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How To Relate
Author: Brittani Procknow
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Many people try to answer what makes relationships work. This podcast aims to answer how do we work relationships? I’m Brittani Procknow, a relationship therapist working with individuals and couples to deepen intimacy and live relationally. I’m taking insights from behind closed doors to you, a listener seeking to improve your relational wellbeing. I’m talking to people about everyday concepts including mental health, work, dating, families, friendships, and hobbies to give insights and actions towards living relationally. I’m grateful to have you here. Let’s dive in.
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What is imposter syndrome, and why do so many successful people still feel like they don’t belong?
In this episode of How to Relate, Brittani and Drew explore the psychology of imposter syndrome, including the fear of being “found out,” chronic self-doubt, and the pressure to prove ourselves in work, dating, and relationships.
Unpack how imposter syndrome shows up in everyday life—from dating anxiety and people-pleasing to parenting pressure and professional perfectionism—and discuss practical ways to challenge the inner critic and build self-trust.
You'll Learn:
What imposter syndrome actually is
The fear of being “found out” as a fraud
How imposter syndrome develops
Perfectionism, comparison, and performance pressure
How imposter syndrome shows up in dating and relationships
The connection between embarrassment and shame
Imposter syndrome in careers and parenting
Practical ways to challenge self-doubt and build self-trust
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Brittani's Resources
Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow
Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219
Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
What if the key to better decisions—in your life, relationships, and business—wasn’t more intuition, but better data?
In this episode, Brittani sits down with therapist Everett Uhl to explore how data-driven decision making can transform the way we approach our careers, personal habits, and even emotional awareness. They dive into the hidden problems with many therapy trainings, the pressure therapists feel to constantly “level up,” and why tracking the right metrics might matter more than adding another certification.
From sleep scores and protein intake to client referrals and lifetime customer value, this conversation explores how information—not impulse—can help you build a more sustainable and aligned life.
If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by self-improvement culture or unsure how to make clearer decisions in your work or relationships, this episode offers a refreshing framework: use your feelings as data, not directives.
Everett's Training
https://partiful.com/e/VSKwdFAM3Y43ioVARBUV?rsvp=true
Work with Everett: https://www.everettuhltherapy.com/
Brittani's Resources
Sign up for the weekly newsletter for insight and action into relational wellness: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
Work with me: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219
Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
In this episode of How to Relate, therapist Bianca Hughes joins Brittani to explore the exhausting cycle of perfectionism, the pressure to meet others’ expectations, and what it truly means to live in alignment with your authentic self. Bianca shares her personal journey—including selling her home and taking a global sabbatical—to illustrate how reconnecting with your true identity can create freedom, trust, and joy.
You'll understand how perfectionism develops, why authenticity is often suppressed, and how small mindset shifts can help you reconnect with who you really are. If you’ve ever felt stuck trying to be “enough,” this conversation will help you rethink success, identity, and what it means to live authentically.
In This Episode We Cover
Why perfectionism often develops in high achievers
The hidden cost of living by others’ expectations
What authenticity actually means (beyond the buzzword)
How Bianca’s sabbatical changed her relationship with work, identity, and consumerism
Why trusting yourself is the foundation of confidence
How to create your own version of a “sabbatical” without quitting your life
Why living authentically benefits everyone around you
Bianca's Resources:
Website: https://www.authenticallybeyou.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/authenticallybeyou
Brittani's Resources
Weekly Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
Work together: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow
Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219
It's a solo episode! Together we'll explore how shame quietly shapes our reactions, conflict patterns, and intimacy. Drawing from the work of Brené Brown, Joseph Burgo, and John Gottman, she breaks down the four “buckets” of shame, how shame turns into defensiveness, and why we project our internal stories onto the people we love most.
You’ll learn how to move from reaction to responsibility — and how real intimacy begins when you stop delegating your self-worth to someone else.
Get the PDF guide for this episode:
https://howtorelate.kit.com/92ab8c9359
Brittani's Resources
Work with me: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow
Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219
Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
How does attachment with our peers impact our attachment as adults? Drew and Brittani are discussing attachment beyond styles. Key takeaways"
-Attachment on the relational spectrums of teens and adults
-Social media's impact on teen attachment
-Peter Pan syndrome in modern society
-The Wendy Dilemma
-Balancing freedom and responsibility in adulthood
How does trauma impact our relationships and how do we heal trauma in our relationships? Brittany Wyche, PhD LCHMC, therapist, professor, and educator discusses the concept of trauma from a response-based perspective, the importance of understanding trauma within relational and systemic contexts, and how play and creativity can enhance trauma recovery. You'll gain insights into the trauma healing process, the interplay of dating and trauma, and the importance of self-connection in relationships. Plus Brittany talks about the tv show Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and the complex dating dynamics. Enjoy!
Brittany Wyche
Website: https://www.salembloom.com/about
A Lot More Nuanced: https://www.patreon.com/cw/alotmorenuancedpodcast/posts
Brittani's Resources:
Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow
Intimacy Workbook: https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
Vince Benevento, LPC, is a licensed counselor in both NY and CT, a husband, father, speaker, entrepreneur, and author of Boys Will Be Men: 8 Lessons for the Lost American Male. He holds a BA from Wesleyan University and a Masters’s in School Counseling from Fairfield University. Vince possesses nearly 20 years of experience working specifically with men and young men as a coach, mentor, and therapist. The organization Vince founded and has directed for the last 15 years, Causeway Collaborative, has supported over 2000 men and young men from 14-30, effectively changing the way that therapy has been done for guys who have been resistant to help over that time. Now, Vince hopes to share key lessons with men who seek to become better versions of themselves and those who love them.
00:33 Meet Vince Benevento: Founder of Causeway Collaborative
01:20 The Journey to Starting Causeway
03:28 Challenges and Needs of Young Men
04:40 The Role of Male Mentorship
05:02 Practical Life Skills and Career Readiness
05:52 The Importance of Purpose-Driven Work
07:23 The Evolution of Causeway's Approach
08:05 Therapy vs. Career Coaching for Young Men
11:14 Building Confidence Through Competence
15:22 The Crisis of Modern Masculinity
18:25 Changes in Client Archetypes Over the Years
21:32 Overcoming Inertia in Young Men
28:01 Writing 'Boys Will Be Men': A Personal Journey
31:56 The Birth of the Book
33:44 The Eight Lessons
35:14 Brick by Brick
36:58 Name It to Tame It
38:26 Provision is Not a Substitute for Presence
40:34 Find Your Inner Wild
43:16 Never Tap Out
44:42 Iron Sharpens Iron
45:53 Gentle Strength
47:22 Find Your Thing
55:16 Lessons from Adversity
Vince's Resources:
Boys Will Be Men Book: https://www.amazon.com/Boys-Will-Be-Men-American/dp/1959170317/ref=zg_bsnr_g_11390_d_sccl_20/000-0000000-0000000?psc=1
Causeway Collaborative: https://causewaycollaborative.com/
Brittani's Resources
Newsletter: https://brittaniprocknow.substack.com/
Website: https://brittaniprocknow.com
What makes behavior change stick? We'll dive into different theories including The Fresh Start Effect and new year inspiration, Self-Determination Theory, willpower vs discipline, and temporal landmarks.
00:11 Discussing Behavioral Change
01:28 Challenges of Behavioral Change
03:01 Regret, Shame, and Identity
05:47 The Fresh Start Effect
06:30 Temporal Landmarks and Cultural Significance
15:49 Willpower vs. Discipline
27:46 Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation
28:44 Exploring Competence and Relatability
30:02 Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation
34:33 Impact of Self-Determination in Workplaces
36:20 Dark Sides of Self-Determination Theory
38:54 CrossFit and Community Building
41:07 Incorporating Self-Determination in Daily Life
45:26 Navigating Interests and Decision Fatigue
49:53 New Year's Goals
Michael Fulwiler specializes in helping therapists and mental health organizations enhance their marketing strategies. We'll discuss the importance of understanding your target audience, the common mistakes therapists make in their marketing, and actionable tips for creating effective, clear messaging. Michael shares his journey from a student intern to the Chief Marketing Officer at the Gottman Institute, emphasizing the value of niche marketing and ethical promotion.
00:49 Michael's Journey into Therapist Marketing
01:52 Working with the Gottman Institute
03:58 Challenges in Therapist Marketing
04:57 Effective Marketing Strategies for Therapists
05:51 Common Mistakes in Therapist Marketing
08:42 Mindset Shifts for Therapists in Marketing
11:18 Ethical and Authentic Marketing
13:38 Optimizing Therapist Websites
16:28 Crafting a Clear Marketing Message
18:47 Defining a Somatic Approach
19:47 Holistic vs. Research-Based Therapy
20:58 Couples Therapy Marketing Strategies
23:34 Importance of Clear Messaging
26:03 Exercises for Effective Marketing
31:18 Local SEO and Google Business Profile
33:09 Final Thoughts on Therapist Marketing
Michael's Resources
Website: https://michaelfulwiler.com/
Therapy Marketer Newsletter: https://www.therapymarketer.co/
Brittani's Resources
Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow
Intimacy Workbook: https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
Dating habits you need in 2026.
00:49 Reflecting on the New Year
01:54 The Dating Therapists: New Series Introduction
03:23 Balancing Dating and Personal Growth
05:49 Exploring New Social Activities
16:08 Intentional Dating and Ambivalence
29:10 Discovering Hidden Gems
29:17 Crafting Engaging Stories
29:49 Personalizing Your Profile
30:55 Profile Grammar and Spelling
34:14 Balancing Self and Relationships
36:33 Men and Achievement in Relationships
45:40 Setting Realistic Goals
55:48 Foundations of a Healthy Lifestyle
Cheers to 2026! Welcome to this solo episode deep dive into fresh starts, self determination theory, and my personal goals for this year on the podcast. Enjoy!
We may not enjoy regret, but we can make it useful. Brittani and Drew are here to talk about how we can examine the emotional landscape of regret to help us understand what we want for our lives. Check out the resources for articles and more in the show notes. Enjoy!
00:00 Introduction to Regret
00:02 Emotional Landscape of Regret
00:58 Personal Experiences and Identity
01:33 Religion and Regret
02:26 Career Choices and Regret
03:20 The Power of Regret
04:27 Mindfulness and Optimism
Episode Resources
Regret Research:
https://www.danpink.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Results-of-the-American-Regret-Project.pdf
Unlocking Us Podcast: https://brenebrown.com/podcast/the-power-of-regret/
Podcast Resources
Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow
Intimacy Workbook: https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
Understand play therapy & integrative family dynamics with Hannah Edwardson, LCMHC. Hannah is a Synergetic Play Therapy certified provider working with kiddos and parents. She uses the family system to help parents understand their children and help children understand their nervous system through play. Enjoy this comprehensive exploration on the importance of play for all.
00:33 Hannah's Journey into Play Therapy
02:04 Working with Different Age Groups
03:04 Common Issues in Child Therapy
04:57 Nervous System Regulation in Kids vs. Adults
11:32 Integrating Therapy with School Systems
18:17 Parental Involvement and Challenges
24:44 Balancing Child Autonomy and Parental Authority
26:23 Generational Trauma and Parenting Support
27:01 Balancing Parenting and Personal Support
27:26 COVID Babies and Parenting Challenges
28:33 Role of Therapists as Advocates for Children
29:10 Role Play: Handling Mealtime Tantrums
30:05 Strategies for Encouraging Children to Eat
40:03 Role Play: Managing Sibling Conflicts
47:06 Disrupting Patterns and Building Connections
48:05 Conclusion and Resources
Hannah's Resources:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/counselingwithkiddos/
Website: https://www.carolinacounselingandplaytherapy.com/
Brittani:
Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow
Intimacy Workbook: https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
In this episode of the How to Relate Podcast, we explore the topic of confidence with Ashley Emmons. Ashley shares her unique journey from paralegal to therapist, experiences in wilderness therapy, and private practice. The conversation delves into confidence distortions, examining perfectionism, and practical approaches to building genuine self-trust. Ashley also discusses her Confidence Cohorts, a women's coaching program to help cultivate self-trust and confidence. Additionally, she invites listeners to a free holiday workshop focused on maintaining confidence during the holiday season.
00:00 Introduction and Warm Welcome
01:23 The Journey to Becoming a Therapist
03:50 Wilderness Therapy and Career Transition
07:18 Graduate School and Yoga Therapy
10:08 Private Practice and Specialization
12:22 Understanding Confidence and Perfectionism
20:54 Confidence Distortions and Data Gathering
24:35 Aligning Nervous System and Mindful Responses
25:49 Confidence Distortions: Identifying and Debunking
32:13 The Impact of Self-Criticism on Self-Trust
34:17 Urgency and Its Effect on Confidence
40:32 The Power of Group Dynamics in Building Confidence
45:58 Upcoming Workshops and Programs
49:57 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Ashley's Resources:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/_ashleyemmons_/
Confidence Cohorts: https://www.mondaywellness.com/cohorts
Intro Call: https://mondaywellness.hbportal.co/public/682b41d95df02c0007a09acf
How to Relate:
Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
Get your free Intimacy Workbook https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
How to Relate Newsletter https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc For deep dives into relational topics that give you insight and action for how you can relate better
Jaclyn Ditter is back! We're reviewing the best and worst dating events of 2025. Plust why Charleston is the city for men to date, are run clubs still the new dating app, and how to approach people at the gym. Enjoy!
00:54 Charleston Adventures
03:05 Relocation Thoughts
05:26 Dating Dynamics and Social Skills
08:49 Speed Dating Experience
11:53 Pitch a Friend Event
14:16 Pickleball and Social Events
17:55 Run Clubs and Socializing
21:10 Gym Etiquette and Approaching People
24:58 Bold Moves at the Gym
25:25 Building Familiarity in Shared Spaces
26:11 Navigating Gym Etiquette
26:46 Approaching Conversations with Confidence
27:36 The Importance of Social Cues
28:13 Making Friends at the Gym
29:11 Shifting Focus from Dating to Community
31:17 First Date Conversations
31:56 Discussing Religion and Values Early On
38:16 The Role of Dating Apps
39:48 The Challenge of Choice Fatigue
42:19 Men and Women in the Dating Scene
44:59 Practical Tips for Improving Your Dating Life
46:29 The Barista Challenge
49:21 Podcast Update
Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
Get your free Intimacy Workbook https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
How to Relate Newsletter https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc For deep dives into relational topics that give you insight and action for how you can relate better
Daniel Fleshner, LPC, AASECT Certified therapist shares his experiences with mental health tech companies, and offers a balanced perspective on the optimistic and cautionary aspects of AI in therapy.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:12 Discussing AI in Therapy
00:44 Challenges in Mental Health Tech
02:41 Insurance and Mental Health
08:28 Global Healthcare Systems
09:47 Consulting in Mental Health Tech
13:24 AI and Therapy Innovations
18:11 Ethical Concerns with AI Therapists
22:34 AI in Relationships
25:51 The Personalization of AI
27:13 Hopes for AI in Therapy
27:57 Therapists' Perspectives on AI
32:04 Ethical Concerns with Data Usage
39:51 AI and Intimacy
46:54 Final Thoughts and Contact Information
Daniel:
https://inflectionpointtherapy.com/about-daniel/
Disrupted Therapist Substack: https://thedisruptedtherapist.substack.com/about
Brittani-
https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
Get your free Intimacy Workbook https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
For deep dives into relational topics that give you insight and action for how you can relate better, sign up for the How to Relate Newsletter https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
Explore 7 verbs of intimacy, blocks, and understand how you can deepen intimacy with self and others.
00:31 Exploring Different Types of Intimacy
01:56 The Seven Verbs of Intimacy
03:02 Understanding the Verb 'Ask'
04:19 The Importance of 'Taking'
05:19 The Vulnerability of 'Receiving'
06:58 The Act of 'Giving'
09:34 The Power of 'Refusing'
11:55 The Joy of 'Playing'
14:26 Identifying Intimacy Blockers
17:10 Addressing Maladaptive Patterns
Show Resources:
Intimacy Blockers: Understand and Unblock
https://app.kit.com/publications/17948707/reports/overview
Esther Perel Blog:
https://www.estherperel.com/blog/language-of-intimacy-and-7-verbs
Connect:
Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
Get your free Intimacy Workbook https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
How to Relate Newsletter https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
Shame runs deep inside all of us. What if we switched the narrative from eradicating shame to working with it? Drew and Brittani deep dive into the definitions, origin stories of shame, and how we can begin our healing journey.
02:17 Podcast Format Change Announcement
04:28 Deep Dive into Shame
04:55 Defining Shame and Its Impact
10:23 Shame in Development and Relationships
23:43 Shame vs. Other Emotions
28:07 The Garden Analogy for Shame
28:48 The Garden of Shame and Secrets
29:58 Addiction and the Power of Secrets
31:35 Exploring Vulnerability
33:05 Vulnerability in Dating
35:57 The Role of Hope in Vulnerability
37:18 Healthy Shame and Narcissism
43:01 Brene Brown's Approach to Shame
44:45 Narcissism and Leadership
50:04 Rewriting Our Stories
57:58 Final Thoughts on Shame and Vulnerability
Get your free Intimacy Workbook https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
For deep dives into relational topics that give you insight and action for how you can relate better, sign up for the How to Relate Newsletter https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
A wounded Marine combat veteran, Chris overcame his own challenges and is now a thriving psychotherapist. With a foundation in cognitive behavioral therapy, he specializes in EMDR for performance enhancement and psychedelic integration therapy. Having worked with 7-figure business executives and startup founders, military combat and special operations veterans, athletes, creatives, first responders, and other clinicians - he has a passion for helping people reach their highest potential. Over the past decade he's served on various public health, non-profit, and advisory boards; as well as national committees focused on clinical quality and rehabilitation research. Chris is a founder and the CEO of Helicon, a public benefit corporation committed to advancing EMDR for societal mental health.
00:11 Exploring EMDR and Its Challenges
01:50 Building a Tech Platform for Therapists
02:46 Marketing Insights and Collaborations
03:52 Helicon: Vision and Implementation08:12 Understanding EMDR: A Deep Dive
15:31 Personal Experiences with EMDR
24:55 Transitioning to Private Practice
25:26 Introduction to Psychedelic Therapy
25:48 Introduction to Psychedelic Studies
26:08 Training During COVID
26:48 Parallels Between Psychedelic Therapy and EMDR
27:51 Exploring Psychedelic Therapy
30:29 Ethical Considerations and Guidelines
31:02 Phases of Psychedelic Assisted Therapy
32:15 EMDR in Psychedelic Therapy
34:56 Neuroplasticity and Psychedelic Therapy
36:36 Client Experiences and Outcomes
43:24 Addressing Skepticism and Trust
47:46 Contact Information and Conclusion
Learn more about Helicon: gowithhelicon.com Connect with Chris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cdbrownvet/
Brittani-
https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/
Get your free Intimacy Workbook https://relate-co.kit.com/b956780219
For deep dives into relational topics that give you insight and action for how you can relate better, sign up for the How to Relate Newsletter https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc
Therapist Threads Newsletter:
https://relate-co.kit.com/069297fffb
00:20 Event Overview: North Carolina Sport and Performance Professionals Conference
01:41 The Importance of Community and Real-Life Connections
02:27 Building a Supportive Team for Athletes
13:54 Challenges and Benefits of Planning the Conference
19:59 Final Thoughts and Encouragement to Join
21:45 Introduction and Sign-Up Information
22:16 Welcome Back to the Podcast
22:31 Event Overview and Details
23:52 Importance of Community and Teamwork
27:27 Broadening the Definition of Athlete
30:38 Conference Schedule and Activities
35:25 Planning and Challenges
41:28 Final Thoughts and Encouragement



