The Art Of Imperfect Adulting

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Susan Hyatt about the realities and myths of diet culture, beauty standards, and the rise of "menopause culture." Broadcasting from Indiana in the Midwest, Susan shares her journey as a life coach and author, unveiling the motivations behind her anti-diet philosophy and the process of publishing her book, "Bear." Together, Amy and Susan candidly explore the evolving influence of social media, the challenge of visibility for women, and how aging and menopause are newly commodified—and what it means to choose self-support instead of self-policing.About Susan Hyatt: Susan Hyatt is a Master Certified Life Coach, Bestselling Author, and TEDx Speaker. She’s on a mission to ignite 'Big Yes Energy' in women everywhere. From boosting your bank account to supercharging your self-confidence, from elevating your energy levels to amplifying your joy, Susan is the go-to expert for women who want more.With 18 years of coaching experience under her belt, Susan has guided thousands of women through their personal revolutions. She's a crusader against diet culture and a vocal advocate for closing gaps – in wages, confidence, and yes, even orgasms.She is also the creator of BARE - a groundbreaking process that’s inspired women all over the world to stop shrinking their bodies and start expanding their lives.Susan's impactful work has graced national TV, leading podcasts, and top magazines including O: The Oprah Magazine, Cosmopolitan, Seventeen, Woman’s World, and Call Her Daddy. Her dedication to women's empowerment and entrepreneurship also earned her a spot as a finalist for the prestigious Athena Award.When she's not hyping up her clients, leading epic retreats, or making a scene, Susan can be found weightlifting, marathon training, globetrotting, or cozying up in her hygge corner. She’s also not shy about advocating for equality at home, regularly reminding her husband about the importance of sharing the "invisible workload," so she can continue to earn big and play big.Main Topics Covered:How Susan’s anti-diet philosophy was born from personal experience and coaching hundreds of women.Navigating the publishing industry: the challenges, rejections, and creative solutions Susan found on her way to releasing "Bear."Unpacking "diet culture," "beauty culture," and "menopause culture"—what these terms mean and how they impact women.The emotional risk and motivation behind becoming a visible voice for body freedom and wellness.The backlash and online criticism women face when sharing their stories—and how to use privilege for advocacy.Aging, menopause, and influencer advice: noticing the parallels between traditional diet culture and new "menopause fixes."The importance of quality information, body intuition, and skepticism amid wellness fads and changing research.Creating sustainable health and strength in midlife, beyond competitive extremes and compliance for its own sake.Building offline and online communities for support and connection in the age of instant digital feedback.Quote from the Episode: "I'm not gonna shut up because I have big boobs and blonde hair and blue eyes. Like, that's...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kimberly Brown about navigating major career transitions, the search for authentic self-fulfillment, and the power of mindfulness and meditation in overcoming anxiety. Joining Amy from New York City, Kimberly opens up about leaving behind years of psychoanalytic training in favor of a path rooted in Buddhist-inspired meditation. Listeners will learn how Kimberly’s journey through personal anxiety and professional “wrong turns” led her to a sense of belonging, self-compassion, and a thriving vocation as a meditation teacher.Kimberly Brown is a meditation teacher and author. She leads classes and retreats that emphasize the power of compassion and kindness meditation to reconnect us to ourselves and others. She studies in both the Tibetan and Insight schools of Buddhism and is a certified mindfulness instructor. Her latest book, Happy Relationships: 25 Buddhist Practices to Transform Your Connection with Your Partner, Family, and Friends, was recently released by Rowman & Littlefield. You can learn more about Kimberly at www.meditationwithheart.comMain Topics Covered:Coping with the pressure and expectations to “get it right” in career and education choices.The impact of post-9/11 life changes and the urgent drive for deeper meaning.Why traditional psychoanalysis and diagnostic labels didn’t resonate—and how compassion shifted her approach.Transforming painful anxiety and panic attacks into motivation for personal growth.The science and practice of mindfulness and meditation, including Buddhist perspectives.How belonging and acceptance—both internally and within a community—can heal and empower.Overcoming the belief that something is “wrong” with you and embracing inherent goodness.Building a business and life around self-compassion, meditation, and helping others connect authentically.Quote from the Episode: "I began to feel that there was nothing wrong with anybody. And I don't... that doesn't mean we all have troubles. I just never felt like, well, anybody's really broken, right? We just have our stuff and we have to, you know, take care of it and understand it." — Kimberly BrownTimestamps: [00:00:04] Introduction & warm-up: New York roots, upstate escapes, and favorite flowers[00:02:34] Career change: From HR and psychoanalytic training to questioning the diagnostic process[00:09:02] 9/11 as a catalyst for dramatic life transitions[00:12:07] The essential role of a healing therapist and the inspiration to help others[00:13:31] The drive to return to school, lifelong learning, and giving oneself grace in change[00:17:27] Discomfort with diagnosing mental health, and the story of an authentic therapeutic relationship[00:21:19] Discussion of Freud, medical coding, and the industrial complex of American healthcare[00:26:56] Struggles with professional modality and the need for real human connection[00:30:49] Personal challenges: panic attacks, anxiety, and unexpected traumas[00:34:01] Discovering meditation and mindfulness through yoga and Buddhist centers[00:37:27] Building a new path—belonging, retreats, teaching, and gratitude for healing[00:41:12] The power of acceptance, belonging, and Buddhist...