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Author: Aaron Busby, James Cole & Martin Esquer

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Join Busby, J.C. & Martin as they discuss music, sports, pop culture & try to make logical sense of an illogical world.
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With the final episode of 2025 on deck, the iLLogical gang rolls out the red carpet of chaos to talk about Michigan firing former football head coach, Sherrone Moore, after learning of an inappropriate relationship with a staffer (5:24), as well as John Cena's legacy now that his retirement from the WWE is in effect (20:29).Later, the crew discuss how Brandon Aiyuk and the 49ers appear headed toward a messy breakup (28:26). Nas and DJ Premier's new album, 'Light-Years', sparks heated debates about classic boom bap and modern soundscapes (32:21), Christopher Nolan comes to the defense of Ryan Coogler's film, 'Sinners', (42:54), the 7th Annual iLLys Awards make their triumphant return (46:11), and more.From streaming soundscapes to sports suspense and silver screen takes, this episode blends every genre into one. Consider this your end of the year highlight reel.👉 Available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your pods.📲 Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for clips, chaos, and classic content.
The iLLogical gang returns with a stream of thoughts on a week dominated by digital disruption:After recapping the week (1:24), the crew dives into the big blockbuster news of Netflix acquiring of Warner Bros. (8:02), a mega-merger that reshuffles the entire content landscape. They break down what it means for subscribers, how it affects streaming bundles, and why this deal could change the binge-watching game for good.Next up, they react to "Sean Combs: The Reckoning" doc hitting number one on Netflix (22:49), produced by 50 Cent, and whether anything new came to light following HBO’s earlier exposé. They also check in on Power: Force’s mid-season run (39:13) and Power: Origins being fully cast and filming (41:43), while highlighting the rise of cinematic storytelling across platforms.Then it’s onto Hip-Hop news, including The Game's newest addition to DJ Drama’s Gangsta Grillz series, 'Every Movie Needs a Trailer' (43:58), Big K.R.I.T.’s return with 'Cadalee Biarritz' (55:36), and a reflection on why Hip-Hop storytelling is thriving off the charts even if it’s not topping them.On the music side, the conversation shifts to DSP year-end summaries (58:55), and the guys debating what their “For You” pages really say about their listening habits.Social media gets spooky with X’s new location-sharing update (1:06:36), drawing privacy concerns and laughs over how petty tech can get. The guys call out the clowns behind the screen before pivoting to sports.They wrap with Lane Kiffin’s shocking jump to LSU (1:08:22), CP3 getting dismissed by the Clippers (1:12:32), and quiet signs that Milwaukee’s window may be closing with Giannis (1:16:49).This episode is petty, powerful, and packed with more content than your watchlist. Tap in before the algorithm forgets you.👉 Available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your pods.📱 Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for weekly quotes, clips, and chaos.
The iLLogical gang returns from Thanksgiving with full bellies and even fuller opinions:The guys recap their holiday with loved ones (1:32), how important the macaroni and cheese is to the dinner table (7:16), and San Jose catching momentum with a major concert announcement (13:20).Then it’s time to talk sports (17:55), starting with the Thanksgiving Day and Black Friday football games (17:55) as they break down the Packers’ victory over the Lions (18:20), debate whether the Cowboys are for real or if the Chiefs are in trouble (21:53), how the 'Madden Cast' was the only memorable aspect of Bengals vs. Ravens (25:17), ask if the Bears are true contenders after beating the Eagles (26:40), examine the playoff picture in the AFC/NFC race with one month left in the season (29:18), before closing out with basketball by again, thanking the Dallas Mavericks community on behalf of Lakers fans (39:40).From there, the conversation shifts to culture, with The Bigger Picture podcast rebranding (45:24), the need for more Hip-Hop discourse platforms (51:33), why Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar arguments are exhausted (53:24), and how we can all benefit from more balance and less bias, the Valley Fair Mall shooting (59:22) in San Jose, The Game claiming how influential in Kendrick Lamar's career he was (1:02:26) and more.It’s all here: spicy takes, real-life reflections, and enough side-eye to go with your secret stashes of mac and cheese. This is your post-holiday rewind, only on The iLLogical Sense Podcast.👉 Tap in on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your pods.📱 Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for weekly clips, quotes, and chaos.
Busby and Marteen hold it down this week as they dive into a mix of personal reflections, musical milestones, and football chaos.The show kicks off with a recap of how the week went before the crew celebrates the 1-year anniversary of GNX (00:03:35). They look back on the day it dropped, break down the project with a full track-by-track review, and discuss the aftermath that followed its release.Next, they honor another major milestone—the 15-year anniversary of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (00:26:45). Marteen opens up about his issues with the album while Busby gives his own perspective on the modern classic.From there, it’s all football. The guys assess the 49ers’ season so far (00:35:34), noting the offense heating back up while the defense struggles to keep pace. They move into NFL talk from around the league (00:37:24) before breaking down the developing Brandon Aiyuk situation (00:42:20).As always, don’t forget to like, comment, subscribe, and share the pod.
As the final stretch of the year approaches, the iLLogical gang returns in time to remind everybody that while the timeline doesn't wait, it also never forgets. But first, J.C. recaps how his planned extended break went from relaxed reset to bed-ridden survival (1:22), Busby slides in celebrating another trip around the sun (12:24), and Martin clocks in from the work trenches (14:19).From there, the crew dives into the Grammy's Best Rap Album nominations (14:50), breaking down the narratives, upsets, and why the whole “Kendrick fatigue” thing doesn’t hold water (18:56). The conversation turns up even more when the New Rory & Mal crew becomes a case study in why your words online always come with consequences, especially when you run from accountability (35:52).Later topics include OutKast getting their overdue flowers with a Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction (52:24), the Michael Jackson biopic setting new trailer records while shaking up timelines (54:13), Westside Gunn and WWE beefing out of nowhere (55:53), the Cash Money VERZUZ No Limit showdown bringing that Y2K-level nostalgia (59:57), honoring the life and impact of Coach John Beam after his tragic passing (1:06:07), and more.Another wired, witty, and wildly unpredictable ride in this timeline-bendin’, discourse-spinnin’, tweet-scorchin’ edition of The iLLogical Sense Podcast.👉 Subscribe on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your pods.📱 Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for clips, updates, and weekly chaos.
Episode 326: "It's GNX!"

Episode 326: "It's GNX!"

2025-11-1301:22:18

Busby and Marteen hold it down while JC is out sick this week, diving into movies, music, sports, and a packed slate of news. ⸻ 🎬 Pop Culture & Entertainment Busby at the Movies (00:02:22) Busby shares his thoughts on the 40th Anniversary of Back to the Future, reflecting on its legacy and timeless appeal. Michael Jackson Biopic Trailer (00:03:18) The gang reacts to the first look at the upcoming Michael Jackson biopic — early impressions, casting choices, and expectations.⸻ 🗳️ Politics & Current Events Special Elections (00:08:31) Discussion about recent election results and what they mean moving forward. Government Remains Shut Down (00:10:34) The hosts analyze the ongoing shutdown and its ripple effects across the country.⸻ 🏟️ Sports & Music Business Sports Talk (00:22:18) The Dodgers win the World Series, sparking celebration (sort of) and debate. Drake’s Legal Drama Continues (00:24:28) Busby breaks down Drake’s appeal process, new lawsuits, and how his name surfaced in both the Stake class action and Spotify botting lawsuit—with Drake being the only artist named as an example.⸻ 🎤 Hip-Hop & Industry News Cam’ron Sues J. Cole (00:36:04) Unexpected legal news from the rap world—Cam’ron takes Cole to court. Hip-Hop Falls Off Billboard’s Top 40 (00:39:22) The hosts discuss the shocking moment when hip-hop lost its usual stronghold on the charts. Marteen’s Question: “When did it become criteria for artists to make music about themselves?” (00:47:40) A deep dive into artistry, authenticity, and what defines “real” music in today’s industry.⸻ 🏆 Awards & Sports Wrap-Up Grammy Nominations Breakdown (00:51:45) Busby and Marteen reviews this year’s Grammy nominees — who got snubbed, who surprised, and predictions for big wins. NFL Talk (01:08:29) From injuries plaguing the 49ers to a look around the league, the show closes with heartfelt respect for the late Marshawn Kneeland.⸻ 📲 Stay Connected Follow The iLLogical Sense Podcast on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube — and don’t forget to like, comment, subscribe, and share!
With the entire crew back in the building after an extended recess, the iLLogical gang reconvenes court with a docket full of industry drama, lyrical jabs, and cultural chaos so thick, it might need its own discovery phase.Opening statements begin with a cross-examination of A.I., as the crew revisits earlier takes and debates whether artificial intelligence is now helping… or just pleading the fifth (4:44). Then it’s time for reflection as they pay tribute to the late, great D’Angelo, honoring the legacy of a soul legend (13:20).Next, it’s trial by playback as Drake’s defamation lawsuit against Kendrick Lamar is officially dismissed (22:52). The crew breaks down the judge’s ruling, revisits J.C.’s accurate case brief from Episode 320, and asks the bigger question: Can you really sue someone for cooking you on wax?The docket only gets deeper:Cardi B vs. Nicki Minaj goes juvenile with ruthless social media jabs (48:56)Marc Lamont Hill vs. Queenzflip sparks a war of words on the Joe Budden Podcast (50:20)Taylor Swift’s second-week sales collapse leads to conspiracies about her rollout strategy (1:06:19)Diddy’s sentencing finally lands, bringing some closure to a dark saga (1:11:54)Mark Sanchez fumbles the bar — literally — during a violent public incident (1:16:07)NFL parity or mediocrity? No dominant team yet… unless you’re the Jets (1:19:57)Netflix’s Starting Five Season 2 brings heat, but KD comes across as unlikeable (1:35:00)All that and more slanderous soliloquies and audio affidavits in this gavel-droppin’, ego-poppin’, case-closin’ edition of The iLLogical Sense Podcast.👉 Subscribe on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.🎧 Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates and evidence exhibits.
Marteen and Busby hold it down with another packed episode, starting with a look at the Sleeping on Gems Festival in San Jose, featuring DJ Lex, Sango, Thuy, and a headlining performance by Larry June (02:11). The two reflect on whether Larry June’s presence could help turn the corner for San Jose as a hub for hip-hop shows (08:11).From there, Marteen opens up about his hectic week, clouded—literally—by a haze of smoke (10:00), while Busby shares his own updates, including finally regaining access to his Instagram account (12:00). The conversation shifts to Busby’s latest movie outing (HIM) (13:53), before the duo dives into a football check-in: their assessment of the 49ers’ season so far, plus a rundown of NFL news (21:28).The “news news” segment gets even spicier with reactions to the Charlie Kirk situation (39:00), Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension (46:10), and D4vid’s criminal story (47:45). They also cover the Clipse’s eye-popping performance at the Vatican (51:20), Jay Electronica’s surprise drop (52:00), Cardi B’s “Am I The Drama” (53:20), and the never-ending leaks of Drake’s music (56:55). Busby rounds things out with his thoughts on the Kanye documentary (01:02:05) and some wrestling updates (01:08:20).Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates!
Sidebar Series #3

Sidebar Series #3

2025-09-2957:44

In this episode, Busby and Marteen kick things off with their usual banter before Busby shares a story about being recognized at the recent Clipse concert. From there, the duo dives into Bas’ viral tweet, where he called Drake one of the greatest writers of our generation, sparking a larger conversation about Drake’s omnipresence in music. Busby then breaks down the Stans documentary, leading into a discussion about albums that start off strong but lose steam toward the end. The two also touch on a certain situation involving a certain individual, leaving things just vague enough to keep listeners curious. Shifting gears, NFL talk takes center stage as Busby and Marteen try to guess who might headline the next Super Bowl halftime show based on past performances. The conversation branches into Taylor Swift’s “superpowers” and her Eras Tour, before Busby reveals what his original plan for the episode had been. As always, they close things out by reminding listeners to like, comment, subscribe, and share.
Following a second Sidebar Series, the entire iLLogical gang returns to restore order with hot takes that challenge mediocrity and call out names when needed. Hip-Hop dominates the opening act as Tyler, the Creator’s Don’t Tap the Glass earns top-tier praise (10:17), but questions start bubbling once Freddie Gibbs & Alchemist's Alfredo 2 hits the plate (18:43). Metro Boomin tries a concept play with A Futuristic Summa (22:50), while JID's God Does Like Ugly (29:38) pushes the panel into one of their toughest breakdowns of the year.In the world of pop and playback, Taylor Swift literally shut down the Internet with her surprise album announcement (45:43), while Cardi B flips Jay-Z’s “Imaginary Players” and sets the internet ablaze (49:57). With Grammy season on the horizon, the crew debates early contenders and whether a true Best Rap Album sleeper pick is lurking in plain sight (56:42).Legal smoke clouds the courtroom as Drake launches a messy lawsuit over Kendrick’s diss cover art (1:04:29), demanding contracts, criminal records, paternity files, and even info on Dave Free. It’s chess, not checkers—but did "The Boy" go too far this time?Sports and streaming take over the fourth quarter: Disney+ is on demon time (1:26:05), NFL season heat checks (1:29:23), Jameis Winston earns presidential status (1:37:49), and the NBA flips the script with a new broadcast era (1:40:57). Another wired and wonderfully chaotic ride with The iLLogical Sense Podcast.All that and more MVP-level madness in this mixtape-mashin’, stat-padding, lawsuit-slingin’ State of the iLLogical Union edition of The iLLogical Sense Podcast.Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates!
Sidebar Series #2

Sidebar Series #2

2025-08-0959:12

Busby and Marteen kick things off with their trademark banter before diving into a discussion about music sales—breaking down the difference between meaningful sales and empty numbers. From there, they explore the rise and transformation of Stan culture, questioning its charged-up intensity today. The conversation naturally shifts to Drake: Can he actually write? Has there been a real change in his artistry? Busby reveals his true feelings on Drake, which spirals into an unexpected tangent about Hulk Hogan. The duo also touches on Netflix’s show Unreal and debates whether J. Cole can “right the ship” in the current rap climate.
The sun may be beaming in July, but snow is all around as the iLLogical gang returns with a kilo of commentary and a suitcase full of opinions. Before they get to bagging bars, J.C. drops the kind of major life news that would make a plug proud, minus the federal charges (1:37). The crew taps in on Kendrick and SZA’s Toronto tour stop (5:12), where love from the Six turns into something unreal. Meanwhile, Drake’s abs go viral for all the wrong reasons (9:30), and he tries to spin the block with a new diss track, "What Did I Miss" (13:50)… but do the results hold up under pressure?Once they get tired of flipping through the same old mid, the squad shifts to the powder fresh perfection of Clipse’s long-awaited comeback album, Let God Sort Em Out, produced entirely by Pharrell (30:00). From the flawless rollout to the snow-covered rhymes, the crew debates whether this coke rap capsule is a classic or just a really solid re-up.Then in the courtroom corner, the crew breaks down Diddy’s federal verdict (1:17:26). Not guilty on the biggest charges, but guilty on transporting individuals across state lines for prostitution. Sentencing lands in October, but public reaction is already moving weight.Other stories on the line include another verified lurker sliding into Busby’s replies (58:20), a first look at the new Superman reboot that has more white powder than kryptonite (1:07:15), a flurry of new music including JID’s The Preluxe (1:11:23), Larry June and Cardo’s Until Night Comes (1:13:12), Tech N9ne’s 5816 Forest (1:16:02), and the Buss Family selling a majority stake in the Lakers for a clean $10 billion (1:24:43).All that and more culturally inappropriate takes in this fully loaded, brick by brick edition of The iLLogical Sense Podcast.Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates!
Sidebar Series #1

Sidebar Series #1

2025-07-0359:53

The iLLogical gang brings you a new series, The Sidebar Series, where we might not always have the same combination on the couch, but it’s always an entertaining conversation. In the series’ premiere episode, Busby & Martin are on the couch and begin an in-depth talk about the San Francisco 49ers (01:35), including roster moves, the schedule, and predictions for the season from around the NFL (13:30). Later, the guys get into a hip-hop talk pertaining to a video from YouTuber lil bill (25:00), which leads to Busby’s conspiracy of a new challenger wanting to challenge K Dot (32:10), which then leads us from one topic to the next, where they ultimately circle back to the original topic. Keep Up!And make sure you keep up with the gang! Twitter/X - @tillogicalsp @mrbusby4o8 @macfly408 @jcnohunnidzIG - @Theillogicalsense @mrbusby @macfly408 @jcnohunnidz
They may flip from weekly to semi-weekly to monthly like a rotating McRib, but the consistency on the iLLogical gang menu stays stacked and smoking every time! Kicking things off, the crew recaps two Grand National Tour shows across California and Nevada—with Busby, Martin, and Matt in San Francisco, and J.C. in Las Vegas—to share their favorite moments from Kendrick Lamar and SZA’s legendary coast-to-coast combo meal of a run (03:34).With the show now cookin’ on high heat, the gang reacts to Drake announcing his UK tour (1:02:33)—but the timeline’s response? Let’s just say it ain’t exactly lovin’ it. Meanwhile, Joey Bada$$ & Ray Vaughn flip the rap game into a surprise battle royale (1:11:01), Complex serves up another hot-and-cold Top Rappers list (1:19:42), and Lil Wayne’s 'Tha Carter VI 'pulls up like a spicy Popeyes collab—with all the wrong sides (1:25:21).Also on the tray—Clipse announces their long-awaited comeback album, 'Let God Sort Em Out,' drops July 11 (1:40:40), E-40 delivers a Tiny Desk that feels like a 40-box of Bay Area flavor (1:56:05), and the crew breaks down Season 4 of Raising Kanan—because even when the plot thins, the beef stays on the grill (2:00:57).All that and more value-sized chaos, sizzling takes, and mic-dropping moments in the latest edition of The iLLogical Sense Podcast.Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates!
The iLLogical gang returns to break down the one-year anniversary of Kendrick Lamar's diss tracks toward Drake (6:55), including DJ Hed’s guest appearance on Rory & Mal to debate the outcome with Mal (11:32). Meanwhile, UMG fires back with a new motion to dismiss Drake’s lawsuit (23:23), prompting J.C. to put his paralegal studies to use with his own detailed case brief (28:30).As the episode unfolds, the crew offers deeper analysis on Kendrick’s catalog since 2022 (47:55), unpacks what this lawsuit really represents for Drake (56:40), celebrates why '90s cartoons remain elite (1:07:57), music reviews for Wiz Khalifa’s highly anticipated 'Kush & OJ 2' (1:21:00), Ray Vaughn’s 'The Good, The Bad, The Dollar Menu' (1:29:30), and more!Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates!
Episode 319: "Coogler Inc!"

Episode 319: "Coogler Inc!"

2025-05-0101:54:10

The iLLogical gang is back in full swing, kicking things off with a full WrestleMania 41 recap, covering all the surprises, highs, and head-scratchers from the big weekend. The crew also celebrates the 20th anniversary of Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith, sharing personal memories and its place in the saga’s legacy.From there, it’s lights, camera, action with a review of the film SINNERS, followed by reactions to Shannon Sharpe’s latest scandal making headlines. The conversation heats up with the latest from KKKanye West, before diving into new visuals from both sides of the battle: Drake’s "Nokia" video and Kendrick Lamar & SZA’s "Luther" collab. They close out with thoughts on the 2025 NFL Draft and much more!👉 Full episode streaming now on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon, and more. Check it out!
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Episode 318: "You Got Me!"

Episode 318: "You Got Me!"

2025-04-0301:51:54

The iLLogical gang returns with smoke in the air, as Busby addresses a wave of resurfaced tweets that Drake Stans ran wild with (1:47), while J.C. speaks on the selective outrage that made its way into his mentions (10:53).With that handled, the crew shifts back to the world outside, starting with more Drake reference track leaks making the rounds (17:59). From there, it’s all about LeBron&B energy (32:24), Bron’s appearance with Pat McAfee reacting to Stephen A. Smith’s comments about Bronny (36:07), and Akademiks claiming Kendrick Lamar ruined rap (49:40). They also take time to reflect on what life was like when COVID-19 hit (55:40), including the music that defined 2020 (1:10:30), before closing out with YG’s bold new single, “2004” (1:14:35), and much more.Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates!
The iLLogical gang adjusts to daylight savings time (2:15), then revisit Kendrick Lamar's critically acclaimed, 'To Pimp a Butterfly,' for the 10-year anniversary (4:53), including memories & their first experiences with the album (6:51), debating if it’s his best body of work (39:50), and asking whether they’d want to relive that initial listen all over again (46:05). The crew also marks the one-year anniversary of Kendrick’s "Like That" verse (56:04), reflecting on its impact and lasting influence.Elsewhere, Lauryn Hill’s co-sign of Doechii sends industry figures into a frenzy (1:04:45), Playboi Carti’s long-awaited album, 'Music,' finally drops (1:11:53), Kanye returns to controversial social media posts (1:22:38), NFL Free Agency kicks off with a Myles Garrett gaslighting (1:28:42), and much more!Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates!
The iLLogical gang return to dive into the highs and lows of Drake & PARTYNEXTDOOR’s '$ome $exy $ongs 4 U'—from its #1 debut and record sales (9:42) to a steep second-week drop off (13:11) and Drake canceling his Australia tour, sparking rumors of low ticket sales (23:41). Meanwhile, J. Cole’s new single, "Clouds" (27:54), has fans debating his lyrics and whether the competitive content is viewed the same after backing out of the beef (38:08).Elsewhere in music, Busby gets Kevin Durant’s attention on Twitter as a result of "Clouds" (42:35), and Kendrick Lamar continues breaking Spotify records (1:02:17). The crew then reacts to the events in sports, including Steve Smith Sr. marching to the beat of another man's drum (1:14:52), the 49ers trading Deebo Samuel Sr. to the Commanders (1:21:32), Luka Dončić cooking the Mavericks in L.A. (1:29:24), and much more!Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for updates!
Episode 315: "¡El Busby!"

Episode 315: "¡El Busby!"

2025-02-2001:37:30

The iLLogical gang locks in for another loaded episode, kicking things off with the Mavericks sending Luka Dončić to the Lakers for Anthony Davis in a blockbuster trade that shook up the entire NBA before the deadline (01:51). The crew then dives into Super Bowl LIX, where the Eagles dominated the Chiefs in a commanding 44-22 victory (15:29).The conversation shifts to music as the crew unpacks Kendrick Lamar’s historic week, sweeping the Grammys and breaking records with his Apple Music Halftime Show (28:47). Larry June, 2 Chainz & The Alchemist’s new album, 'Life is Beautiful' (01:03:28), Busby has words for Aubrey’s Angels following Drake & PARTYNEXTDOOR’s collaboration album, '$ome $exy $ongs 4 U' (01:07:47), and more.Subscribe to The iLLogical Sense Podcast on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon, or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter for updates!
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