Follow 2 Lead: A Christian Leaders Podcast

In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Kristen LaValley for a meaningful conversation on leadership, humility, identity, and the power of storytelling. Kristen shares why one of the most important leadership skills isn’t confidence—but the willingness to be wrong, learn, and grow. Tony and Kristen explore how great leaders create safe spaces where people feel seen, heard, and valued. Through her work hosting retreats and writing, Kristen has witnessed firsthand how storytelling can bring healing, clarity, and deeper connection. They discuss how writing becomes a tool for personal growth, helping leaders better understand themselves and lead with authenticity. The conversation also dives into the role of community in shaping identity and leadership, and how spiritual storytelling can foster transformation in both the storyteller and the listener. Kristen reflects on her own writing journey, emphasizing that leadership is not about having everything figured out—but about showing up with humility, curiosity, and openness to growth. This episode is a powerful reminder that leadership is deeply human. It’s built through shared stories, honest reflection, and the courage to create environments where people can grow and belong. Coaching Question: “Where in your leadership might humility—specifically the willingness to be wrong—unlock deeper trust, growth, and connection?” Connect with Kristen LaValley: • Website: kristenlavalley.com  • Instagram: @kristen.lavalley  • Substack: kristenlavalley.substack.com  • Books & author info: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Kristen... Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutions https://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Network: https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coaching https://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Tony on Instagram   / twmilt   Check out our YouTube page    / @twmilt   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Kara for a meaningful conversation about the core skills that shape healthy leadership and thriving workplace culture. At the center of the discussion is one essential truth: the most important leadership skill is communication. Tony and Kara explore how thoughtful leadership requires leaders to consider not just what they say, but the impact their words have on people, culture, and community. Kara shares her personal journey of understanding workplace culture and how feedback—when normalized and modeled well—can become a powerful tool for growth rather than fear. The conversation also highlights the importance of discernment in leadership decisions, establishing clear non‑negotiables, and intentionally cultivating a positive culture instead of assuming it will develop on its own. Kara reflects on how podcasting helped clarify her message and build confidence, and why great leaders often show up as caregivers, mentors, and consistent presences in the lives of others. This episode is a practical and reflective guide for leaders who want to communicate more clearly, build healthier teams, and lead with thoughtfulness, care, and conviction. Coaching Question: “How intentionally are you shaping your culture through the way you communicate—and what feedback are you willing to invite that could make you a better leader?” Instagram:   / heykaralist   LinkedIn:   / heykaralist   Resources by topic: https://www.heykaralist.com/grow To connect or learn more about future cohorts, email mailto:Kara@karalist.co Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutions https://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Network: https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coaching https://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Tony on Instagram   / twmilt   Check out our YouTube page    / @twmilt   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://secure.givelively.org/donate/lydias-mission/lydia-s-mission-climb-4-kids/tony-miltenberger https://lydiasmission.org/ In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, host Tony Miltenberger sits down with Claire Kriel, co‑founder of Lydia’s Mission, to explore what it means to build a community and mission that empowers women, supports families, and brings kingdom‑centered transformation to the world. Claire shares the inspiring story behind Lydia’s Mission — a ministry rooted in compassion, hospitality, and the belief that every person has inherent value and purpose. They dive into how intentional community, thoughtful discipleship, and practical support can help people navigate real‑world challenges and grow in faith, resilience, and leadership. The conversation also highlights how mission‑driven work flourishes when it’s anchored in relationships, humility, and a commitment to serving others well. Listeners will hear practical wisdom on the importance of mercy ministries, developing leaders through real engagement, and the role of collaborative networks in extending influence beyond a single setting. Whether you’re a ministry leader, pastor, business owner, or someone passionate about meaningful service, this dialogue offers encouragement and insight for stepping into impact with purpose and joy. ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Links mentioned in the episode: Give to Tony's Climb! Listen to Mitch on the podcast! In this solo episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger shares leadership lessons shaped by personal experience and reflections from a recent trip to South Africa. With clarity and conviction, Tony challenges the common assumption that leadership begins with a title—arguing instead that leadership starts with movement, responsibility, and faithful presence. Tony unpacks the real tensions leaders face between cultural realities and their kingdom calling, reminding listeners that the noise of the world can’t be allowed to drown out what God is asking of them. He emphasizes that some of the most meaningful leadership isn’t flashy—it’s the hard, consistent work of showing up, doing what needs to be done, and staying faithful even when results are slow. Throughout the episode, Tony encourages listeners to discern their calling, take responsibility for the needs around them, and commit to the next small (but significant) step forward. This is an invitation to lead with conviction, consistency, and courage—without waiting for permission. ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sign up for our monthly resource at twmilt.com! In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Rebekah Scott for an inspiring conversation on the transformative power of creativity. Rebekah shares the personal moment that sparked her passion for creating spaces where people can experience the joy of making something—and in the process, rediscover their voice, value, and identity. Together, they explore how creativity isn’t just a hobby—it’s a powerful pathway to self-expression, personal growth, and community connection. Bekah unpacks why encouraging bravery in the creative process helps people step into unique, authentic expression, and how creating something can remind individuals they were made with purpose and worth. This conversation is a reminder that creativity can “light someone up,” build confidence, foster belonging, and ultimately make an impact far beyond the moment—pointing people toward kingdom-minded influence through everyday acts of creation. https://www.encouragerpodcast.com/ https://www.instagram.com/encouragerpodcast/ ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Fallon Klug for a thoughtful conversation on leadership, influence, and personal growth. Fallon shares her journey of recognizing herself as a leader—not through a title, but through influence, care, and presence in the lives of others. Together, Tony and Fallon explore why many people resist calling themselves leaders, even when they clearly have influence. Fallon reframes leadership through the lens of caregiving, emphasizing that showing up with empathy, curiosity, and love is often the most powerful form of leadership. The conversation highlights how curiosity fosters kindness, deepens understanding, and strengthens relationships—especially in creative and collaborative environments. Fallon also reflects on how improv has shaped her leadership and life, teaching her to embrace discomfort, stay present, and adapt with confidence. They discuss navigating career pivots, working with creative personalities, and the importance of having wise counsel when making bold decisions. The episode closes with a meaningful reflection on a youth pastor who modeled humility, honesty, and care—leaving a lasting imprint of what leadership can and should look like. This conversation is an encouraging reminder that leadership is less about position and more about presence, listening, and serving others well. https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ https://www.instagram.com/tsfnetwork/ ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have you filled out our benchmark yet? https://follow2leadbenchmark.com/# Check out Carlos! https://www.carloswhittaker.com/ https://www.instagram.com/loswhit In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Carlos Whitaker for a thoughtful and timely conversation about leadership, personal growth, and the ways life experiences—especially grief—shape how we lead. Carlos shares why leadership isn’t reserved for those with titles, but is something every person carries through influence and presence. Throughout the conversation, Carlos reflects on the evolution of his own leadership journey, including how seasons of loss and reflection have reshaped his priorities, pace, and posture. Together, Tony and Carlos explore what it looks like to lead with steadiness in a world driven by noise, urgency, and reaction—choosing to bring light instead of heat. The episode also touches on Carlos’s passion for supporting parents, the importance of balancing new hobbies with real-life responsibilities, and why stepping back can sometimes be the most powerful leadership move. Carlos introduces themes from his upcoming book, Burn the Blueprint, which challenges traditional definitions of success and invites leaders to rethink the scripts they’ve been handed. This conversation is an encouragement for leaders who feel tired of striving, unsure of the next step, or quietly carrying influence without recognition. It’s a reminder that some of the most impactful leadership is steady, reflective, and rooted in authenticity. ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fill out our leadership benchmark assessment here! https://follow2leadbenchmark.com/# In this solo episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger pulls back the curtain on a pivotal season of transformation—both personally and professionally. Tony shares the clarity he’s gained around his true calling: not simply building a media company, but helping transform the lives of leaders in meaningful, lasting ways. Tony outlines his vision for 2026, revealing a strategic shift in the podcast’s direction. Rather than chasing trends, he plans to focus on answering the most Googled leadership questions, partnering with trusted subject‑matter experts to deliver practical, relevant insights leaders are actively searching for. This approach reflects Tony’s belief that real growth doesn’t come from consuming information alone, but from applying wisdom in everyday leadership. The episode also looks ahead to an ambitious and inspiring 2027 project, where Tony will climb Mount Kilimanjaro and release a companion book shaped by the conversations and leadership principles explored on the podcast. This journey serves as a powerful metaphor for the climb leaders face in their own lives—growth, endurance, and transformation through intentional action. This episode is an invitation for listeners to reflect on their own calling, redefine success, and commit to becoming the kind of leader who doesn’t just learn—but lives out transformation. ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Kristin Thomas Miller, co‑founder of Leadership Pathway, for an inspiring conversation about raising up the next generation of church leaders. Together, they unpack why intentional development, mentorship, and hands‑on ministry experiences are essential for the long‑term health of the church. Kristin shares her personal journey into leadership development and the vision behind launching Leadership Pathway—a residency‑based model designed to prepare young leaders for real‑world ministry. Tony and Kristin explore the challenges of bridging generational gaps, the importance of modeling healthy leadership, and why churches must move from hoping young leaders show up to actively building them. This episode casts a hopeful vision for the future of the church and offers practical guidance for pastors, mentors, and congregations who want to invest meaningfully in emerging leaders. ✅ Three Actionable Takeaways 1. Create intentional pathways for young leaders.Don’t wait for leaders to emerge—build structured residency or apprenticeship experiences that give young adults real responsibility and real support. 2. Bridge generational gaps through relationship, not assumption.Young leaders thrive when older leaders listen, mentor, and invite them into meaningful conversations rather than expecting them to adapt alone. 3. Invest early, often, and personally.The future of the church depends on today’s leaders prioritizing mentorship, modeling healthy leadership, and creating environments where emerging leaders can grow and belong. https://www.leadershippathway.org/ https://www.youtube.com/@leadershippathway8924/videos Connect with our sponsors: Please donate today at MercyShips.org/podcast Visit OmahaSteaks.com for 50% off sitewide during their Sizzle All the Way Sale. And for an extra $35 off, usepromo code FUN at checkout. ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Joey Odom, co‑founder of a technology‑health company and a leading voice on digital wellness, to explore how technology shapes our relationships, parenting, and spiritual lives. Joey offers honest insight into the tension between a tech‑driven world and the desire to be fully present with the people who matter most. Together, Tony and Joey unpack the importance of modeling healthy tech habits for our children, cultivating meaningful daily disciplines, and creating memories that outlast any digital distraction. Joey shares the story behind launching a tech‑health company and reflects on redefining success—not by financial metrics, but by impact, transformation, and deeper relational connection. This conversation is both challenging and hopeful, offering parents, leaders, and communities practical guidance for building a healthier relationship with technology while strengthening the bonds that make life meaningful. https://reclaimwell.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeyodom/ Please support our partners! Please donate today at MercyShips.org/podcast Visit OmahaSteaks.com for 50% off sitewide during their Sizzle All the Way Sale. And for an extra $35 off, usepromo code FUN at checkout. ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with acclaimed audiobook narrator Tom Parks, whose journey from pastoring a church to narrating more than 800 audiobooks is as unexpected as it is inspiring. Tom opens up about how he stumbled into audiobook narration, what he’s learned from voicing hundreds of titles, and how strong communication and meaningful relationships have shaped every part of his life. Tom offers a behind‑the‑scenes look at the audiobook production process—from preparation and performance in the booth to the essential collaboration with editors and engineers. Beyond the technical side, he shares how narration has sharpened his leadership skills, especially the ability to adapt communication styles to different audiences. The conversation also touches on balancing demanding creative work with personal life, the joy of cruise‑ship lecturing, and the power of saying “yes” to unexpected opportunities. Tom reflects on the wisdom he’s gained from the books he’s narrated—not in the titles themselves, but in the timeless principles they’ve taught him. This episode is a warm and insightful conversation for leaders, creatives, communicators, and anyone navigating a career pivot or seeking to grow in relational leadership. ✅ Three Practical Takeaways Adapt your communication to your audience. Great leadership isn’t about speaking loudly—it’s about speaking clearly in a way others can receive. Value relationships more than self‑promotion. Whether in narration, ministry, or leadership, long-term success is built on trust, kindness, and collaboration. Trust the process and enjoy the journey. Tom’s career shift shows that unexpected paths often lead to meaningful work—if you stay curious, grateful, and willing to take the next step. Connect with our sponsors: Please donate today at MercyShips.org/podcast Visit OmahaSteaks.com for 50% off sitewide during their Sizzle All the Way Sale. And for an extra $35 off, usepromo code FUN at checkout. Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutions https://www.ebebsolutions.com/ Greg Fay Insurance: https://www.gregfayinsurance.com/ That Sounds Fun Network: https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coaching https://www.follow2leadcoaching.com/quiz Tony on Instagram   / twmilt   Check out our YouTube page    / @twmilt   Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Peter Ostapko, founder of Kinsman, for a deep and insightful conversation on the evolving role of men in today’s culture. As societal expectations shift and confusion around masculinity grows, many men are searching for identity, purpose, and authentic connection. Peter shares how his own desire for meaningful community led to the creation of Kinsman—a ministry focused on helping men grow through faith, fatherhood, work, and intentional brotherhood. https://kinsmen.org/ Connect with our sponsors: Please donate today at MercyShips.org/podcast Visit OmahaSteaks.com for 50% off sitewide during their Sizzle All the Way Sale. And for an extra $35 off, usepromo code FUN at checkout. ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this inspiring episode, Tony Miltenberger sits down with writer and creator Erica Gwynn to explore her journey of cultivating a community rooted in joy, authenticity, and emotional honesty. Erica opens up about her calling to uplift others, the values that anchor her life, and the intentional way she brings vulnerability into her work. Together, Tony and Erica unpack the creative process, the importance of telling the truth—even when it’s hard—and how content creation has shaped her personal growth. Erica shares the heart behind her latest book, including the dedication to her family, and reflects on how navigating truths and lies has influenced her leadership and spiritual maturity. This conversation offers encouragement for anyone who has ever struggled with consistency, feared the opinions of others, or wondered whether their voice matters. Erica reminds listeners that living authentically, embracing your journey, and showing up consistently can lead to profound impact over time. This episode will inspire you to lean into authenticity, reject comparison, and pursue the work God has placed on your heart. ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this powerful episode, Tony Miltenberger sits down with award-winning Christian artist Evan Craft to talk about faith, purpose, and what truly matters beyond success. Evan opens up about his journey from chasing achievements to discovering the emptiness of accomplishment without obedience to God. He shares how serving others, forgiving quickly, and building a trusted team have shaped his leadership and spiritual maturity. Tony and Evan dig into the interruptions, detours, and “holy disruptions” that God uses to redirect our lives. Evan reflects on generosity, humility, and the importance of seeking God’s will over personal ambition. Whether you’re a leader, creative, or someone navigating a season of uncertainty, this conversation will encourage you to slow down, pay attention to God’s nudges, and pursue a life defined by purpose—not performance. Topics covered include: • Hearing and obeying God’s calling • How success without purpose leads to emptiness • The role of generosity in spiritual growth • Navigating interruption and redirection • Building a healthy, trustworthy team • Leading with kindness and forgiveness • Learning from mistakes and staying humble • Aligning ambition with God’s will This episode will challenge and inspire you to rethink what real success looks like through the lens of faith, service, and obedience. https://www.evancraftmusic.com/ https://www.instagram.com/evancraft/ ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this powerful and inspiring episode, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Kenz Durham and Mac Bridges, the founders of Delight Ministries, to explore how a small college gathering turned into a nationwide movement impacting thousands of young women. They share how faith, friendship, and bold obedience to God led to the creation of a community that helps women grow together in Christ. The conversation dives deep into themes of leadership, partnership, and the importance of authentic community, as well as their newest Bible study, The Wild Invitation. Kenz and Mac offer wisdom on how to lead with courage, trust God through uncertainty, and build ministries rooted in real relationships. https://forthegirl.com/bible-studies https://www.instagram.com/forthegirl___/?hl=en ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this powerful episode of Follow 2 Lead, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Chris Freeman, pastor of City Church, one of the fastest-growing churches in America. Together they unpack the remarkable story behind the church’s explosive growth and the lessons learned along the way. Chris shares how empowering high-capacity leaders, protecting character, and cultivating accountability have been foundational in City Church’s success. He opens up about the creative methods used to keep young men engaged and responsible—yes, including pushups—and the daily disciplines that help leaders stay faithful to their calling. This conversation is a masterclass in leading through rapid growth without losing sight of humility, integrity, and God’s heart for diversity. Whether you’re a pastor, ministry leader, or entrepreneur, you’ll walk away inspired to dream bigger, lead better, and build teams rooted in faith and character. https://www.forthecity.com/about-us https://www.instagram.com/chris.s.freeman/ https://youtu.be/kwEqJOlsN04?si=Q9ryXTUE8i1sBMz1 ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this inspiring conversation, Tony Miltenberger talks with Bobby Gruenewald, founder of the YouVersion Bible App, about the intersection of faith, innovation, and leadership. Bobby shares his remarkable journey from entrepreneur to pastor and app creator, highlighting how a simple idea turned into one of the most widely used Bible tools in the world. He discusses the importance of mission alignment, celebrating milestones, and embracing failure as part of growth. The conversation also explores how technology can be leveraged to serve God’s mission—and not the other way around. Bobby’s perspective on personal growth, team leadership, and the future of digital discipleship will encourage leaders to think big while staying grounded in faith. If you’re passionate about ministry, innovation, or the Bible’s role in modern culture, this episode will challenge and inspire you to keep growing and leading with purpose. https://www.instagram.com/bobbygwald/ https://www.bible.com/ https://www.bible.com/billion ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this engaging conversation, Rory Nicol shares his journey from being a top recruit at Ohio State to facing life-altering challenges, including addiction and injury. He discusses the importance of mentorship, gratitude, and resilience, emphasizing how his experiences have shaped his mission to help others. Through his story, Rory illustrates the power of faith and the significance of holding onto hope, even in the darkest times. Takeaways Emerge is a vital resource for those struggling with addiction. Rory was a top recruit, showcasing the pressures of college sports. Coach Tressel emphasized gratitude and discipline in training. Injury led to a pivotal change in Rory's life. Addiction became a significant challenge during his college years. Rory found purpose in helping others after overcoming addiction. Gratitude plays a crucial role in maintaining a positive mindset. Rory's mission is to prevent others from making similar mistakes. The rope symbolizes connection and support in life. It's never too late to start a meaningful life. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rory-nicol-7b9a8b61/ https://www.emergerecoverytrade.com/ https://rorynicol.org/ ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this engaging episode of Follow 2 Lead, Tony Miltenberger reconnects with Dillon Smith, founder of CMO.Church, to talk about leadership, communication, and the power of unity in the church. Dillon shares lessons learned in his journey as a new dad, insights into email marketing for churches, and why unity in the Big C Church begins with personal relationships. Together, they unpack how to balance business strategy and spiritual mission, the importance of hiring for both culture and competence, and the value of collaboration across ministries. If you’re a church leader, marketer, or simply someone passionate about seeing the church work together more effectively, this conversation offers practical wisdom for growing your influence and impact with purpose. Engagement Requires Strategy – Effective church communication starts with clarity and audience-specific engagement. Unity Starts Small – Building meaningful relationships across ministries and denominations fosters genuine church unity. Balance Spiritual and Strategic – Integrate business-minded tools like email marketing without losing sight of the Great Commission. https://cmochurch.replit.app/ https://www.instagram.com/dillon_m_smith/ ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Summary In this engaging conversation, Monica Tanner shares her journey from a happy childhood to becoming a relationship coach, emphasizing the importance of intentionality in marriages, especially for entrepreneurial couples. She discusses the skills necessary for effective communication, the significance of regular connection, and insights from her book 'Bad Marriage Advice'. Monica also touches on parenting and the challenges of giving advice to married children, ultimately encouraging couples to trust the process of growth and repair in their relationships. https://www.monicatanner.com/ ⁠⁠Please check out our sponsors EBEB Solutions⁠ ⁠Greg Fay Insurance ⁠Trent Barga - The Barga Team Real Estate⁠ ⁠That Sounds Fun Network: ⁠ ⁠Follow 2 Lead Coaching⁠ ⁠Tony on Instagram⁠ ⁠Check out our YouTube page⁠ ⁠Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts⁠ Interested in becoming a sponsor? Contact us here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices