The Art Of Imperfect Adulting

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Sheryl Ramstad about resilience, life-changing trauma, and finding meaning through unexpected adversity. Sheryl shares the riveting story of surviving a solo plane crash at age 29, her arduous physical and emotional recovery in a burn unit, and the surprising turn her career and personal life took as a result.About the Guest:Sheryl Ramstad is a survivor, trailblazer, and lifelong advocate for service. She has had successful careers in law, healthcare, and teaching. Above all, she treasures her role as a mother to three adult children and grandmother to six. Sheryl resides in Minneapolis with her husband, Lee."I would say that the prevalent thought I kept having was to not ask, why me? But what next? And that's what guided me throughout the rest of my decisions." — Sheryl RamstadMain Topics Covered:Sheryl’s path from aspiring lawyer and pilot to surviving a fiery plane crash on her first solo flightThe intersection of elective change (choices) and changes thrust upon us by fateDetails of her crash, the critical actions that saved her life, and the realities of acute traumaThe long and disempowering recovery from burn injuries, and the power of friends, family, and faithHow the accident reshaped her identity, career, and drive—and inspired her late-in-life nursing careerThe importance of patient voices in medical care, and giving back as a way to healWriting her memoir and the role of honesty about faith in her storytellingEndurance running after burns, facing public curiosity, and building a full life beyond traumaQuote from the Episode:"I would say that the prevalent thought I kept having was to not ask, why me? But what next? And that's what guided me throughout the rest of my decisions." — Sheryl RamstadTimestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome & intros; where Sheryl calls home[00:02:17] Surviving a plane crash at 29—Sheryl’s life before and after[00:05:02] Being a female pilot in 1979 and solo flight details[00:08:18] The crash, emergency decision-making, and escaping the wreckage[00:13:33] Trauma memory, hospitalization, and the emotional toll[00:17:24] Type A recovery struggles and loss of independence[00:24:20] Channeling adversity into a career in nursing and supporting burn survivors[00:28:40] Perseverance, faith, and support systems in healing[00:43:15] Could her growth have happened without the accident?[00:44:19] Writing Living Life Full Throttle—why and how[00:49:39] Integrating faith into her story[00:50:18] Book availability and final questionsFind Sheryl’s Book on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/a/87491/9781960876805 Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Click here and pitch yourself. Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kathy Barron about launching a niche digital magazine for women podcasters, building creative community, and the realities of independent media. Kathy shares her unconventional journey into publishing, her motivations for centering and promoting women in the podcasting sphere, and her new initiatives to support indie creators at every stage.About the Guest:Kathy Barron is the Founder and Editor-in-Chief of Women Who Podcast magazine, author of fiction and children’s books, and videographer. With a passion for supporting women podcasters  be successful in their craft, Kathy has become a trusted resource for women in podcasting. Women Who Podcast magazine celebrates women podcasters all over the world by giving them the accolades they deserve. Kathy is creating a safe space where women’s voices and stories matter. She strives to be a forum for fans and podcasters to reach out to one another for support, collaboration, and inspiration. Her vision is to create scholarships and mentorships to future podcasters, organize symposiums, and build a learning community. Main Topics Covered:The inspiration behind Women Who Podcast Magazine and its unique focus on women in audio media.Kathy's creative background and unconventional entry into digital publishing.The challenges and rewards of sustaining both a magazine and a podcast as an indie creator.Why community-building and mentorship matter for women podcasters.The launch and goals of the Women Who Podcast Awards.Addressing representation, burnout, and the need for supportive spaces for indie women in podcasting.Exploring growth, collaboration, and how listeners can get involved.Quote from the Episode:"I want it to be personable. I want to talk to the podcasters. I want to hear their story... everyone has their own unique background, why they started their podcast, what their story is, and some of them are just hilarious. So I enjoy that part—to get to know the podcasters." — Kathy BarronTimestamps: [00:00:00] Meet Kathy Barron & her Bay Area roots[00:00:43] A recent compliment: the Women Who Podcast Awards[00:02:15] What is Women Who Podcast Magazine?[00:03:12] Starting the magazine: pandemic inspiration & building from scratch[00:05:15] Kathy’s creative background and confession: “I don't listen to podcasts!”[00:07:22] Podcast origins with Women Who Sarcast[00:10:44] Why a magazine versus other formats?[00:12:54] The power of personal interviews & tackling meaningful topics[00:14:33] Representation stats and the importance of women’s spaces[00:18:09] Startup story & early issues[00:20:52] Community, service, and supporting others through media[00:23:04] Why a scholarship/mentorship program matters[00:26:12] What keeps Kathy going as an indie creator[00:28:32] Hopes for magazine growth and mentoring new writers[00:30:19] How podcasters can get involved[00:32:03] The very first issue & honoring a lost friend[00:33:02] Growth, momentum, and the role of awards[00:33:50] Ways to support and engage with Women Who Podcast Magazine[00:34:52] Get to know Kathy: Fun questions and more!Connect with the Guest:Website: womenwhopodcastmag.comInstagram: @womenwhopodcastmagazineNote from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer, please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.If you love the show and you'd...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Nicole Havelka—burnout recovery coach, ordained pastor, and founder of Defy the Trend—about the journey from institutional frustration in religious administration to finding wholeness at the intersection of spiritual practice and organizational change. Nicole opens up about the realities of working in faith-based organizations, facing resistance as an innovator, navigating personal burnout, and how yoga, meditation, and a spirit of “both/and” led to her latest chapter as a coach and podcaster.About the Guest:Nicole Havelka believes you are inherently worthy of rest — no productivity required. She’s a burnout coach, mindfulness teacher and founder of the Defy the Trend coaching community, which supports helpers, healers, activists and artists in reclaiming rest as a radical act. With more than 20 years of experience in spiritual leadership and wellness, Nicole will soon launch Burnout Tips for Everyday Radicals: Just Rest for world changers who are tired but not giving up, a podcast for those resisting grind culture one deep breath at a time. Main Topics Covered:Nicole’s career journey: from journalist to minister, then to burnout recovery coachThe inside story of church administration, institutional resistance, and advocating for organizational changeHow burnout showed up—and why yoga became a lifeline and “both/and” practiceThe importance of spiritual practice for navigating tough decisions and personal pivotsReclaiming faith and belonging: Nicole’s journey through disillusionment, leaving and returning to faith, and finding community againPractical discussions on salaries, money, and sustainability in religious workHow integrating yoga, meditation, and rest into leadership can support more humane organizationsThe launch of Nicole’s new podcast: Just Rest—Burnout Tips for Everyday RadicalsQuote from the Episode: "What if it’s not either/or, but both/and?" — Nicole HavelkaTimestamps: [00:00:05] Introductions and where Nicole calls home[00:01:22] Recent acts of kindness and everyday grace[00:03:11] Frustrations and burnout in faith-based administrative work[00:09:50] How Nicole became a denominational leader and the reality of church job searches[00:15:06] Evolving passions: from youth work to organizational change[00:20:07] Faith, the church, and leaving/returning to community[00:29:13] When journalism isn’t enough: becoming a participant, not just an observer[00:33:09] Returning to church and finding a new kind of home[00:34:43] Money talk: salaries and living as a faith worker[00:37:34] The parallel path of yoga: teacher training and integration with ministry[00:44:54] The both/and moment: when leaving doesn’t have to mean abandoning[00:47:26] Advice for those facing black-and-white decisions[00:49:54] Nicole’s current work, podcast, and where to connect[00:53:41] Fun wrap-up questions: coffee cake vs donut, favorite summer drink, friendship & supportSpecial Offer from the Guest:Read more about her radical rest quest on her Substack newsletter, Just Rest, where you'll be the first to hear about the podcast launch and how to support it. www.defythetrend.substack.com.Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer, please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kellie Grutko about the winding roads of creative ambition, career pivots, and rediscovering purpose after corporate life. Kellie candidly shares the story of following her dream to pitch a TV travel show pilot, why it never made it to air, and how the lessons from that risk-taking adventure eventually led her to coaching women through major life and career changes.About the Guest:Kellie Grutko is a women’s transition coach and founder of Purposeful Pivot. With a professional background in marketing and media, Kellie now helps women translate decades of corporate experience into fulfilling new phases of work and life. Her journey from high-powered executive, to travel show dreamer, to empowerment coach inspires her mission to support others navigating big changes.Main Topics Covered:Kellie’s leap from corporate marketing to pitching a travel TV show pilot.The realities of navigating creative dreams outside one’s comfort zone and network.Lessons learned from “failure” and the value of trying, even if the project doesn’t take off.Identity, reinvention, and finding your next chapter after leaving a traditional corporate role.The importance of support systems, introspection, and celebrating small wins during transitions.How Kellie now guides women through similar transitions as a certified coach.Quote from the Episode: “A lot of people would have the idea and never even give it a shot. I looked at it as, you know, I had an idea, I followed through. It didn’t work, but I learned from it. I had fun doing it. And eventually, in a weird, like you said, thread kind of way, it led me to where I am.” — Kellie GrutkoTimestamps: [00:00:04] Kellie’s background and move from Pennsylvania to Charlotte[00:01:34] Life and career at a Fortune 50 company; the origins of her TV show idea[00:08:59] Turning a dream into action: how Kellie developed, shot, and pitched her pilot[00:14:03] Financial realities, support from her husband, and staying motivated[00:21:03] The afterlife of a shelved project—accepting change and evolving goals[00:23:10] Transition coaching: redefining career and identity for women[00:28:22] Connecting the threads from past dreams to new purpose[00:32:59] Being brave, introverted, and going after what you want[00:33:39] Kellie’s business, Purposeful Pivot, and her “Celebrating Small Wins” offer[00:35:17] Fun closing questions: monkeys, turn signals, and thermostat negotiationsSpecial Offer from the Guest:Creating Small WIns Worksheet  https://www.purposefulpivot.net/small-winsNote from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Click here and pitch yourself. Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Katrina Sawa—Northern California-based business coach, author, and publisher—about the pivotal moments that led her to leave situations that no longer served her, from quitting a draining corporate job to making bold moves in her personal and professional life. Katrina shares how her clarity around self-worth and refusal to settle shaped her journey into entrepreneurship, and offers insights for anyone feeling “stuck” or undervalued in their work or relationships.About the Guest:Business Coach & Book Publisher, Katrina Sawa, is CEO of JumpstartYourBizNow.com and JumpstartPublishing.net. For over two decades, Katrina has been helping entrepreneurs of all kinds get more comfortable and clarity around marketing, pricing to their worth, packaging and selling themselves. As the creator of the Jumpstart Your Sales & Systems Bootcamp, International Speaker and International Best-Selling author with 22 books, she hosts and speaks at events, workshops and webinars online and in person all year long and she’s been doing it since 2002. Katrina lives in Northern California with her husband Jason, stepdaughter Riley and their loving dog Luna. She loves entertaining, cooking, wine tasting and speaking to groups of all sizes.Main Topics Covered:What it feels like to be in a job (or relationship) that’s no longer serving youHow workplace burnout and a lack of support catalyzed Katrina’s leap into entrepreneurshipThe role of intuition, self-worth, and risk-taking in moving forwardPractical support systems—from family help to lines of credit—that make transitions possibleIdentifying when you’re “settling” and why it’s okay (and necessary) to say noParallels between quitting a job, leaving a relationship, and ending a business offerNavigating unsupportive relationships and finding people who lift you upAdvice for anyone feeling stuck or undervalued in any area of lifeQuote from the Episode:“I want to empower people just to stop settling for not being totally happy. We deserve this. Life could be short. ... Let’s make it our happiest, most amazing life ever, with the right people around us, doing the things that we love and just embracing it all.” — Katrina SawaTimestamps: [00:00:04] Warm welcome & where Katrina calls home[00:00:49] Katrina’s philosophy on kindness and real-life support[00:02:36] The experience that led to leaving her last job[00:07:03] Self-worth, intuition, and walking away from “bad bosses”[00:10:32] Laying groundwork for entrepreneurship: networking & coaching[00:12:11] The leap into business ownership: excitement, nerves, and risk[00:15:26] What settling feels like—patterns in work and relationships[00:17:39] The crucial role of family support and financial planning[00:19:48] Are you a risk-taker? Katrina’s perspective[00:22:23] Recognizing settling and trusting your gut[00:26:34] The gentle process of deciding it’s time to move on[00:28:31] Parallels in quitting jobs, relationships, and business offers[00:29:19] Money, letting go, and making room for better opportunities[00:30:10] Katrina’s work today—business coaching and book publishing[00:31:32] Fun questions: favorite TV, networking, and desert island mealsSpecial Offer from the Guest:Get a free audio version of Katrina’s book Love Yourself Successful and explore resources for launching your own story via collaboration or solo publishing. Visit LoveYourselfSuccessful.com for more details.Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Julia Chien—Vancouver-based registered dietitian and passionate world traveler—about the life-changing impact of booking a one-way ticket and embracing adventure after heartbreak. Julia shares her story of leaving behind a comfortable routine, overcoming the limitations of chronic eczema, and discovering both freedom and loneliness during her years of solo travel across Central and South America, Europe, and Asia.About the Guest:Julia Chien is a registered dietitian based in Vancouver, BC, specializing in holistic nutrition and the root causes of chronic inflammation. Through her own journey healing from eczema and building a location-independent business, Julia helps others find balance and empowerment in their health and careers. She is also an avid solo traveler, digital nomad, and advocate for growth through risk-taking and self-discovery.Main Topics Covered:What inspired Julia's decision to buy a one-way plane ticket to Costa Rica at the end of a long-term relationship.Navigating the healing journey from chronic eczema and what newfound health enabled Julia to do.The logistics, emotional experience, and practical strategies of working remotely while traveling solo through multiple countries.How spontaneous decision-making, risk-taking, and meeting new people shaped Julia’s self-discovery and spiritual healing.The challenges of being a digital nomad—including loneliness, burnout, finances, and adapting to different cultures.Insights into Julia’s work as a holistic dietitian and the unique pressures of entrepreneurship.Learning to nurture one’s own wellbeing and redefine what “home” and “success” mean.Quote from the Episode:“Traveling really showed me how much out there there is that we haven’t really seen as people... it was healing in the sense where I kind of finally was able to do things for myself, because I realized that I poured so much into my business... I started to not really do things for myself.”—Julia ChienTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & intros; where Julia calls home[00:01:39] A one-way ticket to Costa Rica: the catalyst moment[00:02:20] Healing, heartbreak, and remote work: what led to travel[00:04:56] Leaving a healthy long-term relationship and mindset shifts[00:06:46] Booking the ticket: doubts, freedom, and practicalities[00:09:00] Choosing Costa Rica and first days as a solo traveler[00:12:02] Combining work and adventure as a digital nomad[00:14:25] From Costa Rica to Colombia: the spark for indefinite travel[00:16:47] How Julia chose her next destinations and the power of nature[00:18:25] Deciding how long to stay and returning home for milestones[00:19:57] Letting go of “home” and going all in as a digital nomad[00:21:48] Navigating logistics: connectivity, finances, and minimalism[00:25:43] Solo travel: from loneliness to community[00:27:11] Expanding to Europe and Asia: the full world tour[00:29:38] Living from a suitcase; how her travel rhythm evolved[00:31:13] Spiritual lessons, self-discovery, and redefining success[00:34:56] Adventures, risk-taking, and pushing boundaries[00:39:44] Could this transformation happen without travel?[00:41:57] Julia’s business, nutrition practice, and special offer[00:43:23] Fun questions & rapid-fire favoritesSpecial Offer from the Guest:Journalling Guide for Busy Entrepreneurs Value: $29 USD Special offer: FREE - https://julia-chien.mykajabi.com/journalling-guideNote from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with JoNeil Conley—Michigan-based nurse, organizational leadership expert, and self-described “bullyologist”—about the reality of workplace bullying in healthcare and beyond. JoNeil shares her personal story of facing intimidation, sabotage, and toxic leadership in the operating room, how she turned that experience into a research-backed crusade against bullying, and why “miracles can be found in the messes” of adult life. Together, Amy and JoNeil explore how individuals can recognize, document, and respond to bullying, and why no one is truly a “hot mess”—just someone moving through life’s most challenging chapters.About the Guest:JoNeil Conley is a nurse, coach, speaker, and organizational leadership expert from Alma, Michigan. After decades in healthcare—including ER and OR nursing, leadership roles, and earning her doctorate—she specializes in coaching women through life’s “hot mess” moments and is dedicated to helping individuals and teams navigate bullying and toxic environments with courage and clarity.Main Topics Covered:Navigating the geography, culture, and quirks of Michigan (and why it matters!)JoNeil’s journey from hands-on nursing to academic research on bullying in the operating roomThe anatomy of workplace bullying: sabotage, power dynamics, and the “executive bully”Why documenting facts (not just feelings) is critical for real change at workTurning a personal ordeal into a movement: JoNeil’s meanness matrix tool and doctoral research resultsThe enduring myth of “nurses eat their young”—how toxicity takes root in organizationsStrategies for protecting yourself from bullies, rude people, and narcissists (at work, at home, and beyond)The power of speaking up, building alliances, and surviving the “hot mess” seasons of adultingQuote from the Episode:“We have a tendency to call everything bullying…and that’s not true. Some people are just rude. The differentiation between a rude person and a bully is the bully is intentional—it’s about you.” — JoNeil ConleyTimestamps:[00:00:05] Where JoNeil calls home: Michigan “the Mitten” and the UP[00:02:37] What brings JoNeil laughter—her grandbaby[00:03:18] Childhood, nursing origins, “joiner” tendencies, and leadership[00:08:35] On entering nursing, ER burnout, and the road to the operating room[00:10:57] Team dynamics, hierarchy, and the anatomy of a sabotaging bully[00:12:49] The incident that triggered JoNeil’s anti-bullying journey[00:18:21] Recognizing bullying patterns, toxic cultures, and why people stay[00:21:23] Turning experience into expertise: JoNeil’s dissertation and OR research[00:27:27] The meanness matrix—you can’t stop all bullying, but you can protect yourself[00:29:08] Power, influence, and the importance of documenting facts[00:31:13] The confrontation: documenting, courage, and turning the tables on a toxic CEO[00:39:16] How to document incidents (and why it matters in any environment)[00:41:43] JoNeil’s work today—coaching women through “hot mess” seasons[00:46:01] Rapid-fire: water preferences, books, Michigan travel, and haunted lighthousesSpecial Offer from the Guest:Hot Mess HotlineThe Hot Mess Hotline is a one-hour, one-topic laser coaching session for women who are overwhelmed, stuck, or facing one of life’s “what now?” moments. Whether it’s burnout, a tough relationship, workplace chaos, or an identity shift, this session is your space to breathe, unpack what’s really going on, and leave with clear, doable next steps—and a whole lot more peace of mind. Value of the product offered: $97Special offer for the listeners of the show:Audience of The Art of Imperfect Adulting can book their Hot Mess Hotline session for just...

In this milestone episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, the tables turn as career strategist Raquel Sands takes the interviewer's seat to explore the origin story, philosophy, and evolution behind Amy's podcast journey. Originally planned as the 100th episode celebration (better late than never!), this candid conversation reveals the "why" behind the show's inclusive approach to storytelling and the messy, non-linear nature of adult life.From unexpected sources of wisdom (like exterminators offering grief advice) to navigating differing viewpoints on air, Amy opens up about creating space for authentic human stories while maintaining boundaries and building community. Raquel's spontaneous interviewing style draws out insights about the challenges of visibility, the power of lived experience, and why "imperfect adulting" resonates across generations.About the Guest HostMiriam Raquel Sands is a career strategist turned self-trust coach, podcast host, and creator behind A Work of One's Own and A Day in the Life. She helps purpose-driven, emotionally-aware Millennials and Gen Z professionals redefine success without toxic hustle or spiritual bypassing. Her work blends trauma-aware coaching, nervous system literacy, communications strategy, and storytelling to help clients reclaim self-trust, alignment, and capacity.Topics CoveredThe Origin Story Behind the ShowThe Art of PodcastingHolding Space for Different PerspectivesCommon Themes and Surprising StoriesThe Business of StorytellingVisibility and BoundariesMemorable Quotes"Very strangely, being a child doesn't prepare you to parent children." - Amy Stone on the myth that life experience automatically creates expertise"I find it very helpful to hear stories from people who have done the thing that I think I want to do, and they did it." - Amy on the power of practical inspirationConnect with Raquel linkedin.com/in/mraquelsandsTimestamps[00:00:04] Role reversal introduction and spontaneous energy [00:01:26] The origin story: from step-parenting focus to inclusive adulting [00:04:59] Unpacking the show title and the "art" of imperfection [00:05:37] Why podcasting as the chosen medium [00:09:14] Life moments that sparked introspection and the show's creation [00:14:28] The exterminator story: wisdom from unexpected sources [00:17:47] Navigating different viewpoints and guest perspectives [00:21:30] Visibility, boundaries, and the public-private balance [00:24:36] Behind the scenes: guest vetting and emotional readiness [00:27:13] Practical advice for pitching to the show [00:29:18] Surprising guest stories and common themes [00:34:43] Career and relationship changes as universal experiences [00:38:02] What Amy hopes listeners take away [00:41:35] Maintaining momentum and future vision [00:48:51] Dreams of expansion and the changing media landscape [00:54:53] Fun facts and closing reflectionsJoin the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Moira Mills about making unconventional choices around education, career, and family. Moira shares her upbringing as an unschooled Alaskan, her journey to becoming a solo parent by choice, and how she and her son have embraced a nomadic lifestyle, learning along the way. Together, they delve into unschooling, navigating the “shoulds” of adulthood, and finding growth and community off the beaten path.About the Guest:Moira Mills is a lifelong unschooler, entrepreneur, and former Rolfing practitioner who now helps entrepreneurs and families lean into their unique energy through human design. After raising her son on the road and embracing “road schooling” post-pandemic, Moira works with families making the shift to alternative education and supports business owners in authentic branding. She currently roams the eastern half of the U.S. with her son, London.Quote from the Episode:"I think that the way we're thinking about education is kind of inherently kind of backwards, because I think that we're really designed at a very core level [to learn]." — Moira MillsMain Topics Covered:What “road schooling” and “unschooling” look like in real lifeMoira’s own education outside of traditional classrooms in AlaskaThe nuances behind school choice, including faith and family valuesEmbracing flexibility, change, and a non-traditional path in career and familyHow milestones and benchmarks (in school and development) can be unhelpful or freeingCommunity, friendship, and socialization for families on the moveParenting as a single mom by choice and focusing on authentic livingTimestamps: [00:00:05] Moira’s background & current home on the road[00:01:05] Warm weather memories and living locations[00:02:10] Defining “road schooling” & “world schooling”[00:02:45] Moira’s unschooled upbringing on Alaska’s Kenai Peninsula[00:04:33] Diplomas, transcripts, and life after unschooling[00:05:32] Family choices and motivations behind homeschooling[00:07:16] Faith, stereotypes, and educational values[00:09:09] Shifting to unschooling for her son during the pandemic[00:10:03] What self-directed “unschooling” means[00:12:57] Career shifts, Rolfing, and systems thinking[00:16:02] The basics of Rolfing and fascia explained[00:20:15] Single motherhood by choice and making decisions solo[00:21:30] The leap to road schooling and embracing nomadic life[00:24:46] Curriculum, benchmarks, and letting interests lead[00:28:17] Socializing and building community as a roaming family[00:32:57] Looking ahead: how long will they stay on the road?[00:35:26] Moira’s business: human design for entrepreneurs and families[00:38:59] Final fun questions: overstimulation & sources for answers in 2025Guest Contact Information: Website: moiramills.comInstagram: @moiramills.meSpecial Offer from the Guest:Name of the product offered:Full Human Design Reading A 60–75 minute session where we dive deep into your unique Human Design chart. You’ll walk away with clarity about your energy type, decision-making strategy, and core life themes—plus insight into how to align your relationships, work, and parenting with who you truly are.Value of the product offered: $200Special offer for the listeners of the show:$50 off your Full Human Design ReadingVisit MoiraMills.com and mention the code IMPERFECT50 in your message. I’ll follow up personally to schedule your session.Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Victoria Carrington Chavez—digital nomad, storyteller, and founder of The Story Saloon—about her journey from “main character” to “author” of her own life. Victoria shares her transformative experience navigating a major breakup, detaching from societal checklists, and embracing her childhood dreams through intentional storytelling, entrepreneurship, and travel.About the Guest:Victoria Carrington Chávez is a storytelling powerhouse, award-winning entrepreneur, and TEDx speaker. Her talk has been praised as "a masterclass in storytelling." Featured on Telemundo, FIERCE by mitú, and over a dozen podcasts, she brings bold, honest energy to every stage she steps on, from college campuses to global conferences. Victoria doesn’t just speak. She sparks transformation.Through her platform, The Story Saloon™, she helps creative entrepreneurs and thought leaders distill and share their stories authentically and unapologetically, so they can build the community they crave and become unforgettable.Her message is simple. It’s not too late to live the life you want. The best chapters are still being written, so make them legendary. Your story is too important to go untold.Main Topics Covered:The difference between being the “main character” and the “author” of your storyNavigating a late-30s/early-40s life shift and healing from heartbreakLearning to recognize societal pressures and rewrite your own personal “checklist”The role of storytelling and content creation in healing and belongingBuilding intentional community and support systems onlineTaking bold steps: from post-breakup blues to solo cross-country road trips and TEDx talksThe process of distilling your story and using it to fuel your personal or business brandQuote from the Episode:“It’s not like, let me come and take center stage. It’s about taking my story, my values, and putting those things center stage in my life.” – Victoria Carrington ChavezTimestamps: [00:00:05] Victoria’s digital nomad lifestyle & Carmen San Diego reference[00:01:46] Giving kindness and compliments on LinkedIn[00:03:23] Main character vs. author of your story—what it means[00:05:51] Victoria at 35: teaching, engagement, outward perfection vs. inward emptiness[00:08:50] Recognizing discontent, ignoring hobbies, and doubting self[00:13:14] A telenovela-worthy breakup as plot twist and catalyst[00:15:52] Choosing authorship at 40: launching a business, traveling solo[00:19:47] Finding support and connection via TikTok, content creation[00:22:25] Mentorship, entrepreneurship, and joining the HEFA in Training community[00:24:07] Doing bold things—getting a passport, booking retreats[00:27:50] Seven-month solo road trip & embracing other people’s opinions[00:31:03] Claiming “storyteller” as a profession[00:34:13] About The Story Saloon and Victoria’s current work[00:36:54] Favorite activities, book recommendations, daily gadgetsSpecial Offer from the Guest:The Story Spark: A 60-minute 1:1 deep dive to help you uncover your signature story and shape it into content that connects. Perfect for: creatives, coaches, speakers, and founders who are sitting on a powerful story but don’t know where to start in sharing it with clarity and authenticity.Value:$297 Special offer for the show: As a thank you for tuning in, I’m offering your first Story Spark Session for FREE!How to collect: https://tidycal.com/victoriacchavez/the-story-spark Note from the host: All the offers from guests should be considered limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest. If you love the show and you'd...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Caterina Rando about the realities of becoming financially savvy after divorce, the power of entrepreneurial confidence, and the personal journey of recovery from financial betrayal. Caterina candidly shares her story of rebuilding after her marriage ended in unexpected financial upheaval, and the lessons she’s learned about financial empowerment, self-advocacy, and supporting other women to thrive through entrepreneurship.About the Guest: Caterina Rando is a woman on a mission to uplift the lives of women everywhere through thrive entrepreneurship. She is an author, sought-after speaker, podcaster, and business transformation coach who, for thirty years, passionately serves women leaders and entrepreneurs to massively monetize their mastery.Main Topics Covered:Navigating marriage, divorce, and discovering financial betrayalHow family history and cultural expectations shape money confidenceRecovering from debt and building back savings and investmentsWhy entrepreneurship is a powerful tool for women’s financial empowermentThe importance of asking “beginner questions” and learning financial vocabularyCreating boundaries and autonomy with money, even within marriage or partnershipDaily financial habits and the impact of financial trauma on future decision-makingQuote from the Episode: “Money gives you choices, and it can give you a feeling of freedom... If you don’t have the resources, you don’t have the choice.”—Caterina RandoTimestamps: [00:00:06] Caterina shares her background and love for San Francisco[00:02:06] Marriage, divorce, and family values around money[00:06:09] Financial roles in marriage & discovering financial infidelity[00:14:49] Recovering from debt after divorce and redefining financial savvy[00:19:30] What it means to be financially savvy—in savings, investing, and entrepreneurship[00:26:29] Why women should feel empowered to make financial decisions[00:33:39] Caterina’s journey from cafe owner to business coach[00:36:33] Caterina’s ongoing mission: empowering women through entrepreneurship[00:38:35] Caterina’s favorite travel story & advice from her mom[00:41:16] How Caterina uses tech and AI for learning and businessSpecial Offer from the Guest: Caterina invites listeners to attend her free monthly workshops on topics such as authentic selling, speaking to grow your business, business retreats, and more. Details and sign-up information are available at https://caterinarando.com/linksNote from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Tina Palmgren, business owner and Excel specialist, about navigating one of the darkest chapters of her life—a sudden and tragic loss that forever changed her relationship with family, grief, and herself. Tina opens up about becoming a young widow, losing the stepchildren she loved, and the unique ways she rebuilt her life, moving from "just being alive" to truly thriving.About the Guest: Tina Palmgren survived open heart surgery at the tender age of 15 months. Her passion is to strengthen the heartbeat of your business – the back-office processes needed to run your business.With a BA in Accounting, a master’s in technology management, 25 years in accounting and finance, and 12 years as an entrepreneur creating customized systems to your business’s needs and teaching Excel, Tina’s well-positioned to help you strengthen your business’s heartbeat by finding efficiencies and errors most others overlook. Main Topics Covered:The sudden and traumatic loss of Tina’s husband in her early thirties and the immediate aftermath.Navigating grief, loneliness, and the loss of her stepchildren due to a high-conflict stepfamily dynamic.The challenges of social support, workplace misunderstandings, and rebuilding a sense of community.How Tina redefined her self-worth, learned to accept joy, and embraced the courage to thrive—not just survive.Practical tools Tina used to process grief: gratitude journaling, reading, and gradually re-engaging with joy through everyday moments and new adventures.Tina’s journey to entrepreneurship and her philosophy of having fun with both life and work.Quote from the Episode: "I always heard 'you’re lucky to be alive' growing up... So you don’t deserve happiness, to thrive, to be abundant, to whatever. And didn’t know that. I incorporated that into my whole life. You’re alive, what more should you want? But it took me decades to realize: I deserve more than just breathing." — Tina PalmgrenTimestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome & intros; where Tina calls home[00:01:34] Tina’s marriage, stepchildren, and blended family background[00:04:41] Sudden loss: Tina’s husband’s heart attack and hospital days[00:07:05] The experience and aftermath of being widowed young[00:10:00] Losing connection with stepchildren and facing isolation[00:13:59] Family support, changes in communication, and small moments of laughter[00:14:50] Finding the courage to re-engage with life and social circles[00:20:12] From just surviving to thriving—defining what joy means[00:27:39] Practical healing: gratitude, reading, and faith[00:35:08] Starting her own business and embracing fun at work[00:36:37] Special offer, favorite books, and closing thoughts on travel and happinessSpecial Offer from the Guest: The Fortune Follow Up SystemSpecial Podcast Sale: $222 Link to purchase: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=Z5SSTGB93LUSANote from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer, please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social media. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes,...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Dr. Danielle Griffin about her journey through overwhelm, pandemic stress, and personal transformation. Danielle shares candidly about balancing multiple careers, family loss, and collective uncertainty, as well as how she rediscovered alignment through somatic practices and shifting her professional focus toward helping others heal from stress and trauma.About the Guest:Dr. Danielle Griffin is a leading speaker and coach dedicated to empowering busy professionals to overcome the complex interplay of physical discomfort and emotional overwhelm. As the award-winning author of Somatic Exercise Made Simple, she specializes in helping high-achievers reclaim their focus, boost productivity, and enhance their presence through accessible mind-body practices. With a doctorate and certifications in hypnotherapy and somatic approaches, Dr. Danielle provides tangible, actionable tools to reduce pain and stress, manage anxiety, and foster profound resilience. Her impactful presentations equip audiences with practical strategies to create positive change and unlock their full potential, even amidst demanding schedules.Main Topics Covered:Danielle’s life pre-pandemic: balancing family, career, and entrepreneurshipNavigating stress, uncertainty, and grief through COVID-19 and major life changesOutward resilience versus internal overwhelmThe concept of collective stress and its impact on communitiesHealing with somatic practices: breathwork, movement, and mind-body awarenessThe role of hypnotherapy in shifting mindset and finding clarityLetting go of hustle culture and creating space for intentional self-careHow Danielle helps clients implement practical, restorative routinesQuote from the Episode:"We’re reminded that our mental health isn’t just within our mind, but it’s carried within parts of our body... It allows you opportunities to relieve the stress and embodiment of that tension from within you." — Dr. Danielle GriffinTimestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & warmup: Danielle’s background and where she calls home[00:02:21] Life pre-pandemic: family, work, travel business, and daily routines[00:05:21] Lockdown changes: loss of social connection, work/career pressures, and home responsibilities[00:08:54] Outward resilience vs. internal overwhelm; family changes and stress compounds[00:14:36] Realizing overwhelm after major loss, postpartum, and stacked life events[00:20:28] Turning to yoga and somatic practices for relief[00:23:49] Defining collective stress, why it matters, and pandemic as a global shared trauma[00:37:24] What is somatic healing? Mind-body tools to release tension and heal[00:43:53] Creating her program: supporting clients with stress, pain, and trauma recovery[00:45:11] Fun questions: guilty pleasures, thoughts on aging, and favorite travel escapes[00:48:39] Upcoming trips, Mexico favorites, and closing gratitudeSpecial Offer from the Guest:Receive a free copy eBook, somatic exercise Made simple book 3 as well as any other books I release if they join my book review team https://mailchi.mp/33e037c9508c/free-e-book-reviewers-sign-upNote from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Amy Taylor—a Missouri-based mental health advocate, podcast host, and social worker—about how a diagnosis of thyroid cancer sparked a transformative journey toward living more intentionally. Amy shares the realities of cancer treatment, going back to school in her fifties, pivoting careers, and launching her own podcast and side hustle to support conversations around mental health and neurodivergence.About the Guest:Amy Taylor has nearly 30 years of experience as a social worker and recently obtained her MBA in her fifties. She believes fiercely in the power of choice—the right to love openly, to embrace every unique aspect of ourselves, and to live authentically. She has walked a path through mental health challenges, with the courage to face Bipolar Disorder, Anxiety, and ADHD, and she extends her hand to those who walk a similar road. As a single mom to a multiracial daughter on the spectrum, she has learned that differences are not barriers but gifts, bridging our understanding and compassion.Main Topics Covered:Amy’s cancer diagnosis, treatment process, and experience with radioactive iodine isolationRealizations about “autopilot” living, and the decision to make bold life changes after illnessReturning to school at age 52 to complete an MBA 20 years in the makingMaking a meaningful career pivot within social work and health advocacyLaunching a podcast and side hustle as a first-time entrepreneurBreaking down stigma and building online support for neurodivergent familiesQuote from the Episode:“I had a lot of time to think, and I thought a lot about how cancer is pretty scary. And I was not happy with the way my life was going. And there were things that I had wanted to do for years and had not done. And I thought, you know what? I'm not going to put it off anymore. I'm going to make these changes.” — Amy TaylorTimestamps: [00:00:08] Amy Taylor’s hometown and Kansas City connections[00:01:54] Receiving a thyroid cancer diagnosis and sharing her prognosis[00:03:17] Life before diagnosis: career, family, and “autopilot” routines[00:05:13] How Amy’s cancer was discovered through routine blood work[00:07:58] Undergoing radioactive iodine therapy and isolation[00:11:28] Complications in treatment and support from family[00:14:27] Facing mortality and intentional living during isolation[00:17:53] Decision to return to school and the challenges of finishing an MBA[00:22:19] Switching jobs for more meaning and less burnout in social work[00:25:57] Starting a podcast and side hustle for the first time[00:29:00] Building community around neurodivergence and mental health[00:30:03] Final fun questions: food, relaxation, and karaokeConnect with the Guest:Podcast: Mental Health Warrior & Neurospicy Mama https://open.spotify.com/show/6gSjJDMEff7WJr71zvZnwy?si=39cfbe74414442ea&nd=1&dlsi=33ee4d7fa9374fafSpecial Offer from the Guest:Get Amy Taylor’s “Who Am I?” guided journal for free—a resource designed to help you unlock self-understanding, clarity, direction, and mindfulness. Download available at advancingwithamy.com.Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Dr. Julie Marty-Pearson—an organizational psychologist, podcast host, and advocate for women’s voices—to explore what happens when life shifts beneath your feet. Julie opens up about her cascade of personal challenges, including a chronic illness diagnosis, the loss of her father, job upheaval, a major surgery, and the reckoning that came with the COVID lockdown. Through these tough transitions, she shares how she redefined her sense of self, found healing in storytelling and podcasting, and discovered a new purpose beyond the "traditional path."About the Guest:Dr. Julie Marty-Pearson is a Podcaster, Speaker, Coach, & Advocate empowering women to share their stories through podcasting. She coaches women to be awesome podcast guests and helps women launch and host their own show without breaking the bank. Julie has two podcasts, Podcast Your Story and The Story of My Pet. She also created the Women's Podcaster Party Networking Community and Podcast Your Story Community Membership to further support women and non-binary podcasters, podcast guests, and speakers.Main Topics Covered:Navigating chronic kidney disease and the limits it set on Julie’s life and workThe death of a parent and lessons in anticipatory and personal griefLosing jobs, financial anxiety, and the challenge of rebuilding in midlifeThe emotional toll of a hysterectomy and the stigma around being “childless”How COVID lockdown prompted a reevaluation of purpose and creativityFinding healing, identity, and connection through podcasting and storytellingThe unseen value of women who don’t follow the traditional path of marriage and childrenBuilding community as a “proud auntie,” animal advocate, and support network for othersQuote from the Episode:“I talk openly about a lot of this experience because I know so many people are going through it, either watching it happen or it already has happened and they don’t know what to do. And I think I’ve also found that podcasting is very therapeutic.”—Julie Marty-PearsonTimestamps:[00:00:05] Julie’s roots and home in Bakersfield, CA[00:03:16] The “cascade” of life events: illness, bereavement, job loss[00:08:34] How work and commuting shaped her relationships and self-image[00:10:17] Chronic kidney disease diagnosis and learning to advocate for her needs[00:16:53] Losing her father: anticipatory grief and community support[00:33:49] Job losses, marriage stress, and the breaking point[00:36:53] Hysterectomy, menopause, and identity as a woman without children[00:44:16] Pandemic lockdown as a catalyst for reinvention[00:46:09] Moving into coaching, animal care, and podcasting[00:52:01] Spirituality, seeing “signs,” and learning from the universe[00:55:14] Women’s invisible roles, “auntiehood,” and advocating for childfree women[01:02:03] What Julie is doing now: podcasting, advocacy, and helping women share their stories[01:03:36] Quickfire questions: routines, reading, and dream vacationsSpecial Offer from the Guest:Julie is offering a complimentary “Podcast Clarity Call” to listeners of The Art of Imperfect Adulting. If you’re curious about guesting on podcasts, launching your own, or simply want to explore how to share your story, mention this episode when reaching out! https://www.juliemartypearson.com/Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Julieta Duvall about her family’s journey from traditional schooling to an unschooling lifestyle. Julieta opens up about the challenges of upending societal expectations, the impact of the pandemic on her family’s choices, and the transformative work of shifting to a life built on partnership, flexibility, and intentional living.About the Guest:Julieta has spent 20 years as a flight attendant and now lives intentionally with her family. Their choice to home educate has brought them closer and fostered deeper alignment. She is dedicated to inspiring others to value and nurture living in partnership with their children.Main Topics Covered:How the COVID-19 pandemic and virtual schooling prompted Julieta’s shift to homeschooling and unschooling.The difference between traditional schooling, homeschooling, and unschooling philosophies.Challenging societal and cultural norms around work, school, and parenting roles.The importance of reconnecting with your children and yourself as part of the educational journey.Finding community and support through mentorship and local unschooling groups.The emotional work and self-reflection required to model partnership, communication, and imperfection as a parent.Rethinking family priorities: work, money, and time as intentional, life-affirming choices.Quote from the Episode: “The way I define unschooling, it's a life of partnership with your children. You meet in the middle. I don't have all the control, but they also don't have the control. And we are meeting everyone's needs in the middle.” — Julieta DuvallTimestamps: [00:00:06] Introductions and Michigan geography[00:01:02] Last compliment given—supporting a young instructor[00:01:17] Family background & school changes in 2020[00:03:11] Julieta’s educational path from Mexico to Michigan[00:07:45] The value of learning for life[00:08:40] Impact of pandemic on schooling decisions[00:13:45] Julieta’s pre-pandemic struggles with the “busy” life[00:20:39] Transition from traditional homeschooling to unschooling[00:24:03] Letting go of curriculum; reconnecting with her son[00:28:26] The philosophy of unschooling and “radical unschooling”[00:35:18] Emotional labor and breaking societal conditioning[00:41:08] Faith, parenting philosophies, and real life learning[00:42:54] The personal (and ongoing) work behind family alignment[00:47:52] Family communication and partnership in daily life[00:49:02] Rethinking work, money, and intentional living[00:53:57] Where to connect with Julieta, closing questionsConnect with the Guest: Instagram: @the_unschooling_lifestyleJoin the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kyla Holley, founder of the Australian Centre for Eating Behaviour and host of the “Change Your Relationship with Food” podcast. Kyla shares her candid story of how gallbladder surgery in her early 40s became a turning point, leading to a personal and professional transformation—from navigating binge eating disorder to helping others heal their own relationship with food. Together, Amy and Kyla explore medical interventions, midlife reinvention, body acceptance, and the evolving landscape of weight loss and wellness.About the Guest:Kyla Holley is a Therapist and Founder of the Australian Centre for Eating Behaviour (ACFEB). She leads a community of over 1000 ACFEB trained health professionals, and continues to work in private practice to keep her clinical experience up to date. She also hosts an award-winning podcast Change your Relationship with Food.Main Topics Covered:The life-changing impact of gallbladder surgery and the revelations that followedKyla’s journey with binge eating disorder and finding self-acceptanceThe role of counselling and education in transforming relationships with foodBariatric surgery, the rise of GLP-1 medications (Ozempic/Tirzepatide), and global trendsWhy weight and body image are so complex—and why shame and judgment don’t helpBuilding a new career and helping others after personal transformationThe crucial value of laughter, partnership, and living authentically through midlife changesQuote from the Episode:“It was just a quest for the inside and the outside to match … This wasn’t really a quest for thinness. I wouldn’t put myself into that category even now. But it was just a quest for the inside and the outside to match.” — Kyla HolleyTimestamps: [00:00:00] Kyla’s background: from the UK to Australia; laughter & resilience in marriage[00:02:30] The story behind gallbladder surgery and the “five Fs”[00:04:15] When health forces a reckoning: self-acceptance vs. change[00:09:24] Studying counselling, becoming her own case study, and life/career transformation[00:15:04] Deciding to re-train, approach her surgeon, and start helping others[00:18:46] Working with bariatric patients; realizing the need for eating disorder expertise[00:23:10] The GLP-1 medication boom and what’s happening for patients in Australia[00:29:02] Why relationship with food is key—beyond medication or surgery[00:34:11] Bringing expertise to a global audience; Kyla’s podcast & training centre[00:35:35] Fun questions: Princess Cake, favorite TV shows, and dream kitchen upgradesSpecial Offer from the Guest:Mention this episode of “The Art of Imperfect Adulting” to receive a 10% discount on Kyla’s online professional training courses for a limited time. www.acfeb.comNote from the show:Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer, please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Tiffani Bibb about what happens when a Christmas Eve accident sparks a wave of life-altering decisions. Tiffani opens up about her journey through injury, divorce after 15 years of marriage, and a transformative reinvention of both body and career, all marked by self-honesty and bold, sometimes messy, action.About the Guest:Tiffani Bibb is a mom to a fearless 10-year-old girl, HR professional by trade, and personal reinvention coach for women who are ready to shake things up. She lives in Jacksonville, Florida, where sunshine and water adventures keep me grounded. Tiffany is a nonprofit executive and in my “free” time, she runs an HR consulting business and coach mid-life, mid-career women through the mindset shifts needed to stop fearing change and start chasing what they really want. Main Topics Covered:How a Christmas Eve accident led to months of forced stillness and deep self-reflectionNavigating marriage, motherhood, and the choice to end a long-term relationshipThe role of therapy (individual and couples) and the importance of honesty with oneselfEmotional and physical transformation through weight loss and lifestyle changeDealing with family, financial, and community reactions to rapid personal changeLaunching and relaunching a coaching business, and making the leap from side hustle to full timeSupporting other women through periods of uncertainty, reinvention, and dreaming biggerQuote from the Episode: “When you’re knocked on your butt, you have a lot of time to think. ... My mind got really busy and I started thinking about where I was in life—and was I truly okay with where I was? The answer was a resounding no in some places of my life.”—Tiffani BibbTimestamps: [00:00:05] Jacksonville origins, family warmth, and Florida quirks[00:01:12] Laughter as medicine—finding joy in parenting[00:02:18] What “normal” Christmas Eve looked like vs. what actually happened[00:04:21] The accident: racing her daughter, refusing an ambulance, and urgent care visit[00:08:13] The aftermath—months in bed, forced introspection, and relationship reflection[00:09:57] Childhood dreams: a vision of career, independence, and family[00:15:06] Deciding to leave a marriage, the process of realization, and seeking support[00:19:11] The emotional and physical transformations post-separation[00:21:19] Community reactions to big life changes—old friends vs. new friends[00:23:02] Building a coaching business, setbacks, and relaunching with purpose[00:26:40] Final fun questions: fears, secret wishes, and favorite way to listen to musicSpecial Offer from the Guest:Tiffani is offering podcast listeners her “Rituals and Routines” Masterclass. Access this free resource by visiting https://tbibbcoaching.myflodesk.com/successrituals Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer, please reach out to the guest or vendor directly.If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Alli Williams, founder of Financialli Focused about the emotional and financial journey of canceling her first wedding, processing loss, and what it taught her about boundaries, money, and relationships. Alli candidly recounts how she called off her wedding just two months before the big day, the challenges of managing other people’s expectations and the reality of “eating” the sunk costs. She also delves into her later marriage, where she and her husband faced $154,000 of combined debt, and how her experiences sparked a thriving career helping others pay off debt and take charge of their finances.About the Guest: Alli is the founder and CEO of FinanciALLI Focused, a financial literacy company helping people create a flexible financial plan they can actually stick to (no deprivation here). She paid off over six-figures of debt while still saving, investing, and buying season football tickets.She has her MBA in Finance and lives in South Carolina with her husband and 2 sons. She spends her time at football games (Go Gamecocks!) and with a Starbucks latte in her hand.Quote from the Episode: “I was scared to lose that money… at 22, like $7 or $8,000 was like what we lost or in deposits, and at 22, I didn’t have that much money to start. Now, you know, in the grand scheme of things, that doesn’t matter. But for me at 22… losing that was a really big deal and definitely played a factor in, do I want to go through with this or not?” — Alli WilliamsMain Topics Covered:Calling off a wedding: navigating social pressure, financial losses, and family reactionThe regional and cultural influences on “right age” for marriageMoney logistics: who pays for the wedding, what’s nonrefundable, and why deposits matterProcessing guilt, fear, and relief when making “big” adult decisionsDiscussing money and debt openly in relationships—and why it matters before marriageTackling $154,000 in debt as a couple: communication, teamwork, and creative strategiesHow Alli turned her journey with money into a business helping others pay off debt without giving up the things they loveGenerational shifts in student loans, debt obligations, and financial planningTimestamps: [00:00:07] Alli’s intro, family, and rural South Carolina life[00:02:11] College romance, engagement at 22, and wedding planning[00:03:16] Marriage culture: North vs. South, family expectations[00:05:25] Who paid for the wedding? “Mid-size” details and budget[00:06:55] Why Alli began questioning her decision—and the “aha” moment with her friend[00:12:25] The wedding was 60 days away: facing financial and emotional aftermath[00:17:03] Family/friend reactions and letting go of people-pleasing[00:23:33] Marrying into six-figure debt: open conversations and financial teamwork[00:29:43] Paying it off: strategy, sacrifices, and realism[00:32:59] Alli’s business: Financialli Focused—how she helps others tackle debt & win with money[00:36:24] Special offer: Debt Free Blueprint and why budgeting doesn’t mean “beans and rice”[00:37:07] Final three questions: best advice received, belly button piercing story, aging gracefullyConnect with the Guest: Website: www.financiallifocused.comInstagram: @financiallifocusedSpecial Offer from the Guest:The Debt Free BlueprintThis ebook shows you how I paid off $154K in under 4 years without giving up Friday night takeout, weekend getaways, or my sanity Normally $57 but only $27 for your listeners https://amy_stone--financiallifocused.thrivecart.com/ebook-welcome/Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram...

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Janelle Martin about her transformative journey as a parent navigating her daughter’s struggle with addiction and the process of letting go of control. Janelle candidly shares how the experience forever changed her relationship with her daughter, her own healing journey through the 12-step process, and how this path shaped her life’s purpose and career.About the Guest:Janelle Martin is a licensed counselor, neurofeedback provider, and the author of two books, including her latest, Losing Her, Finding Us: A Mother’s Fight, A Daughter’s Journey and the Road to Recovery. Her life was forever changed by her family’s experience with addiction—a journey that reshaped not only her personal life but her professional path. Today, she owns a holistic mental health practice and works with individuals and families navigating trauma, stress, and substance use. Janelle also facilitates weekly PAL (Parents of Addicted Loved Ones) support groups and is passionate about helping others find hope in the midst of struggle. Her story, rooted in both pain and healing, is the heart behind everything she does.Main Topics Covered:What it’s like parenting a child through addiction and crisis as a “regular” middle-class familyRealizing the limits of parental control and shifting focus to self-healingThe challenges of navigating boundaries, letting go, and processing grief as a parentThe power and practicality of 12-step programs for parents (Al-Anon) as tools for growthHow releasing control positively changed Janelle’s relationship with her daughter—from conflict to collaboration, and eventually, to becoming work partnersThe importance of sharing both parent and child perspectives around addiction and recoveryThe long-term, lifelong nature of recovery journeys and the impact on purpose and careerQuote from the Episode:“You can’t rebuild a relationship from a standpoint of, I did everything right. You have the problem. So I’m going to let you figure out how to make it right. It doesn’t work that way.” — Janelle MartinTimestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome & introductions; where Janelle calls home[00:01:13] Laughter, dogs, and the healing power of humor[00:02:13] The beginning of her family’s experience with addiction[00:05:08] Family background, divorce dynamics, and co-parenting struggles[00:12:15] What “trying to fix it” looked like and early attempts at control[00:16:04] Crisis point, choosing tough boundaries, and entering treatment[00:22:14] Discovering healing and surrender through Al-Anon and the 12 steps[00:24:22] The impact on her relationship with her daughter—and the slow, honest rebuilding[00:32:11] Giving up control: school, sobriety, and patience with relapse[00:38:07] The trauma and difficulty of letting her adult child make her own decisions[00:40:28] Self-care: prayer, meetings, and the importance of supportive community[00:42:54] Why recovery isn’t “over”—and how it continues to shape Janelle’s purpose[00:46:49] On writing the book together and the importance of sharing both perspectives[00:50:52] About Janelle’s counseling practice, books, and how to connectConnect with the Guest: www.ourbeautifulrecovery.comIf you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes,...