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Money is a constant contradiction. You’ve got to spend money to enjoy life but save every cent for the future.
It’s why Australians are caught between impossible expectations and an economic system that feels stacked against them. So, how do you keep up the juggling act when the stakes just keep getting higher?
In The Pay Off Sylvia Jeffreys sits down with leading experts and entrepreneurs to uncover tips and tricks from some of the sharpest business minds in the game.
You can listen to The Pay Off wherever you get your podcasts, or you can watch every episode on 9Now, search 'The Pay Off 9Now Podcast'
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From the high-stakes pressure of Silicon Valley’s dot-com boom to leading one of Australia's largest telecommunications giants through a national crisis, Kelly Bayer Rosmarin has navigated a career defined by massive shifts and "deep end" learning. In this insightful episode, the former Optus CEO joins Sylvia to discuss her new chapter as the head of Australian Unity and the hard-won lessons she’s gathered along the way.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
How more Australians can enter into the property market - how they can have dignified, secure housing that delivers good capital growth - is the multi-million dollar question.And it's one that Evan Thornley might have an answer to. In this episode, the tech pioneer, founder of LongView and co-founder of GoodStart, argues that while the system is fundamentally broken, there is a data-driven path to home ownership that is easier to access and better long term than the traditional means of being indebted to a bank. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why the family home remains the "single best investment in the history of the world" How analyzing 50 years of data across 11 million properties helps identify the specific types of homes that consistently outperform the market The potential held by shared equity and housing funds Evan's personal journey from a single-parent family to Silicon Valley success, why he’s now dedicated to fixing the housing ladder for the next generation and his own biggest lessons See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Sylvia sits down with Alice Stoltz from Domain—often called the "walking encyclopedia" of Australian real estate—to cut through the headlines and give you the data-driven truth about what’s happening right now. If you’ve been feeling "handcuffed" by interest rates or worried about the "choppy" nature of recent auctions, this is for you. In this episode: Which segment of the market is feeling the heat and what it signals for the rest of us. Why 1950s brick homes are becoming the gold standard for savvy long-term buyers. Which parts of the country hold the real value lies for families right now. What is affecting consumer confidence and how it's showing up at auctions Is it time to return to the "old fashioned" view of property? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
At 15, all Matt Moran knew is that he didn't want to be in school anymore. At 22, he had his first restaurant. And now, he has a name synonymous with success and excellence. Matt opens up about his humble beginnings, the reality of the high-pressure world of professional kitchens, and just how far a desire to work, to learn, to ask the right questions, to trust the right people - and above all to become obsessed - can take you.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Experts are calling this the worst fuel crisis in history.And despite petrol station closures and record costs to fill the tank, there are some effects that are still yet to be seen. Expert economist Evan Lucas helps break down exactly we could expect - the products we might see disappear from our supermarkets and stores, the downstream effects of $4+ per litre, how it could change policy and behaviour for good, and the situation's spooky similarities to what we saw during COVID. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In our teens, most of us are figuring out our laundry. But Andrea Horwood was launching a magazine that would define a generation: Australian Style. And she hasn't stopped since then. Andrea is the ultimate serial entrepreneur: from that legendary magazine to creating the Australian summer staple, Invisible Zinc, and the globally successful wellness brand, WelleCo. Andrea has an insider's perspective on what it takes succeed again and again - using research, finding potential, pioneering impactful new products and doing it all in a way you can be proud of.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Amidst the potential for unprecedented prices at the bowser and the checkout and likely increases to interest rates, Nine News Money Editor and consumer champion Effie Zahos tells us everything we need to know to stay financial afloat. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Asher Keddie is, without a doubt, one of Australia's most loved actors - a title earned by many relatable and heartfelt roles. But the time in her career that feels most powerful and rewarding is happening now. In this conversation, she tells Sylvia: How she learned about life on set Pivoting roles, backing yourself and finding a voice Going into a business partnership that is meaningful to her The power of giving back Proving those who doubt wrong See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
With actions in the Middle East wiping billions from the market and from super, what are the crucial things we should (or shouldn't) be doing right now? Chris Brycki, founder and CEO of Stockspot breaks it all down, including what is causing the volatility, how long it's likely to last, the biggest mistakes to make sure you avoid, as well as the potential opportunities that exist at this moment. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The panic you feel when checking your bank balance? The cycle of overspending or over-saving? It's not just about numbers—it's about the deep, unconscious money scripts running your life. Dr. Shefali Tsabary, the clinical psychologist, New York Times best-selling author, and revolutionary thinker famously endorsed by Oprah joins The Pay Off to talk about our approach to money. Dr. Shefali shares how the ego dictates our decisions around debt, spending, and saving, how to conquer the paralysis of financial fear and how the emotional legacies of our childhoods shape our bank accounts today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Melissa Browne, author and financial expert, knows what it takes to build wealth as a woman on her own. But in the process, she encountered some barriers and obstacles that not only took her by surprise, but illuminated an insidious systemic problem faced by nearly all women. Mel not only shares her raw powerful and personal story, but the exact methods and actions she took to rebuild her wealth. She also talks about: why the financial world wasn't built with women in mind how gendered language and ideas still create roadblocks what true wealth really means the unseen costs of menopause a better kind of 'girl math' Find more from Mel, including her new book Dare to be Wealthy, hereSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
How do you win an Olympic medal when you’re locked in a dark room with a concussion? In this powerful and raw chat, one of our most successful Winter Olympians of all time discusses what it took to reach the summit of her sport, the challenges she overcame, the power of belief, the thing that was even harder than competition (that she’s even more proud of) and a confession of what her own lack of financial literacy cost her.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Sometimes the biggest secret to success isn’t a service or product, but about the strength of partnership. Scott and Elle Madden are the dynamic couple behind the fast-growing health and athleisure brand, FWD Form. This isn't your typical success story; it's a testament to resilience forged through fire. In today’s episode, these co-founders share the wild origin story of FWD Form, the financial and emotional challenges of being partners in life and business and why they prioritise consistency over quick-fix trends. They candidly share the impact of unexpectedly losing both their fathers within weeks and the difficult realities of grieving while running a company.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Grief isn’t the only cost of loss. Melissa Reader discovered this hard truth after living through the unimaginable: becoming a full–time caregiver to her husband, Mauro, whilst raising three young children and keeping their co–owned business afloat. This all came crashing down after Mauro passed away. In today’s episode, Melissa is here to confront the financial aftershocks of serious illness and death that most of us are completely unprepared for. Melissa Reader is the CEO of Violet, a national NFP helping families plan for the later chapters of life, and founder and CEO of Vera, a digital platform supporting families through the ageing journey. Her work sits at the intersection of care, technology and wellbeing, helping people navigate later life with greater clarity, dignity and confidence - long before crisis hits.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
If you’re a full-time working parent who often feels like you just don't have time for this, I implore you to make time for this episode. Kate Reeves and Gemma Pranita are the powerhouse hosts of the viral podcast We Don’t Have Time For This and are today's guests on The Pay Off. They’re two childhood best friends who turned their time-poor, opinion-rich dynamic into a booming business. We dive deep into the messy, glorious reality of working motherhood. Kate and Gemma share how they protected their friendship while building an empire, why they’re tired of being asked how they ‘juggle it all’ and their metrics for feeling rich in life. This chat is frighteningly relatable and is sure to give you a full body LOL. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
For many of us, crypto still feels like a foreign language — but not for today's guest. Jason Titman is the CEO of Australia's leading crypto exchange, SwyftX and joins The Pay Off to help demystify the world of digital currency. Jason, whose fascinating career spans from computer auditing and hotels to being a "King of Crypto," explains the tangible assets behind crypto and why the industry is shifting "from hoodies to suits." From the ‘typical investor’ to the relationship between crypto and traditional banks, Jason shares his two cents on the future of finance. He also discusses his investment mindset, why AI will never override human behaviour in financial markets and his most enduring business lessons. Disclaimer: The information contained in this episode is general in nature and does not take into account your personal objectives, financial situation or needs. Therefore, you should consider whether the information is appropriate to your circumstances before acting on it, and where appropriate, seek professional advice from a finance professional.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
You might feel like a hot mess, but your money habits don’t have to be. The financial fresh start you need for the new year is here and who better to kick this all off with than Emma Edwards, a certified financial behaviour specialist and founder of BROKE MEDIA. In this episode, Emma, a self-proclaimed hot mess millennial, breaks down the insights from her best-selling book Good With Money and shares the practical tools from her new journey, The Wardrobe Project. From better interrupting those automated spending habits to the savings dopamine hack you never thought was possible, you’re bound to walk away from this chat feeling in control of your finances. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Welcome to your masterclass for transforming extra income into lasting wealth. This "Best Of" episode is dedicated to unlocking the inside secrets from four incredible guests who successfully scaled their passion projects into full-blown, revenue-generating business empires! We've condensed hours of transformative interviews into a single, high-impact listen, giving you the proven playbooks and mindset shifts to make 2026 the year you become your own boss.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ready to make next year your most impactful yet? We've raided the vault for our most inspiring, business-shifting, and life-changing conversations of the year and distilled them into one powerhouse episode! Hear the best advice from Meggie Palmer, Molly Benjamin and Dr Rebecca Ray around talking about money, whether it's with your boss, your best mate or on a first date. This episode isn't just a look back—it's your clear-cut strategy for leaping forward into 2026.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Cashing in is great, but we think banking on yourself is even better. That terrifying plunge into entrepreneurship is real, but you shouldn’t let the fear of the unknown sideline your ambition. Today’s guest can attest to exactly that. Doone Roisin, founder of The Female Startup Club, is on The Pay Off this week giving a masterclass on being bold, building community, and beating the odds. In this episode, Doone opens up about her liberating decision to become a full-time entrepreneur, her slightly mischievous tactics for getting a CEO's attention and why she’s spending plenty of her time “talking to smart women”. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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