, Logan Paul, and the New WWE Dynamic
Can WWE build its next top faces and heels organically—or is creative sabotaging its own momentum?
29:02 – 33:05: Triple H, Money, and Growing Locker Room Discontent
The Coach and Vince Russo discuss MVP’s public shots at Triple H and why more talent is vocal about frustrations.
33:06 – 39:00: Chris Jericho’s Next Move—WWE Return or AEW Loyalty?
Jericho’s contract, options, and the smart play behind veteran stars maximizing their legacy and payday.
39:01 – 45:04: Wrestling’s Business Side—Can WWE Let Go of Personal Egos?
A look at how money, relationships, and even grudges (like Triple H vs. Jericho) determine major creative and hiring decisions.
45:05 – 54:09: Stone Cold Steve Austin on Life After WWE & Stories from the Road
Reflecting on Austin’s career, post-wrestling struggles, and untold locker room tales with The Coach and Vince Russo.
54:10 – 58:47: Wrestling Burnout—Behind the Curtain on Writers, Announcers, and WWE Workloads
Honest talk about burnout, high-pressure schedules, and why so many talented writers don’t last.
58:48 – End: Fan Q&A, Judgment Day, Booking Logic, & Wheel of Doom Giveaways
A lightning round of fan questions—covering Judgment Day, Triple H’s creative skills, and Russo’s invention of “The Game” nickname—plus merch giveaways and a fun show wrap. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Full Podcast Summary / Notes (Timestamps Included):
[00:00:00–00:02:26]
The Coachand
Vince Russo
kick off the show, recapping a viral week thanks to their Karrion Kross & Scarlett interview, and hype tonight’s packed sports lineup.
[00:02:26–00:07:04]
Banter about Vince’s JCW success, pet allergy shots (and vet bills!), and early super sticker/merch shout-outs.
How fans can interact live and get on the “Wheel of Doom” for prizes.
[00:07:05–00:11:07]
Audience Q&A: Is The Rock laughing at WWE’s ratings slump?Vince Russo
speculates The Rock has backed off due to old grudges and might be content watching chaos from afar.
Discussion about WWE’s declining TV ratings, live attendance, and missed opportunities for ratings boosts.
[00:11:08–00:15:00]
Teasing future “Watch Along” episodes featuring matches and moments Vince wrote, including unseen gems fromThe Coach
’s WWE run.
Anecdotes about John Cena’s professionalism, his classic suit look, and loyalty to his tailor.
[00:15:01–00:18:08]
Focus turns to John Cena’s Boston “farewell,” the lack of promotion, WWE’s corporate priorities, and whether Cena’s creative send-off is up to par.
The Coachand
Vince Russo
argue Cena deserves better after helping build WWE’s brand for decades.
[00:18:09–00:25:00]
Discussion of what a real send-off for Cena should look like—big Boston names, surprise guests, emotional hometown moments, and the lost art of planning and “setting the table” in wrestling storytelling.
Creative conspiracy theories: did WWE copy Coach’s SiriusXM suggestions in real-time?
[00:25:01–00:28:38]
Does Triple H have heat with John Cena? Why would WWE not treat Cena to a Shawn Michaels-level celebration?
Critical take on why new tournaments and “mystery opponents” miss the mark for meaningful star moments.
[00:28:39–00:39:07]
Deep dive into why WWE is dropping the ball: lack of surprise celebrity guests, missing emotional payoff, and treating Cena’s farewell as another average show.
Real stories about Angle, missed calls from WWE legends, and how truly passing the torch should work.
[00:39:08–00:46:44]
Extended audience Q&A: Reflections on “You Can’t See Me,” whether tournaments are lazy booking, and how giving younger wrestlers the “rub” is misunderstood by corporate creative.
[00:46:45–01:01:00]
Wrestling’s business problems: too much content, title bloat, house show struggles, and fan/talent burnout as WWE chases media rights deals.
More about behind-the-scenes creative, Triple H’s ego, and lost crowd momentum at major PPVs.
Lighter side: sports betting disasters, why Vince leaves the vet room, and good-natured NFL banter with “Big Cheesy.”
