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Cyber Leaders
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The Cyber Leaders podcast focusses on the fast-paced world of cybersecurity, delivering cutting-edge insights and trends with energy, enthusiasm, and professionalism. With high level expertise and thought leadership, we aim to provide invaluable perspectives and actionable strategies to empower leaders in navigating the ever-changing landscape of cybersecurity.
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In this episode, Ciaran and James are joined by SANS Chief of Research and Head of Faculty, Rob Lee, to tackle the one big issue on everyone’s mind, AI. Rob shares his expert insight on the rapid rise of AI, from mainstream adoption to cognitive impact, and examines the threats, opportunities, and where human judgment still matters. Contact: Have questions or comments? Email us at ciso-network@sans.org
In this bonus episode, Ciaran and James look back on the memorable moments of Series 2, revisiting insightful interviews and compelling discussions. They explore recurring themes such as cyber conflict, critical infrastructure protection and the shifting threat landscape. It’s a chance to reflect and gear up for what’s ahead in Series 3. To see links and learn more about the show, visit https://www.sans.org/cyber-leaders-podcast/ Contact: Have questions or comments? Email us at ciso-network@...
In this episode, Ciaran and James are joined by Tim Conway, Technical Director of ICS and SCADA, to discuss the hidden systems that keep society running, from power plants to water grids. Tim sheds light on the unique challenges of securing industrial control systems, the dangers of complacency, and why the OT world is often overlooked until something goes terribly wrong. To learn more about our guest Tim Conway and for links from the episode, visit https://www.sans.org/podcasts/cyber-l...
In this bonus episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Dr. Bilyana Lilly, to discuss cyber disinformation, diplomacy and defense. Here Bilyana sheds light on how geopolitical risk affects technology, including cyber threats, information warfare, and the evolving global security landscape. To learn more about our guest Dr. Bilyana Lilly and for links from the episode, visit https://www.sans.org/podcasts/cyber-leaders/ Contact: Have questions or comments? Email us at ciso-network@sans.org
In this episode, Ciaran and James are joined by Senior SANS instructor John Hubbard to discuss the ever-changing threat landscape and how SOC teams can stay ahead. John shares his expertise on spotting threats early, how to test your defences before the real attackers show up, and why he’s on a mission to simplify cybersecurity operations for the next generation of defenders. To learn more about our guest John Hubbard and for links from the show, visit https://www.sans.org/podcasts/cyber-le...
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Tarah Wheeler, scholar, campaigner and entrepreneur, to discuss risk, safety and security in an increasingly unstable digital world. Tarah shares her expertise on protecting the most vulnerable, navigating legal grey zones in cybersecurity research, and translating complex technical issues into action for policymakers and small businesses alike. Find more information about our guest Tarah Wheeler and episode links at https://www.sans.org/podcast...
In this episode, Ciaran and James meet Max Smeets, Co Director of Virtual Routes and Senior Researcher at the Center for Strategic Studies at ETH Zurich, to discuss how digital threats are reshaping geopolitics. Max shares his expertise on the cyber dimensions of modern warfare, and the impact of ransomware attacks on global security. Contact: Have questions or comments? Email us at ciso-network@sans.org
In this episode, Ciaran and James meet Christine Gadsby, Vice President and CISO at BlackBerry, to talk supply chain security; from exploding pagers to software liabilities. Christine reflects on how the industry is maturing around regulation, secure development, and vendor accountability as well as what happens when even hardware becomes a weapon. Contact: Have questions or comments? Email us at ciso-network@sans.org
In this episode, Ciaran and James are joined by Ross McKerchar, CISO at Sophos, to discuss one of the most significant – and to some, controversial – counter cyber operations ever carried out by a private company. Ross shares insights from the frontlines of the Pacific Rim campaign, as well as the shifting dynamics of the cybersecurity industry and what active defence really looks like in practice. Contact: Have questions or comments? Email us at ciso-network@sans.org
In this episode, Lisa Forte, founder of Red Goat, joins Ciaran and James to discuss risk, security and the threat from within. Lisa offers her expertise on insider threat, crisis management, and high risk adventures. Highlights: Insider threat; the breakdown U.S. CERT definitions and mitigation Defining Insider Threats | CISA | Insider Threat Mitigation Guide NPSA guidance and tools Insider Risk | NPSA | Reducing Insider Risk | NPSA A pervasive problem SANS – Decoding: “Inside...
Kicking off series two, Ciaran and James sit down with none other than the CIO of NATO, Manfred Boudreaux-Dehmer, to discuss what collective defence means in the cyber domain. Manfred offers a rare inside look at managing security and information risk across NATO’s vast digital landscape and shares insights on emerging threats, evolving technologies, and how the Alliance is adapting to keep its members protected in an increasingly contested cyberspace. Contact: Have questions or commen...
We're Back for Season 2! Catch up on episodes from Season 1: https://www.sans.org/podcasts/cyber-leaders/ Contact: Have questions or comments? Email us at ciso-network@sans.org
In this bonus episode, Ciaran and James ring in the new year with a look back at the standout guests and thought-provoking topics from series one. They also take a sneak peek at what 2025 holds for the ever-evolving world of tech security. And to top it off, there’s a special announcement to chase away those January blues. Highlights: Typhoon Variants Ciaran and James take a look at developing cyber threats from China, including: Volt Typhoon: a persistent botnet with wide-reaching impactsV...
In this special bonus episode, Ciaran and James tackle one of their favorite cybersecurity acronyms: FUD – Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Here our hosts break down what exactly FUD means for cybersecurity, why it matters, and the real-world risks it presents. Highlights: Notable Example of FUD - The Killer Drones story; FUD in action and then retraction - Highlights from the RAeS Future Combat Air & Space Capabilities Summit - BBC article on viral report Malware attacks -...
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with investigative journalist and author, Geoff White, to explore the booming business of cyber crime. Geoff sheds light on this murky criminal underworld, its far-reaching consequences, and how cybersecurity has evolved in the public eye. Highlights: [1:30] Overview of Geoff’s notable work [4:00] Cybersecurity in the Limelight [10:15] Transformative Hacking Stories [20:00] Global Cyber Criminals Overview [30:00] Gripping Stories Covered by Geoff in ...
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Helen Rabe, CISO for the BBC, to discover the challenges of breaking into the industry and her experiences leading security for one of the world’s largest broadcasters. Helen shares her expertise as a certified industry leader, discussing the rising tide of personal liability for CISOs and the intense media scrutiny that comes with managing incident responses in the public eye. Highlights: [8:30] The Evolution of Organizational Secur...
In this episode, Ciaran and James welcome their first guest from the SANS Institute, Frank Kim, to share insights on bridging the gap between cybersecurity and business leadership. Frank unpacks why cybersecurity is often overlooked by business leaders and discusses effective strategies to elevate its importance in boardrooms and beyond. Highlights: [4:30] Cyber on the World Stage [12:00] Dispelling FUD and Finding What Resonates Links: Crowdstrike Outages Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD...
In this episode, Ciaran and James meet Jen Ellis, founder of NextJenSecurity, to discuss the pervasive threat of ransomware, the power of cyber security advocacy and importance of security best practices. Jen shares her expertise on humanising security and working with governments to build robust defenses against cyber attacks. Highlights: [3:00] Overview of Jen’s achievements and engagements [8:30] Legislating Cyber Crime [11:00] Notable Ransomware Attacks [18:00] Ransomware Tas...
In this episode, Ciaran and James are joined by Christine Bejerasco, the CISO of WithSecure, for an insightful conversation about navigating the complexities of cybersecurity in today’s global landscape. Christine shares her experiences; from the wild early days of network worms and mobile malware, to the evolving role of the modern CISO and what it takes to lead cybersecurity experts towards a safer digital world. Highlights: [3:00] After GDPR: the regulations defining how organisations do...
In this episode, Ciaran and James are joined by Shashank Joshi, Defence Editor at The Economist, to discuss the geopolitics of cyber security. Shashank offers his expert analysis on critical cyber security events, strategies, and their global implications. Highlights [2:00] Entry into Cyber [5:00] Iran-Israel Cyber Skirmishes [8:00] The XZUtils Story [11:00] Historical example highlighting the human side of technological advancement [14:00] Cyber warfare and geopolitical tensions [23:00] US-C...