The Boundless Podcast

In Season 2 Episode 2, we sit down with Andres Martinez, a globe-trotting foreman for the Doug O’Neill barn whose journey proves just how far horses can take you.Andres began with humble roots in Tijuana — long days in the barn, hands on horses, learning not from textbooks but from sweat, patience, and instinct. His dedication opened doors that many only dream of. Before long, the horses he cared for carried him to Churchill Downs, Japan, Dubai, and racetracks across the world.Andres lives the life most people only see from the stands. Early mornings. Missed parties. Sacrificed hobbies. All in service to the horses he loves — braiding manes with pride, grooming with care, always showing up with heart.He’s proof that passion can become purpose, and purpose can take you places you never imagined.This is a story of grit, devotion, and a life shaped by the animals who gave him wings.
A story that embodies Boundless.

En el segundo episodio de la temporada dos, nos acompañó Andrés Martínez, el capataz del establo de Doug O’Neill. Su historia demuestra lo lejos que te pueden llevar los cabellos. 
Andrés empezó con raíces muy humildes en Tijuana, Mexico: largas jornadas en el establo, siempre trabajando y cuidando los caballos, aprendiendo no de libros, sino de sudor, paciencia e instinto. Su dedicación le abrió puertas con las que solo unos sueñan. Antes de mucho, los caballos que cuidaba lo llevaron a Churchill Downs, Japón, Dubái y a hipódromos por todo el mundo.Andrés vive la vida que la mayoría solo ve desde las graderías. Madrugadas. Fiestas perdidas. Pasatiempos sacrificados. Todo al servicio de los caballos que ama — trenzando crines con orgullo, acicalando con esmero, presentándose siempre con el corazón en la mano.Es prueba de que la pasión puede convertirse en propósito, y que el propósito puede llevarte a lugares que nunca imaginaste.
Esta es una historia de coraje, entrega y una vida moldeada por los animales que le dieron alas.
Una historia que encarna Boundless.

Diane Crump: First to the GatePioneer. Competitor. History-maker. In this conversation, trailblazing jockey Diane Crump—the first woman to ride in a pari-mutuel race and later the first woman to ride in the Kentucky Derby—revisits the 1960s track where she was often the only woman on the backside, the boycotts that tried to keep her out, and the surreal walk to the paddock with an armed guard as the crowd swelled around her. Diane shares why she felt relief, not nerves when the doors finally opened, the grind of galloping 20 a morning while struggling for mounts, and the infamous Puerto Rico match race that turned into a literal tug-of-war at speed.Alongside host Dr. Ferrin Peterson—professional jockey and veterinarian—Diane reflects on faith, grit, and giving back (from answering kids’ letters to therapy-dog rounds), and offers clear-eyed advice for anyone chasing a hard dream: tune out the naysayers, find your people, and keep riding through the wire.Highlights• Breaking the barrier: from illegal on the backside at 14 to the Derby post parade• Boycotts, headlines, and showing up the next day—taped collarbone and all• Why cheap horses teach the toughest lessons• Fans, integrity, and riding hard for every placing• Faith, kindness, and the long arc of impactListen now and share with someone who needs a push to bet on themselves.

Season 2 of The Boundless Podcast goes beyond borders, beyond limits, and into the heart of purpose. From the barns of Kentucky to the hills of Kenya, from Tijuana to Dubai, we follow stories of grit, grace, and lives transformed by passion. (Diane Crump - First Woman to Ride in a Pari-Mutuel Race in the US and the First Woman to Ride in the Kentucky Derby, Kim Wickens - Criminal Defense Attorney and Author of Best Selling Book "Lexington: The Extraordinary Life and Turbulent Times of America's Legendary Racehorse", Bill Casner - Cowboy, Horseman, Dubai World Cup Winner and Philanthropist, Sandy Hatfield - Stallion Manager at Three Chimneys, Kayce Anderson - Executive Director of For the Good, Humanitarian and Ecologist, Andres Martinez - Globe-Trotting Foreman for Doug O'Neill) These are the journeys that turn ordinary lives into extraordinary legacies. Season 2 premieres November 6, 2025 On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.

Olympic silver medalist, current world leader, and American outdoor record holder in women’s pole vault — Sandi Morris brings a powerful close to Season 1 of The Boundless Podcast.In this episode, Sandi sits down with Dr. Ferrin Peterson, a professional jockey, veterinarian, and former pole vaulter herself. The two dive into the mindset it takes to stay at the top, bouncing back from injury, and what it really means to bet on yourself — again and again.Now training at the University of Louisville, Sandi has her eyes set on the world record and LA 2028. Her story is one of resilience, reinvention, and relentless pursuit of greatness.🎧 Tune in to hear from this decorated and determined pole vaulter — and get inspired to break your own limits.

This weeks episode is our first Boundless Student episode, tune in to hear one of the many paths into horse racing. From owning a horse as a kid, graduating from UK, creating her own unique job description, and eventually standing in the winner’s circle of the KY Oaks and Derby — Katelyn Morgan is a powerful reminder of the opportunities this industry provides!

Saddle up for an unforgettable ride with 3-time Hall of Famer Sandy Hawley—a legend who helped shape the golden age of horse racing. From the pivotal mentorship of Canada’s greatest horseman to blazing trails on tracks across the globe, Sandy shares the highs, the hurdles, and the heart behind his historic career.🌟 Hear what it was like riding beside icons and breaking barriers in Canada, the U.S., and beyond. This is one for the books.🔗 Tune in now — wherever you get your podcasts. #TheBoundlessPodcast #SandyHawley #HorseRacingLegends #HallOfFameRider #EquestrianExcellence #BehindTheReins

Jimmy Lovatt grew up in Australia with a deep curiosity for horses and turned that passion into a global pursuit. After traveling the world to immerse himself in the Thoroughbred breeding industry, he earned a coveted role as stallion manager at Godolphin—one of the most prestigious breeding farms on the planet. From flying alongside prized stallions to celebrating victories in the Kentucky Derby, Oaks, and Dubai World Cup, Jimmy’s seen the highs of elite racing up close. But what fuels him most isn’t the trophies—it’s mentoring the next generation of horsemen and watching young grooms take pride in their work. Because at the heart of it all is a bond that can’t be explained—only experienced.

In this episode of Boundless, we meet Bee Buck—a powerhouse behind the lens and a passionate storyteller of the racetrack. A freelance photographer who’s captured six Kentucky Derbies and two Breeders’ Cups by age 38, Bee brings a gritty, detailed eye to some of the sport’s most iconic moments. Beyond the camera, she also works in a pediatric unit, proving that dual careers are not only possible, but powerful. Bee shows us what horse racing feels like through her lens—and reminds aspiring photographers that there’s always “room on the rail.”

On this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with Dana Zook — retired jockey and current foreman for top trainer Mike Maker. Dana shares how he got his first ride for just a dollar with trainer Dr. Gregory, what it was like to beat some of the greatest jockeys of all time, and how his career evolved into managing racehorses at the highest level. An inspiring ride through grit, growth, and the relentless love of the game. 🐎✨ #TheBoundlessPodcast #FerrinPeterson #DanaZook #JockeyLife #HorseRacing #MikeMaker #FromSaddleToStable #BehindTheScenes #Equestrian #Horses #Jockey

🎙️ In this captivating episode of Boundless, Hall of Fame jockey Chris McCarron sits down with Dr. Ferrin Peterson to share the extraordinary journey behind one of horse racing’s most legendary careers. 🏆🐎From being inspired by his older brother Gregg McCarron to becoming one of the all-time greats himself, Chris opens up about the moments that shaped him. He reflects on the strength it took to race and win in honor of his mother just days after her passing—a deeply emotional victory that exemplified his resilience.Chris also dives into his historic Breeders’ Cup triumphs aboard Tiznow in 2000 and 2001, including the challenges of riding such a headstrong horse and the pride of winning during a time when America needed hope after 9/11.But the conversation doesn’t stop there—Chris shares his thoughts on how the racing style has evolved over the years. He discusses how the straight-legged, high-seated style some jockeys use today creates unnecessary drag and wind resistance, offering insight into the nuances of technique and efficiency that separate the good from the great.This episode is filled with heartfelt stories, expert advice, and behind-the-scenes perspectives that go far beyond the racetrack. Whether you’re a lifelong fan of racing or simply love hearing from those who have achieved greatness, this is one conversation you won’t want to miss.Timestamps00:09 Intro00:43 Gregg McCarron - Brother and Mentor03:20 Was it important to have the foundation as a hotwalker?04:20 First Race05:25 Beating Sandy Hawley’s record for most wins in a year06:09 Were you self taught or did you have a mentor?07:45 Were you a well rounded athlete? Family of athletes08:40 Born with balance10:10 Being in the horses center of gravity11:05 The importance of getting along with a horse12:07 Riding the Mid-Atlantic Circuit - Establishing trust with 5-10 minute warmup17:28 Tiznow has a mind of his own!23:25 “Don’t be surprised if you don’t see me hitting him coming down through the stretch.”26:17 The Comeback King - Fitness and Balance27:26 Winning the Travers Stakes in Honor of His Mother35:20 Developing your mindset to thrive under pressure?38:06 Aerodynamic Colors - Rhonda Allen 198740:20 The riding styles of Irad Ortiz Jr. & Tyler Gaffalione - “Straight legs down the stretch”43:53 One of the few jockeys who tactically adapted their riding style45:40 Southern California Jockey Colony - 12 Hall of Famers47:21 1980-81 Winning Streaks49:20 Competitive up until the last race50:35 Retirement - Injuries53:55 Came Home - Final Race55:18 Doing the math on horses mounted: over 50,000 legs over a horses back55:53 Advice to younger self59:14 Riding a horse well past the finish line1:00:25 What advice would you give to a young rider starting their career?1:03:33 Next Episode: Dana Zook1:04:12 AM Wager Ad#BoundlessPodcast #ChrisMcCarron #HorseRacingLegends #Tiznow #BreedersCup #RacingTechnique #EquestrianInspiration #JockeyLife #Jockey #Horse #Horses #Horseriding

After facing the unimaginable loss of both her sons—Will in a tragic car accident in Hawaii and her eldest to addiction—Susan Naylor turned her grief into a powerful force for good. Inspired by Will’s incredible heart for people, she founded the Will Smith Foundation, which has since supported 68 organizations dedicated to improving the lives of children in Texas, Hawaii, and Africa.Beyond her philanthropic work, Susan is also a passionate racehorse owner and breeder, with multiple stakes winners competing at the highest levels, including the Breeders’ Cup. In this deeply moving episode of Boundless, Susan shares how she transformed loss into legacy, the impact of the Foundation, and her love for the sport of kings.Join us for an inspiring conversation about resilience, purpose, and the boundless ways we can turn tragedy into triumph. 🎧✨Timestamps:00:38 How do people perceive you?02:02 “Everyone is jealous of what you’ve got, not how you got it.”03:17 Introduction to riding04:08 The Will Smith Foundation - Will and Charlies Deaths05:44 A turn of events and what they lead to08:39 Your biggest influence10:20 Generosity and fundraising - Athleticism11:10 At one of your lowest years you started giving back more12:35 Carrying on Legacy13:04 Surgery Clinic - Leeu Naylor Medical Building15:19 Leeu Origin16:18 Will notices the needs of African kids - The foundations work18:00 Why did you choose to put your dogs name on the surgery center?20:00 Making the chose to put a pet down and Ferrins experience as a Veterinarian22:37 Heart for horses24:33 Developing horsemanship25:18 Debbie Ward25:45 Ferrin traveling abroad in Veterinarian school to learn from the best and making it work financially28:59 “Andthewinneris” When a young horses lightbulb turns on31:37 Manny Wah33:24 Treating horses well and giving them breaks when they need it34:06 Where does the name Safari North come from?34:45 if you could go back and talk to your younger self what advice would you give?37:18 Next Episode38:29 AMWager #BoundlessPodcast #WillSmithFoundation #LegacyOfLove #Philanthropy #HorseRacing

With 8,803 wins, nine Triple Crown victories, and a reputation as one of the greatest jockeys in history, Pat Day’s career is nothing short of legendary.But to him, those accolades aren’t his greatest achievement. In this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with the Hall of Famer to uncover the mindset, faith, and resilience that shaped his journey. From the lessons horse racing taught him to the impact of mentorship and the choices that defined his path, Pat shares wisdom gained from a lifetime in the saddle.Tune in for an inspiring conversation with one of racing’s most patient and purposeful riders. 🎙🐎#TheBoundlessPodcast #PatDay #JockeyLife #HorseRacingTimestamps00:00 intro01:00 What first sparked your interest in horse racing?01:50 Riverside thoroughbred farm - Gene Cummings05:05 First Win on Forblunged07:16 What set you apart from other riders?09:18 How did you learn to manage the highs and lows?10:58 Leading rider in North America - Last possible races12:40 Party Lifestyle14:40 Coming to Christ - Jimmy Swagert20:20 Telling Sheila he’s a Christian25:13 Sheila Day - Marriage, Support on the track28:40 How did you keep your standard high?30:55 22% Win record means 78% loss record - bouncing back31:43 Emotional and Mental Challenges - Dangerous sport33:41 Racing several consecutive seconds in the Kentucky Derby before winning34:16 49er 1988 Derby37:30 Easy Goer 1989 Derby40:05 Before Christ I was an arrogant winner and a terrible loser41:43 Summer Squall42:45 Offered Unbridled and lost46:47 The Wall and the sound barrier throwing his horse off49:30 3 most meaningful races in his career58:10 Kentucky Derby with LIL E TEE59:13 Mentoring other jockeys - leading by example01:02:45 Turning down a stake mount for a young jockey with an opportunity01:05:00 What advice would you give to someone just starting their career?01:06:45 Ferrin is the hardest working jockey Pat Knows01:08:25 Next Episode: Susan Naylor

At 70 years old, Perry Ouzts isn’t just defying the odds—he’s rewriting them. With an incredible 53,419 races and 7,487 wins under his belt, Perry has been a force in the saddle since 1973. Known as the “Blue Collar Jockey,” he’s built his legacy on consistency, determination, and an unshakable love for the sport.In this episode of Boundless, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with Perry to talk about his 50+ year career, what keeps him riding after all these years, and the mindset that has made him one of the most enduring jockeys in history. From the toughest challenges to the greatest victories, Perry’s story is one of resilience, passion, and the relentless pursuit of doing what he loves.🎧 Tune in for an inspiring conversation with a true racing legend!Instagram: @FerrinpetersonTwitter: @Ferrinpetersonhttps://www.ferrinpeterson.com/the-boundless-podcast#BoundlessPodcast #PerryOuzts #BlueCollarJockey #RacingLegend #NeverTooOld #HorseRacingTimestamps:00:33 Current Stats00:49 What drew you to horse racing01:30 The “Fires Clan” - Earlie Fires02:40 First win03:47 The year 197304:25 Did you ever consider another career?05:50 Longevity as a jockey06:18 Advice for younger Perry - Finances07:58 Whats the longest time you’ve had to take off the track?09:25 How do you maintain your mental state during time off?09:40 Did anyone mentor you or inspire you in your career?10:42 You don’t claim foul, why is that?12:10 You breeze horses in the early morning and dead of winter still, why?13:16 Breezing for his wife - Toni Ouzts15:16 Tell me about your long, loyal relationship with Larry Smith17:16 Doing your job exceptionally well because you love to win18:00 Pat Day and losing the feeling of victory18:40 Do you have a goal for this final year of racing?19:20 You rode with many of the greats, what set them apart?20:45 The Blue Collar Jockey - I’d ride anything21:53 Tell me about your loyal relationship with agent James Fowler24:30 Do you have a pre-race routine?28:10 If you’re intimidated or scared the horse knows28:25 What parts of your life outside the track keep you balanced?28:55 You’ve worked hard in your career, did you enjoy the journey along the way?30:42 Facing Fear Pole Vaulting - Ferrin31:06 What advice would you give someone starting their career?32:42 “Ain’t gonna lose no sleep over it” He doesn’t care what people think of him34:45 Being leading rider puts a target on your back36:39 Where does the nickname “Iron Man” come from?38:39 Motorcycle crash in the AM, 9 races in the PM40:59 3 sick days in 50 years44:41 Winning a stakes race at 70 and the struggle of getting mounts as a 70 year old46:23 Horses keep you humble, you’re only as good as the horse you ride49:13 Getting the bug back at 7050:00 Making weight and having the same diet all 50 years52:00 Riding every horse to win regardless of the talent52:39 A moment form our next episode with Pat Day53:13 AMWager Sponsorship

