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We Too Are One: Making a world more inclusive for AuDHD people.
We Too Are One: Making a world more inclusive for AuDHD people.
Author: Martin Gale
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We Too Are One is a podcast that celebrates the power of difference and explores how individuals with Autism and/or ADHD can thrive—together and in business.
Through inspiring conversations with neurodivergent professionals, entrepreneurs, and the allies who champion inclusivity, we explore the unique challenges and extraordinary strengths that come with thinking differently.
Whether you’re discovering how to embrace your own neurodivergent identity or striving to build a workplace where everyone’s talents shine, We Too Are One offers hope, connection, and practical insights to turn difference into strength.
We Too Are One is created and produced in partnership with AuDHD UK, whose mission is to end autism and ADHD-related suicides in the UK. They help fund adult autism and ADHD assessments, therapy for late-diagnosed AuDHDers, and campaign for earlier diagnosis and support.
Find out more about AuDHD UK and how you can get involved at https://www.audhduk.org.
Through inspiring conversations with neurodivergent professionals, entrepreneurs, and the allies who champion inclusivity, we explore the unique challenges and extraordinary strengths that come with thinking differently.
Whether you’re discovering how to embrace your own neurodivergent identity or striving to build a workplace where everyone’s talents shine, We Too Are One offers hope, connection, and practical insights to turn difference into strength.
We Too Are One is created and produced in partnership with AuDHD UK, whose mission is to end autism and ADHD-related suicides in the UK. They help fund adult autism and ADHD assessments, therapy for late-diagnosed AuDHDers, and campaign for earlier diagnosis and support.
Find out more about AuDHD UK and how you can get involved at https://www.audhduk.org.
16 Episodes
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In this episode, we explore the relationship between neurodivergence and faith — and what religion can teach us about identity, belonging, and inclusion.
My guest is Reverend Dr Allison Fenton, an Anglican priest, theologian, and educator. Allison lives with dyslexia and ADHD, and speaks openly about how her neurodivergence has shaped her faith, her ministry, and her understanding of herself. This is one of the first times she has spoken publicly about her ADHD.
While the conversation is rooted in the Church of England, the themes we explore extend far beyond any single faith tradition. We talk about belonging, difference, community, and how institutions — religious or otherwise — can better embrace neurodivergent ways of being.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
How neurodivergence intersects with faith, identity, and spirituality.
Why traditional ideas of silence, stillness, and worship don’t work for everyone.
The role of shame — and how diagnosis can bring kindness and self-understanding.
What churches and faith communities can learn from neurodivergent people.
Why difference isn’t a problem to solve, but something communities need in order to flourish.
The powerful idea of belonging without masking.
To find out more about Allison’s work, visit her profile at Queen’s Foundation:
https://www.queens.ac.uk/about-us/our-people/revd-dr-allison-fenton/ 🌐
For feedback, suggestions or to get in touch, please email hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
We’re continuing our exploration of the neurodivergent experience from all angles, and in this episode we turn to a perspective that sits right at the centre of many young people’s lives: education.
My guest is Laura Hamson, School Improvement Manager for SEND and Inclusion at Hampshire County Council. Laura has oversight of special schools, resource provisions and inclusive practice across Hampshire — giving her a unique, whole-system view of what makes the difference for neurodivergent children in today’s classrooms.
If you’ve listened to earlier episodes with Grant and Jane, you’ll know we’ve been building a rounded picture of the challenges families face. Laura brings another crucial part of that picture: how schools understand neurodivergence, how they support children, and what really helps young people feel they belong.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
The biggest factors that help neurodivergent children thrive in school.
How “ordinarily available provision” can transform inclusion for whole classes.
The importance of communication between schools and parents.
How attitudes towards different learning needs have changed over the decades.
What the corporate world can learn from the education sector about inclusion.
To find out more about the work Laura mentions:
Hampshire Local Offer — https://fish.hants.gov.uk/kb5/hampshire/directory/localoffer.page
Hampshire Transforming SEND Programme — https://hias-moodle.mylearningapp.com/ (login required for some materials)
For feedback, suggestions or to get in touch, please email https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
This episode explores the fascinating connection between neurodivergence and club culture — and asks why so many neurodivergent people are drawn to dance music and the dancefloor.
My guest is Harold Heath — DJ, writer and producer — who’s written extensively about this very topic in publications including DJ Magazine. Harold has spent decades in electronic music, both behind the decks and behind the words, and his perspective on what draws neurodivergent people to this world is as thoughtful as it is relatable.
If you’ve ever wondered why the club feels like home, or why DJing itself seems to speak to certain neurotypes, this conversation will hit close to heart.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
The shared experiences between DJs and neurodivergent thinkers.
Why sensory-rich club environments can sometimes feel calming, not overwhelming.
How dopamine, predictability and surprise all play a role in our love of dance music.
The roots of club culture as a space for belonging and inclusion.
What Harold’s own journey through ADHD and autism has taught him about creativity, resilience and self-understanding.
Find out more about Harold on his Linktree 📸
The "explicit" mark is on this episode because there is the occasional swear word, so be mindful when listening 🙏🏻
For feedback, suggestions or to get in touch, please email https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
This episode focuses on something I’m contacted about more than almost anything else — the experience of being a parent whose child is going through the ADHD diagnosis journey.
My guest is Grant Wilson, a father whose openness, humility and courage in sharing his family’s story has touched me deeply. Grant and I first got in touch when a friend shared some of my early ADHD reels and podcasts with him, and he reached out to say they’d helped him and his son. That simple act of encouragement, along with messages from others like him, played a huge part in giving me the confidence to take the leap from short videos to podcasting. Having him on the show now feels like a full-circle moment.
Grant speaks with honesty about what it was like when the school first suggested his son might have ADHD, how he and his wife navigated the emotional rollercoaster that followed, and the moment they realised just how much their son had been struggling beneath the surface. It’s a story of love, learning and transformation that every parent on this path will recognise.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
The challenges parents face when navigating the ADHD diagnosis system in the UK.
The emotional journey of coming to terms with a child’s diagnosis.
How small, practical accommodations can make a big difference day to day.
What happens when understanding leads to empathy — and healing for the whole family.
Why Grant’s experience inspired him to encourage others to share their own stories.
For feedback, suggestions or to get in touch, please email https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
In this episode, we’re talking about what it really means to build inclusive communities — not just in theory, but in practice.
My guest is Paul Ginsberg, an ADHD coach and long-time advocate for inclusion. Paul is highly active in the vast Salesforce ecosystem — which, if you’re not from a tech background, is a global technology company best known for its cloud software that helps organisations manage customer relationships. Paul has been right at the heart of making those spaces genuinely welcoming and inclusive, and whilst the technology industry brought us together, our discussion is much broader.
Inclusivity for neurodivergent people is especially complex, because unlike other differences, society doesn’t yet have a clear frame for what it looks like.
In our conversation, Paul and I explore what it takes to create spaces — in workplaces and beyond — where people feel safe, seen and able to be themselves.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
What true inclusion means when neurodivergence is part of the picture.
The lessons from community-building that can help reshape corporate culture.
How Paul’s own ADHD, dyspraxia and autism shape his understanding of belonging.
Why labels can be helpful as search terms, but not as identities.
Practical ways leaders can make workplaces more accessible for neurodivergent people.
To find out more about Paul’s work, visit Naturally Paul Coaching 🌐
For feedback, suggestions or to get in touch, please email https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
We’re only on the second episode of the new series, and already we’re turning to one of the questions I’m contacted about most often: the ADHD diagnosis journey for children.
My guest is Jane Lambert, CEO of the Makewell Clinic in Milton Keynes. Jane is a nurse by background, an adoptive parent of three daughters with neurodivergent needs, and the driving force behind Makewell — a clinic she founded to be the change she wanted to see in the world. Her mission is not just to provide assessments, but to create a calming, supportive environment and to advocate for families navigating what can be a long and exhausting path.
If you’re a parent currently facing this process, or you want to better understand what families go through, Jane’s story will really speak to you.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
The reality of navigating the UK system for children’s ADHD diagnosis.
Why even private clinics are struggling to meet demand.
How Jane built Makewell to do things differently and support families more holistically.
The practical advice Jane gives parents who are waiting for an assessment.
The role of advocacy, community, and peer support alongside clinical services.
To find out more about Jane’s work, visit the Makewell Clinic 🌐
For feedback, suggestions or to get in touch, please email https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
We’re back with a brand new series, and what better way to start than with a conversation that goes right to the heart of everyday life: how neurodivergence affects our relationships.
I’m joined by Karen Doherty, a couples therapist specialising in relationships where neurodiversity is present. Karen trained at the Tavistock and has spent more than a decade helping couples navigate the unique challenges and strengths that come with ADHD, autism and other forms of neurodivergence. She’s one of the most passionate people I’ve spoken to on this subject, and her warmth, honesty and energy shine through in this interview.
This is a must-listen for anyone navigating ADHD, autism or neurodivergence in their relationship.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
The most common patterns Karen sees in neurodivergent relationships.
Why the post-diagnosis period can be so turbulent for couples.
How neurodivergence affects friendships as well as romantic partnerships.
Practical strategies for communication and building trust.
The moments of “aha” that can transform how couples see each other.
To find out more about Karen’s work, visit Karen Doherty Coaching 🌐
For feedback, suggestions or to get in touch, please email https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
Just to make sure you didn't think we'd forgotten you, or the podcast, today's show is just a quick update on what we've been up to and what's in the pipeline, including our new seasonal structure which you may have spotted in the titles...
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
We're back, and this time we're speaking with Zurich UK's Sarah Morgan about their pioneering private healthcare benefit, which enables employees and their family members to access formal neurodiversity diagnoses through the company’s private healthcare scheme. As well as offering valuable insights into neurodivergence more broadly, this episode will be of particular interest to HR professionals considering the development of their own neurodiversity policies.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
Why Zurich UK are adding this benefit to their scheme.
What the benefit provides to their employees and families.
The importance of embracing neurodiversity in the workplace.
Things HR professionals should consider when rolling out such a benefit.
How Sarah's own experiences have shaped her perspective on neurodiversity.
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
In this show we explore the emerging role of the ADHD coach, and in particular what makes them tick, and how they see themselves helping their clients.
Caroline Carrier is an ADHD coach with a wonderfully eclectic professional background now working with ADHDers to help them not only function but thrive through better insights into their neurodiversity.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
How her own neurodiversity shaped her career.
The common themes she has seen in her work.
What people should look for when searching for an ADHD coach.
Why ADHDers often have impossibly high standards.
The similarities and differences between coaching young people and adults.
References:
Caroline's website: https://www.cccadhd.com/
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
This week, we focus on the important role of the evangelist in the progression of the neurodiversity cause.
We’re joined by Dr. Ken Bishop, a government strategist and neurodiversity advocate working at the Northern Ireland Executive. Ken has spent over two decades shaping policy, advising on economic development, and leading change management initiatives across Europe. But his passion for inclusion is also deeply personal—he’s been a lifelong champion for neurodivergent talent, informed by his own lived experience with dyslexia.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
How his own journey with dyslexia shaped his worldview and approach to life and work.
Why Northern Ireland in particular provides such a fertile ground for progress in inclusivity for neurodiversity.
What the public sector can learn from the private sector.
The challenges as well as the rewards of being an advocate for neurodivergency.
Examples of how to catalyse action on inclusivity in large organisations.
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
This week we're extremely fortunate to be joined by the eminent psychiatrist, author, AuDHD campaigner and TEDx speaker Dr Khurram Saadiq. This episode is a highly personal one for me, since not only is Dr Saadiq highly respected in his field, he is also the psychiatrist who diagnosed me with ADHD.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
His own journey with AuDHD, including his special interests growing up.
How gaming and social media fit into the world of neurodivergence.
How Autism and ADHD exist together and as separate conditions.
The notion of neurodiversity being a "superhuman" condition.
His perspectives on the current system, and what he believes could be improved.
Links promised during the episode:
His TEDx talk The Superhumans That Exist Amongst Us: https://www.ted.com/talks/khurram_sadiq_the_superhumans_that_exist_amongst_us
His forthcoming book Explaining AuDHD: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Explaining-AuDHD-Guide-Autism-ADHD/dp/1804369489
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
In this episode, we meet Kit Birks, a remarkable mental health activist and poet who has adopted making the world a better place for people with mental health challenges as her mission in life. As well as speaking openly and with with raw emotion via social media and her poetry, this year she is undertaking an incredible 8,500km trek, Stride Beyond Silence, raising funds for both CALM and AuDHD UK.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
Her motivation for improving the lives of people with mental health challenges.
How from recovery she discovered poetry as her creative outlet.
How her passion for challenge and adventure has led her to undertake a record-breaking fundraiser.
Misconceptions about both mental health and addiction.
How social media can still be a force for good.
Links promised during the episode:
Kit's JustGiving page for her Stride Beyond Silence: https://www.justgiving.com/page/stridebeyondsilence
Kit's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kitbirks
Kit's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kitbirks
CALM: https://www.thecalmzone.net/
Note that this episode contains references to both suicide and suicidal ideation. If you or someone you care about is affected by these topics, please know that support is available via The Samaritans, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Please see https://www.samaritans.org for more details.
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
In this episode of We Too Are One, we meet Morra Aarons-Mele, author of The Anxious Achiever and host of the acclaimed podcast of the same name. Morra shares her journey of navigating anxiety in high-pressure environments, how she turned her own struggles into a powerful framework for success, and why she believes transparency about mental health is key to a more inclusive workplace. She also gives an insight into her next work, a book on neurodivergence for which she is currently conducting research which listeners are invited to take part in.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
The overlap of neurodivergence and anxiety.
The importance managers of neurodivergent people play in the workplace.
The impact of Gen Z's greater awareness and expectations regarding mental health and well-being on organisational culture.
The challenges of getting senior leaders to openly discuss their anxiety.
The importance of recognising and breaking habitual anxious thoughts and behaviours.
Links promised during the episode:
The Anxious Achiever book: https://morraam.com/books
The Anxious Achiever podcast: https://morraam.com/podcast
Morra's research survey for her new book: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FRTL3CR
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
How can Native American philosophy help us navigate our emotions?
In this episode, we meet Adam Banks, a seasoned boardroom leader turned advisor who has worked at the highest levels of global business. Adam shares his remarkable career journey, his late discovery of his own autism, and his perspective as a parent to an autistic daughter, Georgina, the founder of AuDHD UK.
Dense with insights, this episode is a must-listen for neurodivergent people forging their own paths in the working world as well as business leaders pondering how they can do more for their neurodivergent team members.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
How he turned an unorthodox education to his advantage.
How important "adult to adult" conversations are for people to do their best work.
How Native American philosophy profoundly changed his approach to decision-making.
How seemingly diverse teams can still become normalised without diverse experiences.
Why corporate approaches that seek to drive difference out of their businesses fail.
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎
In our first episode of We Too Are One, we meet Georgina Banks, founder and CEO of AuDHD UK. Georgina shares her journey of founding the charity, her experiences as a late-diagnosed AuDHDer exploring her identity, and her passion for creating a more inclusive world for AuDHD people. She also discusses her ambitious mission to end autism and ADHD-related suicides in the UK.
In this episode, we cover topics including:
Georgina's own journey towards diagnosis with Autism and ADHD.
Her motivation for founding AuDHD UK as her first step into working life.
How her AuDHD has influenced her professional and recreational pursuits.
What we can learn from history about inclusivity.
Her hopes and goals for AuDHD UK, and how people can help.
Note that this episode contains references to both suicide and suicidal ideation. If you or someone you care about is affected by these topics, please know that support is available via The Samaritans, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Please see https://www.samaritans.org for more details.
For feedback, suggestions or to otherwise get in touch, please do drop an email to us via hello@wetooareonepodcast.com ✍🏻
To find out more about AUDHD UK, make a donation or get involved, please visit https://www.wetooareonepodcast.com/ 🌎



