Unseriously

If you like your Bible teachers funny then don't miss this episode with the delightful Glenna Marshall. Come walk the ridgepole of the Barry family roof with Glenna and Holly, gasp at Glenna's unpopular opinions, see if you have the soup gene, and join Holly in demanding her group chat be renamed to honor the Puritan theologian Richard Sibbes.If you're Kate Albus, you're going to want to listen to this one. Glenna digs in for sure on this episode, but digs herself right out again with the offering of her blondie bars recipe, aka butterscotch brownies, which you'll find at the end of these show notes.Find Glenna trolling Instagram, where she's a super fun follow. She has authored the books Known & Loved, Memorizing Scripture, Bible Study, and the upcoming Praying In Pain. You can also find her at glennamarshall.com.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. from Glenna:My recipe is the Butterscotch Brownies from the Bridal Edition of the Betty Crocker Cookbook I got as a newlywed in 2003. I have made these bars for my family and church functions for more than twenty-two years. If you have a baby or a funeral or a surgery, you’re probably going to get these from me and you’re going to love them. I’ve tried to locate the original recipe online but can only find variations of it. This one is the closest, but I use a whole cup of flour per the original recipe. You need to let them sit for about an hour before cutting and serving or they will fall apart.BUTTERSCOTCH BROWNIES1/4 cup shortening1 cup light brown sugar (packed)1 egg3/4 cup sifted flour1 teaspoon baking powder1/2 teaspoon salt1/2 teaspoon vanilla1/2 cup chopped nutsHeat oven to 350°F degrees. Grease an 8-inch square pan.In a saucepan melt shortening over low heat. Take from the heat and stir in the brown sugar. Set aside to cool. Into the cooled sugar and shortening stir in the egg. Add the sifted flour, baking powder, and salt and blend well. Then stir in the vanilla and chopped nuts.Spread in pan. Bake 25 minutes, only until a toothpick stuck in center comes out clean. Do not overbake.Cool in the pan and cut into squares.Makes 16 2-inch squares.

It's author, editor at Moody Publishers, and all-around homestead-pioneer-frontier-woman Amanda Cleary Eastep in today's episode of Unseriously! Join Holly as she hears about Amanda doing battle with snakes on the side of the house and her own salty self while on Chicago mass transit. Holly and Amanda will talk kids and kids' books, writing friends, and modern day packhorse librarians. Amanda is the author of the Tree Street Kids series from Moody publishers, just right for your early elementary adventure-seekers. Treestreetkids.com is the place to go for free excerpts of all six books in the series, plus fun, free printables of the science, history, and literature facts found in the books. You can also subscribe to Amanda's kidlit newsletter here, or find Amanda on Instagram.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

In this very special 2-part series with pastor Bob Flayhart, Unseriously premieres the latest addition to the podcast--occasional episodes called Get Serious. Where the PG episodes go off the rails, Get Serious episodes head in the opposite direction. In them, you'll hear beloved Unseriously guests talk about what's nearest and dearest to their hearts. For our first one, Holly and Bob Flayhart will talk pastoral transition, gospel waltz, and have a candid conversation about what's plaguing the modern American church.Bob and Holly partnered up on the book version of Bob's life sermon, The Gospel Waltz, available on ⁠Amazon⁠ or ⁠from the publisher⁠. You can also join up with a Gospel Waltz Journey weekend retreat, and find information about how to introduce your church or ministry to that ⁠here⁠ from ⁠Gospel Tree Ministries⁠.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

In a very special 2-week Unseriously series it's founding and long-term pastor Bob Flayhart of Oak Mountain Presbyterian Church in Birmingham, Alabama. This first episode is what we're used to around here--pastors talking about how they're most likely to get arrested, grandkids calling out during church service, and avoiding the floof. Next week you can look for a little bit of fun and then the No. Holds. Barred. Bob as he answers some of Holly's more serious questions.Bob and Holly partnered up on the book version of Bob's life sermon, The Gospel Waltz, available on Amazon or from the publisher. You can also join up with a Gospel Waltz Journey weekend retreat, and find information about how to introduce your church or ministry to that here from Gospel Tree Ministries.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Look, Annie B. Jones is a terrible texter and a recent understander of muting a text conversation--so she totally didn't mean to announce to everyone that she was leaving the family. Join Holly as she and Annie talk pet words, the evolution of one of Isaac's nicknames *that we all have to ensure has an end point,* and how they're missing the days when everyone was just having fun on the internet. Joe Burrow will make an appearance. So will Nicole Conrad, Charles Martin, Laura Tremaine, and Kristen Suzanne. Hannah Rosenberg: you do not want to miss this episode.Annie's book, Ordinary Time, was one of Holly's 5-star reads in 2025 and it's out in paperback in April. You can find Annie's newsletter, Sunday Porch Visits, here, as well as her super popular podcast, From the Front Porch. If you're near Thomasville, Georgia, you don't want to miss a stop by The Bookshelf, but if you're not so fortunate as to find yourself nearby, then you can find Annie on Instagram on her personal page, The Bookshelf's page, or on her private book recommendations Instagram.Just a reminder that the nickname "Tubby Teddy" must have an end point.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

They're in her car. She's just going to go run and grab them right quick...Join Tyler Drouet of @simplify_parenting and Holly as they discuss some hacks for snacks, how to talk to your kids when they get out of school, and how the best memories are when the parents are ALSO enjoying themselves. Here's the ⁠Double Ditto⁠ game Tyler references.Tyler Drouet holds her Masters and EDS in counseling and now focuses her work on coaching and consulting. You can find her practice online at simplifyatlanta.com, but she is also the aggregator behind the parenting Instagram account @simplify_parenting that collects some of the best parenting wisdom from around Christendom.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Ayuh, it's a wicked good time with author, illustrator and beloved Maine resident Chris Van Dusen. He and Holly will talk all things Maine license plate, memorable sunburns, kid mobsters, and how his books make the world shine.Kate DiCamillo, Mac Barnett, Brian Flocca, Peter Sagal, and Bob Marley (nope, no that one--the comedian) will all make appearances.So will Chris' older brother, Mr. Magee, who just so happens to be fresh off his camping spree.Chris' brand new book in the "If I Built" series is called If I Built a Town, plus (**BREAKING NEWS**) he'll release a brand new Mercy Watson Valentine's picture book with Kate DiCamillo just in time for Valentine's Day, available for Christmas purchasing in 2026. You can find Chris on Instagram.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Seasoned smart gal and entrepreneurial dynamo Abby O'Dell joins Holly to celebrate Unseriously's FIRST BIRTHDAY! They'll keep her aura up talking "the monsters," that eternal Aldi paint plate, Olivia Dean, trusting your creative instincts, and reminding those you love not to hit people.You can find Abby's art on Etsy at Scripted by Abby or follow her on Instagram here. Holly hears she's also on the TikTok with the rest of the youths of America.Music for Unseriously was composed by Adam Wright of ⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets Scripture to music as a tool for meditation and memorization.Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Hide your quarters--Lauren Washer is on Unseriously.It's a late-night Waffle House run with mom of 6, wife of Chris Pratt, author, women's ministry director, and all-around delightful person, Lauren Washer. She and Holly will talk about that durn door, the Washer family's incredible Waffle House ordering skills, and uninhibited fandom of others. Lauren will offer deep wisdom on loving others well in the church, at home, and how, "You can always make biscuits"--which Holly would like to go on record as stating should be the title of Lauren's next book. Amen.You can find Lauren's latest from P&R Publishing, What to Say When She Thinks Her Husband Isn't a Good Spiritual Leader here, and also find Lauren on Instagram, where she is one of Holly's favorite follows.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠.

Our first weekly episode of Unseriously is such a treat--join Holly as she asks author and theology professor Dr. Kelly Kapic about keeping his students on their toes, hears how he (regularly) gets schooled by his brilliant wife, and expresses her gratitude for not making the subtitle of his new book, "Hey, Holly! This one's for you!" This is also the episode where Collin Hansen is going to get name-dropped like three times.Kelly's devotional version of You're Only Human is called You Were Never Meant to Do It All, and was a 5-star read for Holly in 2025, easily making Kelly Kapic one of Holly's favorite Kellys.To the dismay of his many publishers, Kelly is not on the socials, but you can find him at his newly-agreed upon mandatory website, kellykapic.com.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Heads up parents: this one's NOT for little ears! In this special Christmas edition of Unseriously, Holly is joined by Kate Strickler of Naptime Kitchen, Abbey Wedgeworth, Caroline Saunders, Jose Sarduy, and Kate DiCamillo.Holly would like to thank her bug man, Eddie, for appearing in the promo video as Santa. Yes, Eddie obvs has a thriving Santa side hustle. Maybe one day he'll make a guest appearance on Unseriously and tell us some stories. Merry Christmas to you and yours! Thanks for joining in the fun this year and see you January 5th when Unseriously goes WEEKLY! Are you subscribed??