From breaking barriers as the first female jockey to ride in the Preakness to becoming a respected figure in horse racing, Patricia Cooksey’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. 🏇✨ In this episode, professional jockey Ferrin Peterson sits down with Cooksey to discuss her biggest challenges, Kentucky Derby experience, and the mindset that set her apart on the track. Now in a leadership role at the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission , she shares wisdom for the next generation and reflects on the greatest gifts racing has given her.Tune in for an inspiring conversation about resilience, passion, and the boundless possibilities in the sport we love! 🎧This is a must-watch episode for horse racing fans and sports enthusiasts alike! Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more inspiring interviews. 📌 Follow Ferrin Peterson for more updates: [⁠www.instagram.com/ferrin_peterson⁠] 🎥 Subscribe for exclusive interviews & racing content: [⁠www.youtube.com/@ferrinpetersonKY⁠]⁠Ferrinpeterson.com⁠#BoundlessPodcast #PatriciaCooksey #WomenInRacing #JockeyLife #BreakingBarriersTimestamps:00:00 Intro00:36 What drew you to horse racing?01:45 Early Career Challenges03:10 Riding under a more masculine name05:37 Still not many female riders today06:51 Taken off horses because of gender07:30 Strength vs Finesses08:19 Wellness and Fitness11:39 Jockey colony in her prime12:10 Female jockey quarters14:26 Pat Day15:36 Riding style16:25 Becoming one with a horse16:59 Learning different horses18:00 She’d ride anything18:44 Horses you dont get along with19:45 Career sacrifices20:41 Pre-race routine22:07 Protected during fall23:35 Venezia Award25:10 Taking care of the grooms and trainers26:34 Hollywood Prevue Chris McCaron22:59 2nd female in Kentucky Debry28:19 Don Brumfield - The Wall30:40 Advice for people starting their career31:38 Kentucky horse racing commission33:47 Whip rules, helmets and vests36:07 what has horse racing taught you about yourself37:15 Horse provide opportunity38:03 Joy in life39:08 Horse racing industry in Kentucky

Hall of Fame jockey Steve Cauthen sits down with jockey and veterinarian Ferrin Peterson for an unforgettable interview about his legendary career in horse racing. From winning the U.S. Triple Crown at just 18 years old to making history as the only jockey to win both the Kentucky Derby and Epsom Derby, Steve shares the highs and challenges of his journey.Discover how Steve clinched the English Fillies Triple Crown, earned the title of Sports Illustrated's 'Sportsman of the Year' over icons Muhammad Ali and Reggie Jackson, and became one of the most celebrated athletes in horse racing history.This is a must-watch episode for horse racing fans and sports enthusiasts alike! Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more inspiring interviews.📌 Follow Ferrin Peterson for more updates: [www.instagram.com/ferrin_peterson]🎥 Subscribe for exclusive interviews & racing content: [www.youtube.com/@ferrinpetersonKY]Ferrinpeterson.comTimestamps:0:00:00:00 Intro0:00:53:18 Introduction to horse racing - Tex Cauthen0:06:55:00 Inspiration - Braulio Baeza0:09:11:22 Jockey License - Keene Daingerfield0:10:44:16 Early Career - First Races0:14:19:19 Losing the bug allowance - Triple Crown Mount0:14:47:00 First Serious Injury - 487 wins in 1 year0:15:50:00 Affirmed origin0:19:35:12 Triple Crown mount Affirmed0:20:30:00 Affirmed Kentucky Derby Win0:21:37:08 Louis and Patrice Wolfson - Affirmed owners0:22:17:06 Affirmed & Alydar Preakness0:23:31:01 Affirmed Belmont0:25:20:17 English Fillies Triple Crown - Oh So Sharp0:28:30:00 Riding Approach - "Just another race"0:29:28:20 Not your typical teenage success story0:30:34:15 The harder you work the luckier you get0:32:24:12 "The Kid" - Agent: Lenny Goodman0:34:14:23 Beating Muhhamad Ali and Reggie Jackson for Sports Illustrated Sportsman of The Year0:37:28:07 Hot in the press: 110 Race losing streak0:42:42:04 Riding in Europe: Robert Sangster0:44:53:11 Riding Style: Connection to hands and thinking like a horse0:47:08:12 Horse Connection0:50:03:17 Flow State with a horse0:52:01:01 Affirmed personality: Horses know when they win0:52:53:23 US Riding Style in Europe0:54:53:23 Life after retirement0:56:59:14 Advice to younger self0:58:56:15 Advice for someone starting their career1:00:58:07 Next Episode: Patti Cooksey#SteveCauthen #FerrinPeterson #HorseRacing #TripleCrown #KentuckyDerby #EpsomDerby #SportsmanOfTheYear #Sportsillustrated

In this episode, Ferrin sits down with Bill Casner to trace an incredible life built on horses—from a 15-year-old hustling for $1 gallops at Sunland Park to the highest levels of Thoroughbred racing.Bill shares the gritty early days on the backside, a humbling attempt at riding races that gave him lifelong respect for jockeys, and how the racetrack became a “magical” place that shaped his whole future. At the heart of the conversation is legacy: the devastating loss of his daughter Karri, and the extraordinary story of Well Armed—the colt born on her birthday the following year—who overcame major injuries and became a Dubai World Cup champion through an unforgettable rehab journey.It’s a powerful look at ambition, heartbreak, resilience, and how horses can carry us through everything—while inspiring Bill’s mission to give back through scholarships and opportunities for racetrack and farm families.