Rational Romantics

In this episode, Cass and Deb deep dive something totally new and yet extremely familiar: Themselves! They weave through their history with media, from the foundational movies that made them who they are (with direct lines they can draw from their favorite romance as a child to their favorite Bridgerton couple), to the teen shows and franchises that made them, and into their adulthood obsessions that are still with them to this day. Join these two for the surprises, tangents, and delightful digressions of this fun episode all about your hosts and what they love. A quick note from Cass and Deb: we discuss the Harry Potter franchise in this episode as we want to acknowledge our own history with the IP. We want to make completely clear that we support the trans community unequivocally and do not support any of the damaging rhetoric and actions that have been committed against them.

Cass and Deb dive back into the world of Outlander with three more episodes of Blood of My Blood! Join them as they weave through the complex web of fan theories and prophecies in the Scottish Highlands, as well as reflect on character development and an ever-thickening plot. Get fabulous fun facts, like a casual mention of Dougal's eventual wife, to massive clues about the eventual identity of a certain newborn baby. They share what they loved, what they weren't big fans of, and of course, they don't skip the hard stuff: be aware of some tough content and triggers, including discussion of birth and of sexual assault.

Let's get intimate! Join Cass and Deb as they chat with the incredible Vanessa Coffey, the intimacy coordinator for Outlander (since Season 6), Blood of My Blood, and The Buccaneers. She shares so much about the role and importance of intimacy coordination as well as how she got into the job, then dives deep into the practical and aesthetic concerns on set. From pandemic problems to pregnancy concerns, from who's on top or how to tug someone's hair, and even establishing trust between a fictional parent and child, Vanessa does it all! And she shares with the Rational Romantics all about it. And of course, Cass and Deb discuss some big developments in the Bridgerverse, as well as a massive Taylor Swift update. This is one of the most exciting and fascinating episodes in pod history -- make sure to tune in!

Welcome back to the world of Outlander! Cass and Deb dive into the first three episodes of Blood of My Blood, the prequel series featuring Jamie and Claire's parents. Join them as they weave through the fascinating, time-bending narrative at the beginning of this new, but deeply familiar, series. They explore the incredible casting choices, note fun facts from cameos to locations, and reflect on the story so far, as well as speculate on what's to come. If you're a longtime Sassenach, this is an episode, and a series, for you, full of appreciation for the original while being it's own story. And if you're new to the Outlander Universe, this is a great place to start. The series stands fully on its own, and this podcast will be with you every step of the way to enjoy, deep dive, and theorize!

Buckle in, Rational Romantics, because there are two very exciting topics for this episode! First, Cass and Deb deep dive the incredibly exciting news from Taylor Swift that her new album, "The Life of a Showgirl," is releasing October 3rd. Oh, and she did a massive, two-hour long podcast interview with Jason and Travis Kelce where she discussed everything from her romance with Travis, to getting back her masters, to her new album. Cass and Deb can't contain their excitement for this new era! And following, they talk to another dynamo in her industry: author Rachel Reid. Her book, Heated Rivalry, a queer hockey romance, is being made into a television series at Crave. Cass and Deb discuss the fabulous, steamy books, as well as what to expect from the show. The cast is incredible, the story impeccable, and you are not going to want to miss Heated Rivalry -- or this interview!

Cass and Deb dive into the rollercoaster that is the Buccaneers Season Two! Join them for all the details, theories, and strong feelings this newest series evoked. From the loss of beloved characters to massive bombshells about scandals, affairs, and paternity, this season was packed. Of course, Cass and Deb don't pull punches, from praises the incredible and difficult storyline Jinny had to face, to making their feelings known about that ending. If you want honest reactions and true feelings about this season, this is the place to go. They also look forward to a potential season three and start to discuss what they may want to see from this show moving forward. If you're a Buccaneers fan, or a fan of Cass and Deb feeling strongly about things, this is an episode for you!

Cass and Deb chat with the incredible Jenny Rhodes-MacLean, the hair and makeup designer for The Buccaneers who has also worked on some of our other favorite shows, like Bridgerton. She gives incredible insight into some major evolutions for the characters that is shown in their look, from Theo's darker hair to Honoria's softer glow. If you're a Buccaneers fan, or just enjoy learning about all the details that go into crafting such a phenomenal show, this is an interview for you! And of course, Cass and Deb deep dive all the updates in Bridgerton, Outlander, and more. From fantastic casting news to theories, there's always something to get excited about!

Buckle in listeners, because this one is a ride! In case you missed it, Cass and Deb interviewed the one and only Oli Higginson (aka Footman John, aka Modern Oli) on episode 22 of the pod. Go give that one a listen, then dive into episode 23 where the Rational Romantics discuss and dissect every aspect of the interview. From massive revelations regarding certain songs that may be showing up in Bridgerton Season 4 to wild theories about a certain servant's parentage, this is a packed and thrilling episode. Plus a bit of Cass and Deb's raw reactions to the interview: spoiler alert, there are a few squeals and giggles. And make sure you stick around to the very end to hear a last clip from Oli himself that gives us a big hint for when we will be getting some exciting news in the Bridgerverse. Go follow Oli's music @modern_oli on Instagram, and drop your thoughts and theories in the comments on socials. There's so much to discuss in this episode!

Join Cass and Deb with a very special guest, Oli Higginson! We met him first as Footman John in the Bridgerton house, a role he has played from Season 1 and into Season 4, the upcoming series. As Modern Oli (@modern_oli on Instagram), he's kicking off an already impressive career in music. Cass and Deb get the chance to ask him all the burning questions about his songwriting process, his upcoming record, and of course, both his history and future with Footman John. Dive into this fantastic interview where seeds are planted, teases are toyed with, and MASSIVE clues and revelations are dropped. The Rational Romantics are so excited to bring you this phenomenal interview with such a fantastic person, and it is certainly an episode you will not want to miss!

Cass and Deb complete their "Galitzine Education" as they each bring a movie starring the heartthrob Nicholas Galitzine that the other hasn't seen and discuss their new watch! And make sure to stick around to the end for a VERY special announcement of the next guest on the pod. But first, Cass discovers the fairy tale wonder of "Cinderella" as Deb notes the Benophie-coded music and the girl-power centered retelling of a familiar story. Deb dives into the intercontinental romance of "Red, White & Royal Blue" as Cass highlights the enemies to lovers turn and the powerful, authentically queer love story. Two fabulous movies with a swoony hero in common, and a great discussion! Followed by the most delectable of desserts -- big news for the pod! Definitely don't miss your Galitzine Eductation!

Join Cass and Deb as they chat with Gemma Burgess, the showrunner and executive producer of "My Lady Jane!" Your Rational Romantics hosts update you on the world of the Bridgerverse, including some whiplash around a rumored second season of Queen Charlotte: A Bridgerton Story. Then they dive into the interview with Gemma, who reveals the casting process for the iconic Jane and Guildford in Emily Bader and Edward Bluemel, as well as reveals behind-the-scenes details (a cut clandestine handy under the table that distracted from the attempted poisoning, anyone?), and has some fabulous laughs as the ladies chat about this phenomenal show. And while their disappointment that "My Lady Jane" wasn't renewed for a Season Two is palpable, Gemma helps ease the pain a bit by revealing some MAJOR plot points that were coming if they had gotten to continue. A year after "My Lady Jane" aired, this gem of a show, and this gem of a showrunner, are still delivering.

You know we couldn't leave you hanging! Cass and Deb dive into all their thoughts on the Bridgerton Season 4 Wrapped video! From a glimpse of Sophie in blue -- or perhaps more precisely, teal? -- to a grown up Gregory and our first look at Michaela in Season 4 with Francesca...there is so much to discuss! This is a bonus episode that is entirely packed with details and theories, even ones that Cass and Deb discover in the process of the podcast. You must make haste to listen along and share all your thoughts on the many threads this video spins.

Let's talk Taylor! Get a window I to Cass and Deb's big reactions to Taylor Swift getting back her masters. They deep dive, note favorites, and chat casually about their history with and love of Taylor Swift. They also drop a few updates from the Bridgerverse, including a certain wedding that might have just been confirmed! And they throw in some Blood of My Blood with an exciting update. This potpourri of an ep is a blast, and too fun to miss, especially for the Swifties!

Get ready to Buccaneers! Cass and Deb dive into one of the best period dramas on TV right now with a recap of The Buccaneers Season One in preparation for Season Two releasing June 18th! Your Rational Romantics of course hit those Bridgerton updates (like some very exciting new cast!) And Cass talks about a very special opportunity she received about the Buccaneers! Then they dive into Season One, giving a full, spoiler recap of the season before kicking off the next. If you're a longtime fan, refresh your memory and get these fresh takes! If you're looking for a reason to watch, this is certainly it! Come along, deep dive these rich characters, complex relationships, and delightful storytelling, and have a blast along the way!

Join Cass and Deb as they finish reading and discussing An Offer From a Gentleman by Julia Quinn! With such an exciting ending coming up, this episode is full of privilege, power, and punches! With lots of laughs and a few predictions too from your Rational Romantics. They of course drop a few updates on the Bridgerverse and the wider pop culture scope, including World Outlander Day with a fantastic baton-passing between the generations. And they reflect on the fabulous book that is the inspiration for Bridgerton Season 4 with all the impending swoony and delightful content to come. From a jail to a bathtub to a drawing room epilogue, this an episode you won't want to miss!

Join Cass and Deb as they answer the questions you most want to know! Everything from Bridgerton predictions to song picks and, of course, going off on random tangents. They run through all the updates in the Bridgerverse this week, and have a blast digging deep on all the theories and ideas about what's to come. Make sure to check out @rationalromantics.pod on Instagram to get your fan questions in for the next episode!

Join Cass and Deb as they discuss some truly pivotal chapters in Benedict and Sophie's book journey toward their happily ever after. In the penultimate episode in their read-along for An Offer From a Gentleman, they break down everything from steamy scenes to appalling arrests -- this is a packed episode! And they of course talk about all the updates in the Bridgerverse, including the news that Season Four is coming in EARLY 2026. They also discuss the upcoming Outlander prequel, Blood of My Blood, and make sure to clown a little for some Taylor news at the AMAs. This episode certainly has a bit of everything, and Cass and Deb having a blast with their favorite media, as always.

Join Cass and Deb as they break down all of the exciting Bridgerton news from this week. From a teaser scene for Season 4 -- and an iconic moment at that -- to a massive bit of news that lit up the fandom, the Rational Romantics are here to discuss it all. Come along for the full analysis of every frame we've seen of Benophie as well as all the predictions about the future of this fantastic series. And they reveal exclusive possible confirmation for a MASSIVE theory about Bridgerton Season 4 and a certain character the fandom has chatted a lot about. You all asked for the reactions, the banter, and the theories from this week's drops, so Cass and Deb deliver! Come along and join the fun.

There is just too much going on in the Bridgerverse this week for Cass and Deb to cover in one episode...so they're bringing you a bonus! The Rational Romantics break down all the evidence that has come this week toward a potential Bridgerton spinoff. They also speculate on what it might be as well as when we might hear the possible news, which may be just right around the corner. This has been a wildly exciting week, so if you're feeling excited (and a little overwhelmed), join Cass and Deb as they catch up on all the details.

Join Cass and Deb AND Erika Okvist, the hair and makeup designer of Bridgerton Seasons 2 and 3! The Rational Romantics hear right from the source about everything from Queen Charlotte's amazing wigs to Colin's emotional support curl. Erika offers incredible stories from her past, including cutting the hair of Sweden's heartthrob with her kitchen scissors and styling on Downton Abbey. She dives deep on Bridgerton, discussing the process of how styling for these unique and iconic characters works, and even fangirls along with everyone who saw Colin in his pirate coat. This is an unmissable episode with so many fantastic details and delightful moments.