Holly's brother-in-law, Chase, has been called in on this one, folks. Princess Kate is in the building.Our carnival queen, two-time Newbery medalist Kate DiCamillo, joins Holly for a pinch-me-I'm-dreaming interview covering everything from Epcot Center to shredded wheat to inciting kids to troll Chris Van Dusen. There may be a quote-off. If you're friends with Holly in real life, she would like it noted that she arrived earlier than Kate to the interview, a fact which has now become one of the proudest moments of her life.The name you'll be shouting at this interview is BEN STEIN. Don't miss Sophie Blackall's Farmhouse for anyone in your life, not just littles, Amanda Cleary Eastep's Instagram is @book_leaves, and this is a Katherine Applegate book. Here's the Beverly Cleary nonfiction picture book they discuss.Read a Kate DiCamillo. Hug your people. Write back. Kate's magnificent title Because of Winn-Dixie celebrates 25 years in print this year, plus she's got a new addition to The Norendy Tales called Lost Evangeline, with Sophie Blackall illustrating.This is Holly's favorite Kate DiCamillo title, perfect to tuck into a stocking this year.Music for Unseriously was composed by Adam Wright of ⁠The Corner Room⁠, a ministry that sets Scripture to music as a tool for meditation and memorization. His latest Christmas project, ⁠Light Has Shone⁠, is a beautiful journey through five Advent passages that point us to Jesus, the true light of the world. You can listen on Spotify, Apple Music, or wherever you listen to music. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

You know him as the top dog editor at The Gospel Coalition, the host of the beloved Gospelbound podcast, and the author of countless sources of faithful scholarship, commentary, and criticism...but have you ever seen him as Rudy's stunt double? It's time to get Unseriously with Collin Hansen.Collin and Holly will discuss why Collin could not bring himself to move up the American Revolution, plus his next career taking over the @birminghamburgers Instagram. But don't worry, we cut out the ten minute riff of them impersonating every Birmingham radio personality they could remember since 2006.If you're Rebecca McLaughlin, Skyler Flowers, Glenn Wishnew, Nadya Williams, Molly Worthen, or Sarah Irving-Stonebraker--you're going to want to listen to this episode. If you're Andrew Wilson...ah, maybe not so much.Collin has a brand new (free) weekly newsletter subscription, Unseen Things--well worth your time--and his latest books, The Gospel After Christendom and Where Is God in a World with So Much Evil?, both available from TGC.Music for Unseriously was composed by Adam Wright of ⁠The Corner Room⁠, a ministry that sets Scripture to music as a tool for meditation and memorization. His latest Christmas project, ⁠Light Has Shone⁠, is a beautiful journey through five Advent passages that point us to Jesus, the true light of the world. You can listen on Spotify, Apple Music, or wherever you listen to music. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

On this episode of Unseriously it's Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz, the totally charming sisters behind the beloved Dwell Differently brand! Join Natalie, Vera, and Holly for tons of fun as they drink their chocolately Ovaltine and stand on some chairs to tell those BBHFL boys to step. it. up. Natalie and Vera are kindly offering a special promo code to listeners of Unseriously for a free month of their Dwell membership subscription--visit their website and use code GETSERIOUS to learn more, sign up, and get serious about memorizing Scripture.Natalie and Vera are the authors of the Dwell Differently book, plus tons of Bible study resources, and the hearts behind the Dwell Differently podcast.Music for Unseriously was composed by Adam Wright of ⁠The Corner Room⁠, a ministry that sets Scripture to music as a tool for meditation and memorization. His latest Christmas project, ⁠Light Has Shone⁠, is a beautiful journey through five Advent passages that point us to Jesus, the true light of the world. You can listen on Spotify, Apple Music, or wherever you listen to music. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

It's the man, the myth, the legend behind Unseriously's theme song: THE Adam Wright of Act of Congress and The Corner Room. Join Holly and Adam and see if you can keep a count on how many times Tony Hale makes an appearance. May the odds be ever in your favor.Hey, Tony, this is an official request for you to be a guest on Unseriously in 2026. Holly promises to keep Adam from delivering the invitation in person, though she can't promise to keep him from singing a little jingle about it.Adam and Holly will talk about the story behind that handknit smiling cigarette (thanks, Jess!), Adam's highly recognizable voice, their joint devotion to Theo of Golden, and of course, Tony Hale...one more time.You won't want to miss Adam's latest Christmas project, ⁠Light Has Shone⁠, which is a beautiful journey through five Advent passages that point us to Jesus, the true light of the world. You can listen on Spotify, Apple Music, or wherever you listen to music. Mackle family particular faves of Adam Wright songs:Nothing but the BloodCan I Get a WitnessOne Will BreakRevelation 22:20-21and if you're in a Christmasey mood: Here Comes the JoyMusic for Unseriously was indeed composed by Adam Wright of ⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠, a ministry that sets Scripture to music as a tool for meditation and memorization.Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Remember that time Dr. Irwyn Ince, aka Pastor Earth Wind, dropped that five thousand dollar comic book edition in the muddy gutter? Yeah, he does too.Join Holly and Irwyn to sleuth out the guilty party in the Ince family muffin caper, discuss the age when children are to be trusted with embarrassing pictures of their parents (spoiler: never), and get all the tips on keeping those CrossFit palms soft (spoiler: ACK).Irwyn is the author of The Beautiful Community: Unity, Diversity, and the Church at Its Best, and Hope Ain't a Hustle: Persevering by Faith in a Wearying World.Music for Unseriously was composed by Adam Wright of ⁠The Corner Room⁠, a ministry that sets Scripture to music as a tool for meditation and memorization. His latest Christmas project, ⁠Light Has Shone⁠, is a beautiful journey through five Advent passages that point us to Jesus, the true light of the world. You can listen on Spotify, Apple Music, or wherever you listen to music. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Laugh along with real life friends Holly and Laura, erm, Lauren as they discuss the perils of getting an oil change when LaLa's Selfie Machine pops up on the dash. Anna will make appearances. Also, Anna is notably better at parking the boat.Lauren is a two-time USA today bestselling author of southern women's fiction--clean, swoony books with likeable characters and beachy settings. Glory Road is Holly's favorite, but most people start with The Hideaway, especially because most people become a Lauren K. Denton completist.Find Lauren on Instagram, and sign up for her Substack on her website, laurenkdenton.com.Music for Unseriously was composed by Adam Wright of The Corner Room, a ministry that sets Scripture to music as a tool for meditation and memorization. His latest Christmas project, Light Has Shone, is a beautiful journey through five Advent passages that point us to Jesus, the true light of the world. You can listen on Spotify, Apple Music, or wherever you listen to music. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

If you're an FBI agent, police officer, or New York City neighborhood watch--you may want to avert your ears. For some reason, this season of Unseriously drew out all the illicit stories from our guests. It's not everyone, but there's a definite theme: crime. Hope you enjoy all this fun from Robin Preiss Glasser, Chris Ammen, Elizabeth Passarella, James Spann, and Jose Sarduy. See you in November for season 4!

This season of Unseriously kicks off with the man, the myth, the legend: James Spann. A 30+ year public servant keeping Alabama safe in severe weather, this is a different sort of interview for Alabama's favorite meme-able weatherman. James brings his passion for gas station food and throws down the culinary gauntlet for some of Birmingham's bougie to try and top that one gas station in Edwardsville off US 78. (Yes, you read that right.)He talks about his dedication to VBS, wisely teaches us not to miss the Adamsville Walmart, and tells us what will make his protective heart "go Butler County on you real quick."Basically, it's a priceless interview.You can find James on any television within 150 miles of an Alabama state line during a weather emergency, but during clear skies look for him on the brand new Alabama Weather Network, his collaborative netcast Weather Brains, or on his home station, ⁠ABC33/40⁠.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Swap your car for alternate side parking, pick up a Wendy's baked potato with chili, buckle up your thin patent leather belt and settle in for some nostalgic snickering with writer and funnywoman Elizabeth Passarella. Elizabeth and Holly will weigh the merits of nude nail polish, marvel at Anna Wintour's brilliance, and quote Almost Famous til they're sure everyone hears the train.Oh, and Elizabeth will also give some wise words for writers or those who want to be.Find Elizabeth on Instagram or behind the paywall at The New York Times or New York Magazine, and don't miss her two laugh til you cry memoirs, Good Apple and It Was an Ugly Couch Anyway.Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠, a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠.