The Moonshot Podcast

Premiering March 10th! The Moonshot Podcast chronicles the untold stories of innovation - both highs and lows - from 15 years inside Google’s Moonshot Factory. Go behind the scenes with the inventors and creators exploring the huge problems, radical solutions and breakthrough technologies that have the potential to reshape our world. Self-driving cars, superhuman hearing, robots, drone delivery, wildfire prediction and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Fifteen years ago, the world thought self-driving cars were impossible - even the experts doubted it. Today, they’re on the road. In this inaugural episode of The Moonshot Podcast, join Astro Teller inside X, Alphabet’s Moonshot Factory, to discover the early days of Waymo’s self-driving vehicles and Wing’s autonomous drone deliveries. Astro meets Sebastian Thrun, co-founder of X, to revisit the origin story of this innovation lab and, with leaders from Waymo and Wing, explores what’s next for driverless cars and drone delivery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nearly 3 billion people still don’t have a reliable internet connection. In this episode of The Moonshot Podcast, Astro Teller dives into X’s decade-long mission to bring fast, reliable and affordable connectivity to people everywhere. We uncover the inside story of Loon - the audacious attempt to use high-altitude balloons for internet access - and how its legacy lives on in Taara, a revolutionary way to deliver fast, affordable connectivity over long distances using beams of light. Expect balloons in jail, monkeys causing mischief, and a digital leap over the world’s deepest river. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 15 years of Alphabet’s moonshot factory.  Thank you to Mahesh Krishnaswamy, Nick Kohli, Strive Masiyiwa and Sal Candido for featuring in this episode. The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, the moonshot factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Toby Matimong. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Artificial Intelligence is reshaping everything - but how did we get here? Dive deep with Astro Teller into the origins of Google Brain, meeting Andrew Ng and Jeff Dean, two of AI’s early pioneers. Their innovations helped shatter a decades-long computing block and catapulted deep learning from the academic arena to the commercial prime time. We’ll also explore Codey, an AI system that writes and rewrites software. How do those designing AI’s next generation think about its opportunities and challenges? Could AI revolutionize the process of innovation itself? Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots,  The Moonshot Podcast  goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 15 years of Google’s moonshot factory.  Thank you to Andrew Ng, Jeff Dean, Scott Huffman, Benoît Schillings and Olivia Hatalsky for featuring in this episode. The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, The Moonshot Factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Toby Matimong. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Agriculture is the world’s oldest industry – and it’s racing to meet one of the newest and biggest challenges of our time: how to feed a growing global population that will soon hit 10 billion people. In this episode, Astro Teller explores how two moonshot teams set out to reinvent the way we grow food, using cutting-edge technology in some unexpected places. We follow the team behind Mineral, who began their journey with a pair of bicycles and a radical idea for rethinking farming from the ground up. And we head underwater with Tidal, where the team is using computer vision to transform ocean aquaculture. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with the engineers and inventors using breakthrough technologies to try to find radical solutions to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 15 years of Google’s moonshot factory.  Thank you to Elliott Grant, David Guerena, Evan Rapoport, Rajesh Jadhav, Joe Sargent, Paul Nnko, Elifura Nassari and Elinansha Nanyaro for featuring in this episode.  The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, the moonshot factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Toby Matimong. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robots are at the heart of sci-fi, visions of the future, but what if that future is now? And what if those robots, helping us at work and at home, are simply an extension of the tools we’ve used for millions of years? That’s what artist and engineer Catie Cuan thinks, and it’s part of the reason she teaches robots to dance. In this episode we meet the people at the frontiers of the future of robotics and Astro Teller introduces two groundbreaking projects, Everyday Robots and Intrinsic, that have advanced how robots could work not just for us but with us. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with the engineers and inventors using breakthrough technologies to try to find radical solutions to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories from 15 years of Google’s innovation lab. Thank you to Catie Cuan, Hans Peter Brondmo, James Manyika and Wendy Tan White for featuring in this episode.  The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, the moonshot factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Toby Matimong. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What if waste wasn’t the end of the story – but the start of something new? In this episode of The Moonshot Podcast, we explore Delta, a Moonshot to help feed the millions of Americans facing food insecurity, and X’s Moonshot for Circularity which is working to design waste systems that are more resilient, more adaptable, and more intelligent from the outset. This isn’t just about cleaning up – it’s about building a world where nothing useful gets thrown away. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with the engineers and inventors using breakthrough technologies to try to find radical solutions to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories from 15 years of Google’s innovation lab. Thank you to Emily Ma, Mark Mollenkopf, Rey Banatao, Emma Lingle and Chef Monet for featuring in this episode.  The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, the moonshot factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Toby Matimong. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Natural disasters will keep coming — but what if we could stay one step ahead? That’s the mission of Bellwether, a moonshot working to build a “crystal ball” for the natural world. Their team is uniting the talents and expertise of firefighters and physicians to turn messy geospatial data into real-time forecasts for fire, flood and beyond, helping communities prepare for the unpredictable. We also meet the inventors behind 280 Earth, a project that uses waste heat from data centres to pull CO₂ from the air and produce clean water in the process. This is a story about resilience — technological, economic and human — and the power of radical foresight. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with the engineers and inventors using breakthrough technologies to try to find radical solutions to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories from 15 years of Google’s innovation lab. Thank you to Robert Baird, Sarah Russell, Jacques Gagne and Helen Riley for featuring in this episode.  The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, the moonshot factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Toby Matimong. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Energy might just be the ultimate moonshot – because if we can make it affordable, abundant and dependable long-term, it could improve life for all 8.2 billion people on Earth. In this episode, we follow two bold projects from X: Blixt, a fusion Moonshot that took a high-risk bet on a decades-old scientific mystery, and Tapestry, a new set of AI powered tools that are helping grid operators manage the world’s largest machine. From lightning bolts and frozen hydrogen, to mapping the electricity networks of entire countries, this is a story about risk, reward, and the invisible systems we all depend on. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with the engineers and inventors using breakthrough technologies to try to find radical solutions to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories from 15 years of Google’s innovation lab. Thank you to Matt Forkin, Brian Adolf, Will Regan, Ivo Stivoric, Page Crahan and Juan Carlos Olmedo for featuring in this episode.  The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, the moonshot factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Toby Matimong. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What if, rather than making you distracted, your smart device helped you be more present? In this episode, we revisit the early days of Google Glass: a bold Moonshot that opened up new ways of seeing and being in the world. We go behind the scenes with the designers and engineers who shaped it – and hear how their insights helped inspire IyO, a next-generation audio wearable designed to integrate our digital and physical lives while also liberating us from screens. From skydiving, to the real-life “babel fish”, this is a story about the power of invention, the importance of timing, and how to design and build technology that fits humanity – not the other way around. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with the engineers and inventors using breakthrough technologies to try to find radical solutions to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories from 15 years of Google’s innovation lab. Thank you to Ivy Ross, Isabelle Olsson, Ivo Stirovic, Jason Rugolo and Joe Sargent for featuring in this episode.  The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, The Moonshot Factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Louis Nanke-Mannell. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Astro joins an all-star cast of inventors, futurists and creatives for a live conversation about radical innovation on-stage at SXSW 2025. These pioneers and problem-solvers pull together the threads of our series, revealing how imagination and prototyping can come together to tackle global challenges like transportation, energy, food security and human health. Recorded in front of a live audience in Austin, Texas, this special episode explores how creativity, curiosity, and a maker's spirit have the power to transform bold ideas into reality. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with the engineers and inventors using breakthrough technologies to try to find radical solutions to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories from 15 years of Google’s innovation lab. Thank you to Nicholas Thompson, Adam Savage and Catie Cuan for joining us on stage at SXSW 2025. The Moonshot Podcast is a Blanchard House production for X, The Moonshot Factory. It’s produced by Ellie Sans and Sophie Eastaugh. Original music by Louis Nanke-Mannell and Daniel Lloyd-Evans. Sound design and mix engineering by Toby Matimong. The executive producers are Amica Sciortino Nowlan and Rebecca Maxted. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

n the first installment of our Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive video interview series, X’s Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with Sebastian Thrun, co-founder of the Moonshot Factory, for a conversation about the history of Waymo and Google X, the ethics of innovation, the future of AI, and more. Watch the video to hear how the self-driving car project got its start, Sebastian’s philosophy for building great teams, and practical advice for anyone who wants to tackle a big problem with a moonshot idea. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the second installment of our Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive video interview series, X’s Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with André Prager, former Chief Engineer at Wing, for a conversation about the early days of Wing and how the team solved some of their toughest engineering challenges to develop simple, lightweight, inexpensive delivery drones that are now being used every day across three continents. Watch the video to hear the story of André’s earliest inventions as a teenager, the surprising discovery that led the Wing team to rethink the drones’ sound, why engineering often feels like creating art, and more. For more, check out André on Episode 1 of The Moonshot Podcast, “Driving the Future”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXGnjbkFLeo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the third installment of our Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive video interview series, X’s Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with Dr. Catie Cuan, robot choreographer and former artist in residence at Everyday Robots, for a conversation about how dance can be used to build beautiful and useful robots that people want to be around. Watch the video to hear how Catie and the Everyday Robots team transformed robotic motion into music, what it feels like when she’s dancing with a robot and why she’s “hyper-optimistic” about the future of robotics. For more, check out Catie on Episode 5 of The Moonshot Podcast, “Living With Robots”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUcB73KgEVs 00:00 - Introduction 00:29 - Catie’s mission to make robots more humanistic and whimsical 02:12 - How Catie came to X and Everyday Robots 03:40 - Using dance to make robots less “robotic” 07:38 - Teaching robots human social cues 11:00 - Transforming robotic motion into sound with “music mode” 15:16 - Programming robots to “flock” together like animals 18:31 - How young kids interact with robots 20:15 - Catie’s own experience interacting with her robots 22:18 - Working with experts outside the field 24:36 - Designing robots to not look like “robots” 28:44 - Helping humanity face their visceral fear of robots 32:40 - The moonshot and legacy of Everyday Robots 35:42 - Catie’s advice for moonshot-takers 37:27 - Catie’s vision for what the future looks like Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the fourth installment of our Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive video interview series, X’s Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with Andrew Ng, the founder of Google Brain and DeepLearning.AI, for a conversation about the history of neural network research and how Andrew’s pioneering ideas led to some of the biggest breakthroughs in modern-day AI. Hear about the origins of Google’s deep learning work, how Andrew’s teenage frustrations led him to pursue a career in machine learning and automation, and the work that led up to Google Brain’s infamous “cat video” paper. For more on X’s AI moonshots, check out Andrew on Episode 3 of The Moonshot Podcast, “Machines That Think”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jLPA8Qpc74 00:00 - Introduction 03:30 - Andrew’s groundbreaking early theories about neural networks 08:16 - Why Andrew came to X with his ideas 10:30 - The unlikely history of neural network research 15:25 - Jeff Dean as Andrew’s “partner in crime” 17:16 - The origins of Google Brain’s neural networks 18:32 - Google Brain’s evolution in and out of hardware 22:01 - Google Brain’s innovation around transformers 24:36 - Google Brain’s earliest leaps forward in AI 28:24 - Google Brain’s graduation from X into Google 31:50 - What Andrew is up to these days 34:07 - Where the AI and machine learning field is going 35:19 - Andrew’s passion for education 36:51 - Why Andrew became interested in AI as a teenager 37:53 - AI’s democratizing effect on humanity 41:34 - How Andrew defines the term “artificial intelligence” 43:51 - Google Brain’s “cat video” coming out moment 45:51 - AI’s potential positive impact on the workforce 47:17 - Andrew’s favorite aspects of moonshot-taking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the fifth installment of our Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive video interview series, X’s Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with Google DeepMind’s Chief Scientist Jeff Dean for a conversation about the origin of Jeff’s pioneering work scaling neural networks. They discuss the first time AI captured Jeff’s imagination, the earliest Google Brain framework, the team’s stratospheric advancements in image recognition and speech-to-text, how AI is evolving, and more. For more on X’s AI moonshots, check out Jeff on Episode 3 of The Moonshot Podcast, “Machines That Think”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jLPA8Qpc74 00:00 - Introduction 00:35 - What Jeff’s childhood was like 03:50 - The first “non-trivial” thing Jeff coded 05:02 - Jeff’s “love/hate” relationship with C++ 06:59 - The first time AI captured Jeff’s imagination 10:40 - When neural networks fell “out of vogue” 12:24 - How Jeff made a career out of “starting over” 14:23 - The origins of Google Brain 17:30 - Critical components of scaling neural networks 18:43 - The earliest Google Brain framework 19:32 - How the team first built a 100x bigger neural network 22:04 - The cat video that started it all 25:02 - Google Brain’s major progress on image recognition 26:24 - Google Brain’s major progress on speech to text 27:29 - The origins of TensorFlow and TPUs 31:56 - Three breakthroughs in understanding language models 37:41 - Where Jeff thinks the world is headed 40:07 - The shift from “making things” to designing prompts 42:38 - How Jeff uses AI to enhance his own life 43:51 - Safety, security, and privacy in AI 50:26 - The future of understanding neural network behavior 53:34 - When computers are “smarter” than humans 56:52 - Jeff’s next-five-years plan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the sixth installment of our Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive series, X’s Captain of Moonshots, Astro Teller, discusses plant breeding and the future of agriculture with Agricultural Scientist, David Guerena. David works with The International Center for Tropical Agriculture (CIAT) — a partner of Mineral, X’s moonshot for computational agriculture. They discuss plant breeding, the challenges facing smallholder farmers around the world, and how the tools Mineral developed are helping plant breeders grow more resilient crops. For more on Mineral’s impact on agriculture, check out Episode 4 of The Moonshot Podcast, “Feeding the World”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQS3lY6pRvY And to learn more about how Mineral’s technology is being used by public plant breeding programs in the Global South, check out The Artemis Project: https://alliancebioversityciat.org/projects/artemis 00:00 - Introduction 1:09 - Why humans eat certain plants 3:20 - How plants have historically been domesticated 4:53 - The origins of plant breeding 6:52 - The changing face of plant breeding 8:42 - Gene banks that preserve genetic diversity 10:22 - Helping small farmers with plant breeding 12:33 - How David’s career started 14:00 - The process of identifying and cataloguing plants 23:32 - CIAT and CGIAR’s partnership with Mineral 26:13 - Mineral’s technology 32:59 - Unexpected findings from Mineral’s early days 38:40 - Solving for the biggest challenges in plant breeding 40:08 - Phenotyping 101 41:06 - The impact of Mineral’s technology 44:39 - The challenges of existing breeding systems 50:10 - The future of computational agriculture 57:00 - The impact of AI on plant breeders and farmers 59:19 - A surprising insight about bean cooking time 1:01:47 - The future of plant breeding 1:03:58 - David, finally, talks about Bruno Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this installment of the Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive series, Astro Teller explores the origins of Google Glass with designers Ivy Ross and Isabelle Olsson. They discuss the unexpected design and tech challenges the team faced creating such a bold new form factor, the surprising ways people ended up wanting to use Glass, how their backgrounds in art influenced their approach, and the importance of timing when creating new technologies. For more on Glass’s early days, tune into Episode 9 of The Moonshot Podcast, “Supersenses”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpF2QJNL5Y 00:00 - Introduction 01:43 - How Isabelle wound up at X 03:37 - How Ivy came to X 07:25 - The big challenges Glass was solving 11:04 - The origins of the Glass Explorer Program 11:43 - Glass’s public debut 14:46 - Ivy’s earliest memories of Glass in action 18:37 - How art influenced the design of Glass 22:19 - Glass’s second generation design 27:20 - From sunglasses to monocles: Early design debates 31:30 - Surprising “fringe” uses of Glass in industry 34:33 - Reinventing Glass for industry 35:47 - Why timing matters 41:45 - Memorable team traditions 44:50 - When Glass moved from X to Google 47:41 - Early explorations with the Google Watch 49:37 - Lessons learned from taking moonshots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the eighth installment of the Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive series, Astro Teller discusses the future of audio wearables with iyO Founder Jason Rugolo. They discuss the many unexpected use cases for machine-mediated hearing, what it was like to build the world’s first audio computer and how to make audio wearables “cool.” For more on the origins of iyO and the next generation of audio wearable technology, tune into Episode 9 of the Moonshot Podcast, “Supersenses”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpF2QJNL5Y 00:00 - Introduction 02:17 - The first company Jason started at age 14 04:02 - How Jason came to X 06:40 - Jason’s earliest “fail fast” moonshot ideas 09:54 - The importance of being “the right amount too early” 12:45 - Radical idea for digital humans 14:59 - Early explorations into tele-video 18:49 - The original pitch for what became iyO 22:24 - Why designing great wearables for the ear is so hard 24:52 - Design considerations for audio wearables 29:41 - Making audio wearables “cool” 31:32 - The limitations of current in-ear devices 32:33 - The “superpowers” we’d have with machine-mediated hearing 35:30 - Building the first audio computer 36:30 - What the team’s first audio wearable looked like 38:01 - How audio wearables could help with translation 40:55 - The potential for wearables to protect from hearing loss 41:57 - The future of “hearing enhancement” apps 44:45 - The unexpected value of voice-to-audio interaction 48:34 - Astro’s “holy s**t” moment with audio wearables 52:26 - Why audio wearables need to change sound sources so quickly 55:47 - iyO’s public debut 57:23 - Surprising agentic AI use cases 58:50 - Physics conversations with the Einstein app using iyO 01:00:58 - Musical conversations with the iyO DJ app using iyO 01:01:51 - Jason’s hard-won lessons from taking moonshots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the ninth installment of the Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive series, Astro Teller and Emily Ma explore how to solve humanity’s food waste and hunger problems. They discuss how Project Delta built an “air traffic control” system for the world’s surplus food. They also discuss the origins of Chorus, X’s moonshot to give every object a voice which is now focused on optimizing global supply chains using advanced sensors and orchestration software. For more on the future of food waste, tune into Episode 6 of the Moonshot Podcast, “Trash to Treasure”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgRASA92Dco Video Segmentation 00:00 - Introduction 01:38 - The origins of Emily’s passion for food waste 04:07 - Why food waste is such a big problem 07:09 - How Emily wound up at X 10:24 - Google Glass in early food waste prototypes 12:06 - Emily’s “waste audit” sifting through physical trash 15:08 - How food is wasted in every phase of the production process 20:36 - An “air traffic control” system for the world’s surplus food 23:54 - How X’s food waste technology helped tackle that surplus 29:25 - What the team learned by working in the field 30:40 - Food waste “nodes” to reroute surplus food 33:34 - Applying X’s food waste technology outside the U.S. 35:41 - The team’s early vision for a supply chain moonshot - Chorus 39:56 - How Chorus evolved from the Delta team 41:26 - How Delta graduated to Google 45:06 - Emily’s fondest moonshot memories 46:54 - The importance of play when taking moonshots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices