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Bricks, Bytes, and Bold Moves: The Future of Real Estate with Fifth Dimension

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Welcome to 'Bricks, Bytes & Bold Moves: The Future of Real Estate,' where next-gen tech is redefining property as we know it. Join our hosts Johnny Morris and Dr. Kate Jarvis, Co-Founders of Fifth Dimension, as they explore how AI is creating the future of real estate today.


Each episode brings you insider conversations with industry leaders, real-world applications, and actionable insights. Whether you're a tech-savvy real estate professional or an industry leader looking to stay ahead of the curve, this bi-weekly series delivers the knowledge and strategies you need to thrive in the evolving real estate landscape. 


Tune in every other week for 30-45 minutes of expert discussions, practical applications, and future-focused insights that will equip you to succeed in this new era as a real estate professional.

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In this podcast episode, Dr. Kate Jarvis sits down with Samantha Kempe, Chief Investment Officer and co-founder of IMMO, a Series B PropTech transforming residential real estate investment in Europe. They explore how technology is unlocking the largest asset class in the world - Europe's €40 trillion residential market - which institutions have historically ignored 96% of due to fragmentation and inefficiency. Samantha shares her journey from accidentally falling into real estate at Cushman &...
In this podcast episode, Johnny Morris sits down with James, Global Head of AI and Data at Gleeds and host of Project Flux. They explore the transformative impact of AI on construction and real estate, discussing how professionals must embrace education and experimentation rather than viewing AI as just a "tech problem." James shares stories about people having their 'light bulb moment' with AI - that instant when everything clicks and they suddenly see how the technology can transform thei...
In this episode, Dr. Kate Jarvis sits down with Michael Mandel, CEO and Co-founder of CompStak, who shares his journey from commercial real estate broker to PropTech innovator. Michael recounts how he identified inefficiencies in the way brokers exchanged lease comparables and built a solution that has fundamentally changed how the industry accesses and utilizes data. Michael discusses the challenges of launching a real estate technology company before "PropTech" was even a term, finding the ...
In this episode, host Dr. Kate Jarvis speaks with Max Beard from Knight Frank's Innovations team about the transformative impact of AI on the property sector. Max shares insights from his role driving technological adoption at one of the world's leading real estate consultancies. From practical AI implementation challenges to long-term industry disruption, they explore how Knight Frank balances cutting-edge technology with the human expertise that remains essential in real estate. Discover ho...
In this episode, Johnny Morris sits down with Drs. Nikodem and Monika Szumilo to explore the transformative impact of AI on real estate education and practice. As Director of the Bartlett Real Estate Institute at UCL, Nikodem brings an economic perspective to AI adoption in property markets, while Monika, a physics lecturer and AI engineer, offers technical insight into how these systems actually work. The conversation delves into thought-provoking questions about AI creativity, the evolution...
In this episode, Dr. Kate Jarvis speaks with Lucy Gordon, CEO and Founder of Excel in Property, about the critical role of financial modeling in real estate investment decisions. Lucy shares her journey from aspiring architect to Excel expert, discussing how she discovered her passion for building complex financial models for non-traditional assets like hotels and residential trading platforms. The conversation explores the importance of accurate cash flow forecasting, using models as negotia...
In this episode, Dr. Kate Jarvis and Johnny Morris of Fifth Dimension explore AI's evolving impact on real estate. They discuss why certain AI features capture public imagination while others remain underutilised, contrasting viral Studio Ghibli-style images with powerful but less celebrated deep research capabilities that can synthesise information from hundreds of sources. Kate and Johnny examine the significant gap between experimental AI development platforms like Lovable, which enable pe...
In this episode, Dr. Kate Jarvis sits down with the CEO and Co-founder of Cherre, L.D. Salmanson to discuss his journey building a cutting-edge data infrastructure platform for the real estate industry. The conversation explores the complex challenges of real estate data management, where everything from square footage calculations to lease terms can be defined differently across markets and even within the same organization. You'll hear how Cherre's platform tackles the fragmented data lands...
In this episode, Johnny Morris speaks with Antony Slumbers, a pioneer in real estate technology, educator, and entrepreneur. They dive into how artificial intelligence is transforming the real estate industry and why leaders must "lean in" to this technology. Antony shares his perspective on AI as a general purpose technology that will become ubiquitous across all aspects of real estate operations, emphasizing that companies should be focusing on how to 10X their productivity with smaller, mo...
In this episode, Dr. Kate Jarvis speaks with James Pellatt, a forward-thinker who recognised tech's potential in real estate before others. James shares insights from his remarkable career, including his transformative work implementing Building Information Modeling (BIM) at Great Portland Estates and his current role helping real estate businesses embrace digital transformation as a Founder of Digital Trees. The conversation explores the psychology of technology adoption, the challenges of m...
Join Fifth Dimension co-founders Dr. Kate Jarvis (CEO) and Johnny Morris (CPO) in a fireside chat for the season finale of Bricks, Bites, and Bold Moves: The Future of Real Estate. As they reflect on 2024's AI journey - moving past "AI is magic" toward practical ROI discussions - they explore how AI is reshaping real estate operations, the crucial role of human expertise, and what distinguishes genuine innovation from vaporware. They discuss the future of AI adoption in real estate, predictin...
In this episode, Ross Gissane, Sector Managing Director at Arcadis, shares his journey from traditional building surveying to embracing cutting-edge technology. From his early days using chain surveys to exploring the potential AI, Ross offers fascinating insights into how the profession is transforming. He discusses the increasing complexity of modern buildings, the challenges of data collection, and why surveyors should embrace AI as a powerful tool rather than view it as a threat. With pra...
In this episode, Andrew Knight, Global Lead in AI Data and Technology at RICS, shares his perspective on the intersection of artificial intelligence and real estate. Drawing from his 14-year tenure at RICS and extensive background in technology, Andrew discusses why the industry needs to move beyond the 'PropTech' label and focus on solving fundamental business challenges. He provides practical insights on transforming document-heavy processes, the evolution of Building Information Modelling ...
In this episode, host Dr. Kate Jarvis sits down with Katie Palencsar, an experienced advisor to early-stage businesses and former leader of the Female Innovators Lab at Anthemis. Drawing from her experience selling technology to education and financial institutions, Katie shares invaluable insights on how legacy businesses can thoughtfully embrace innovation. Through practical examples and lessons learned, she discusses how organisations can start small with AI adoption while maintaining trus...
In this conversation, Vanessa Hale, Head of Research and Strategy at BNP Paribas Real Estate, shares her journey in the real estate industry, the evolution of technology, and the impact of AI on the sector. She discusses current trends in commercial and residential real estate, the role of generative AI, and offers insights on how professionals can adapt to the changing landscape. Vanessa emphasises the importance of collaboration, education, and embracing technology while also highlighting t...
Dr. Kate Jarvis and Johnny Morris, co-founders of Fifth Dimension, wrap up 2025 and share predictions for 2026, cutting through AI agent hype to reveal what actually drives results in real estate. They explain why their 2025 prediction came true - that "hire an AI employee" marketing would flop. Domain-specific complexity means you can't just buy a generalist agent called "Dean" to run your development business. Success requires decomposing workflows, not magical one-click solutions. The conv...
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