Behind the Seen

In this episode, Mark and Branden sit down with Lisa Fields, the founder of the Jude 3 Project, to discuss the complexities of race, politics, and social justice in America.  They delve into Lisa's background, her journey into ministry, her work with the G3 Project, and the importance of courageous conversations. Together, Branden, Mark and Lisa to think about personal responsibility, the importance of diverse viewpoints, and the transformative power of forgiveness and grace. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Mark and Branden explore the complexities of belonging and acceptance in today’s fragmented culture.  Joined by artist and leader Derek Minor, who shares his journey of resisting divisive systems and promoting authentic relationships, they delve into the shifting nature of community, especially among younger generations, and the role of acceptance in fostering true connection. With the upcoming national election, they reflect on the concept of healing, and the controversial doctrine of hell wrapping up with an exploration of how individuals can be a light in their communities amidst political and social turmoil. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Mark and Branden delve into the complex layers of identity with guest Brian Recker, who has critically reexamined the evangelical environment.  Brian shares his personal journey of deconstructing deeply rooted beliefs, shedding light on biases related to race, religion, and identity. The conversation explores the need for environments that facilitate the exploration of biases, the courage to challenge ingrained beliefs, and the importance of belonging.  They also discuss the impact of evolving perspectives on community, ministry, democracy, and the tension between holding onto traditional values and embracing progressive change.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After a two-year hiatus, hosts Branden Polk and Mark Bauer explore the personal and societal upheavals experienced during their absence.  They discuss the importance of vulnerability, the impact of race, faith, and political divisions, and the broader challenges facing society. As they reflect on their own life transitions and the state of the world, they delve into themes of trust, leadership, and the necessity of meaningful dialogue.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to 'Behind the Scene' with Brandon Polk and Mark Bauer, a podcast dedicated to exploring the complex layers of identity and addressing challenging topics such as racial dynamics, political divides, and gender stereotypes. This season, they will engage in raw and unfiltered conversations with diverse guests, aiming to spark change and foster compassion and connection.  Join them on a journey of growth that goes beyond comfort zones for an enlightening and necessary dialogue. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Continuing with our #CheckTheBox theme for this season, special guest Karith Foster joins us to discuss two boxes we tend to put people in when it comes to the race conversation: Victim or villain. In reality, those labels aren't so cut and dried, especially when you introduce intersectional identities into the mix.  Karith Foster is a comic turned motivational speaker, TV & radio personality, actress, author, blogger and entrepreneur—and her new book, 'You Can Be Perfect or You Can Be Happy,' teaches readers basic concepts for embracing life's messiness. In this episode, we discuss how we can apply these same concepts to the race conversation. Episode Description Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What are barriers to men living conscious, compassionate, connected lives in their homes and communities? How does this apply to the race conversation? Guest: Addison Brasil, VP of branding for tethr, an online peer-to-peer support community for men. Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Tethr: @tethrformen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we discuss policing behavior (behavior of police) and the act of policing other people's behavior in our day-to-day lives. Recent civil unrest around the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police has shined light on inconsistencies in what we view as acceptable policing. More often, policing of any kind is a preservation of power and is an attempt to invalidate those who are being policed. #CheckTheBox Call to Action: Who are you policing in your life in attempt to preserve your power over them? Who is policing you in order to preserve their power over you? If you can identify that behavior is occurring, it will set you up to break free of that oppression to live a more fulfilled, balanced, healthy life. Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode we discuss the killing of Ahmaud Arbery. A lot of white people are being confronted for the first time with the injustice of racism and unsure how to process it. Others are perplexed why race has to be dragged into the equation at all. In this conversation, Branden turns the questions on Mark to discuss how the unexamined identities of white moderates continue to perpetuate racism. The second part of the discussions turns to how to transform guilt into change. Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Before the Tiger King, the quarantine binge was the reality show Love is Blind, which puts strangers in neighboring cubes and allows them to get to know one another without the benefit of seeing each other. Then, they fall in love. Or at least that's the idea. But is love REALLY blind? How do subtle ways we talk even give away things about how we were raised? And if love isn't blind, should it be? That's what we're talking about in today's episode.  Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Has coronavirus altered how you view racial disparity? Has it amplified it? Who are the populations most affected by coronavirus disruptions? Disruptions of this magnitude always allow for a shift in the landscape. When all of this lifts, how can we rebuild more equitably? Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the last episode on racism in dating, Todrick Hall briefly touched on something that a lot of listeners picked up on: Colorism—the idea that whiteness has defined some skin tones and features in people of color as more beautiful and acceptable in society. This twisted idea has resulted in a sort of prejudice and resentment from some blacks toward other blacks. In this episode, we discuss the origins of colorism, why it's an especially nasty form of prejudice, and how to differentiate colorism from legitimate criticisms of anti-black self-hate. Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a freewheeling conversation about dating, singer/songwriter/producer Todrick Hall joins Behind the Seen to discuss our racial “preferences,” how we acquire those preferences in the first place, and why we are OK completely disregarding a different group of people as potential partners based on such inconsequential factors as race. References For more on the breakdown of numbers by Nathalie Reshard looking for a straight black man with multiple degrees, who is a high performing athlete and who has never been to prison, visit her blog post here.  Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's episode, we're talking about code violations. We have our own personal codes, informed by religious texts or some other source, that we violate every day. And we have societal codes, laws and regulations that are in place to help guide, control and keep order in society.  We discuss how easy it is to slip into a cycle of guilt and shame when we violate our codes, and how difficult it is to break that cycle. It takes a certain amount of privilege to be able to carve out the space necessary to reflect on the behaviors that are leading to code violations, as well as to access the tools necessary to then change that behavior. On a macro scale, we see the same kinds of problems at play regarding mass incarceration, which disproportionately affects people of color and the economically disadvantaged. One popular retort is: If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Not only have we shown how this isn't consistently applied to our own lives, we discuss how it's not always as simple as just not doing something. Our experiences don't exist in a vacuum, and many complex factors contribute to crime: poverty, generational traumas and other motivations.  Ultimately, the goal of this episode is simply to get you thinking about the topic of criminal justice and mass incarceration in such a way that makes you curious to learn more. For more about the racial disparity in mass incarceration, please visit the Sentencing Project, which has a wealth of information and data on the topic.  Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Season 2 of Behind the Seen! We kick off season 2 with an episode on what it means to be human. A lot of our experience as humans involves stumbling through life trying to figure out what, exactly, makes us tick. What makes us happy. And we have to do this while simultaneously fighting off identities that the world wants to put on us. But we’re never really able to fully comprehend because we have different things competing for our attention.  How does this factor into racial justice? External conflicts emanate from internal conflict. We quiet our internal conflict by embracing life's greatest paradox: We have to lose our life to find it. When we take our gaze off of ourselves long enough to observe the hurt in someone else, we are fully able to see ourselves. That self-emptying, while it contradicts every base human urge within us, really does lead to a joy that surpasses anything external object we could acquire—whether it's fame, fortune or success.  What identities do you need to lay down in order to #BeSeen? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is actually a replay of one of our favorite episodes from last season. I've experienced a lot of fear the last few weeks around quitting my job and moving to Los Angeles for the summer, and in conversations with friends there seems to be a widespread season of fear that a lot of folks are walking in. So, in this episode we go a little deeper into understanding what fear is trying to tell us and how we can practice getting over that fear.  Continually pushing the boundaries of what you can overcome unlocks a whole new perspective on life when you aren’t inhibited by fear. Notes from Show - Feelings chart by Chip Dodd Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we review the Emanuel documentary, which covers the history of the black church in Charleston leading up to the church shooting in 2015 by Dylan Roof that killed nine congregants, including the pastor. The movie's primary emphasis is on the expressions of forgiveness by family members toward Dylan Roof, less than 48 hours after he committed that heinous act. Co-hosts Mark Bauer and Branden Polk explore the idea of forgiveness and who it is for, and why forgiveness doesn't need to be preceded by repentance for it to be impactful, right and meaningful.  We also dovetail into discussions about the contrast between how white offenders are handled by police during arrests, versus how we commonly see black subjects taken into custody. A recent police shooting of Pamela Turner in Baytown, Texas that was caught on camera illustrates this point.  We also reflect on some points that were raised in a post-screening discussion that Branden and Mark facilitated following a viewing of the film, during which Branden asked attendees for three things black people wished white people would understand about the racial justice conversation, and three things white people wished black people would understand about their perspective on the racial justice conversation. At the end of this episode, we hope you feel compelled to check out the Emanuel documentary in theaters during a limited run June 17 and 19. Let us know your thoughts by following us on social below!  Follow us on Instagram Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk Website Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Oscars never fails to provide good fodder for race discussions and this year proved no different. Despite the diverse representation of presenters throughout the program and several firsts for black honorees and other people of color, the show wasn’t without its detractors. Even the Best Picture winner, Green Book, was widely panned for historical inaccuracies and for how creators approached the storytelling of a black entertainer and his white driver. In this bonus episode of Behind the Seen, filmmaker and producer MoJo Adam and freelance creative director Obi Okolo share their reactions to these Oscar films and discuss why black representation in pop culture and media is so important. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we take the audio from our first Facebook Live that included special guest Bill Riedel, pastor of Redemption Hill Church in Washington DC. We brought pastor Bill on to discuss the race and the gospel series he preached earlier this summer. He discusses what compelled him to teach on this subject and what he learned in the process. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we discuss Justification, a really strong word used both in a legal context and a theological context. Justification is the act of showing something to be right or reasonable. In the theological context, the action of declaring or making righteous in the sight of God. And in the race conversation, what we’ve done historically is justify legally and spiritually the mistreatment of people who look different from us. These justifications aren’t as explicit as they might have been during slavery or Jim Crow, but they continue to influence how we talk about the mistreatment of the other today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices