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The following is an interview in full with sporting director Chris Markham regarding Liam Manning’s situation, followed by highlights of Jon Stead’s pre-match press conference ahead of Reading. You can hear the full thing, as well as skipper Ryan Ledson’s thoughts, on our podcast live feed or by hitting the play button above.We have also been asked to pass on from the club that Huddersfield Town will not be offering additional previews on YouTube in order to reduce the media workload on the coaching staff and players amid a busy end of the season.Chris MarkhamKatherine Hannah (BBC Radio Leeds): It’s a very difficult time for the football club in a lot of respects, so if you wouldn’t mind, first of all, just filling us in a little more on everything that’s happened with Liam Manning—how he is and how that unfolded, if you don’t mind.Yeah, look, as you said, it’s been a very difficult situation for everyone involved at the club. But most importantly, and first and foremost, Liam Manning as a person is at the forefront of our decisions, and treating him in the right way was, from the outset of the conversations that we had, the priority.Obviously, that was after the Plymouth game [that we spoke]. We normally agree to speak the day after the game, let the emotions die down, and then have a catch-up. We did that, and we had a very honest and, to be honest, tough and heart-wrenching conversation. It very much became clear that Liam Manning, the person, needed some support, and we were very, very quick in offering that support.It’s a very difficult situation to try and address and comprehend, but that was the upshot of it — Liam Manning, the person, comes first and foremost here.KH: Well, football matters an awful lot to an awful lot of people, but it kind of puts it all in perspective a bit, doesn’t it? Your heart just goes out to him and his family with everything they’ve had to deal with and continue to go through.Absolutely. Liam is the sort of person who doesn’t want to let anyone down, and a big part of our conversation was to give him the understanding that we don’t believe that’s what he’s done at all. We will continue to support him in the upcoming weeks, whatever that takes. He knows he’s got that support from us, and we’re confident he’s getting the right support—he’s exactly where he needs to be at the moment.We’re also looking forward. As you say, it puts it into perspective, but we are a professional football club and, unfortunately, the game never stops. Very quickly, we were aware that we’ve still got a big seven to ten games to come, and we had to turn our attention to that as well, which is obviously the dichotomy of football and why it’s so fast-paced.Yeah, it’s a very difficult situation to navigate through. In terms of these remaining seven games, Martin Drury and Jon Stead are going to take the helm — why did you feel that was the best course of action?Yeah, look, there are obviously lots of different ways you could have gone in this situation. We felt quite quickly that stability is probably what we needed at this moment in time — consistency of voices, with so few games left.The mentality around the training ground this week has been first class. I’ve been really, really impressed. It’s been a rallying round, bringing everybody together, letting everybody pitch in and give everything we’ve got to these last seven —hopefully tehn — games of the season.What led to that feeling was that we believe we’ve got some good coaches who work in the way that we want to work as a football club going forward. In the recruitment process when we interviewed Liam, we also made sure we did the appropriate interview processes for Martin and Jon, so we know what sort of coaches they are. We’re very confident and comfortable with having them here, and we’re really grateful to have them.KH: And I guess, particularly in light of how this has unfolded, that sense of stability and continuity perhaps makes more sense than bringing in somebody external, as we’ve seen some other clubs do, albeit in very different circumstances, for the remainder of the season.Yeah, exactly. To make sure we get the best out of these seven to ten games, we looked at what we thought was right here. With already having had a change in coaching, we wanted to make sure that any time we have now is maximising what we’ve currently got. We felt bringing somebody in from outside would only delay that process.KH: As difficult as it is, can you look beyond the end of the season, or do you have to wait and see how everything unfolds before having those conversations in the summer about how the club moves forward, whether that involves Liam Manning or not?At the moment, everything is about the next seven games. It’s very early on in this process — it’s just over a week since the announcement. We’re confident that Liam Manning is in the right place with the right support, and that’s our focus.We want to give everything to these last seven to ten games, and we’ll continue to monitor everything, as we do across the club, on a weekly basis. But right now, everything is geared towards a big Easter weekend. We’ve got a lot of games in the next couple of weeks — five really exciting games to tackle head-on.Everything is still to play for. That’s the message to the players and around the Canalside this week: let’s rally together, focus on the here and now, and give it everything.Jon SteadKH: Have you found the last few weeks, since the announcement that Liam was taking compassionate leave?Yeah, well, like you say, it’s a difficult circumstance, and I think Liam has been the main focus of the last ten days. We’ve been in a position to deal with the situation, but Liam’s having to deal with so much at the minute.We’ve been in regular contact with him, which is important. He’s reached out to us, he’s still engaged and seeing what we’re doing from afar.He’s had some unbelievable messages as well. I think when things like this happen, the football world really shows what it can do for good, so he’s had some fantastic messages, loads of support and well wishes. He’s very, very thankful for that, and he asked me to pass that message on because it’s been quite overwhelming. So yeah, the focus has been there, but we’ve got a job to do as well.It’s been, like you say, difficult and uncomfortable circumstances, but we’ve been driving things as hard as we can, because there’s still a massive part of the season left to play — full of optimism, full of belief, and excitement to end it strong. So yes, there’s been a lot of contrasting emotions, but ultimately it’s heads down and we’re getting work done.KH: And can you tell us a little more about the conversations you’ve had with sporting director Chris Markham when it became apparent that it would turn to yourself, Martin and the other coaches to see out the remaining seven games of…Ten.KH: OK, ten, I like that…what remit have you been given?Yeah, so it was a very straight conversation. Obviously, without going into too much detail over Liam’s situation, just the fact that he’s going to be away until the end of the season.It was a real “let’s club together” collective effort for myself, Martin and all the wider staff — even everybody here at the stadium, the grounds, just everybody: how can we come together and, as a collective, finish the season strong?So they were quite brief conversations, and me and Martin will front it and lead it, but it is very much a collective effort, and everybody is getting stuck in.KH: Do you continue the blueprint that was started by Liam Manning, or are you at liberty to tweak things, change things, completely change things if you see fit for the remaining games?Yeah, well, there’s a blueprint, there are principles, and there are different ways that coaches and managers work. I think the biggest thing has been adaptability. We’ve seen straight away there’s been a lot of change this season from start to now, so being adaptable is key.There are many things we’ll keep driving forward, but each game now is pretty much a cup final, so there’ll be very different specifics around personnel, system shapes, and so on. What we want to see now is character — we want to see players with belief, with hunger, all the main characteristics that are Huddersfield Town.So yeah, there are lots of different ways we might go, but it’s absolutely not a case of ‘now we’re in charge, we’re going to change everything’. There are processes already in place, and we’ve all been brought together as a staff because we have a strong belief and an aligned goal to get to the end of the season in the right way.We’ll continue on that path, and we’ll veer away from it at times as we see fit, depending on personnel, availability, the opposition — everything.Steven Chicken (We Are Terriers): I appreciate the circumstances aren’t what you would have liked, but you made your name here. Are you excited at the opportunity to go into that dugout alongside Martin and lead the team?Yeah, look, wearing this badge is what I want to do. That’s been the case since I was sat out there in a tracksuit as a ball boy. The honour for me is wearing the badge, whatever capacity that’s in — I’m not bothered.You could probably ask Brooky the same thing — he’d say the same. He’s been here for years. So yeah, I think part of the reasoning behind me and Martin is that we’re both local lads, both from Huddersfield, and that adds something.We’re taking on this role between now and the end of the season as part of a collective effort. We are an extension of everybody else in this building and in the stands. It’s not about me and Martin — it’s about us as a football club and the collective, and that’s what we need to drive behind.That’s why it’s broader than just myself and Martin.SC: You’re starting off with a big six-pointer on home turf — if things go your way, it could be a really memorable occasion for you, couldn’t it?Yeah, we’re excited. We get Friday

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comIt’s Q&A time in this week’s podcast, and we’ve got an absolute tonne of your questions to get through in a special double-length podcast.After we give our reaction to the Huddersfield Town managerial news, we dig straight into your questions on recruitment past and future, Town’s future ambitions, matters on and off the pitch, squad composition, leader…

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comWell, we said on the last episode that the trajectory of Huddersfield Town’s end-of-season run-in was still in the balance…and a miserable trip to Plymouth seemed to confirm the worst.The Terriers were outclassed by an Argyle side that is firmly on the rise, painting a stark contrast to Town’s own slow and seemingly unstoppable decline.So, what went wro…

Below are selected highlights from Thursday morning’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed, including Bali Mumba’s thoughts.Steven Chicken (We Are Terriers): I’ll start with team news first of all, please, and in particular, Ryan Hardie. How’s he doing after his knock the other night?Yeah, he’s still a bit sore, feeling it, so we need to have a look this morning and assess how he is before making a decision.SC: It would be a shame if he missed out, wouldn’t it?Yeah, of course. I think you look at the impact he’s had in recent weeks, since he came on in the Barnsley game, and since then, he’s obviously been building up his minutes and his match sharpness, and you see his goal the other night, we’ve seen him do that many times at this level.He gives us a real threat. I think there’s a few other moments where actually he got him down the side quite well, like the cross early on that he flashed across the box. He’s so intelligent with his movement and he’s done really well, and he’s someone that hopefully we can keep available.SC: Are there any other injuries to be aware of, or any players you might be able to welcome back? Nothing in terms of when you look at new injuries or anything, I think it’s probably more just seeing how people are in terms of physically going Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday in what’s been quite demanding games. So we have to assess, see where the lads are at, and then obviously make a decision on that balance of keeping bits of continuity, but also freshness as well, which is hugely important. So it’ll be a good opportunity to see the lads today.SC: When we spoke the other night, reflecting on the Lincoln game, you obviously had mixed emotions because a lot of the performance you liked, but obviously there’s the disappointment at that late equaliser. Now you’ve had a chance to reflect on it, ow do you see that one?Yeah, I think, especially in the first half, there were some good moments. In terms of how we defended, I thought out of possession—defending the box, defending crosses, dealing with that side of it — we did well.I think we caught them a little off guard, actually, when you look at how they’ve had a lot of success, it’s teams getting after them, opening up spaces for second balls and exposing people to direct play. Whereas, because we had a lot of bodies in the middle of the pitch, I thought we dealt with it quite well.The first half we showed some good moments attacking-wise. We’ll always want more control, and again, I thought we had a couple of phases, especially in the first half, where we sustained it in their half, got into good areas, and found that right blend and balance of attacking quickly and playing territory, but also keeping the ball in the right area of the pitch, which is in and around their box.Then, second half, naturally, you come out and it felt like we got pinned back in. They were chasing a goal, so they commit bodies further forward and become even more direct. We probably didn’t look after the ball as well as we’d like, or progress it up the pitch as well as we’d like. But to get so close is obviously why you get the other emotion on it as well.SC: I don’t want to make it sound like there hasn’t been a whole load of hard work over weeks and months that’s been put into it, but it did feel like, in the first half, things just seemed to click after a few games where you’ve been disappointed with some of the work on the ball…it just felt like it came together on Tuesday. Particularly against the league leaders, that must have been a relief, and encouraging for the rest of the campaign as well.Yeah, I’ve spoken about it a few times. We want a team that’s adaptable, that has variety, that’s unpredictable in how we play that. I genuinely believe it’s one of the hardest ways to coach teams, because you’re empowering the lads to make decisions and feel it in-game.We don’t want to just be a team that goes long, and we don’t want to be a team that just plays short. You want to make the right decision at the right time, which, when players have the licence to do that, naturally they’ll get it wrong sometimes. It’s our job then to coach them so they make the right decision more often than not, and to keep pushing them to do that.I think that’s what then becomes hard to play against. If you’re just direct, or you just play short, eventually teams will find you out and find a way of stopping you. For me, it’s that variety that I enjoy watching, that I think people enjoy watching, and that’s what we saw in the first half the other night—a real variety in what we did.SC: And as you sort of touched on, is it just a matter of having that little bit more composure on the ball if you’re under the cosh, if you’re ahead in the second half against a good team—and you’ll be playing plenty of good teams over the next few weeks — is it just a matter of keeping that composure and having the confidence to try and relieve the pressure when you get the ball?Yeah, definitely — and that is easier said than done sometimes, especially because they commit so many bodies forward to press, leaving spaces in behind them, so we end up countering quite quickly. Then, rather than maybe coming out, allowing people to join the attack and slowing it down a bit, because you’ve got lots of space and opportunities to go to goal, we go early.There were a couple of instances — Kas, Marcus, Alfie— where there were counter-attacking moments and, because they’re such a hard-working team in terms of getting back behind the ball, we’ve then lost it and ended up defending the counter-attack.So I think it’s one of those: the lads put in the right shift the other night, and it’s about how you manage those moments when you’re ahead a little bit, or when the opposition change what they do, how do you adapt what you do to keep controlling the game in the way you want, which for us is primarily with the ball? This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comIt feels only appropriate to some of Huddersfield Town’s recent performances that we have to present to you a rather disjointed episode of the We Are Terriers podcast, with David Hartrick (kidney) bravely coming off the bench briefly to offer his thoughts on the 0-0 draw against Port Vale and the 2-2 stalemate against Lincoln City.Is there any excuse fo…

Below are selected highlights from Monday afternoon’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed, including Lasse Sorensen’s thoughts.… Adam Pope (BBC Radio Leeds): You said [after the game on Saturday] that you threw every attacking option that you had with you on the day to try and get over the line, but the attacking options didn’t include Alfie May. Obviously, you’ll be asked about a guy that’s a proven goalscorer. You had a conversation with him [on Friday, then] he doesn’t get involved…I mean, how does that conversation go, and how’s he reacted?Alfie was first-class today, and he’s back in contention for tomorrow. I think it’s one of those: he’s had a very bitty start since we’ve been here, obviously, with the red card, wrongly so, then obviously being ill as well. So it’s been very bitty for him, and I had a good chat with him on Friday, about certain bits.I thought was excellent in training today, and he comes into contention for tomorrow,AP: In terms of how that’s perceived, you can understand why people might feel ‘but why isn’t he involved at all, even if it doesn’t start?’. Are you able to sort of cast any light on that?Yeah, there’s certain bits, I think, that are better off kept in-house.There’s no major issue on it. He’s trained OK, I think it’s one of those where there’s competition, we need people at their absolute maximum, and Alfie has shown that today…I thought he was excellent today in training.There’s certain bits behind the scenes that, like I said, there’s no issues whatsoever, which I know people will jump to straight away. Have a terrific relationship with Alfie, and like I said, expect to see him soon.AP: Is that one of the hardest things to manage: you know the reality, and you know what people are saying, but you’re the manager and you’ve got to make the decisions. Is that one of the hardest things — making decisions but not always being able to say maybe exactly what you want to say?Look, my number one thing is to make sure that I manage the group and try to pick a team to win the game, and I think the biggest bit within that is we make sure that we hold the highest standards in the culture that we create and how we communicate, how we work, what we look like day to day.So, of course, there’s certain bits that if you’re a family, that you do keep in-house, and there’s other bits that you can talk around, and there’s other bits that you’ll talk around that will get changed in terms of how people perceive it and read into things. There’s genuinely nothing to read into, and like I said, Alfie is in contention for tomorrow.… Steven Chicken (We Are Terriers): There were individuals on Saturday, like Cameron Humphreys, who was much more forward looking, much more willing to take risks. Is it now just about, ‘right, we’ve got some players doing that, and we’ve had moments where we’ve done that, and it’s now just finding more consistency across the 11 players and across the 90 minutes to show that intent’?Yeah, very much so, very much so. That’s the message: in the right areas, be brave, take risks, ask questions. I spoke to him today about it, actually: the ball that Cam Humphreys played over the top for Ryan Hardie in the second half, there were a couple of moments where we could have done it against Rotherham.Afterwards, we sat showing the video and said ‘look, be brave, take the risk there, play it’.That’s what we do behind the scenes. That’s constant, whether it be Martin [Drury], Steady (Jon Stead), [James] Krause and Chris [Elliott]: all the coaches behind the scenes are grabbing players to show the opportunities where we could play forward and don’t; or to be brave enough, is it the psych aspect, is it mentally being brave enough to take the risk and [not worrying about it going wrong?Sometimes it’s not easy, and it’s about when you feel the energy and the atmosphere on you, how do you stay level? How do you keep those strong behaviours and take the risk at the right time?… SC: You always go over to the fans after a game to applaud them, and you didn’t get a particularly nice response on Saturday. Is that something you need to manage with the lads as a coach? Do you understand where it comes from? And does it just make you feel more like you’ve got a point to prove in the next game?Of course, it’s not nice. We want a strong connection and I think first and foremost, we want the fans on board, and we want them to get behind us, which they have done many times here since I’ve been here. If the lads leave it all out there, I’ll always defend them. I think if it comes down to quality, if it comes down to tactical things, things we can be better at. But we have to control what we can.I think the biggest thing we can control is mentally, where we’re at; the preparation we do for tomorrow; and it comes back to the behaviours and the culture we just spoke about a minute ago, and making sure that we transfer the strong culture we’ve got off the pitch onto the pitch. We need to show a real bravery tomorrow night, and go and show an aggression, a purpose and intent to play forward, like we did at the weekend. I think that’s the starting point to get the fans on board. Naturally, I think the challenge for anybody is — same as the players — rather than kind of turn up and wait to see what happens from the start, take responsibility. That’s the message: turn up and get right behind it.And that’ll be the message for the players: turn up, don’t wait to see what happens and then respond…go and grab the game the second the first whistle goes, and go and be the more dominant team on the pitch, and the more dominant team off the pitch in the stands. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

Below are selected highlights from Wednesday afternoon’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed, including Antony Evans’ contribution.Adam Pope (BBC Radio Leeds): After his illness, is Alfie May fit to play at the weekend?Alfie is fit, he’s trained all week, so that’s good news. He’s trained well. We’ve pushed the lads the past couple of days so it’s been a good few days to see the lads on the grass working hard. AP: What’s Lynden Gooch’s situation?Yeah, we’re starting to integrate now. The weekend will be too early for him, but he’s definitely moving in the right direction.AP: Anybody else fit for action or not fit for action that you can tell us about?[Radinio Balker] is unfortunately going to be probably best the part of four weeks with an adductor injury. It’s disappointing. I think he’d obviously put a run of games together and was performing well, so it’s disappointing to lose him, but it’s part and parcel, unfortunately, of the programme that we run and the schedule and the game. So yeah, disappointed to lose him, but it means obviously someone else needs to step up. AP: The chairman issued last night a big rallying cry on his social media to the supporters, basically saying ‘get down and support us’ in a nutshell — how do you feel about that when you hear the chairman do that?I think start with the chairman’s agenda, and I think what can never be questioned is the support, the backing, his intention for the club. I think he’s desperate to be successful here, the same as we all are.I think we’ve all got the same goal, and I think sometimes you get bumps along the way and different challenges. I think we all want to achieve the same thing, and any club that, for me, has any level of success is when everybody’s pulling in the same direction.So again, I think going to the final stage of the season with ten to go, it’s definitely that: let’s all leave everything out there. And again, I think that for me, when I look at the teams, that have done it in the past, it’s when you’ve got that unity and that force from all angles, whether it be from the stands, whether it be on the pitch, whether it be from the senior leaders at the club, the owner…it’s that collective.We all want to do well, trust me, we all want to go out and perform to the highest level and play to our best, and produce a style that entertains the fans as well as winning and getting points as well. We want to try and tick everything, which is challenging at times, it’s difficult, especially when you’ve had transition and change, etc.But for me, I think we’re in a position where we’ve still got so much to play for, so let’s leave it all out there and let’s make sure that in the final ten that we give absolutely everything.Steven Chicken (We Are Terriers): I think a lot of the fans’ objection on Saturday was a bit of a feeling that there was a lack of endeavour from the team. We spoke on Saturday about being man marked out of the game, there weren’t a lot of options all the time — but I think it made the fans feel the intentions of the team weren’t clear. Is that something you’ve worked on this week when it comes to the on the ball work?Yeah, definitely. I watch every game back once, sometimes twice, I'm terribly obsessive, and I totally get it.I think there’s little moments in the game where we definitely [struggle]. That’s the challenge of when you’ve had such a short period and you’re trying to evolve. The team when we came here had scored loads of goals and conceded loads of goals, so you might want to make it a bit harder to beat. You lose some of the goal scorers, you can only concentrate your efforts in certain areas, and personally, I think we’ve got better defensively across the games that we’ve been here.Some of the expense of that is probably some of the attacking stuff. I watched us at the weekend, and at moments we turned down opportunities to go forward, definitely. They’re the bits [we need to work on], I think, and then it’s tough sometimes.It’s never through a lack of intent or will or wanting to do well. It’s the challenge that you have, and that’s why with the coaching behind it, it’s so important to show them pictures and say ‘right, why have we gone square or back there when we could play forward? Why have we thrown it back when we could go forward? Why have we gone square when we could cross it in the box?’It’s affecting the bravery and the risk taking, and naturally I think sometimes when there’s an edge, there’s an uneasiness to it, in every walk of life, it’s not easy to be brave, and there’s an element of pressure, and you feel that little bit.So for me, it’s very much giving the lads the confidence to go and do that, go and take risks and be brave, and if it doesn’t come off, then correct it by responding in the right way — positive body language, working hard, all the bits that I bang on about I think in most interviews. [If we’re going to get it wrong then] let’s get it wrong by taking the risk of being brave and not by shying away from it. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comIt was hard to go away from Huddersfield Town’s 1-0 win over Rotherham United without three main takeaways: 1) it was really boring, 2) the Terriers were very lucky to get the win, and 3) a better side than relegation strugglers Rotherham would have won that game.Yes, there’s a defensive improvement, their home results have been strong (even if the perf…

Below are selected highlights from Wednesday afternoon’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed, including Murray Wallace’s contribution.Results elsewhere last night didn’t go for you, so you have slipped down to seventh place. Does that change anything now that you’re chasing and not being hunted down?Look, I think I was fully aware when I came in the position the club were in. You’re at the stage of season where teams are catching up their games in hand, so I think when we joined, we could have been 13th if they’d all the game in hand around us. I thought the start we had gave us a bit of consolidation, but we’ve not done well enough on the road recently, which we’re quite honest about. So for me, I can’t focus too much attention on that. We have to make sure that we pick up points, and that starts on Saturday. We’ve been unbeaten here since we’ve come in, the lads have been great, the fans have been great here, we’ve made it a tough place to come. Especially going into the run-in, we’re going to need to continue doing that and beyond it. And then, of course, on the road, we have to address that and make sure that we pick up wins away.Personnel wise, we haven’t seen Bobby Wales for a while. Is there a reason behind that? Is it tactical? Is it fitness?Just competition at the minute, and to be fair he’s trained much better this week in terms of he’s shown some really good attributes. We’ve obviously had Alfie back around it, Hardie coming back, so we’ve got competition in the squad. And to be fair to Bobby, my job is obviously to manage that, to communicate with the lads, to explain why, to support them and have the staff around to support them to do what they need to. Then it’s about raising your level, and when you look at, say, the performance last week, it gives the opportunity for other people potentially, so that everybody needs to know they’re under pressure to deliver the second the game starts.Usual question on Bojan Radulovic — is he still on track to come back as scheduled?Yes. The good news is he’s been out= doing really low-key stuff. He’s still a few weeks away, but he’s definitely heading the right direction.It was the the challenge of January in terms, when you look at what the team lost, from the goal perspective, so to have someone like him back will be massive, but we want to get him back, and keep him back, of course.I think you’ve seen with Ryan Hardie that we will take risk. We’re at that stage of the season where we’ve got so much to play for that we’ve thrown him in arguabl a couple of weeks ahead of where he should be, so we’ve had to be a little bit smart with how we’ve managed him.It will be similar with Bojan: we’ll see how he goes and see what risks we can take. Naturally, I tend to push to get him back as quick as I can, because obviously he was someone who was big part why I joined and someone I was really looking forward to working with, and someone that obviously has had such a strong season at the level. So yeah, we want to get him back as soon as we can. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comHuddersfield Town’s problems away from home continued as they fell to a thoroughly uninspiring 1-0 defeat away to Wigan Athletic.That has put the We Are Terriers podcast in the mood to dole out a paddling to a side that let the game get away from them as they ended up more worried about what a bottom-half side might do to them than they were about creat…

Below are selected highlights from Wednesday afternoon’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed, including Lee Nicholls’ contribution.Liam ManningCan we start with just a quick reflection on Saturday, everyone who was involved, did they come through all OK, you happy with where the squad’s at? Yeah, I’m happy where the squad’s at, definitely. I’m trying to think now, Saturday feels like a long time ago because we’ve had training time, which is rare!The group’s in a good spot. I think it was a strong performance and a strong result at the weekend, which was much needed, and I’m really pleased for the lads in terms of how they went about the game and had to respond from being a goal behind to win. That’s obviously a new experience for the group since I’ve been here, but I think it’s something that hadn’t been done a huge number of times this season.That’s definitely something that will stand us in good stead in the final games going into it, and that belief that we can do it and we know how to do it, you know, I think was a real big positive.How’s Mickel Miller doing?He’s back in training now. After Stevenage, he’d rolled his ankle and it swelled up quite a bit, but it’s settled, he’s training, and he seems in a much better spot.You’re away from home this weekend, and Town have only won five on the road this season. How do you go about replicating those performances that we’ve seen at home, on the road, and find a bit more consistency?They’re different challenges, right? Stevenage is a really good example, when you look at the setup, the pitch…there’s so many other factors which are a part of it.It’s more in terms of understanding, like at Peterborough, how do we impose ourselves on the game? So home or away, it’s that same feeling. The home form has to underpin everything, but then on the road, of course, it’s a case of, how do we go and impose ourselves on Wigan at the weekend? How do we go and find a way to win? Ultimately, that’s the challenge.Joe Taylor is in a real purple patch of form. Is there any part of you, Liam, and I know you can’t control it specifically. You’re a little bit envious that he’s over at Wigan at the moment!Yeah, of course, he’s scoring goals, right?I spoke to Joe on the phone a few weeks ago. I thought it was really important for him to know that I was going to track him, keep an eye on him, I picked up the phone and spoke with him, and said ‘look, go and show what you can do, go and perform’.So yeah, I’m really pleased for him, first and foremost, to go out and to do what he’s done. For us, there is a frustration that we haven’t got him, but there’s an element of positive side where he’s doing well, but know he’s ours for the future still.For any front player, when they’re scoring goals, they’re at their most confident. It’ll be great for Joe, and I’m obviously pleased he can’t play at the weekend, but beyond that I hope he does well for him personally but also for us when he comes back in the summer. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comHuddersfield Town put in a miserably listless performance in defeat to Doncaster on Tuesday night, but brought their winless run to an end with a comeback victory over Barnsley on Saturday afternoon.Does Ryan Hardie offer hope Town can now get back on track? Should Cameron Ashia be starting games? And what shape is best for the Terriers in the coming we…

Below are selected highlights from Monday afternoon’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed, including Cameron Humphreys’ contribution.Liam ManningWe’ll start with team news, unfortunately, and ask for an update on Marcus McGuane after he came off on Saturday?Yeah, there’s a slight strain, but it’s looking at probably two to three weeks, which is good news, to be fair — naturally, when you go off that early and looking how he did, you worry. But fortunately it’s only a slight strain.You’ve got a couple of options, I know Antony Evans was involved on the bench and came on against Doncaster in the Trophy — is he getting closer to being involved in the league?Yeah, very much so. He’s in a good spot. He’s definitely one that is close to being in contention, so it’s good to have him back. I think he’s shown some real quality in training, and he’s only going to continue to improve the more work we get into him.Everyone else who was involved down at Stevenage all come through OK?Yeah, [Mickel Miller] is the other one — he’s rolled his ankle. He was limping around a bit, I think, it was quite clear from the sidelines, so he’s struggling a bit with that. But apart from, apart from that, no other major issues. How do you reflect on Saturday, then, a few days on?It’s a tough one to break it down. I think even watching it back, it such a hard place to go, but I think what you have to do is make the game look how you want. If you try and play them at their game, they’re used to doing it and will come out on top, which is probably what happened second half.I thought first half, the first 10 minutes were under a little bit of pressure, but then I thought we did a really good job, especially last 15 minutes of the first half, of wrestling control back and playing in their half. There’s some decent half-chances, some corners, some territory, playing around their box, rather than our half. But in the second half we never really got going in terms of imposing our style on the game. We tried to play them at theirs, and like you see, we ended up coming out second best at that.But even then, it’s probably more the frustration, the manner of the goal, I think, feels like it was an us rather than [Stevenage]. We were five minutes away from taking a hard=earned point, albeit with a difficult performance in a difficult setting against a difficult team. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comHuddersfield Town had a week to forget as they crashed out of the Vertu Trophy at the quarter-finals and suffered their first defeat of Liam Manning’s tenure, away to Stevenage.What went wrong for the Terriers across the two games? And did the head coach get his setup wrong against Stevenage, or did the players let him down, was it a little of both — an…

Below are selected highlights from Wednesday afternoon’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed, including Marcus McGuane’s contribution.Louis Reynolds (BBC Radio Leeds): I know it’s only a few hours on, but we’ll just start with how are you feeling about last night now that you’ve slept on it?Well, or not slept on it, is the case.I went back last night and watched it back.To be fair, naturally, I think you get a real low after the way we lost it on penalties, and how the penalties went, etc, so that obviously doesn’t help the emotion and the feeling.So I always like to go back and watch it analyse and I get the analytical side, but I also get the emotional side, which I think is important. So, yeah, really disappointed. I think when you watch it back — and probably my feeling that I spoke about in here last night was probably quite accurate — I thought we had some really, really good passages and good control, restricted them to one shot on target the whole game [and that was their penalty], and then loads of the ball, but probably not enough conviction or purpose first half.Then second half, they had more of the ball, but all in front of us and in their half of the pitch. For me, we carried a real threat, and their keeper has made three, four excellent saves.We’ve had some other terrific opportunities: the Dion [Charles] one, Alfie [May]’s off a set piece. We’ve had numerous good opportunities.That’s why, when I step back, I think if you play that game ten times over, you don’t finish 1-1 in most of them. I think with the chances we created and the performance, I think you win a lot more. So that’s the bit that we have to take from it. It doesn’t mean that we accept losing, because I don’t like it, but at the same time, another way we look at it is if we continue to perform like that and create the chances we did and restrict them to one shot on target, we’ve got a much greater chance of winning those games again in the future.LR: What have you learned over the last few days about a group of players that is still relatively new to you?I think it’s continuous learning about the team, learning about individuals, learning about the culture. It’s only been three weeks, madly. It feels a lot longer with probably how the games have gone and the stress we’ve all gone through and the toll it’s taken on us.But they’re the bits where you learn a lot about the group. And I think last night’s another one from behind, come back to 1-1, penalties...it’s [learning] how the lads have coped with those situations.It’s constant, and I don’t think you ever go ‘right, I’m finished learning about the group’. We challenge them and we push them and we coach them, and our job is to stretch them and take them outside their comfort zone, and reflect on experiences like we’ve had. It’s a continuous process that never stops. We’re constantly learning about the lads and constantly trying to push them to become better, ultimately.LR: Can I ask you about Cam Ashia — just how impressed have you been since you’ve come to the club with him as a young player? I spoke about Cam, I think it was yesterday…I’ve done a lot of press recently, so forget when it was.But I spoke about Cam in terms of a really exciting, really high potential player. I think the challenge naturally with young players, and having spent many years myself in player development, is knowing what it takes in terms of turning really high potential into consistent performances. He gets you off your seat, he excites me. I like watching it when he gets the ball, because you’re not sure what’s going to happen. He puts fear into defenders and puts them on the back foot, and he can produce moments that we as coaches mustn’t stifle. I think that’s really important. We give scope for creativity and, at the right times and in the right area to pitch, for players to express themselves. I’m big on that.Then around it, there’s non-negotiables that if you want to be a strong team and you want to be relentless with winning games and be successful at the level, you need everybody to contribute.Those are the bits that I think, naturally, sometimes with young players, you need to keep working out and you need to keep doing video work and having conversations. But look, he’s someone that we really like, he’s someone that’s done extremely well in the last two games, and I’m sure he’s going to continue to contribute over the next 15.Steven Chicken (We Are Terriers): Is there a chance Ryan Hardie might be in contention for this weekend?Too early. He’ll be training next week, so it’s a little early for Saturday [against Stevenage or] Tuesday [against Doncaster], but in terms of expecting him back with the group training: back end of next week. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

Liam ManningKatherine Hannah (BBC Radio Leeds): Just to check on some team news, first of all, for tomorrow, you talked about Sean Roughan and Jack Whatmough getting a bit closer — are they in contention, potentially?For Jack it’s a little bit early. Sean and [Antony] Evans are two that are in contention to be involved in slightly different capacities with where they’re at and what stages and how long they’ve obviously been out on back training. So they’re two that come back into contention.KH: And am I right in thinking still too soon for Ryan Hardie?Too soon, but he was on the grass this morning doing some good work. He’s progressing well, to be fair — it was nice to see him out striking a few balls this morning.KH: Alfie May is not suspended for the Trophy. Do you see this as an opportunity to get him some minutes and keep him ticking over until he’s available for League One again?Yeah, naturally, I think it makes sense, obviously, given the spread of the ban and how that looks. It’s no secret that it’s quite likely he’ll play, to be honest. So yeah, we can keep him in ticking over which, which helps when you’re naturally going to miss a few weeks, to be able to put a good level game in. Obviously, it will definitely benefit him, and obviously keep him in a better spot when he’s able to return. KH: Do you see the Doncaster game then as an opportunity to give minutes to players who’ve not had the opportunity to feature? I think the first thing to probably put out there is that we want to win. I think that whatever team we decide, it will be to win the game. You create a culture, and anything I do, I want to win, whether it be with my seven year old son at home, whether it be a pre-season game, whether it be a league match — for me, that you can’t turn that on and off.So it’s something that we have to have in our culture, where we’re hungry to win, and hungry to step up and progress in this competition. Then it’s picking a team that I think is able to do that. With the depth we’ve got, with the competition, with I think what we’ve seen in the four games we’ve done so far in changing personnel with subs coming on and having an impact…we have got some depth. We’ve got some people that have given me some good headaches during games with the impact they’ve had coming off the bench, or people that have started.So, yes, one of those where we’ll try and find the right blend and balance, and we’re fortunate in that position where we can make some changes and still maintain strength.KH: Will Alves is somebody who’s not had much of an opportunity under your stewardship as yet. What does he need to be doing more of to be pushing for an opportunity back in the first team?I’ve sat with Will and had a chat around this situation.He’s someone I really like. I think he’s been quite unfortunate, if you look at the flow and the context of the games — the first two were red cards, and the profile of player Will is, we’ve obviously gone for a Lasse in midfield because of the defensive qualities when you’re down to 10 men.So he’s definitely been a little bit of a victim of our first four games, in terms of what we’ve needed in-game to see a game out or to get it over the line. He’s trained really well, his attitude has been fantastic, he will get opportunities. He’s someone that, let’s be really clear, I do like, and I think is someone that will have impact between now and the end of the season, and he’s just got to be ready when that opportunity arises.KH: It would be easy to sulk, wouldn’t it, as a young player, you’re desperate to get your opportunity. But from what you’ve said there, that doesn’t sound like how he’s reacted to it at all.Definitely not, and that’s something that we can’t allow in our culture. Nobody, nobody will ever be bigger than the team. For me, we can’t allow that. We won’t have it in terms of disappointments. Disappointment’s OK, because you want people that care [if they’re not playing], but then ultimately, when you then train on a Friday, your job is to get your teammates ready for the Saturday, so you can’t sulk because you’ll be letting the people around you down.We’re only as strong as our weakest link. It’s a bit of a cliche, but very true. So I think it’s really important, and Will epitomises [what we want] in terms of how he’s gone about it: he’s got his head down worked.Cam Ashia, again, you see, obviously comes on [and scores against Blackpool], hadn’t featured in the first three, and things change quickly for him.All the lads can control is being ready, and by not reacting and not training and not doing things in the right way, that gets you further from the team. Trust me, if anyone doesn’t do it properly, they won’t be involved.Mickel MillerKH: The league is set aside for the time being, because it’s Vertu Trophy tomorrow night, and that’s something that you’ve had great previous experience with —you’ve been all the way to Wembley twice with both Rotherham and with Plymouth.Now that we’re at the quarter finals, do you sense a slight shift in emphasis with this competition, where it starts to get a little bit more serious as that possibility of going to Wembley again comes a little bit closer? Oh, definitely. I always said that this, once you start off in this cup and it’s at the group stages, everyone thinks, ‘ah, it’s just the Papa John’s Trophy’, or whatever.But as soon as you get to the quarters and you know you’re like, two games away from Wembley, it all changes. Everything shifts. We’re in it and it’s a great opportunity to go and do something again this season, along with the league. It could turn a good season into a great season, so it’s exciting.KH: You can’t overlook an opportunity to play at Wembley, an opportunity to lift a trophy. There’s not many players that get that opportunity, are there? So you can’t dismiss it.No, 100%. I just think that being a player myself and being around loads of players, you see how many players actually go through their careers and don’t actually win anything, and obviously me actually winning something, I’m so grateful. I see this opportunity that we have as players at Huddersfield, it’s a cracking opportunity to go out there and put our mark down at Huddersfield, and give the fans something, give ourselves something, our families — everyone that’s supporting us and been rooting for us. So like I said, it’s a great opportunity to go and do something.KH: And success breeds success, so progress in this trophy can only be a good thing for feeding into the rest of the league campaign, can’t it?No, exactly that. It’s just about building momentum. So the more we keep winning, the more we do well in the cup, we go and win the cup that this carries on to into the league. So it’s just yeah, it’s about building.SC: You’ve talked about that spirit and how hard it is to come back from adversity…you’ve had significant adversity in all four games under the new gaffer. Does that come from the new gaffer? Is it that replacing Lee [Grant] was that just a bit of a spur for the players? Is it a bit of everything?I think it’s hard to pinpoint. Like, you say ‘is it the change of gaffer’ and stuff like that…I don’t really want to get too much into that, but all I know is that it’s just that anywhere, when new people come in, everyone has to basically prove themselves again.So the new gaffer coming in, he’s great tactically, he gives us loads of information, drives the standards high. I’m not saying Lee didn’t do that, he did that as well, but I just think it’s that other side now that everyone is literally playing for their shirt again, everyone needs to prove themselves to someone again. So it naturally raises everyone’s game.SC: Just going back to that game at the weekend…I don’t want to take any credit at all away from the comeback, because I think maybe a few weeks ago, you don’t get back into that one. But is there a bit of a sense, when you reflect on it, that you shouldn’t have been two goals down? What’s the meetings been like with the gaffer in the days since?I think we look at it from a point of view that it was basically a good thing out of a bad situation. Of course we’re not happy with the point. We’re at home, we’re literally hard to beat at home, and it’s our stomping grounds, so no one should be able to come here and score two goals that they did.But you know, being in that situation, getting a point from no points, that’s how we’re looking at it, and it’s just about sticking out the positives and rather than negatives. We’ve sat down and we’ve gone through the goals and stuff like that, and the gaffer has made it clear. He speaks to us collectively, points out individuals if they need to be pointed out, and we’ve gone over that, and we’ll learn from it and move forward. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comHuddersfield Town rescued a point from two goals down on a day of both positive and negative lessons for head coach Liam Manning to take away.We discuss the changes Manning made, why things didn’t work in the first half, and what changed to help Town get things back on track.Plus, we talk about the new arrivals and departures on transfer deadline day.If…

Below are selected highlights from Wednesday afternoon’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed.Jack Conlon (BBC Radio Leeds): I’ll start with the three extra additions on deadline day. I’ll start with Bobby Wales and Ryan Hardie first — just how pleased are you to get those over the line and what are they going to offer?Yeah, delighted with them, but also the business I think that was done in January with the additions that were made. Starting with Bobby, he’s one that we’ve been tracking a little while, to be fair, and done a decent amount of work on, so I had a decent understanding of him. So again, I think he’s a good addition for us.Then obviously Ryan as well, he’s someone that I’ve coached against numerous times, and I know what qualities he brings and how proven he is at the level. Obviously, with Bojan [Radulovic] getting injured, we knew it was an area of pitch that we needed to add to in terms of not just depth, but also quality as well, which I’m delighted we’ve been able to do. JC: On the flip side, Ruben Roosken and Herbie Kane leaving the club — what’s the rationale behind those decisions?I think there are two aspects. I think Herbie, when you look at it, obviously coming back from an injury…I had a good chat with Herbie. I like him, I like some of his qualities, but I was quite straight and honest with him, I think, in terms of game time might be quite tough to come by, just given the volume of players that we’ve got in there. Naturally, when you come in you go with people, and he’s working back to fitness, so there was people ahead of him. So for me, then the decision, do you keep him around for the final third of the season to be part of it, or actually, do we go right, ‘let’s get fit, let’s game some minutes, let’s have a good look at him playing games and and see how he does on that?’ So that was the decision there.And similarly, I think Ruben, when you look at it, he wasn’t making squads with Bali [Mumba] coming in, and [Mickel Miller back again].I think it was a terrific opportunity for the club as well, and that was ultimately the decision that we made in terms of us being really happy with what we’ve got, and at the same time, the deal was really, really good for us.JC: How do you rate the window overall and the squad you’ve been left with, albeit, I appreciate you were only here for half of it?Really pleased, really pleased, with first and foremost, what was here.I came here to work with a group that was here currently, and I’ve been really pleased with how the group we’ve got has responded. Then if you if you go through it and what we’ve managed to add in terms of slight differences in profile and physicality, which I think the group needed.So, yeah, I’ve been really pleased with the window, and the biggest bit is I’m pleased with the squad we’ve now got going into the final three months of the season.Steven Chicken (We Are Terriers): You’ve actually got two centre forwards this weekend, with Bobby in as well [as Dion Charles]. Is it a case for you now weighing up whether you want them both on from the start or you want one from the bench so you can switch them out?I can’t be telling you what I’m thinking before a game!No, of course. We obviously spoke last week around what I felt we needed, and that was obviously an area to pitch that we needed options. That’s why I quite like, if you look at the three that we’ve got, Ryan [Hardie] is obviously back [from injury] soon, but with Ryan, with Bobby, with Dion, I think you’ve got three different types, different profiles, which maybe we can cause the opposition, different problems in different ways.So whether it be one up, whether it be two up, I think we’ve already shown in games that we’re happy to change and we’re not fixed and set on it that it has to be one up top. You want elements of the players to be fluid. So I’m delighted that we’ve got a variety of profiles at that end of the pitch, and it gives me different options and different ways of using them. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.weareterriers.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.weareterriers.comLiam Manning’s winning start to life as Huddersfield Town head coach now stands at three games after victories over Luton and Peterborough, despite he Terriers having to fight back through adversity in both games.This week’s We Are Terriers podcast reflects on both victories, including our thoughts on Alfie May’s red card, Ryan Ledson’s sensational goal…

Below are selected highlights from Wednesday afternoon’s press conference. You can find the full audio above or in your We Are Terriers podcast feed.Liam Manning Adam Pope (BBC Radio Leeds): Alfie May is looking at a four game ban at the moment because of an early red card. Is there any thoughts of the appeal that was mentioned last night.Yeah, we’re going to appeal it, I think only on the grounds that there’s no intent. Speaking with Alfie and when you see it, we’re not questioning whether he pulled Kasey Palmer’s hair, but there was zero intent, it’s completely accidental. If you watch the video back, quite clearly, he’s trying to grab his shoulder and pull him back, which is part of football, the contact that comes with playing the game. But unfortunately, he’s grabbed it, he’s let go of it straight away, and then apologised afterwards, but I think he was put down with violent conduct. It was definitely not that. So for me, we’ve appealed it, and hopefully common sense prevails.AP: You also had an injury to Bojan Radulovic yesterday. How is he?Yeah, he’s a little bit sore this morning, he’ll have scans tomorrow.To know definitively what we’re dealing with, and the time frames on it, and everything that everybody want to know, we can’t really answer it until we know the outcome of that scan this tomorrow morning.AP: If you are to be without those two players at the weekend at Peterborough, have you seen enough to suggest that you can re-fashion the team in a way that can be as effective as it has been so far?I think you probably saw it for 70 minutes last night, right?I think that that’s what we have got. We have got depth. We have got options. We have got different profiles. We have got really high quality amongst the group. People forget it’s a 50-game season. You need the squad.I’m sure previously, other people were injured, and everyone’s asking same questions — ‘you’ve got this one missing’. But what we’ve got is people ready to step in.We trained this morning with the lads that didn’t play last night or weren’t involved, or some of the subs, and the session was top this morning. I thought the attitude, the behaviour, the competitiveness, the work this morning was excellent, and that then means people are ready to step in when called upon. I referenced David Kasumu Last night, someone that wasn’t involved at the weekend, then four days later, it’s on the bench because of how he applied himself in training on Monday. He comes on last night and does exactly what the team needs and puts in a really, really strong performance. That, for me, is the Football League. It can happen so quick when you’ve got so many games and injuries, suspensions, form, people hitting a hot streak…you need to put them in at the right time, the same as when someone’s having a dip, you might need to pull them out. And that’s why it’s it’s not the starting 11 always. It’s very much the depth for the 20-25 that you’ve got. Steven Chicken (We Are Terriers): The nature of the last couple of games you’ve not been able to use someone like Will Alves, who maybe in other circumstances you throw them on. Are you looking forward to getting the chance to play some of those players, if you can keep 11 men on the pitch? Yeah, I had a chat with will about it today, and he was excellent today in training. I thought his quality, as well as his attitude and application, were excellent.So, yeah, I’ve had that chat and it was pretty much what you just said there — you know, I really like some of the bits I’ve seen, be patient, stick at it, keep working hard and be ready when called upon.What I can’t do is tell him when that will be and again, I think that’s the kind of the same message for the whole group: be ready when you called upon, and then it’s on them to give me a headache.That’s what I liked across the last two games, even last night, with the subs coming on. Dion had such good impact and done exactly what we’ve needed in those moments, and that that’s what being a strong team is all about, having people that you know are ready when called upon.Bali MumbaAP: Liam’s managed to get off to a great start: two clean sheets, two wins. Where do you feel, after being with him for eight days now, he can improve you? What do you need to improve yourself?I feel like we’ve already started this morning, in fact. He pulled me in the office, we had a chat, just a general chat, just about life and stuff, how’s things going, and then we went into further details with the game and football and stuff. He’s one of the managers that’s willing to help you with your performance. He says it doesn’t really matter on whether it’s your strengths or your weakness, both of them — he’s willing to help you whether it’s something that you’re really quite good at, to get better at that and really hit a good level with that, or whether something that needs to be improved.He’s willing to do both jobs and help you improve as a player, which is always nice. So yeah, we did speak about that this morning in terms of just obviously positioning when defending and stuff like that, which is quite key. It’s something that we can obviously work on one at a time, and then before we move on to the next thing that we need to improve on. SC: Talking to Ryan Ledson the other day, said he feels like Liam has taken off a little bit under Lee. And do you feel like as an attacking player, he’s giving you that freedom?Yeah, 100%, every game. The last two games, in the team talks that we’ve had, the last thing he always says that sticks with me is he always says, ‘Be fearless’. He tells everyone you know, be fearless. That obviously goes a long way in terms of out of possession, in possession, just be fearless. Be you, express yourself. He’s not one of them that they will judge you by your mistakes or what you do, as long as it’s a positive action. That’s something that as a player, you want to hear — you want to go into the game knowing ‘I can try things, I can take a risk, because obviously the manager obviously wants me to play with that fearless mindset’. This is a public episode. 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