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Sabrina Harrison about body image, self-acceptance, and the transformative power of boudoir photography—both behind and in front of the lens. Joining from Westminster, Colorado, Sabrina shares her personal experience of gifting boudoir photos to her husband, which unexpectedly became a journey of reclaiming her own confidence and reshaping her photography business. The conversation explores how images impact self-concept, the realities of postpartum body changes, and actionable strategies to build self-love.About Sabrina Harrison: Sabrina has a degree in photography from the University of Virginia. She moved to Colorado in 2016 with her husband and 2 dogs. She is currently working as a boudoir, retreat, and branding photographer in Westminster, Colorado. Sabrina is a huge reader and personal development junkie. She loves skiing, hiking, tea, tacos, and eclairs. Sabrina is the proud mother of 3 children, 2 bio and 1 bonus. Sabrina is a seasoned expert in confidence coaching and brand strategy, dedicated to empowering individuals to embrace themselves and unlock their potential through art and capturing their true essence behind her lens.Main Topics Covered:How boudoir photography can become an act of self-love and empowerment.The emotional journey of stepping in front of the camera as a photographer, including vulnerability, trust, and letting go of control.The impact of postpartum body changes on confidence and identity, and how photography can help reframe these experiences.Specific techniques for cultivating self-acceptance, including affirmation strategies and mirror work.Challenging social beauty standards and learning to see yourself with compassion.How Sabrina’s personal photo session led her to niche her business and help other women transform their own self-image.The philosophy behind presenting images as a “kinder lens” compared to self-critique.Practical tips for anyone feeling critical or uncomfortable in front of a camera, starting with small steps and mindset shifts.Quote from the Episode: "This is literally looking at myself through a kinder lens than I do maybe in the mirror. And I really wanted to try to create that for other people." — Sabrina HarrisonTimestamps: [00:00:05] — Welcome & introductions; Sabrina shares where she calls home [00:00:30] — Warm-up questions on Valentine’s Day gifts and personal preferences [00:02:18] — Episode focus: the meaning behind boudoir photography and Sabrina’s story [00:02:49] — Sabrina’s roots in photography: family legacy and first camera memories [00:06:10] — The origin story: deciding to gift boudoir photos to her husband after childbirth [00:07:47] — Insights from Rumi: action creates clarity [00:11:00] — What is boudoir photography? Sabrina explains the spectrum of style and comfort [00:12:00] — Facing nerves and the reality of body image post-baby; not being documented in family photos [00:13:13] — Surrendering creative control; empathy for clients’ experience [00:16:06] — How the experience unexpectedly transformed Sabrina’s business [00:17:16] — Shedding mental baggage and embracing new self-love postpartum [00:19:15] — Common body image fears, dysmorphia, and how photography can heal [00:21:25] — Confronting “imperfections”...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Brittany Cano about navigating burnout, trauma, and transformation as an ICU nurse during the COVID pandemic. Based in Florida, Brittany shares her shift from hospital nursing to holistic wellness coaching. Listeners will discover insights about nervous system regulation, overcoming grief, and redefining adult identity after major life transitions.About Brittany Cano:Brittany Cano is a Holistic Nurse Coach and wellness expert with over 20 years of nursing experience and a decade of running her own holistic wellness practice. Her work was born from her personal healing journey, transforming shame, perfectionism, and self-criticism into self-compassion, embodiment, and wholeness. Drawing from her background in nursing, somatic healing, and holistic coaching, Brittany helps others reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems, and reclaim their energy and worth. She is passionate about guiding others to move beyond burnout and live in alignment with their most authentic selves.Main Topics Covered:Facing trauma and burnout as an ICU nurse in New York and Baltimore during the first wave of the COVID pandemic.Navigating cultural contrasts in pandemic response between Northeast cities and Florida.The psychological impact of working in intensive care and why teamwork and humor were survival tools.The move from traditional nursing to holistic wellness coaching—motivated by a desire to focus on prevention, longevity, and emotional well-being.Recognizing burnout through physical symptoms and exploring the deep connection between mind, body, and trauma.Using self-reflection, nervous system regulation, and somatic practices to heal and support others.Overcoming guilt and identity challenges when leaving behind a respected profession for more authentic life and work.Brittany’s approach to holistic healing: biopsychosocial-spiritual, including retreats, coaching, and innovative tools like peptide protocols.Timestamps:[00:00:07] Amy welcomes Brittany & introduces Thanksgiving leftovers conversation[00:01:46] Shifting from holiday talk to Brittany’s pandemic experience as an ICU nurse[00:02:45] Standing out moments from early COVID, patient stories, teamwork, emotional toll[00:05:03] Navigating uncertainty, hazmat suits, and contrasting pandemic cultures in Florida vs. Northeast[00:08:07] Brittany’s holistic wellness side hustle and the motivation to leave bedside nursing[00:09:43] The importance of preventative health and avoiding hospitalization[00:13:02] Early career decisions: psychology dreams, practical nursing choices, and college costs[00:15:01] Grief, personal trauma, and the healing power of holistic coaching[00:18:58] Defining “holistic”—mind, body, social, and spiritual interconnectedness in wellness[00:21:16] Brittany discovers the root of her burnout and GI symptoms, and the need for deeper healing[00:26:27] The challenge of self-awareness during burnout; learning from “rushing woman syndrome”[00:29:59] Ayahuasca experience, trauma healing, and how divine timing guided Brittany’s journey[00:33:33] How pandemic trauma reverberates for healthcare workers and all adults[00:34:28]...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Colette Fehr about marriage, divorce, and the impact of family dynamics on adult relationships. Based in Orlando, Florida, Colette candidly shares her journey from growing up in a traditional, conflict-filled New York household to navigating her own early marriage, divorce, and eventual career as a couples therapist. Listeners will gain insights into how childhood experiences unconsciously shape relationship choices, why emotional disconnection—not conflict—is a leading destroyer of marriages, and how to have the difficult conversations that lead to lasting love.About Colette Fehr:Colette Jane Fehr is a licensed psychotherapist and nationally recognized relationship expert. She’s the author of The Cost of Quiet: How to Have the Hard Conversations That Create Secure, Lasting Love, coming out February 2026 from Putnam and Penguin Random House. Colette co-hosts the hit podcast Insights from the Couch: Real Talk for Women at Midlife and Love Thy Neighbor: The Relationship Show, and her TEDx talk Secrets of a Couples Therapist was selected as a TED Editors’ Pick.Main Topics Covered:How childhood family dynamics, including loud conflict and divorce, shape unconscious patterns in adult relationships and marriageThe myth that successful relationships are free of conflict, and why learning to handle conflict constructively is essentialColette’s experience of getting married young, going through divorce, and raising children—often counter to her peer group’s expectationsThe societal and generational stigmas around divorce, especially for women, and why leaving can be the healthiest choiceThe journey from “good girl” people-pleasing and self-abandonment to finding one’s voice and boundaries in relationshipsRecognizing fawning and people-pleasing as trauma responses—and the path to unlearning them for healthier loveThe importance of seeking skilled, specialized couples therapy (including discernment counseling) and not all therapists are equally equippedColette’s book "The Cost of Quiet: How to Have the Hard Conversations That Create Secure, Lasting Love," with practical tools for women to confidently express their needsQuote from the Episode: "The number one factor that destroys relationships is emotional disconnection. Not arguing, not having differences, not even infidelity. It’s disconnection." — Colette FehrTimestamps: [00:00:06] Introduction and guest welcome; Colette shares her New Yorker roots and years in Orlando, Florida[00:00:43] What Colette loves about Orlando: eternal sunshine and multiculturalism[00:01:02] Introducing today’s topic: marriage and divorce[00:01:21] Colette’s personal history: two marriages, one divorce[00:01:45] Early marriage story—married at 24, divorced at 31, balancing motherhood and changing social circles[00:04:13] How parents’ marriage and conflict modeled relationship dynamics for Colette[00:06:51] The myth of “no conflict” in healthy relationships and the real importance of constructive communication[00:08:37] How Colette’s childhood influenced her career choice as a therapist[00:10:55] The cultural stigma of divorce in Irish Catholic New York during the 1980s[00:13:01]...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Holly Bot about the dramatic realities of incarceration, stigma, and transformation following a prison sentence. Based in Minneapolis, Minnesota, Holly shares her deeply personal story of serving eight years in prison, the personal and social challenges she faced, and the path toward self-forgiveness and growth. The conversation explores how shame, desperation, and loneliness can lead to life-altering decisions—and how humility, faith, and compassion became central to Holly’s journey beyond incarceration.Holly Bot is a speaker, author and IT professional living in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Above all she treasures her roles as wife and mother. She is the author of From Surviving to Living, a memoir of her prison experiences.Main Topics Covered:The hidden realities and emotional shock of the criminal justice process, from arrest to sentencing to prison life.Generational and cultural stigma around women, motherhood, and criminal behavior—and its ripple effects on family and identity.Mental health, burnout, and the consequences of isolation, particularly for mothers and caregivers in crisis.How shame, secrecy, and lack of support can escalate risky decisions—and what ignoring “red flags” can look like in real life.The complex, lasting stigma of being labeled a felon or sex offender, including public perception and daily-life limitations post-release.Holly’s revelations in self-identity, humility, and personal growth through faith while incarcerated.The role of compassion—for oneself and others—when reckoning with past mistakes and striving to help others avoid similar pain.Candid discussion of re-entry into society, employment challenges, and creating hope for those affected by incarceration.Quote from the Episode:“I created my most worst nightmare and then was forced to live it out. The stigma is real. I think that any prison sentence is a life sentence, even if you only served a year on the facility, because you are a felon forever.” — Holly BotTimestamps: [00:00:05] Warm-up questions and introduction; Holly’s home in Minneapolis[00:01:14] Setup of today’s dramatic conversation about incarceration[00:02:07] Holly explains the lead-up and facts about her crime and sentencing[00:06:39] Life before prison: family background, isolation, and mounting emotional stress[00:12:53] Examining the motivations, confusion, and factors leading to life-altering choices[00:18:43] The power of loneliness and unmet validation; lack of support network[00:23:42] How desire to be seen and desperate problem-solving played into criminal behavior[00:27:02] What prison was really like for women in Minnesota[00:30:41] Finding humility, faith, and inner change during incarceration[00:37:01] Stigma, public shame, and how Holly’s crimes affected her children and family[00:43:07] Lasting consequences of a felony conviction and life post-release[00:46:13] Employment, transparency, and reintegration into the community[00:48:27] Why Holly wrote her book—to give others hope earlier in the healing process[00:51:13] Compassion, self-forgiveness, and understanding others’ pain[00:52:19] Book information and a special offer for...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lindsey Tague about the realities and transformations of embracing a full-time nomadic lifestyle. Based out of New York but self-described as a true global citizen, Lindsey shares her journey from corporate burnout to launching a freelance business and ultimately untethering herself from a traditional home. Listeners will gain honest insights into the logistics, myths, emotional shifts, and practicalities of going nomadic, including how Lindsey balanced work, travel, safety concerns, and building a remote community.About Lindsey Tague :Lindsey Tague is a freelance content marketing consultant, brand storyteller, Substack creator of "A Life By Design", and a full-time digital nomad currently based in Mexico City. My passion besides latin dancing is to inspire others to break free from the matrix to discover what their life by design looks like.Main Topics Covered:Breaking free from corporate burnout and launching a location-independent freelance business.Overcoming fears, family risk narratives, and the myths around solo travel for women.The critical importance of connecting to one’s “why” when setting (and sustaining) ambitious life goals.Step-by-step logistics of transitioning from a stable home base to global nomadism: moving out, purging belongings, managing storage, and letting go of a car.Navigating finances, location choices, and the realities of working while traveling abroad—especially the time zone challenge between US and Europe.Methods for building connection and finding community on the road—Facebook expat groups, WhatsApp chats, and hostel culture.Evolving travel rhythms: shifting from rapid destination hopping to longer stays and considering where to potentially “set down roots.”The creation and philosophy behind Lindsey’s “Life by Design” substack, and her new offer to help other women build their own sustainable nomadic lifestyles.Quote from the Episode: "You cannot plan this lifestyle. Even just the transition, the leap... you can say, I’ll pick where I want to go and for how long, but the logistics and figuring things out, you don’t know what it’s going to be like until you’re there." — Lindsey TagueTimestamps: [00:00:06] Introduction & Lindsey’s nomadic definition of “home” [00:01:03] Lindsey’s strategy for sticking with big goals—connecting to “why” [00:02:14] Origin of the travel dream and decision-making process [00:05:41] Leaving corporate, working at a startup, and burnout triggers [00:08:32] Laid off, starting a freelance business, and monetizing skills [00:12:24] Pandemic timeline, moving out, and managing belongings [00:14:45] Logistics: purging, storage unit, selling furniture, and handling a car [00:19:06] Anticipated myths and fears, especially about safety and money [00:21:19] First step: solo travel to Tulum, Mexico, and lessons learned [00:23:44] Work-life balance and time zone tips for digital nomads [00:29:13] Building community while traveling—Facebook groups, WhatsApp, and hostels [00:32:22] Shifting travel rhythms and the search for belonging [00:34:25] Lindsey’s evolution: freelance business, substack, and new coaching offer [00:37:40] Rapid fire: making new places feel homey, travel hacks, and favorite books [00:41:31] Closing thoughts and where...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Mary Alice Stephens about her journey from high-functioning alcoholic housewife to sobriety and self-acceptance. Based in Marin County, California, Mary Alice Stephens shares candid reflections on growing up in a family with a deep culture of drinking, how alcohol shaped her adult social and professional life, and the pivotal moment that led to quitting for good. This conversation is packed with insights for anyone sober-curious, struggling with social anxiety, or navigating recovery—highlighting the emotional transformation and lasting inner peace Mary Alice discovered on the other side of addiction.Mary Alice Stephens is a creative nonfiction storyteller. A former television writer-producer for HGTV, Food Network, and other media outlets, Mary shares her powerful story of alcoholism, recovery, and starting life anew at 45 in her debut book, Uncorked: A Memoir of Letting Go and Starting Over, which was an Amazon #1 new release in both alcoholism recovery and midlife self-help. She earned her Master of Fine Arts in creative writing from Dominican University of California and lives in Northern California.Main Topics Covered:Family dynamics and the impact of generational drinking culture on identity.The connection between alcohol use and social anxiety, especially in adolescent and young adult years.Why high-functioning alcoholism often goes unseen and unaddressed.The emotional patterns underlying compulsive drinking and attempts to “fit in.”How motherhood, social circles, “wine o’clock” culture, and marketing influence women’s relationship with alcohol.The myth of needing alcohol for fun, relaxation, and connection.Breaking through denial: recognizing the “noise” and compulsion around drinking.Mary Alice’s turning point—her emotional “bottom” moment—and the first steps she took towards sobriety.The role of AA, supportive friendships, and the shift to genuine self-acceptance.What life after drinking really looks like: socializing, cravings, and building authentic peace.Quote from the Episode: "It was the first time that I thought quitting would bring relief." — Mary Alice StephensTimestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome and intro; Mary Alice’s Marin County roots[00:00:55] Mary Alice’s approach to planning and organization; past career as a producer[00:01:29] The fabric of family drinking—Irish Catholic traditions and first encounters with alcohol[00:03:54] Family sobriety “lore,” exposure to addiction, and role models[00:05:06] Alcohol as a social coping strategy—high school, college, TV & advertising industry culture[00:07:21] Early awareness of problem drinking; risky behavior and denial[00:08:26] Serious consequences: breaking her back while drinking abroad, denial, and hiding issues[00:09:35] The “happy drunk” vs. other archetypes, and why her habits flew under the radar[00:11:28] Drinking as self-medication—connection, anxiety reduction, grief, loneliness[00:13:24] Childhood social anxiety, disconnection, and perceptions of ease in others[00:16:37] Facing what quitting

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with D'Layne Benson about navigating burnout, self-abandonment, and the transformative power of breathwork for overwhelmed women. D'Layne shares her journey from the ski resort town of Haley, Idaho, highlighting the impact of over-functioning as a nurse, the emotional toll of family demands, and the personal reckoning brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic. This conversation is packed with actionable insight on nervous system regulation, finding joy, and creating boundaries—key lessons for anyone feeling stretched too thin.D'Layne Benson is a former nurse turned nurse coach and breathwork facilitator, devoted to helping perfectionist, people-pleasing, and overachieving women move from overwhelm to balance, joy, and self-acceptance. Based in Idaho, she draws on her own experience of burnout, family caregiving, and personal growth to support women in uncovering their patterns and building tailored strategies for healing. D'Layne offers both group breathwork classes and one-to-one coaching, specializing in trauma-informed, transformative methods for nervous system regulation.Main Topics Covered:Caring for others vs. caring for yourself: How self-abandonment develops and shows up in high-achieving womenThe realities of burnout as a nurse in rural and pandemic-era IdahoUnderstanding the freeze response and nervous system dysregulation beyond “fight or flight”Breaking patterns of people-pleasing and perfectionism, especially at midlifeThe intersection of personal upheaval (career, health, family illness) and hormonal changes (perimenopause)How breathwork can foster insight, healing, and tangible emotional releaseSteps for moving from overwhelm to joy: list-making, boundaries, and intentional transitionsThe value of finding fun, building presence, and redefining achievement beyond productivityQuote from the Episode: "I was trying to control my husband, I was trying to control my stepson, I was helicopter momming him, I was trying to control my in-laws, I was trying to control my parents. I was trying to control every aspect of life. ... While I felt the control was giving me safety, it was actually the thing that was keeping me from living a beautiful life and thriving." — D'Layne BensonTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome to The Art of Imperfect Adulting; D'Layne’s Idaho mountain home[00:01:21] Motivation and how to find the fun in tough projects[00:02:55] List-making, overwhelm, and the power of single-task focus[00:05:33] Life before the pandemic: nursing, family setup, and being “the rock”[00:09:44] Family relationships: husband’s brain injuries, stepson, and self-development[00:14:13] Everything collapsing: pandemic stress, family illness, perimenopause[00:19:34] Why nursing and “helping” became an identity; childhood patterns of achievement and abandonment[00:26:50] Freeze response explained: hidden anxiety in high-performing women[00:32:11] Journey to breathwork: when self-help shifted from helping others to herself[00:39:29] Breakthrough in breathwork: realizing control and safety patterns[00:43:11] Explaining transformative breathwork vs. “just taking a deep breath”[00:47:34] What life looks like now: presence, intention, and

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Joanna Lilley about supporting young adults who are struggling in college and navigating transitional moments in early adulthood. Joanna, based in Traverse City, Michigan, shares her experience as a therapeutic consultant working with students who step away from college, as well as the challenges faced by their parents. Joanna offers actionable insights for parents navigating this stage, highlights the developmental shifts in emerging adulthood, and discusses her journey from higher education to entrepreneurship.About Joanna Lilley: Since 2016, Lilley Consulting has been helping young adults (18+) find mental health, substance use, and wellness resources.  Joanna dedicates herself to working solely with emerging adults who unravel in college or aren’t thriving in adulthood. She also hosts the “Success is Subjective” podcast, which can be found on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeartRadio.Main Topics Covered:The realities and pressures facing college students—including mental health, substance use, and identity formation.Why stepping away from college isn't a failure, and how families can reframe this experience for growth.The impact of technology and social media on young adult connection, comparison, and wellbeing.How parents can support their young adults with boundaries, communication, and community—especially when navigating house rules and independence.Joanna’s story: The pivotal moment when a student asked for direct help and how it led her to launch her consulting practice.Why stigma, secrecy, and “highlight reel” culture make it difficult for families to seek support when young adults struggle.The business side of helping families: Joanna’s role as a therapeutic consultant, speaking to both parents and young adults as distinct clients.The importance of community for parents of young adults—resources, vulnerability, and how to find safe spaces.Quote from the Episode: “It really begins with a reflection. Last year, how did things go? What are the areas that I want to work on? ... It starts with the reflection first and foremost to get that baseline and then identify kind of the visioning for change for the future.”— Joanna LilleyTimestamps: [00:00:06] Amy greets Joanna Lilley, who calls Traverse City, Michigan home. [00:01:19] Joanna discusses her approach to fresh starts rooted in self-reflection. [00:02:39] Joanna explains her former role as a college success coach and involvement in a suspension deferral program for students with substance issues. [00:04:37] Joanna describes her non-linear path into higher ed and passion for supporting young adults. [00:09:58] Joanna defines her current practice: helping “stepping away” college students—and why college isn’t for everyone. [00:12:21] The perfect storm facing today’s young adults: autonomy, connection, and the impact of tech and social media. [00:19:35] Tips for parents: shifting to a “parenting young adults” mindset, setting collaborative house rules. [00:23:50] The vulnerability and isolation of parents whose children struggle; finding supportive communities. [00:25:29] Joanna’s “lightning bolt” moment—helping a student who had been suspended and how institutional limitations inspired her business model. [00:31:01] Joanna navigates the intersection of service and entrepreneurship, helping parents and young adults. [00:39:20] Joanna’s official business description, what therapeutic consulting looks like, and how to get in touch. [00:41:26] Fun Questions: Joanna shares her passion for metalsmithing and a joyful home improvement. [00:44:29] Closing thanks and episode wrap-up.Connect with the guest: https://lilleyconsulting.com/ ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Penny Rose about the wild adventure of downsizing, embracing nomadic living, and designing a work-life balance fueled by intention and financial freedom. Penny shares her journey from a packed 1,640 square foot “sticks-and-bricks” house to 250 square feet on wheels, revealing the joys, logistical hurdles, and inner mindset shifts that paved the way for her and her husband’s life on the road.About the Guest:Penny is a CPA who helps multi-six-figure creative business owners gain financial confidence, make fearless decisions, and unlock the freedom they crave. Her journey began not in a business school, but in a high-stakes, freedom-limiting career as a forensic accountant at the FBI. While chained to a traditional office, she knew that to achieve true location and time freedom, she had to build a bulletproof financial system for her own remote business. She successfully created that system, and it became her escape plan.Main Topics Covered:Why Penny and her husband downsized and chose the RV lifestyle—including insurance headaches and financial motivations.The planning, mindset, and logistical challenges of letting go of stuff, brick-and-mortar commitments, and local ties.Emotional resilience in the face of change and feedback from friends/community.The nuts and bolts of RV living: creating new traditions, maintaining community remotely, and the realities of “traveling too fast.”Domiciling in Florida and the tax/legal intricacies for nomads and creators.How Penny’s business “Penny in Your Pocket” supports influencers and travel creators with sound financial strategy—and her new micro podcast and online course for beginners.Quote from the Episode:“We obviously weren't using our space for very much besides storing stuff, stuff that we couldn't even get to... Once I met someone, I'm not only maintaining contact, I'm growing the community as I meet more people.” — Penny RoseTimestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome & where Penny calls home (Orlando, FL—and half the year on the road)[00:01:11] New Year’s traditions and Jeep culture[00:02:43] First RV night: breaking free at the end of 2019[00:03:26] Dreaming, planning, and facing “sticks and bricks” hassles[00:07:52] Financial and emotional motivation for hitting the road[00:09:00] How much stuff? Merging homes and the problem of “too much”[00:10:59] Cutting other ties—work, clubs, church, and setting a departure deadline[00:13:23] Early retirement timing and the role of benefits[00:17:12] Downsizing method and COVID-era logistics; avoiding the storage unit trap[00:20:13] Emotional vs. logistical challenge of letting go[00:22:59] Community response: safety concerns, admiration, and surprise[00:26:41] RV travel rhythm: “living” vs. “touristing,” building connection across states[00:31:13] Domiciling 101: Florida, Texas, South Dakota, and tax homes[00:34:43] Maintaining community online and in-person as a nomad[00:37:56] Boundaries while working and traveling; not “traveling too fast”[00:41:01] RV park favorites and growing new traditions[00:43:58] How Penny’s work supports creators staying on the road[00:46:53] Penny’s new micro podcast and online course for influencer finances[00:51:31] Favorite RV kitchen gadget—a countertop dishwasher![00:53:27] Podcast recommendation: Ramit Sethi’s Money for Couples[00:54:14] What makes RV life “homey”: a cherished quilt from Penny’s grandmotherConnect with the Guest:Website: https://pennyinyourpocketcpa.com/Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Laura Ericson about the bold journey of leaving a secure career to build an adventurous life and business around world travel. From her base in Eau Claire, Wisconsin (when she's actually home!), Laura details her transformation from director at a technical college to the founder of a thriving group travel company, designing immersive cultural experiences for curious adults. Listeners will walk away inspired by Laura’s candid perspective on divorce, navigating uncertainty, and the practicalities (and emotion) of starting over to pursue a more aligned and exciting life.About Laura Ericson:Laura Ericson is the founder of Laura Ericson Group Trips, a boutique travel company specializing in transformational experiences to off-the-beaten-path destinations like Morocco, India, Kenya, and Cuba. After spending 14 years in higher education leadership, she made the leap to entrepreneurship at 34, turning her post-divorce wanderlust into a business that has taken over 230 travelers to 9 countries. Laura believes in "Type 2 Fun"—those experiences that might suck in the moment but become your best stories later—and is passionate about responsible travel that gives back to local communities. She lives in Wisconsin (yes, really) and has a concerning habit of getting travel tattoos in foreign countries despite swearing she won't after each one.Main Topics Covered:Rethinking New Year’s resolutions: why personal growth isn’t tied to the calendar.The realities and misconceptions of technical colleges vs. four-year universities—and the impact on careers and debt.How divorce, solo travel, and the pandemic sparked Laura’s business transformation.Recognizing when you’re “playing it safe” in life—and how to awaken your adventurous spirit.The emotional process of leaving a secure job for entrepreneurial uncertainty.Overcoming fear: taking real steps (not just dreaming) toward career change.Building community and belonging for solo travelers craving authentic, meaningful adventure.Tangible travel hacks for life on the road—from luggage scales to navigating lost bags.Quote from the Episode: “A lot of people who get divorced, like, see it as the end of their life. I see it as the end of your life as you know it and the opportunity to start over.” — Laura EricsonTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & Laura’s rare appearance at home in Eau Claire, WI[00:00:35] New Year’s resolutions and perpetual goal-setting[00:02:29] Laura’s 14-year career in higher education and the decision to leave[00:03:42] The gap between studying and career path; value of technical college[00:13:21] Major life change: divorce, personal transition, and the pandemic’s impact[00:18:38] Rediscovering adventure through solo travel—and launching a group travel business[00:33:08] The logistics and fear of quitting a stable job[00:35:03] The power of the “decision moment” in career change[00:41:20] Starting a business with nothing but a passion for travel[00:46:36] What Laura Ericson Group Trips is—and who it serves[00:49:29] Favorite travel hacks, books, podcasts, and travel mishapsJoin the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Click here and pitch yourself. Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lesley Jones about the journey of ditching alcohol and embracing sobriety without waiting for a traditional "rock bottom." Lesley offers candid insights on redefining what it means to have a problem with drinking, the invisible emotional battles behind high-functioning adulthood, and how choosing sobriety has transformed her sense of peace and purpose. The episode provides real strategies for navigating social situations as a non-drinker and explores the power of community support, including Lesley's own work building connections through storytelling.About Lesley Jones: Lesley Jones lives in Dayton, Ohio where she is a wife, mother or 3, writer and entrepreneur. She filled up with cocktails for a very long time, and now she fills up with connection. Lesley is the founder of Traveling Pendants, a jewelry-plus-tech company built on the belief that no one should feel alone in their journey. What began as a simple pendant passed among family members during times of illness has grown into a patent-pending digital storytelling platform where every pendant holds real stories of strength, resilience, and connection. Each time a pendant is worn and shared, its story log grows—creating a living chain of human connection.Main Topics Covered:Redefining "rock bottom" and why waiting for loss is a misconception in recovery.The role of New Year's resolutions and personal motivation in lasting change.Recognizing the emotional and mental weight of addiction—even in high-functioning lives.Sober curiosity, societal judgments, and shifting cultural norms around drinking.Strategies for handling anxiety and stress without substances.Navigating social situations and relationships while staying alcohol-free.The importance of support communities, connection, and sharing your story.Lesley’s entrepreneurial journey: creating Traveling Pendants to foster strength and connection.Quote from the Episode: "I always say quit before you lose because I hate losing. So I did the quitting before I did the losing." — Lesley JonesTimestamps: [00:00:04] Welcome & Lesley’s Ohio roots [00:00:38] New Year's resolutions and how they sparked Lesley's sobriety journey [00:01:53] Discussing the January cultural “reset” and indulgence cycles [00:03:09] Early relationship with alcohol, experimenting with sobriety, and family context [00:05:19] Breaking down the “rock bottom” myth and personal definitions of loss [00:07:05] Misconceptions that keep people stuck and the invisible cost of shame [00:08:38] Making the choice before crisis—internal motivation versus societal expectation [00:10:27] The danger of comparing drinking habits, self-negotiation, and feeling out of control [00:13:01] The mental energy devoted to planning and thinking about drinking [00:14:01] Parallels between food noise, invisible struggles, and substance habits [00:16:07] Why early change leads to easier recovery (“stage zero” analogy) [00:17:46] Why some people with extensive losses may still struggle to quit [00:19:51] Lesley’s turning point: community support and the “not yet” lesson [00:22:45] Reframing sobriety support as a positive group experience [00:25:11] Practical strategies for sober socializing and beverage choices [00:27:43] How sobriety transformed Lesley’s inner life, anxiety, and relationships [00:31:10] Connection between quitting drinking and reduced anxiety [00:33:27] Compassion, motivation, and the underlying drivers of addiction [00:34:45] Shame, invisible struggles, and the cost of high-functioning addiction [00:36:17] Lesley’s vulnerable story of using alcohol to cope with anxiety as a teen athlete [00:40:22] About Traveling Pendants: fostering connection and story-sharing for strength [00:42:03] Special offer for listeners: Traveling Pendants discount [00:43:33] Rapid...

Happy New Year from your host, Amy Stone. This is a short introduction to season 2 of The Art of Imperfect Adulting. The purpose of this new short audio trailer is to wake up your podcast feed and let the robots know that new episodes are coming soon. Yay for technology! The mission of the show as we begin 2026 is to amplify voices of individual experience. Fresh and fun interviews coming up next.

