Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into what a “successful” play experience really means — and why that definition looks different for each of them. They unpack what matters most in play sessions, the changes they’re intentionally making to increase their enjoyment of the lifestyle, and whether build-up enhances the experience or creates unrealistic expectations — or if there’s a sweet spot somewhere in between.The crew explores the idea that fantasy will almost always outshine reality, and why sex with other people rarely compares to the connection you have with your partner. At the same time, they highlight the unique experiences the lifestyle offers that simply aren’t possible without other people involved.They also introduce the “scale” they use to measure play experiences — with sex with their partner sitting at a 10, most lifestyle encounters landing in the mid-5s to 6s, and truly great sessions reaching a 7 or 8. More importantly, they break down the things within their control that can shift those numbers upward and lead to more fulfilling, enjoyable play.It’s an honest, thoughtful conversation about expectations, communication, and finding satisfaction in the lifestyle beyond chasing a perfect fantasy.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) A successful swap is when nobody poops!(00:02:11) Is an orgasm the benchmark for success?(00:03:48) For Brad endurance equals is success(00:07:09) Zack breaks the play experience into separate parts(00:08:39) Should you expect mediocre sex because it’s new?(00:12:07) Letting go on vacation(00:13:00) Asking your play partner what they like before you play(00:16:06) Our experiences are similar but our scales are different(00:21:00) Experiences can be mind blowing even if the sex is not(00:22:14) Identifying things to enjoy aside from your play partner(00:23:44) Brittany’s spider monkey move(00:25:27) Build up is important(00:26:30) Asking questions may be better than assuming(00:28:23) Having an orgasm is not important to some of us(00:30:13) No compensating factors is an issue(00:31:51) Methods and preference for kissing are very personal(00:33:50) Is more communication better?(00:36:04) Somebody typically takes the dominant role in kissing(00:40:21) Fantasy vs reality(00:46:41) Average, above average or below average(00:50:17) It’s impossible to judge what a play session will be like beforehand(00:54:02) What you focus on impacts your enjoyment of the experience(00:57:00) Tongue punching and other kissing techniques We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

Round Three is officially underway — and the confessions are bolder, kinkier, and even more revealing than before. In this latest installment of Sexy Swinger Confessions: Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played, the Two Plus Two crew jumps back into the game that always sparks laughter, honesty, and a few jaw-dropping moments.From golden showers and nipple clamps to role-playing throwbacks and risky public encounters, the hosts break down what’s an enthusiastic yes, a hard no, a curious maybe, and what’s already been checked off the lifestyle bucket list. The conversation heats up as they dive into pegging, degradation play, anonymous experiences, trains, all-girl fun, tantric connections, and even consensual non-consensual dynamics — all with their signature mix of humor, vulnerability, and real-world perspective.As always, this round isn’t just about shock value. It’s about communication, boundaries, curiosity, and how different desires show up in real relationships.Pour a drink, settle in, and get ready for another round of sexy, unfiltered swinger confessions that might just have you rethinking your own Yay, Nay, or May list. Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Here we go! Round Three!!(00:01:47) Golden showers…and peeing with a hard-on(00:06:22) Nipple clamps(00:09:58) Role Playing…a long trip back into the memory banks(00:14:05) Public sex…and the riskiest place you’ve done it(00:21:54) Pegging(00:28:41) Degradation or humiliation play(00:31:06) Anonymous or masked play(00:38:26) Train(00:45:17) All girl play(00:49:44) Tantric or slow sex(00:55:34) Consensual non-consensual (CNC)We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

This isn’t a replay of past episodes—it’s a deeper look at the conversations that didn’t end when the recording stopped. After hearing how certain topics landed with listeners, the crew reflects on what stirred discomfort, curiosity, and strong reactions—and why those responses matter.Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany unpack listener feedback ranging from opinions about Brad’s penis and uncut men (including one listener’s candid personal experience), to the polarized reactions following their conversation with Roger and Jessica—a committed couple exclusive with another couple who don’t identify as poly. When some female listeners admitted they couldn’t even finish that episode, the group explores what may have made it so uncomfortable and encourages a second listen with fresh perspective.The episode also includes a sincere apology to Tharen and Aussie listeners everywhere for mistakenly calling Hugh Jackman British (he’s Australian—lesson learned).Finally, Josie shares the full story of the conversations she had with her two oldest daughters about the lifestyle, the podcast, and Peaches’nCream. Their very different reactions reinforce a key truth first discussed in Episode 59: when it comes to hard conversations, approach matters—sometimes more than the topic itself.JOIN US at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Looping back on episode 41 with Luke and Rickie(00:04:12) Maybe it’s more bi-situational(00:06:04) We had to analyze why we had an aversion to the idea(00:07:28) Is MM sex a turn on?(00:10:51) Three questions for Luke (and Rickie)(00:13:26) Reactions to Brad’s uncut penis(00:16:00) Here’s little Brad!(00:20:17) We apologize to all our Aussie listeners(00:23:26) And we’re back to glory holes(00:24:20) My OB/GYN has a podcast called The PGSpot(00:27:11) What is considered ‘lifestyle’?(00:28:38) Our feelings can be a product of insecurity(00:32:28) Using the ‘L’ word is controversial(00:35:00) If your partner announced they loved a play partner(00:37:14) Playing with fire(00:40:16) Overthinking things is what this podcast is all about(00:40:43) Josie told her 29 year old daughter about the lifestyle(00:46:12) Setting the stage for the next conversation(00:47:22) Josie’s 34 year old daughter’s response was somewhat surprising(00:51:07) She said I was more self aware than before(00:53:03) Your approach matters(00:56:13) Zack wasn’t there for either conversation but felt good about them(00:57:18) Our conversations about the lifestyle has deepened our connection(00:58:42) Exposing ourselves our kids through the podcastWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

Sometimes the healthiest move a couple can make in the lifestyle is to step back.In this episode, the Two Plus Two crew open up about taking breaks—why they happen, how they feel, and what they can reveal about a relationship. Each host shares personal and vulnerable reasons they’ve needed to pause, from forced breaks due to health concerns to intentional step-backs caused by disconnection, burnout, and shifts in intimacy.The discussion centers on the reality that while the lifestyle can be meaningful and fulfilling, it should never take priority over a couple’s relationship, mental health, or family. Navigating that balance can be difficult, especially when trying to remain connected with lifestyle friends without coming across as dismissive, cold, or overly descriptive.This episode explores the emotional and sexual impact of stepping away, including frustration, regret, and the compounding effects of unmet needs. The hosts discuss the importance of trusting instincts, using protection, and communicating where they are emotionally—even when clarity is still forming. They also talk through the challenges of re-engaging after a break, determining when abstaining or testing is appropriate, and reflecting on what they would do differently moving forward.For anyone who has questioned whether it’s acceptable to pause, felt pressure to keep up, or struggled with timing and communication, this episode reinforces an important truth: taking a step back can be healthy, necessary, and relationship-strengthening.Sometimes, timing really is everything.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Defining ‘taking a break’(00:02:41) Exposure to a MGen forced a break(00:04:43) The negative impact to our intimacy and closeness(00:06:03) Disconnection, irritation and regret(00:07:39) Follow your instincts and use protection even in external play(00:09:24) Re-engaging in the lifestyle(00:11:04) You need the release(00:12:20) It compounds and you get ‘backed up’(00:14:27) How do we re-engage after our forced break(00:16:27) Crawling through 1,000 yards of shit(00:18:47) Determining what we each want to communicating that(00:20:40) Is there a universal message here somewhere?(00:22:00) Knowing when abstaining and/or testing is appropriate(00:25:32) What we’ll do differently(00:27:36) Where there’s smoke there’s fire(00:28:27) Early on we had to step out of the lifestyle(00:33:34) The spoon theory(00:36:19) Your state of mind impacts your interest in sex(00:38:22) Communicating where you’re at without being specific(00:41:58) The podcast creates some additional challenges(00:43:00) This response gives you flexibility related to your timeline(00:46:59) Lifestyle people are supportive(00:48:08) Taking a step back is healthy and acceptable(00:49:33) Timing is everything  We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

A listener’s message sparks one of the most emotionally loaded conversations we’ve ever had as lifestyle parents. After receiving a text from her adult daughter that read, “I know about you and dad’s extracurricular activities,” we’re forced to confront a question many couples quietly avoid: What happens when your kids know… or might know… about your life?We unpack the initial wave of fear, embarrassment, and panic, but quickly move beyond the shock to something deeper—what it actually means to live openly and honestly when you’re confident in your choices. While none of our children know yet, Zack and Josie share why they’re preparing to tell their oldest daughters, answering the question Brad and Brittany posed: Why tell them at all?This episode isn’t about justifying the lifestyle or asking for permission. It’s about being grounded in your “why,” trusting yourself, and showing up without defensiveness. We talk about how being “out” can bring relief, clarity, and stronger boundaries, and why authenticity often matters more than perfect timing or flawless delivery.We also explore the realities parents wrestle with—how different kids may react very differently, how siblings can complicate things, and why the real conversation often isn’t about sex at all. It’s about values, honesty, and modeling what it looks like to live a full, intentional life.If you’ve ever wondered whether openness could bring peace—or if staying silent is really protecting anyone—this episode sits right in that uncomfortable, powerful space between fear and freedom.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) MrsCaliente Cookies’ question(00:02:36) Your parents’ sex life(00:04:28) Initial reactions to the message(00:06:35) How did she find out and is it relevant?(00:09:14) A cautionary tale about text messages(00:12:50) Some children can handle it and others may not be able to(00:14:23) Your own opinion of the lifestyle can drive the conversation(00:16:27) Siblings may share the news with one another(00:18:01) Walking in on your parents(00:21:18) I’ve got a secret!(00:22:34) We’re planning to tell our kids soon(00:26:11) Disclaimer: it’s not just about having sex with other people(00:28:31) One couples’ son decided to get in the LS after ‘the conversation’(00:29:44) Focus on being authentic(00:30:25) Is this possible given recent struggles?(00:36:07) Relief can come from being ‘out’(00:37:41) Why the qualifiers?(00:42:15) Request to not play in her daughter’s town(00:46:16) Get to the bottom of the real concerns and address those(00:48:59) Readdressing the conversation after your initial reaction(00:52:44) You don’t need to convince anybody(00:54:00) Living your life for yourself and not your kids  We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

Callie is back—returning guest from our STD episode—for a much-needed deep dive into women’s health in the lifestyle. Joined by Zack, Josie, and Brittany, this conversation tackles the realities many women face but rarely hear clearly explained, especially in non-monogamous spaces.We start by unpacking how women are often forced to crowdsource health advice from friends instead of providers, and why women’s health research has historically been overlooked. From there, Callie shares her professional experience alongside real-world frustrations many lifestyle women encounter with doctors who don’t ask the right questions—or don’t know what to test for.The episode covers prevention, testing frequency, and what actually spreads (spoiler: it’s not toilet seats). We dig into HSV, BV, vaginal pH changes, biological incompatibility, boric acid, probiotics, wipes, supplements, and how condoms, flavored lubes, hormones, IUDs, and HRT can all impact vaginal health. Callie also explains why standard NAAT tests can be limited, why specificity with your provider matters, and what to do if you think you’ve been exposed.We also explore the financial and logistical hurdles of testing, insurance limitations, responsibility to partners, and navigating the lifestyle while trying to conceive or managing conditions like Hashimoto’s. Throughout the conversation, one message stays clear: listen to your body, advocate for yourself, and find a provider you trust—even if it takes time.This episode is educational, candid, and empowering—because taking care of yourself is part of taking care of the people you play with.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Women often get health advice from other women(00:03:48) Specific study of women’s health has been ignored for a long time(00:05:19) Callie’s professional experience and our experiences of other professionals(00:07:12) Best methods of prevention and frequency of testing(00:08:42) HSV(00:10:06) Toilet seats may be dirty…but not responsible for STD’s(00:10:57) Annual exams and pap smears(00:14:52) Your pH and vaginal health can be impacted(00:16:01) Boric acid, cleaning and probiotics(00:17:12) pH wipes and biological incompatibility(00:17:55) Uqora and other supplements(00:21:28) This is not medical advice(00:23:05) Communicating effectively with your provider(00:27:30) What is Bacterial Vaginosis (BV) and how is it spread?(00:31:58) Condoms and flavored lubes(00:34:56) What to test for and frequency(00:38:43) NAAT tests are very basic tests and and are not specific(00:40:41) Be specific with your provider(00:42:42) Best course of action if you’ve been exposed(00:44:00) Some tests are expensive and insurance won’t cover them(00:45:34) Overcoming hurdles to testing(00:47:50) Being responsible in keeping others safe(00:49:21) Fluctuation in women’s bodies, hormones and the IUD(00:51:56) Trying to get pregnant and the lifestyle(00:53:12) Hashimoto’s and birth control(00:58:56) HRT(01:01:20) Listen to your body and find a doctor who you trust  We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

In this candid — and hilariously honest — conversation, all four hosts tackle a topic that rarely gets talked about openly: uncircumcised penises. Brad opens up about growing up uncut in a world where it wasn’t common, including the insecurity, teasing, and the unforgettable childhood nickname “Snuffleupagus.” We explore real-world differences between circumcised and uncircumcised penises — sensitivity, oral sex, comfort in underwear, hygiene myths, and the realities of sex and play.Brad shares the story of the moment he thought he “broke” his penis as a teenager (spoiler: he didn’t — but his foreskin was never the same). Josie and Brittany reflect on what it was like the first time they experienced Brad’s body, and we unpack the stigma some couples still have about playing with uncut men — where it comes from, and how it affects confidence and connection.With lots of laughs, vulnerability, and plenty of good-natured teasing, we also talk about whether — and how — someone might disclose being uncut to new play partners… including a few fun and sexy ways to say it. This episode is equal parts educational, compassionate, and delightfully irreverent — and definitely one you won’t forget.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) I was different(00:04:16) Kids are cruel(00:05:44) What women should know(00:07:46) The tip is really sensitive when the skin is pulled back(00:08:48) I thought I broke my penis(00:10:49) Blowing one for the first time(00:13:53) The foreskin and using lube(00:15:13) New partners(00:19:15) Hygiene(00:20:46) Most women are receptive(00:21:59) I view it as a positive(00:23:35) Why some have ‘no uncut’ in their profiles(00:25:22) Ignorance(00:26:17) Things can get funky(00:27:50) Zack Stats(00:29:28) To circumcise or not to circumcise(00:34:17) Brad is in good company(00:35:48) Pulling it back(00:38:45) Suck it!(00:40:24) Sharing information ahead of playing(00:42:41) Not many women are forward(00:44:59) They come in all different shapes and sizes We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

In this episode, Zack and Josie sit down with Roger and Jessica, a lifestyle couple whose journey has taken an unexpected turn — into an exclusive, emotionally connected relationship with another couple. After two years in the lifestyle, what began as group dates evolved into alternating date nights, overnight visits, out-of-state trips, and eventually a shared commitment they now describe as having a “boyfriend” and “girlfriend.”Roger and Jessica share how they’ve navigated parenting schedules, deepening emotional bonds, New Relationship Energy, and the intentional work they’ve done in counseling to build the tools needed for success. Even as their connection with their partner couple grows, they remain grounded in their marriage as their primary commitment — while also acknowledging that they genuinely love their boyfriend and girlfriend.We also explore how they define this relationship: Is it poly? Is it still “just” the lifestyle? Or is it something in-between? Roger and Jessica talk openly about the labels that fit — and the ones that don’t — as they shape a relationship model that feels authentic to them.With their own history of a four-way relationship that ended in divorce, Zack and Josie ask the tough questions: Is this beautiful connection also dangerous territory? What boundaries, agreements, and self-awareness does it take to make a relationship like this work? Join us as we unpack the practical, emotional, and relational realities of choosing exclusivity inside the lifestyle.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) It all started with a sexy dream(00:02:27) Lifestyle adjacent(00:03:15) Conversation and open communication(00:03:41) We had no idea what we were doing(00:05:42) We had a few FWB’s for about a year(00:07:44) We got into an exclusive relationship(00:10:19) Isn’t being exclusive dangerous territory?(00:14:20) Our deliberate approach(00:15:19) The love we feel for different people is different than the love we feel for each other(00:18:39) Communication, connection and boundaries(00:20:18) Play parameters(00:22:52) We are able to disconnect from daily life with our play partners(00:25:33) An open marriage…not poly(00:27:59) It isn’t always easy(00:29:25) We share the big things with each other, but not every detail(00:31:27) Insecurities and compersion(00:33:50) We experience things differently because it’s a different dynamic(00:34:35) Loving vs being in love(00:37:05) Staying focused on our mutual goals(00:39:13) Vulnerability creates closeness and excitement(00:40:52) An exclusive relationship solves some of the challenges of the lifestyle(00:42:47) Navigating lifestyle events in an exclusive relationship(00:44:58) One-on-one dates(00:45:36) Protecting our couple time and our family time(00:47:17) One-on-one overnights and travel with play partners(00:48:39) The more we do it the more comfortable it becomes(00:50:36) Overnights were initially terrifying(00:52:47) The kids are young and are unaware(00:58:35) Boyfriend / girlfriend titles We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

As we get older, our bodies, our priorities, and even the way we experience the lifestyle begin to shift. In this episode, all four hosts are back at the table to talk honestly about aging, self-image, and how time changes our perspective on play, connection, and identity.Brad and Josie — both in their 50s — share what it feels like to realize they’re past the halfway point in life, while Brittany reflects on approaching that milestone, and Zack talks about only recently turning 40. Together, we ask: Is 50 really a turning point? When do you start to feel your mortality… or your freedom? And is the lifestyle a young person’s game, or does age bring its own kind of power?We explore body confidence, the “I don’t give a f***” stage of life, the pressure some of us feel to “live bigger now” while we still can, and whether urgency, opportunity, and time shape our choices. We also talk about the strengths that come with age — experience, perspective, emotional maturity, and success — and how those benefits can sometimes feel at odds with the expectations of the lifestyle.Of course, we keep it real with plenty of humor too… including joking about when we finally get to “give up,” skip the gym, eat whatever we want, and go off the rails. 😉We wrap with a reminder that pleasure, connection, and adventure don’t expire — and that the lifestyle can be meaningful, fun, and fulfilling at any age.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Insecurities about age(00:05:09) Perception of age is changing(00:09:25) The lifestyle is a young person’s game(00:10:35) You’re never too old to have sex(00:11:38) Times have changed and society is shifting(00:15:33) Age bursts(00:20:39) At what age will we no longer be attractive to younger people(00:23:16) Not disclosing your age(00:25:40) Carpe diem(00:29:16) Aging can feel limiting(00:31:58) Aging is also a blessing(00:33:45) It’s a 50’s thing(00:35:10) I don’t want the clock to run out(00:37:17) I thought the lifestyle is a short term project(00:39:54) Times have changed and so has the lifestyle(00:43:48) Stages and cycles of the lifestyle(00:45:24) Age plays into sexual liberation(00:48:38) Our perspectives changed in less than an hour(00:51:13) My journey isn’t about age although aging is part of the journey(00:52:34) The age when you stop giving a fuck(00:55:24) Not giving a fuck We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠RESOURCESThe Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson

To celebrate our first full year of Two Plus Two, we’re pulling back the curtain and sharing some of our favorite private conversations, outrageous stories, and unforgettable play moments. In this milestone episode, Zack and Josie revisit a fun, sexy, weird, and wonderfully awkward party encounter — and yes, they spill all the dirty details.Your Two Plus Two crew also has some fun shaking up the opener, including outtakes from Brad’s dramatic “sexy vampires” intro. We chat about a single vanilla guy who proudly declared himself a slut — and somehow ended up sharing his opinions on vaginas, STDs, and his vast collection of experiences. Zack and Josie also recount a hot play session with a pair of Two Plus Two listeners, and we open up about some of our own intimate moments with our partners along the way.From joking about handing out goodie bags at our orgies, to the guys teasing us about finishing their sentences, the conversation veers between playful, personal, and downright hilarious. Brad and Brittany share a wild lifestyle weekend story where Brittany’s insatiable sex drive turned Brad into a human Sybian — even after he tucked her into bed… more than once.We also laugh about how vanillas see swingers in public (and what happens when we let them in on the secret), and we dive into a conversation about Zack’s first wife being Mormon — which leads us into the curious world of “soaking” and “docking.”It’s raw, real, sexy, nostalgic, and the perfect way to celebrate one amazing year of stories, laughter, connection, and community.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) An intro mash up(00:01:02) The play by play of an interesting play experience(00:11:39) Outtakes and fun banter (00:12:39) Shweddy Balls and Sexy Vampires(00:14:10) Stinky vaginas and drippy penises(00:17:04) Mismatched experiences and revelations(00:19:39) A fun play experience with two of our listeners(00:25:17) I found a new button! (00:28:10) Fun marital banter(00:29:09) Orgy swag and vampire tattoos(00:29:49) Marital communication and ‘loss of words’(00:31:47) Intro change-up outtakes(00:34:20) Sugar lips…stroke my ego…stay humble(00:37:53) Body shaming,  judgment, confidence and insecurity(00:40:50) Dressing for your bodytype(00:42:52) Podcast ‘celebrities’(00:46:27) FOMO and dirty martinis(00:48:06) She was like a little kid who wouldn’t stay in bed(00:50:26) She shredded a guitar on her clit(00:52:19) I had my dick flicked(00:55:01) Phone a friend(00:55:25) Those people are so friendly!(00:59:37) Soaking and docking(01:03:29) Ex bashing(01:06:34) We evolve and get better  (01:09:01) Zack’s microphone and Josie’s music box(01:10:41) Josie’s karaoke machine(01:11:25) A sneaky lube run (01:13:02) A Mexican Special(01:14:12) Going down with Two Plus Two with Elevated Fun(01:16:10) Josie’s elevator impression We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sit down to tackle a question nearly every lifestyle couple has wrestled with: how many dates does it really take to get to a “yes”?They talk through what it’s like meeting a couple for the first time—those moments when the chemistry is instant and the energy exchange makes the decision easy, and the more complicated scenarios where one partner is a clear “yes” while the other sits in a frustrating gray area of “neutral.” The hosts unpack what “neutral” really means, how to shift out of it with intention, and how to decide whether to move forward—or confidently say no.The conversation dives deep into the risks of playing when one partner is still neutral. What happens if the experience doesn’t go well? Could it lead to regret, resentment, or hesitation in future situations? They explore how neutral energy can impact not just the couple, but everyone involved in a play dynamic, and why “neutral” often isn’t neutral at all—it’s a need for more information, clarity, or context.They also challenge the idea that more dates always lead to better outcomes, discussing how too much time or too many vanilla-setting meetups can actually shift desire toward a “no.” The hosts share their frustrations with couples who need multiple dates before making a decision and contrast that with how lifestyle vacations—like the Bliss Cruise—can completely change expectations, timelines, and energy.If you’ve ever struggled with mismatched interest levels, decision fatigue, or figuring out when to lean in versus walk away, this episode offers honest insight, thoughtful reflection, and plenty of “we’ve been there” moments.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Too much ‘information’(00:04:19) Making decisions and finding common ground(00:10:17) Saying ‘yes’ when one partner is neutral(00:11:21) Sometimes one partner takes the lead(00:15:52) Gauging and communicating interest can be challenging(00:20:46) We are working on being more decisive and communicative(00:23:59) Determining the time and effort to invest in a couple(00:30:40) Relationships that stay vanilla too long can become awkward(00:32:30) Changing the context of a second meeting can be helpful(00:33:22) Situations where one partner is less interested than the other(00:36:00) Communicating during a session if one partner is not having fun(00:38:22) Lifestyle travel may change expectations(00:40:47) LS travel environments can also act as accelerant(00:44:13) European lifestyle clubs may inhibit verbal connection(00:48:44) Where are we at with this couple….really?(00:53:45) When the Two Plus Two Crew met for the first time(00:55:46) Shifting out of neutralWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:mailto: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back and gearing up for one of the biggest lifestyle trips of the year: the upcoming Bliss Cruise on Radiance of the Seas this February. From liberation and sexploration to planning, packing, and prepping, this episode dives into everything we’re excited about (and a few things we’re bracing for).We talk about the tighter February timeline, Zack’s ongoing love–hate relationship with Bliss, and what made our second cruise feel completely different from our first. We’re leveling up this year—starting with a pre-cruise stop at Trapeze and a plan to wander elevators, mics in hand, to capture spontaneous conversations with fellow cruisers.We share why our Bliss experience keeps getting better, how the Bliss app has become a total game-changer, and why fitting everything into one trip might be our biggest challenge yet. We also look ahead to Bliss’ 10th anniversary in 2026, review the theme nights for February, and remind everyone (again!) to take photos—because cover stories need photographic proof.If you’re heading on a Bliss Cruise soon—or just curious what these trips are really like—this episode offers excitement, insight, and a few laughs along the way.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Liberation, sexploration and letting go(00:04:05) A more condensed timeline in February(00:04:33) Zack’s love hate relationship(00:06:20) What was different from about our second Bliss vs our first(00:07:20) We plan to hang out in elevators and record conversations with people(00:08:19) Our experience gets better every time(00:10:45) This year we’re going to Trapeze before the cruise(00:15:18) The Bliss app is a game changer!(00:18:04) Fitting it all in may be challenging(00:19:52) Bliss’ 10th Anniversary November 2026(00:20:25) Theme Nights for Radiance Feb 2026(00:24:52) Remember to take photos!(00:25:35) Cover stories and photographic proof(00:31:35) What we’re looking forward to most(00:35:53) Taking back control and focusing on each other and our experience(00:38:16) Being inward focused creates energy that others are drawn to(00:40:59) We want to experience new things(00:43:54) STI testing and Mycoplasma genitalium(00:45:47) Other good cruise preparation tips(00:47:01) Re-entry is challengingClinical Immunity 10 Day IntensiveWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:mailto: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back together for a candid and relatable conversation about something nearly every lifestyle couple experiences: the natural ebb and flow of connection, opportunity, and energy in the lifestyle. Some seasons feel packed with parties, meetups, new couples, and constant social obligations. Other times, it seems no one is available, nothing’s happening, and you’re left wondering if the spark moved on without you. And if you’ve ever found yourself comparing your quiet moments to your friends’ busy ones, you’re definitely not alone.They explore how their own journeys have evolved, and how personal circumstances can directly shape your lifestyle experiences. Zack and Josie share how they’re on a journey to rediscover their vibe, while Brad and Brittany talk about meeting new couples through mutual friends and finding fresh chemistry in unexpected places.This episode is an invitation to reflect, laugh, relate, and maybe even rethink your own lifestyle rhythm. Whether you’re in a hot streak, a lull, or somewhere in between, you’ll find pieces of your journey in this conversation—and maybe a little inspiration for what comes next.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) What qualifies as a lull(00:05:20) Questioning ourselves when we don’t connect with anyone(00:09:00) Consciously making the choice to relax and relieve the pressure(00:14:11) Zack and Josie are reevaluating the lifestyle(00:16:54) Brittany just wants to let go while Brad wants more sexual experiences(00:19:44) The definition of the lull is the repeat pattern of situations that fall flat (00:21:25) Choosing the situations where you have the most ‘success’ and avoiding others(00:23:56) Reflecting on what’s happened and what’s changed since our last ‘roll’(00:26:32) Friends with benefits and familiarity(00:31:04) The aha moment….balancing familiarity with newness(00:32:43) Preferences evolve just like everything else in the lifestyle(00:34:22) Comparing is human nature(00:37:53) Comparing your real life to everyone else’s highlight reels(00:40:16) Your life also impacts the lifestyle(00:44:16) Is there a wrong way to ‘do’ the lifestyle(00:46:09) What’s it all for and what’s next?(00:47:54) We hit our ceiling but have enjoyed meeting friends of friends(00:50:56) There are only two things we want in this lifestyle(00:51:46) Pressure or lack of pressure during a roll vs a lull(00:55:18) Balancing familiarity and newness(00:56:35) Parting adviceWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:mailto: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

In this episode, hosts Zack, Josie, and Brad sit down with Ferdinand the bull, to explore the real, often-unspoken complexities of being a single male navigating ENM spaces. Ferdinand shares how he first entered the lifestyle at the encouragement of his then-wife, who never chose to participate herself. Now eight years, a divorce, and countless connections later, he finds himself at a crossroads: dating in the vanilla world while weighing whether he can—or should—remain in the lifestyle community he’s grown so deeply attached to.The hosts dig into the nuanced decisions single men face, including when to disclose lifestyle involvement to vanilla partners, and the unique blend of freedom, connection, and emotional intelligence that strong bulls cultivate. Ferdinand opens up about both the highs and the lows: the excitement of partnered experiences, the intimacy he builds with couples, and the loneliness being a bull can create.Together, they unpack the dynamics between bulls and couples, the financial realities of being a single male in lifestyle spaces, and the stereotypes that make forming genuine connections harder than most people realize. Ferdinand also offers grounded, experience-based advice for single men curious about entering the lifestyle—highlighting why assertiveness paired with respect is essential, and why aggression never works.This episode offers an honest look at what single men gain from the lifestyle that traditional dating can’t provide, and what it truly costs, emotionally and financially, to walk this path.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Good luck Chuck(00:02:00) How I found the lifestyle(00:04:46) Friends with benefits(00:06:09) Being a bull in the lifestyle can be lonely(00:07:45) Evolving in the lifestyle over the last 8 years(00:08:50) Navigating the LS can be difficult and rejection is common(00:09:36) I shared my sexual experiences with my wife(00:10:17) Dating vanillas while you’re in the lifestyle(00:13:03) Benefits and drawbacks of being a bull(00:14:24) Bringing a new partner into the lifestyle(00:16:25) Favorite lifestyle events or activities(00:19:01) Advice for single males entering the lifestyle(00:22:33) The bull / couple dynamics(00:24:41) Lifestyle scenarios(00:29:39) Assumptions people make about bulls(00:33:07) What singles get out of the lifestyle(00:34:18) Addressing sexual orientation(00:36:05) I’m a good first experience for couples(00:37:02) Catching feelings(00:38:10) Being a bull is expensive(00:39:01) How they begin and how I conduct myself in play sessions(00:40:01) Communication and emotional intelligence(00:43:59) A good learning experienceWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

In this week’s episode, hosts Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into one of the most universally frustrating parts of the lifestyle: communication… or the lack of it. From last-minute confirmations that never come to couples who keep others dangling “just in case,” the crew unpacks the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways poor communication can waste time, strain friendships, and complicate connections.They explore why it feels so disrespectful when couples make plans but go silent when it’s time to confirm, and how annoying it is when someone breaks a commitment and then disappears—only to ask you to suggest a new time and never respond. The hosts also share their collective experience with a notoriously flaky couple whose repeated excuses have become a running theme in their local community.The conversation moves into whether people owe each other explanations when interest fades, or whether being honest only invites unnecessary drama. They also examine the sting of being ghosted by close friends, and the gray area where “ghosting” isn’t so clear—especially in a dynamic with multiple people, mismatched levels of interest, or partners who aren’t on the same page.Ultimately, the group acknowledges what everyone secretly knows: the lifestyle is awkward, interest is complicated, and communication between couples is hard. But understanding how these behaviors affect others—and recognizing the subjectivity of what counts as ghosting—can make navigating it all just a little easier.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) The sizzle fizzle(00:02:23) The times when we’ve flaked or ghosted(00:04:02) Communication is great….then crickets!(00:05:55) Ranting about coordinating with people who are traveling(00:14:00) Speculating on why people may flake or ghost(00:16:34) Letting people know you’re not interested so they don’t wonder(00:17:42) A local couple with a reputation for expressing interest and not following through(00:22:24) The local lifestyle scene(00:26:38) Another rant about a gh  osting scenario(00:29:12) Being honest about your true interest(00:31:00) Texting etiquette(00:34:26) When too much time passes between responses(00:38:00) Challenges in identifying and connecting with couples online(00:40:25) How honest should you be when breaking plans?(00:43:18) When friends ghost you(00:48:28) Ghosting is subjective and may not always be a bad thing(00:51:58) Be kind, honest, direct, respectful and don’t string people alongWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

This week, Zack, Josie, and Brad sit down with Callie — a Physician Assistant who works in the ER and has seen it all — to talk about one of the most important topics in the swinger lifestyle: sexual health.Callie breaks down what everyone in the lifestyle should know about STI prevention, testing, and risk management. She explains how your risk isn’t just about your behavior, but also the behavior of your partners — and why trust, responsibility, and regular testing are essential for keeping everyone safe.From women’s vaginal health and condom sensitivity to UTI prevention and the realities of unprotected oral sex, the conversation covers the practical side of pleasure. Callie also sheds light on HPV, how the vaccine has evolved, and how to approach testing — whether you test with your partner or alternate schedules.Throughout the episode, the Crew explores how understanding your own risk tolerance, staying informed, and choosing responsible play partners can make all the difference. Because in the lifestyle, good sexual health isn’t just about protection — it’s about connection, communication, and confidence.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Callie is a PA and has 10 years of ER experience(00:02:51) Fantasies - the gateway drug(00:04:00) Condom use is a personal choice but there are risks(00:06:49) This information is only an opinion and is not medical advice(00:07:30) Anal tissue is more easily broken down so risk of STI is higher with anal sex(00:08:29) Condoms and vaginal health(00:10:00) More facts about vaginas(00:11:11) Post menopausal vaginal decline, treatment and UTI prevention(00:13:40) Condom use can be frustrating for men(00:15:11) Oral sex and STI risks(00:16:35) Deep dive on HPV(00:19:39) The risks associated with oral vs vaginal sex are less severe(00:20:26) Difference between STI ‘ and STD’s(00:21:06) STI testing frequency and most common STI’s(00:23:05) Throat and anal swabs by request only(00:23:54) Most STI’s are asymptomatic so you have to test regularly(00:25:11) STI testing funnies(00:27:42) Testing frequency and alternating testing with your partner(00:30:00) The partners you choose may influence testing frequency(00:30:43) Sharing or asking for most recent test results(00:34:50) You should be testing for these STI’s(00:37:37) PREP(00:39:30) Doxy PEP(00:41:35) Prevention - condoms, regular testing, partners and substances(00:43:00) Drugs, alcohol and high risk activities(00:45:00) Gauging risk has a lot to do with the people and your intuition(00:46:48) Trimix(00:48:00) Stranger things…ER edition(00:50:46) Preventative vaccines and screenings Callie recommends(00:51:32) STI treatment app from CDC very helpful(00:52:02) USPSTF - United States Preventative Services Task ForceWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠RESOURCESSTI Treatment App from CDCUSPSTFHealth care considerations for sex workersChlamydia and gonorrhea (Basics)Genital herpes (Basics)Sexually transmitted infections (Basics)Sexually transmitted infection screening recommendations by sex assigned at birth and populationThe five Ps: Partners, prevention of pregnancy, protection from STIs, practices, and past history of STIsWhy men who have sex with men have an increased risk of STIs

This week, the Two Plus Two Crew tackles a playful term with some serious depth — premature evacuation. No, not that kind — we’re talking about those moments when play ends earlier than planned and all the emotions that can come with it.Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany open up about the messy, human side of swinging — from people-pleasing and communication breakdowns to triggers and shame. Josie shares a few personal experiences that highlight how past trauma can resurface in unexpected ways, and the group talks candidly about how to give ourselves and our partners grace when those moments happen.They dig into the importance of being honest with ourselves, clear with our partners, and compassionate with our playmates — because no one can read our minds, no matter how in sync we think we are. The Crew also shares tips for better communication and staying connected even when things don’t go as planned.Of course, there are still plenty of laughs — at each other’s expense and their own — as they explore how the lifestyle continues to challenge, teach, and strengthen their relationships.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) What is premature evacuation?(00:02:09) A traumatic play experience(00:08:09) Nobody was doing anything wrong(00:10:24) Feeling shame for not self-advocating(00:19:24) Brad learns he has the perfect cock for anal(00:21:07) Other people aren’t aware of our triggers(00:23:26) There was no malicious intent(00:26:11) Listeners who become play partners(00:26:48) We don’t know what we don’t know(00:28:56) Evolving in the lifestyle(00:29:49) Some people will try to push your boundaries (00:34:39) Are we being instinctual or over critical?(00:37:39) Assessing potential play partners to ensure a positive experience(00:39:45) Positive or negative bias will impact your choices and decisions(00:43:44) Considering changing our approach to serve us better(00:46:37) Looking at your results and deciding whether you want to make changes(00:48:55) Comparing your own results with others you see in the lifestyle(00:50:22) Assessing our own risk tolerance(00:53:13) Making comparisons in the lifestyle(00:55:13) Getting out of your head and letting go(00:56:30) Holding one another back(01:00:16) Parting adviceWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

This week, Zack, Josie, and Brad welcome Mary — a licensed professional counselor with 13 years in the lifestyle alongside her husband. With a rare mix of professional insight and personal experience, Mary opens up about emotional awareness, connection, and the importance of taking care of yourself — and your relationship — while living the lifestyle.Mary shares her perspective on knowing when it might be time to step back and refocus on your partnership, and how the lifestyle can magnify both the challenges and the strengths within a relationship. Drawing from her trauma specialization, she discusses the four types of trauma, how they can quietly shape our lifestyle experiences, and why vulnerability and shame often show up where we least expect them.The conversation shines a light on the feelings many swingers experience but struggle to name — and offers a fresh, compassionate perspective on what it really means to grow together through honesty, self-awareness, and trust.As Mary put it best: there are many different kinds of therapy… and sometimes, the lifestyle can be one of them.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Mary has a different perspective as a trauma therapist who’s also in the lifestyle(00:02:44) Coming from a place of love or fear(00:04:21) Everyone is in the lifestyle they just don’t know it(00:05:28) Stumbling upon the lifestyle(00:07:25) Choosing to explore and grow instead of running in fear(00:10:37) My husband and I have 13 years of lifestyle experience(00:13:03) The impact trauma has on our lives and lifestyle journeys(00:15:35) Four types of trauma: betrayal, abandonment, rejection, and shame(00:17:00) Information overload and the direction society is moving in(00:21:05) Men and women think differently(00:24:11) Personality differences impact experiences, too(00:27:22) Is energy the same as attunement(00:30:30) The lifestyle will magnify any problems you have in your relationship(00:33:24) The biggest trauma trigger in the lifestyle is shame(00:35:49) Daily walks, communication and thought experiments(00:38:43) Tips to help couples better communicate(00:40:15) Self-advocacy and learning to speak up for yourself(00:41:47) How to know if you’re having ‘too much’ lifestyle(00:44:23) What to do when you feel triggered in a play session(00:48:34) Tips on taking care of yourselves and your relationship(00:49:43) When to seek counseling and how to find a good therapist(00:53:35) Nuggets of wisdom from MaryWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠ResourcesLewis Howes’ Interview with Esther PerelBrene Brown’s Ted Talk on Shame - YouTube 2012Dr. Brian Pennie’s interview with Dr. Gabor Mate, an expert on Trauma and AddictionBARS AcronymBetrayalAbandonmentRejectionShame

This week, the Two Plus Two Crew gets real about one of the lifestyle’s biggest questions — can swinging actually make your relationship stronger?Zack and Josie open up about what it was like being in the lifestyle during their previous marriages — how they got into it, where things went wrong, and what they’ve learned since. They share how, through their evolution in the lifestyle together, their marriage has grown through honesty, vulnerability, and countless deep conversations about what truly matters.Brad and Brittany bring their own experiences to the table, sharing insecurities and insights that couples everywhere can relate to. Together, the crew explores how men and women often see the lifestyle through different lenses — and how those differences can either pull you apart or bring you closer.From trust and transparency to authenticity and acceptance, they reveal how the lifestyle can strengthen your bond — if you’re willing to put in the work (and maybe bare a little more than just your bodies).Because when you can show up fully as yourself — love yourself — and be loved for it, that’s when your relationship truly comes alive.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Lifestyle 1.0 didn’t go so well(00:03:08) Josie was pressured into getting into the lifestyle(00:05:33) Zack and his wife at the time were both in agreement to try it(00:09:39) Brad’s first brush with the lifestyle(00:11:02) We found other swingers on Craigslist(00:12:41) We weren’t in supportive marriages(00:14:26) The intimacy wasn’t like it is for us now(00:15:48) I feel more drawn to Josie than I am to you(00:18:23) Keeping things from going down a wrong path(00:20:14) We feared the lifestyle for a long time(00:22:32) Lifestyle 2.0 is much better(00:25:50) We know what it feels like to catch feelings(00:27:41) Trust and open communication helps your relationship grow(00:28:27) Friends with benefits vs one and done(00:30:14) Strong couples make playing more comfortable for the girls(00:33:56) How the lifestyle benefits your relationship(00:36:04) Men’s brains and women’s brains are very different(00:40:50) Revealing all of yourself to your partner(00:42:57) Lifestyle related arguments help you dig deep(00:45:11) Your partner helps give you confidence to be yourself(00:47:17) Supporting your partner(00:49:18) Trust is small promises kept repeatedly over time(00:54:02) We’re able to work through things faster now(00:55:39) If you think you can or you think you can’t, you’re rightWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠Reddit Post worth reading

This week, the Two Plus Two Crew is back together, and things are getting deliciously crowded. Brad and Brittany are fully in their element, fresh from a steamy mountain takeover weekend with 16 lifestyle friends and plenty of spicy stories to share. Meanwhile, Zack and Josie open up about a night they didn’t see coming: their first threesome and a group play twist that left their hearts racing and pulses quickening.From Brittany’s shibari fantasy coming to life to the electric thrill of meeting new play partners and feeling that spark catch fire, this episode dives deep into the sexy, messy, and unforgettable moments that make group play so intoxicating.Consider this your invitation to the after-dark gathering where communication, connection, and curiosity collide. One taste… and you may not want to leave. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Welcome back to the studio, Brad & Brittany!(00:02:24) Group play is our jam(00:03:06) Group play challenges and nerves(00:06:31) 18 people in one house for three days(00:09:16) Conveying interest when and how(00:11:50) It was my turn to be tied up(00:15:05) Envy and communicating interest to your partner(00:18:52) Initiating group play(00:22:31) We turned into exhibitionists(00:24:19) Our first ‘threesome’ (00:27:24) It was unexpected, new and exciting(00:30:07) And now there were five(00:33:47) Getting consent during play…verbal vs visual(00:37:15) Group play in place of a four way connection(00:38:08) Communication with your partner is key(00:40:52) ‘Same’ party, different outcome…we were intentional(00:43:29) Challenges with communicating interest to your partner(00:44:39) Putting the right group of people together for play(00:48:04) Taking time to reflect on play experiences and recuperate(00:51:08) Some group play experiences get your motor running(00:52:00) Parties coming up(00:53:34) Taking care of your relationship is most important(00:54:31) Looking forward to our next group play experienceWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