[01:01:01–01:10:29]
Wrap-up of live super sticker interaction, AEW ribbing, more comical JCW stories (cocaine wrestler antics!), and calling out “wrestling dirt sheets.”
Announcement of upcoming live interview with Ridge Holland and Thursday’s show topics.
[01:10:30–End]
Final words, gratitude to super chatters, and reminders for premium live content coming soon.
A call for WWE to honor Cena properly—and the recurring theme: if WWE creative won’t set the table, the Coach & Bro will.
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Full Podcast Summary / Notes (Timestamped)
00:00-00:32 – Introduction
Vince Russo,
Killer Kross
, and
The Coach
kick off the special episode focused on lifting the lid on wrestling’s business side.
00:32-01:25 – Setting the Stage
The Coachshares the show’s mission: telling real business stories in wrestling, not rehashing TV storylines.
Vince Russoreflects on booking
Killer Kross
&
Scarlett
and their unique star power.
01:25-02:26 – The “Stunning” Factor
Vince Russodetails why
Scarlett
stands out beyond typical wrestling beauty standards, emphasizing her movie star look and Kross’s charisma.
02:39-04:03 – Scarlett’s Reluctance & Trust
Scarlettexplains why she and
Killer Kross
rarely do interviews—and why they trust this show.
04:03-06:06 – The Interview Mindset
Both discuss how they avoid sensationalized interviews and prioritize real, authentic conversations about wrestling.
06:07-07:13 – Life After WWE
Insights on creative fulfillment, fan conventions, and branching out into projects like Scarlett’s paranormal channel and Kross’s book.
07:13-09:02 – Navigating the Indies
Practical tips for wrestlers post-WWE: what sets experienced independents apart and how audience perceptions affect careers after release.
09:06-13:00 – WWE Creative & Triple H
Vince Russoquestions why such star potential goes untapped, and
Killer Kross
and
Scarlett
dissect the behind-the-scenes communication breakdowns and non-transparent creative decision-making.
13:00-16:14 – “Broken Telephone” & Promo Story
A wild story fromKiller Kross
about being handed a controversial promo, discovering misinformation, and direct talks with Triple H.
16:16-21:24 – Authenticity vs. Control
Scarlettand
Killer Kross
explain how their real, unscripted work online brought massive attention and merchandise sales, but was met with resistance from the company.
21:24-25:07 – Merch Success—Corporate Confusion
How a viral promo led to record shirt sales, but generated internal frustration and bizarre pushback from WWE executives.
25:30-32:56 – Contract Negotiations & Fairness
Revealing the manipulative tactics of WWE talent relations, teamwork between Kross and Scarlett, and why standing your ground matters more than chasing money.
33:01-42:28 – Creative Effort Backstage
Comparison of how past stars like The Rock and Austin managed their brands versus Kross and Scarlett’s struggles—dream talent or pain in the ass?
44:26-47:03 – Money, Ticket Prices, and the New Wrestling Economy
Discussing locker room reaction to rising ticket prices, backstage comp ticket restrictions, and why genuine passion beats money as a motivator.
47:29-50:14 – Why They Won’t Compromise
Kross and Scarlett emphasize their partnership, fairness, and creative fulfillment over lucrative offers.
51:03-53:26 – Company Culture Shift: WWE to TKO
Scarlett and Kross analyze how TKO’s management views talent vs. the old era. Are stars now interchangeable cogs in a brand-first machine?
54:36-57:32 – Life Beyond WWE: Advice & Inspiration
The duo encourages released talent, sharing that freelancing in today’s indie scene can be more lucrative and liberating than ever—if you hustle.
58:09-59:59 – Building Your Own Brand
Vince Russocredits Kross & Scarlett for branding themselves inside WWE, setting up for post-departure success.
01:00:01-01:01:08 – Mental Health & Happiness
Why making money isn’t everything—the emotional toll behind the scenes and supporting friends through stress.
01:01:42-01:02:28 – What’s Next? TV, Paranormal, Oscars
Scarlett teases her paranormal show’s future; Kross discusses potential movie projects and an Oscar-qualified film.
01:02:30-01:03:54 – Content Creation & The Future
Insights into their YouTube process and creative hustle outside wrestling.
01:03:54-01:04:46 – Show Wrap & Reflections
The Coachand
Vince Russo
reflect on the episode’s honesty, lessons, and the importance of self-confidence in wrestling.
01:04:46-End – Fan Q&A, Behind-the-Scenes Ribs, & Closing Segment
Fan questions, wrestling stories, and a rib tale involvingThe Coach
and Vince McMahon cap off a candid, value-packed hour.
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Full Podcast Summary / Notes (With Timestamps)
[00:00:00 - 00:01:28]
The Coach kicks off Hour 2 of the show, announcing a major guest appearance by Killer Karrion Kross later in the day.
Welcomes back co-host
Vince Russo
, who shares his involvement with JCW (Juggalo Championship Wrestling) and the non-political, refreshing atmosphere there.
[00:01:28 - 00:04:46]
Discussion on JCW’s unique free events, star power, and community initiatives (giving away turkeys and Faygo).
The Coach
marvels at how the business model works and highlights the wrestler-first environment Violin J has created at JCW.
[00:04:47 - 00:07:06]
Conversation shifts to the rise of streaming and possible international media deals for JCW.
Vince Russo
teases future growth while emphasizing product quality as the determining factor for success.
[00:07:07 - 00:11:25]
Teasing key topics: TKO’s third quarter earnings, John Cena’s farewell tournament, and analysis of WWE’s creative direction.
Candid talk about working relationships in WWE—how talent like Karrion Kross struggled when out of favor with management (specifically Triple H).
[00:11:26 - 00:16:11]
Deeper critique of WWE booking, questionable creative decisions (ex: Tiffany Stratton’s quick title loss), and unexplained storyline choices.
The Coach
and
Vince Russo
question long-term planning—especially with top talent like Brock Lesnar missing from key events and promos.
[00:16:22 - 00:21:22]
The show explores AEW’s Tony Khan’s unusual social-media approach, his openness vs. possible naivety in business, including seeking advice from “the wrong people.”
Ratings talk: The team reflects on SmackDown dropping under a million viewers and possible ramifications for the business.
[00:21:22 - 00:24:33]
Dissecting TKO’s claims about strong WWE ratings in their earnings call, despite record-low TV ratings and sagging attendance.
The Coach
expresses doubts about management’s understanding (or honesty) regarding the WWE product in 2025.
[00:24:33 - 00:32:55]
Tournament Critique: The panel discusses WWE’s decision to run a 16-man tournament for John Cena’s ‘last match,’ questioning the lack of storytelling and reliance on surprise names like Edge or Chris Jericho.
Insight into how (and why) major tournaments are often used as creative “breathers” but traditionally don’t drive ratings.
[00:32:56 - 00:39:22]
The Coach
calls out WWE’s lack of urgency in booking and planning, contrasting it with the effective use of star power in Vince McMahon’s era.
Reflection on how poor celebrity engagement and weak creative choices undermine John Cena’s farewell and WWE’s cultural impact.
[00:39:23 - 00:52:46]
Deep dive into TKO’s Q3 earnings call:
The Coach
and
Vince Russo
break down the reported 23% revenue increase, the reality of WWE’s massive corporate debt, and the questionable logic behind attributing revenue to “impressive” TV ratings and ticket prices.
Discussion on market realities: WWE ticket prices are up, but demand and actual attendance are down.
Caution for the future—if ticket sales and ratings continue to decline, will management finally change course, or are they riding the media rights wave until the well runs dry?
Wrap-up: Karrion Kross’s appearance teased, and
The Coach
promises continued honest, insider analysis fans can trust.
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Full Podcast Summary/Notes (Timestamped)
Opening & Show Setup (00:00 - 02:30)
Coach welcomes listeners to the Coach and Bro Show following his Sirius XM program
Announces upcoming Monday Night Grind at 7 PM Eastern covering Arizona Cardinals vs Dallas Cowboys (Week 9 NFL)
Interactive format: $5 minimum super stickers for questions, $10 super stickers enter Thursday's "Wheel of Doom" merchandise giveaway
Previous week's winner: Hope Cousins
WWE Creative Control Discussion (02:30 - 08:15)
Key Topic: Triple H vs Bruce Prichard Power Dynamics
Addresses misconceptions about Triple H being responsible for "boring" WWE programming
Coach's insider perspective: Bruce Prichard does NOT run the creative show, contrary to popular belief
Discussion of backstage politics and who really holds creative influence
Mention of Michael Hayes also surviving corporate changes alongside Prichard
Coach emphasizes Triple H's actual role vs perceived control
Wrestler Conditioning & Performance Standards (08:15 - 15:20)
Physical Demands of Modern Wrestling
Coach stresses importance of physical conditioning for high-paid wrestlers
"If you're making half a million dollars, you've got to bust your ass in the gym"
Challenge: Name current wrestlers who can work 30+ minutes without getting "blown up"
Discussion of TV presentation standards and main event expectations
Tommy admits he'd be "blown up" after 6 minutes
CM Punk Championship Reign Analysis (15:20 - 22:45)
Championship Timeline Predictions
Comparison to Jey Uso's 52-day title reign and negative press received
Speculation on CM Punk potentially carrying title to WrestleMania
Seth Rollins Return Factor: 6-month injury timeline from Rich Eisen Show appearance
Potential WrestleMania storyline: Seth's return with "You never won it from me" angle
Reference to Seth's previous "over my dead body" comments about CM Punk as champion
WWE's Billion-Dollar Deal Impact (22:45 - 30:00)
Financial Success vs Creative Motivation
Breakdown of WWE's massive media deals:
Netflix: $500 million annually
ESPN: $325 million
Peacock and other deals bringing total close to $1 billion yearly
Coach's Theory: Guaranteed money reduces motivation to excel
Comparison to NBA's Ja Morant situation ($39 million guaranteed, coaching conflicts)
Question posed: How would massive upfront payment affect your work ethic?
Fan Interaction & Match Booking (30:00 - 35:15)
Super Sticker Highlight
Robert Rose suggests better main event: CM Punk vs Drew McIntyre with Punk doing the honors
Coach agrees with fan's booking suggestion
Discussion of alternative match scenarios and their potential impact
Show Wrap-Up & Upcoming Content (35:15 - End)
Programming Schedule
Monday Night Grind preview for Cardinals vs Cowboys
Thursday double-header announcement:
Stadium show (time TBD)
5 PM special guest episode on YouTube
Acknowledgment of producer and show format
Tease of ongoing Vince Russo situation
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Full Podcast Summary/Notes (Timestamped)
Opening Segment - Live Donation Drama (0:00 - 15:00)
The hosts address viewer "M Heaton" who sent a $20 super sticker complaint about show timing changes. Coach defends the scheduling flexibility needed for independent podcasters, explaining they're "not ESPN and Fox" and have real lives outside the show. The exchange escalates when Coach threatens to "take down" M Heaton but ultimately offers two free Wheel of Doom spots as compensation.
Key Points:
Independent podcast scheduling challenges
Viewer engagement through live donations
Host-audience relationship dynamics
Vince's Upstate New York Retreat Announcement (15:00 - 25:00)
Co-host Vince reveals plans for a 5-day getaway to his Airbnb cabin in upstate New York. Coach playfully calls this his "third heat seeking missile" of the day, joking about never being invited despite their partnership. The conversation highlights the personal side of podcast partnerships and work-life balance.
WrestleMania 42 Creative Criticism (25:00 - 45:00)
Major Wrestling Content Discussion
The hosts tear apart Triple H's creative direction for WrestleMania 42, with particular criticism of:
Overexposed talent including Roman Reigns
Lack of compelling storylines
Repetitive booking patterns
Disconnect between creative and fan expectations
Vince admits to consciously trying to be less critical of Triple H but feels compelled to speak honestly about the product's declining quality.
JCW Wrestling Philosophy Contrast (45:00 - 60:00)
Discussion shifts to Juggalo Championship Wrestling (JCW) and Violent J's approach to talent elevation. The hosts praise JCW's focus on:
Putting established stars in positions to elevate newer talent
Giving younger wrestlers career-building opportunities
Minimal screen time for veterans to maximize impact
Building future stars rather than relying on past names
Audience Engagement & Wheel of Doom Explanation (60:00 - 78:42)
Show Mechanics and Monetization
Detailed explanation of the show's interactive elements:
Super stickers and donations over $5 get on-screen recognition
$10+ donations qualify for the Wheel of Doom
Record day: 66 super stickers received
All donations support show production and brand growth
Emphasis on audience as integral part of the show experience
Final Notes:
YouTube subscription and notification reminders
Acknowledgment of loyal "OG" viewers who find the show regardless of time changes
Appreciation for audience dedication and support
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Full Podcast Summary/Notes (Timestamped)
Opening & Show Introduction (00:00 - 05:00)
Coach welcomes listeners to the Coach and Bro Show afternoon pro wrestling program
Explains interactive format with super stickers and merchandise giveaways
Mentions the coveted "Wheel of Doom" for $10+ super sticker contributors
Teases holiday merchandise ideas for loyal listeners
References partner Vinny (Vince Russo) being active in wrestling despite Dave Meltzer's incorrect reporting
Logan Paul's $100 Million Podcast Deal Analysis (15:00 - 25:00)
Major Discussion Point: Logan Paul's podcast rights sold for over $100 million
Comparison to the Kelce Brothers' similar $100 million deal structure
Key insight: Logan Paul retained his YouTube channel rights (crucial for content creators)
Financial breakdown: 5-year deal worth $100 million means $20 million annually
Coach's perspective: Why work 40 weeks per year in WWE when you can earn more podcasting?
Tommy C agrees that podcast money makes wrestling schedule less appealing
Discussion on how companies like Fanatic now handle podcast sales and distribution
WWE Raw Commentary & Wrestling Analysis (25:00 - 35:00)
Criticism of WWE Raw's repetitive storylines and predictable booking
Jade Cargill's heel turn discussed as unsurprising development
Coach expresses frustration with "regurgitated" content week after week
Analysis of why Jade Cargill's babyface run failed before heel turn
Discussion on wrestling industry's current creative challenges
UFC 321 Main Event Controversy (35:00 - 40:00)
Fan question about UFC 321 main event ending and eye poke controversy
Coach addresses how fouls should be handled in UFC competition
Tommy C admits he didn't see the fight ending
Brief discussion on officiating standards in mixed martial arts
Concert Memories & Music Discussion (40:00 - 45:00)
Personal anecdotes about attending concerts at small venues
Coach's son J.J. brings up a song that "sounds like Will Smith"
Nostalgic conversation about supporting artists before they became famous
Tommy C shares memories of discovering talent at intimate venues
Show Wrap-Up & Monday Night Football Preview (45:00 - 50:35)
Announcement of Monday Night Grind show at 7 PM Eastern
Team lineup: Coach, Big Tommy, Rafael, and Mikey P for NFL coverage
Mention of "Legends Lounge" segment attempts
Promotion of interactive Monday Night Football breakdown
Thursday show announcement (time TBD, not on Stadium network)
Final encouragement to "keep it positive" while watching WWE Raw
Sign-off from Coach and Big Tommy C
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On today's episode Vince Explains WHY this will be the FINAL "Before My Head Explodes" Broadcast. Thanks to all who listened, but remember---you can STILL hear Vince DAILY over on RussosBrand.com. (Get your FREE WEEK by going to Patreon.com/RussoTWC).
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Full Podcast Summary/Notes (Timestamped)
Opening Segment & Show Format (00:00:00 - 00:08:00)
Show Introduction: Coach and Vince Russo launch their extended two-hour wrestling business analysis show on Stadium and Bally Sports Live
Format Explanation: Emphasis on business-focused content rather than match-by-match analysis
Audience Education: Hosts explain their unique positioning as "the fastest growing pro wrestling business show"
Platform Strategy: Multi-platform broadcasting approach across Stadium, Bally Sports Live, and YouTube
David Otunga Deep Dive Interview (00:08:00 - 00:35:00)
Harvard Law Background: Detailed discussion of Otunga's unique dual perspective as wrestler and attorney
Contract Law Masterclass: Comprehensive breakdown of wrestling contracts, non-compete clauses, and wrestler rights
Industry Navigation: Strategic advice for wrestlers leaving major promotions and protecting their interests
Legal Loopholes: Insider knowledge on how wrestlers can maximize their contractual positions
Business Strategy: Discussion of wrestling career transitions and legal considerations
Social Media & Marketing Strategy Analysis (00:35:00 - 00:42:00)
WWE Social Media Critique: Analysis of WWE's missed opportunities in content distribution
Monetization Discussion: How wrestling companies should leverage YouTube and social platforms for revenue
Nick Aldis Case Study: Specific example of announcement strategy failures
Content Distribution: Strategic discussion on maximizing reach and engagement across platforms
Breaking News: Wrestling Betting Scandal (00:42:00 - 00:50:00)
Newsmax Interview Setup: Host announces exclusive coverage opportunity at 12:15 PM Eastern
Scandal Impact Analysis: Discussion of fraud and betting issues affecting the wrestling industry
Industry Implications: How these scandals impact wrestling business and fan trust
Media Coverage Strategy: Behind-the-scenes look at breaking news coverage in wrestling media
Ticket Sales & Event Business Analysis (00:50:00 - 00:58:00)
John Cena Event Analysis: Deep dive into 57,000 people in queue but failing to sell out
Venue Capacity vs. Demand: Business analysis of wrestling event attendance patterns
Revenue Impact: How ticket sales trends affect wrestling company valuations
Market Saturation Discussion: Whether wrestling events are oversaturated in certain markets
Extended Otunga Q&A Session (00:58:00 - 01:02:00)
Audience Questions: Viewer-submitted questions addressed by Otunga
Career Advice: Specific guidance for aspiring wrestlers on contract negotiations
Future Collaboration: Discussion of ongoing educational content and return appearances
Resource Sharing: How viewers can access Otunga's legal expertise and content
Show Wrap-Up & Future Content (01:02:00 - 01:07:30)
Next Episode Preview: Monday 5 PM Eastern time schedule confirmation
Audience Engagement: Weekly $10 giveaway structure and participation opportunities
Guest Appreciation: Recognition of educational value provided by expert guests
Brand Positioning: Reinforcement as the premier wrestling business analysis show
Multi-Platform Presence: Final reminders about Stadium, Bally Sports Live, and YouTube availability
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On today's show Vince talks about the WWE utilizing AI to write storylines for them---could this actually save Triple H's JOB? Also, Vince latest experience with a Wrestling Promotion goes SOUTH---WHY and HOW Wrestling Promoters are KILLING THE BUSINESS. PLUS---WHY THE !@#$%^& were we forced to take all those meaningless classes in school?!!!
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Opening & Show Introduction (00:00:00 - 00:02:30)
Coach welcomes viewers to BHT Studios for another Monday episode
Show schedule: Mondays 5pm ET, Thursdays 11am ET across multiple platforms
Available on Stadium, Amazon Prime, DirectTV, YouTube, and social media
Call to action for YouTube subscriptions, likes, and shares
Introduction of co-host Vince Russo from RussosBrand.com
Show format explanation: focuses on bigger storylines and wrestling business rather than segment-by-segment breakdowns
NFL Discussion & Wrestling Parallels (00:02:30 - 00:08:15)
Russo asks about NFL team count (32 teams) to make wrestling comparison point
Discussion about creative repetition in wrestling vs. sports variety
Comparison between WWE's repetitive storylines and NFL's diverse matchups
Debate about creative desperation when jobs are on the line
Reference to potential Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair WrestleMania rematch fatigue
ESPN & Crown Jewel Coverage Analysis (00:08:15 - 00:12:45)
Fan feedback about ESPN shortening YouTube clips from 5 minutes to 2.5 minutes
Comparison between Crown Jewel and previous events like Wrestlepalooza
Discussion of ESPN's $30 subscription pricing strategy
Analysis of how content length affects viewership and live show attendance
Praise for ESPN taking a firm stance on content distribution
Interactive Show Elements (00:12:45 - 00:18:30)
Explanation of Super Sticker system ($5+ for comments, $10+ for Wheel of Doom)
Emphasis on audience participation and diverse perspectives
Real-time interaction with premium members and new chat participants
Coach and Russo's appreciation for fan engagement
Wrestling Business & Creative Challenges (00:18:30 - 00:35:20)
Discussion of creative bankruptcy in modern wrestling
Analysis of how desperation drives booking decisions
Comparison of current WWE creative to past eras
Debate about human elements in wrestling storytelling
Industry insider perspectives on job security and creative pressure
Jon Moxley & Renee Paquette Segment (00:35:20 - 00:45:50)
Discussion of recent Moxley developments
Analysis of talent relationships and industry dynamics
Insider commentary on AEW storylines and character development
Comparison to past wrestling couples and their on-screen/off-screen dynamics
Controversial Wrestling Moments Discussion (00:45:50 - 00:55:30)
Reference to past TNN wrestling content and broadcast standards
Discussion of controversial segments and their impact
Analysis of how wrestling content has evolved across different networks
Russo's insider stories about past wrestling television experiences
AEW Saturday/Sunday Event Analysis (00:55:30 - 01:05:00)
Breakdown of recent AEW programming
Comparison to WWE's weekend scheduling
Discussion of wrestling's weekend programming strategy
Analysis of audience engagement across different time slots
Show Wrap-Up & Final Thoughts (01:05:00 - 01:08:00)
Coach announces early departure for family obligations (picking up son from school)
Reminder about Thursday's live show and Wheel of Doom segment
Sports talk transition (Mariners, Blue Jays, Dodgers World Series discussion)
Final thanks to production team: Producer Mikey P and Dan (Double D)
Thursday show promotion and sign-off
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On today's episode: Britney Spears ex, Kevin Federline says that his ex-wife BANGED HIM on their First Date/I DEFINITELY Experienced the "Mandela Effect"---Burt Reynolds has been DEAD FOR YEARS//12 year-old Performs BRAIN SURGERY/Vince McMahon Accident Update---MORE trouble for Former WWE CEO?!!!
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Full Podcast Summary/Notes (Timestamped)
Opening & Crown Jewel T-Shirt Celebration (0:00-5:00)
Major Highlight: Fan Carmine wore the Coach & Bro Show t-shirt to WWE Crown Jewel in Australia
Hosts celebrate their brand being represented at a major WWE event
Discussion about shipping costs to Australia ($40)
Setting up the show as their "longest episode to date"
The Rock's Mysterious Podcast Strategy (15:00-25:00)
Key Topic: Analysis of The Rock's appearance on a major podcast
Timing Concerns: His movie had already been out for 2 weeks (unusual promotion timing)
Movie performance discussed: Only $6 million first week
Strategic Analysis: Podcast has $100 million deal, need major guests for downloads
Comparison to Taylor Swift's previous appearance on the same show
Discussion of why Rock would choose this timing despite no WWE mentions
Wrestling Industry Payment Scandals Exposed (35:00-50:00)
Major Revelation: Coach discusses being scammed at a 2021 boxing event
Event featured DJ Khaled, Migos, James Harden ($2 million investment)
The Big Lie: Promoters expected 10 million buys at $20 each for YouTube boxing
Coach initially unpaid, but got money after threatening legal action
Key Quote: "It'll be a cold day in hell before you do another show if you don't pay"
Payment resolved within 30 days after private confrontation
Mickie James & Industry Politics (60:00-70:00)
Controversy: Mickie James lost her spot on LFG show due to host's wife
Financial Impact: Estimated $70,000-$150,000 per season loss
Discussion of how personal relationships affect professional opportunities
Praise for Mickie James as "one of the sweetest women" in wrestling
Wheel of Doom Segment (75:00-85:00)
Fan Engagement: Largest number of participants ever
Winner: Lonnie Meade selected for merchandise prize
Emphasis on following through with prizes (unlike other shows)
Building global community with "mamby pamby" t-shirts
Show Wrap & Future Plans (85:00-94:00)
Schedule Announcement: Monday 5 PM Eastern on YouTube and socials
Thursday 11 AM Eastern on Stadium and Bally Sports Live
Call to Action: YouTube subscription drive for channel growth
John Cena retirement discussion and ticket sales prediction
Final message about wrestling being "supposed to be fun"
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On today's show Vince talks about the Passing of Burt Reynolds and Diane Keaton, WHO is Responsible for making HUNDREDS of ICONS, what SHOCKED ME at the Paul McCartney Concert and Breaking down the McCartney/Shears "Coors" Playlist
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