Amy Stone, host of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, wraps up her milestone year with episode #178, reflecting on launching the show in January 2025sharing honest lessons learned as a creator in the world of imperfect adulting and personal growth.Topics Amy babbles about in this episode include:• Amy’s heartfelt gratitude for listeners, supporters, and guests—plus a special shoutout to her running buddy Pepe• Behind-the-scenes recap: Amy shares top episodes (Devon Adrian, Jane Epstein), unexpected growth, and podcast milestones• Real talk: Honest reflections on guest feedback, bloopers (like the infamous misspelled name and broken Apple Podcasts link), and what it’s really like running every part of the show herself • Behind-the-scenes insights on finding community, guest surveys, and what’s next as she builds her production team.📧 Join Amy's email list for the real inside scoop: This is where Amy shares what she's working on, where she'll be, and how to work with her www.imperfectadulting.com🎧 If you're looking for the audio podcast you can find links here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/listen💭 What’s the biggest imperfect lesson you learned this year? Drop your thoughts below!#ImperfectAdulting #PodcastBehindTheScenes #RealStories #PersonalGrowth #LifeTransitions #WomenCreators

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Austin, Texas-based Megan Okonsky about the realities of letting go of “dream plans,” adulting without a roadmap, and how turning disappointment into adventure can lead to unexpected personal and professional rewards. Megan shares her journey from college graduation and Peace Corps rejection to two years of solo international travel, eventually making a home and career.About the Guest:Megan Okonsky is a professional ghostwriter specializing in memoirs and business books. After pivoting from a degree in public relations and missing out on her Peace Corps dream, Megan spent her early 20s traveling solo through Europe, Southeast Asia, Australia, and South America, all while building her writing career. Her work now helps entrepreneurs and everyday heroes share their stories with the world.Main Topics Covered:Facing rejection and disappointment after college graduationApplying to the Peace Corps and adapting when plans don’t work outSolo travel: Couchsurfing, working abroad, and building resourcefulnessProfound shifts that come with life on the road—and choosing to come homeStarting a freelance writing career on Upwork, turning travel experiences into professional growthThe realities and safety considerations of solo travel, especially for womenHow Megan became a ghostwriter, what ghostwriting involves, and why sharing stories mattersThe importance of community, support systems, and self-discovery in early adulthoodQuote from the Episode:“I decided after two years that I didn’t want to do all of this alone anymore. … I wanted a community. I wanted people to share the memories with.” — Megan OkonskyTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & intros; Megan’s home base and holiday travel talk[00:03:33] Megan’s Peace Corps dream—where it came from[00:06:53] Navigating college and career indecision[00:12:29] Peace Corps rejection and grappling with an uncertain future[00:18:34] How travel became the new plan—finances, flights, and backpacking[00:24:44] Summer trip turns into two years abroad: couchsurfing, hostels, and working[00:34:58] Moving home, searching for community, and planning for the future[00:36:37] Solo travel safety, challenges, and lessons learned[00:45:32] Megan’s ghostwriting career—what she does and who she helps[00:49:56] Lightning round: favorite meal, book recommendation, and running shoesSpecial Offer from the Guest:Megan is offering a complimentary 30-minute discovery call to podcast listeners interested in memoir or business ghostwriting. Mention TAOIA when you book via her website at https://www.meganokonsky.com  for priority scheduling.Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Click here and pitch yourself. Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Los Angeles- based Missy Toy Ozeas about the transformative journey from people-pleasing and hiding one’s true self to embracing intuition and stepping fully into a new life purpose. Missy shares her story of leaving a decades-long television career after a powerful intuitive message, the challenges of honoring inner guidance after a lifetime of masking, and how synchronistic events shaped her new path as a healer helping others break through limiting beliefs.About the Guest:Missy Toy Ozeas is a highly skilled energy healer and intuitive channel dedicated to helping visionary leaders and change-makers step into their full power by releasing limiting beliefs, trapped emotions, and generational patterns.As an intuitive guide with certifications in the Emotion Code, Body Code, Belief Code, spiritual life coaching and more, Missy has led thousands of sessions helping people live the lives they’ve always dreamed of. Her clients include wellness coaches, entrepreneurs, artists, Hollywood creatives and more.Main Topics Covered:Navigating midlife transitions—career burnout, empty nesting, and “the shoulds” of adulthoodHearing an intuitive message and unraveling lifelong patterns of people-pleasing and maskingThe role of meditation and self-inquiry in discovering one’s true pathOvercoming the fear of judgment from family and communityWhat energy healing really means—from a practical and scientific perspectiveUnderstanding synchronicity and following signs toward purposeful changeWorking with beliefs, intuition, and inherited energy to achieve breakthroughsThe challenges and gifts of coming out as an intuitive and healer after a conventional upbringingQuote from the Episode: "I think that we often ignore it’s like the little itch, that little thing. Because...the universe is always wanting us to expand and to grow. I mean, life is about growing and expanding. And if we’re not doing that, it will start small, like, hey, Missy, you know, check something else out...But if I’m not listening, if I’m not taking action, it’s going to get louder and it’s going to get louder." — Missy Toy OzeasTimestamps: [00:00:04] Welcoming Missy Toy Ozeas & where she calls home[00:00:46] The “shoulds” and the pressures of the holiday season[00:01:47] Hearing the voice: “You are a healer”[00:04:49] How intuition showed up—clairvoyance, not clairaudience[00:05:27] What life looked like before the shift—career in TV, motherhood[00:07:54] Childhood dreams & hiding parts of her identity[00:12:23] Growing up Chinese American in a white neighborhood; learning to mask[00:18:50] The impact of hearing the voice and what changed next[00:21:25] Synchronicities & finding her first energy healing teacher[00:22:50] What is an energy healer? Explaining energy fields, beliefs, and her work[00:27:19] Client stories about inherited beliefs and breakthroughs[00:28:01] The reaction from family, friends, and community[00:29:58] What Missy does today & ways to connect[00:31:55] Rapid fire: favorite food, moon colonies, and driving[00:33:59] ClosingSpecial Offer from the Guest:Unlocking Abundance - $190.  Unlocking Abundance is a self-paced program that helps you release hidden energetic blocks and rewire limiting beliefs so you can confidently attract more wealth, freedom, and joy into your life.  For your listeners I'm offering 50% off the price of the program.  (It will be $95 with the discount.) Use the code IMPERFECT at checkout.  Here is the direct link to the Unlocking Abundance sales page:  https://www.missyenergyhealing.com/UnlockingAbundanceNote from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Texas-based Claudette Fette about raising her son Aaron through schizoaffective disorder, the complexities of finding proper support, and the painful realities of imperfect systems and desperate decisions. This frank, compassionate conversation explores multi-generational trauma, the struggle for diagnosis, and the human side of surviving—and learning from—the unexpected path of parenting a child with serious mental illness.About the Guest:Claudette Fette is an occupational therapist, university lecturer, and lived-experience mental health advocate based in North Texas. After decades spent navigating systems for her son Aaron, Claudette became committed to sharing their story and promoting evidence-based approaches in both family and school settings. She is co-author of "No Saints Here: A Cautionary Tale of Mental Health, Illness and the Cost of Ignorance in the Lone Star State," a memoir written with Aaron chronicling their struggles, lessons, and hope.Quote from the Episode:"Guilt is not as useful. So if it does something, if it helps motivate me to get Aaron's story out there and talk about things in public that I wouldn't otherwise want to have talked about, then it is useful. If it doesn't motivate something that helps, can you really afford it?" — Claudette FetteMain Topics Covered:Raising a child with schizoaffective disorder and multi-layered traumaHow lack of resources and inadequate systems lead families to extreme decisionsThe impact of early childhood adversity, school struggles, and misdiagnosisWhy behavioral approaches can be harmful when mistaken for mental illnessThe realities of abusive residential treatment programs and lost trustThe power of wraparound services, restorative justice, and strength-based modelsNavigating judgment, isolation, and the need for supportive family networksLessons for advocacy, compassion, and building mental health literacyTimestamps:[00:00:07] Welcome and Claudette’s home in North Texas[00:01:10] Holiday challenges for big families[00:02:07] Aaron’s story: early adversity, childhood hallucinations, and lack of parental readiness[00:06:01] Schizoaffective disorder diagnosis and unique challenges in school[00:16:31] Resource scarcity and "moving for specialized care"[00:17:20] Early behavioral challenges vs. underlying mental illness[00:25:04] Misdiagnosis and medical pathways: ADHD to acute residential care[00:31:51] Straight—abusive institutional “treatment” and the aftermath[00:35:16] Aaron living on the streets and “hopping trains”[00:41:23] Magical thinking: what would have helped[00:47:15] Isolation, judgment, and coping as a parent[00:50:49] Sharing Aaron and Claudette’s story through their book[00:58:35] Claudette’s personal life, entertainment, and ideal vacationSpecial Offer from the Guest:Claudette invites listeners to explore her and Aaron’s book, "No Saints Here," offering authentic, practical insight into family mental health. For podcast listeners, she extends an offer to connect and share resources, stories, and support. Order on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/a/87491/9781965766064Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Chicago-based Valerie Friedlander about how intentional choices, including something as small as changing the music you listen to, can lead to major life shifts. Valerie opens up about her journey from family dynamics shaped by addiction, to her self-awareness breakthroughs in college, and her long-standing love affair with music as a tool for emotional processing and personal growth.About the Guest:Valerie Friedlander is a certified life coach, podcast host of Mindset Unlimited, and lifelong Chicagoan with deep roots in music, creativity, and self-development. Valerie is passionate about supporting women through life and career transitions, helping them unpack old patterns and create empowered, intentional lives. She offers coaching, workshops, and a powerful Energy Leadership Index assessment.Main Topics Covered:Valerie’s roots in Chicago and her family’s musical legacy.The ripple effect of growing up in a family impacted by addiction and recovery.Why music is both an emotional touchstone and a tool for moving through difficult feelings.Valerie’s “epiphany moment” realizing she could make different choices about the soundtrack of her life—and what that symbolized for bigger life changes.The importance of intentionality, pausing before responding, and recognizing where we do (and don’t) have agency.Navigating relationships, boundaries, and self-awareness from college through adulthood.Playlists, parenting, technology, and evolving ways to connect with others.The distinction between self-reflection for growth and unhelpful self-judgment about past choices.How Valerie brings these insights to her coaching practice.Quote from the Episode:“I can choose what I resonate with and what serves me... I can choose not to stay there. I can choose to do things that allow me more room in my experience.” — Valerie FriedlanderTimestamps: [00:00:06] Introductions, Chicago roots, and indigenous land acknowledgments[00:02:17] Valerie's love of celebrating with food and cake-making adventures[00:04:03] How music—and Amy Mann’s “Magnolia” soundtrack—became the soundtrack to a pivotal life shift[00:13:48] College, codependency, family recovery, and the toolbox of self-help[00:20:50] The power of self-awareness and talking it out loud[00:32:38] Navigating relationships with pause, consent, and intention[00:40:27] Curating music, playlists, and the power of intentional emotional shifts[00:44:27] Self-reflection, choices, and patterns across adulting[00:55:24] Valerie’s coaching philosophy and how to connect[00:57:38] Final fun questions: movement, research, and connection stylesSpecial Offer from the Guest:The Energy Leadership™ Index (ELI) Assessment. Normally $375. Use the code IMPERFECT for 60% off. https://valeriefriedlander.com/AdultingELINote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support. ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Connecticut based Karen C.L. Anderson about her decision to go “no contact” with a parent, the impact of childhood trauma and shame, and the path to healing and self-acceptance. Karen shares her own story of estrangement from her mother, breaking generational cycles, and creating a life rooted in intentional identity and boundaries.About the Guest:Karen C.L. Anderson is an author, coach, and sought-after voice in the field of mother-daughter relationships. Her latest book, You Are Not Your Mother, and her coaching practice help adult daughters and mothers understand and shift family patterns, recover from shame, and create healthier boundaries. Karen brings a blend of lived experience, deep empathy, and practical wisdom to the conversation.Main Topics Covered:The slow, complicated process of deciding to go no contact with a parentChildhood trauma, neglect, and learning about shameEstrangement, cultural expectations, and family “rules”The emotional aftermath and healing that unfolds after setting boundariesUnderstanding nervous system responses, enmeshment, and generational cyclesHow new frameworks—including coaching and intentional identity—can change your relationship with shameThe difference between reconciliation, boundaries, and acceptanceQuote from the Episode:“I was trying and trying and trying and also thinking, well, there must be something wrong with me that I can't seem to get along with my mom... And then, I remember getting an email from her that said that she was disappointed in the person that I'd become. And it was like a knife in the heart.” — Karen C.L. AndersonTimestamps:[00:00:10] Welcome, where Karen calls home, and unconventional ways of celebrating[00:01:27] Decision to cut off contact with her mom—process, context, and terminology[00:04:47] Family structure, siblings, and growing up in blended families[00:05:41] Parental loss and the compounding grief of estrangement[00:07:28] Painful turning point: “I never felt safe with my mom”[00:16:07] Substance abuse, neglect, and lack of support in childhood[00:19:32] Adult friendship/enmeshment, codependency, and nervous system responses[00:22:10] Recognizing shame—Brené Brown and the awakening to inner narratives[00:24:33] Modalities and self-development: what helped (and what didn’t)[00:29:50] Setting a boundary: the practicalities and emotional fallout of no contact[00:36:02] Long-term impact, breaking generational cycles, and finding contentment[00:38:18] Karen’s work helping adult daughters and/or mothers heal and set boundaries[00:41:09] Fun quick questions—morning routines, favorite books, and Italian iceKaren’s Book is on Amazon and Bookshop.orghttps://bookshop.org/a/87491/9781684812660https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Not-Your-Mother/dp/1684812666Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Click here and pitch yourself. Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of...