Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

Work is broken for most of us. The modern office was built for men with stay-at-home wives. School lets out at 3, childcare costs a fortune, and we’ve all gone a little feral since the pandemic. But we’re also lonelier than ever, and we’re losing something real when we never see each other in person. This week we talk with economist Natalia Emanuel, co-author of In Person, about why being together makes us smarter, more creative, and less miserable. We get into why we hate a Zoom (there’s brain science behind it), how young people are supposed to find mentors and make friends when they only see their coworkers on a screen, why the fight over remote versus in-office misses the point, and what a workplace built for actual humans, not shareholders, could look like. Find the book at inpersonbook.com. Join our newsletter community here. ORDER The Parisian Heist here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What does it really take to ask for what you want—and actually get it? Jenny Wood, former Google executive and author of Wild Courage, breaks down why fear of judgment, failure, and uncertainty keep so many people stuck. This episode dives into the surprising science of ambition, why women are still penalized for being "bossy," how guilt and comparison steal more from us than failure ever could, and why being a little shameless might be the smartest move you make. Plus: what chasing a stranger off a subway platform can teach you about betting on yourself. Buy Wild Courage here. Join our newsletter community here. Pre-order EVERYONE IS LYING TO YOU here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we talk with Hillary Frank, the creator of The Longest Shortest Time, a podcast that got us through the miserable, sleepless, who-is-this-tiny-alien early days of motherhood. Hillary has a new thriller out called Wedlocked, an original audiobook that is Promising Young Woman meets Get Out. The protagonist, Zara is an instructor on Uplift, a fitness app that promises to lift your weights and your spirits, and she’s married to Ezzy, the app’s founder. (Do not mix work and pleasure, people. It never ends well.) Her job is to stay relentlessly peppy no matter how sore, sad, or furious she is. Then something shifts, and Zara starts feeling genuinely, wildly happy for the first time in forever. She also starts getting scary symptoms, suspects someone is stalking her, and has to deal with an ex who shows up and thinks her new bliss is seriously weird. We won’t spoil anything, but let’s just say her happiness probably isn’t coming from a good place. We talk about why women are expected to smile through everything, from chronic pain to random dudes on the street telling is to smile to the Instagram algorithm that only promotes youth and beauty, and what it actually costs our bodies when we stuff down our anger. Plus, we found out The Longest Shortest Time is back and now covering perimenopause and reproductive health! Wedlocked is available wherever you get audiobooks, and that includes your library, y’all. Join our newsletter community here. ORDER The Parisian Heist here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What if moms were in charge? This week we sit down with Liuba Grechen Shirley, founder of Vote Mama, who ran for Congress in 2018 while nursing two toddlers and became the first woman to win federal approval to use campaign funds for childcare. That ruling changed how parents run for office, and the fight has since spread to 41 states and DC. We talk about why there are more millionaires in Congress than moms of young kids, why childcare and paid leave are economic issues and not “women’s issues,” and what it actually takes for a regular person to run when the job is basically an unpaid two-year interview. Liuba shares stories from the trail, including a congressman who called her an “illegitimate constituent,” and introduces us to some of the incredible moms on the ballot this November. We also get into the very real safety threats women candidates face, the state legislators who earn more teaching classes at the Y than they do in office, and whether we should finally throw our own hat in the ring. With 202 Vote Mama candidates on the ballot and less than three weeks until the midterms, this is your sign to check back in. Host a Moms’ Night Out (rage rooms encouraged) at votemama.org/ready, follow @votemamalobby on Instagram, and sign up to volunteer at votemama.org. Join our newsletter community here. ORDER The Parisian Heist here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We had a whole different episode planned, and then Shane Gillis stood up on SNL and called women who wear shorts to the gym whores. So we’re doing another emergency episode, and this time Nick Aster joins us to talk about why this matters so much right now. We get into what a joke like this on live network television tells young men in the wake of the Cornell Seven group text, why Dan Levy’s call for more men to speak up is exactly right, and why we think the most effective response isn’t just calling this misogyny but calling it what it is: sad, pathetic, and dumb. We also talk about raising a boy and two girls in a house full of ’80s comedies and boob jokes, how a MAGA-coded comedian getting this platform before the midterms feels like a distraction, and what a more nuanced conversation could look like. Plus, our rescue kitten Geoff makes his podcast debut, and we’re putting on our whore shorts and heading to the gym. Join our newsletter community here. ORDER The Parisian Heist here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices