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While Breaking Change is a (mostly) solo act, other shows are gracious enough to host Justin Searls from time to time. This feed mirrors all those appearances. Questions, concerns, invitations? podcast@searls.co
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Quincy Larson over at freeCodeCamp had me on their podcast to discuss how the rapidly changing software industry is impacting junior developers and what they can do about it. I don't normally spend time talking about this stuff, because I started programming in the 90s and can't claim to know anything about what it's like to just be starting now. I've also always discouraged people from getting into software development unless they're super passionate about it, which has been out of step with the "learn to code" hype train that gathered steam over the last fifteen years only to run into a brick wall recently.
His audience is way larger and composed of quite different people than those who follow my stuff, so I strongly recommend you read every last YouTube comment. Some pretty crazy shit, if I'm being honest. Makes me glad I don't have 11 million subscribers.
Appearing on: freeCodeCamp Podcast
Published on: 2026-03-17
Original URL: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/there-are-2-kinds-of-devs-one-of-them-is-screwed-justin-searls-interview-podcast-210/
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Joe Leo and Valentino Stoll sat with me to talk about why I quit speaking and an exciting year of iteration on AI development workflows.
Appearing on: The Ruby AI Podcast
Published on: 2025-10-25
Original URL: https://www.therubyaipodcast.com/2388930/episodes/18044989-the-tldr-of-ai-dev-real-workflows-with-justin-searls
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Jared Norman interviewed me after he wrote about the order in which programmers choose to write their code and I offered this response. In this episode, we touch on this before launching into a more expansive discussion on why the agile movement fizzled out and what we can reclaim from a developer workflow perspective now that we're experiencing our first major market upheaval since then with the rise of coding agents.
Appearing on: Dead Code
Published on: 2025-09-09
Original URL: https://shows.acast.com/dead-code/episodes/fear-driven-everything-with-justin-searls
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Jerod and I sat down after WWDC to rifle through Apple's various announcements and dish our takes. As usual, we found a lot to like and (IMNSHO) did a better job than other commentators in ignoring the idle chatter on social media that tends to dominate WWDC discourse in favor of the more meaningful changes the keynote heralds.
You can find it on YouTube:
Appearing on: The Changelog
Recorded on: 2025-06-13
Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/97
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Had a blast, as usual, joining my Changelog friends for a vigorous discussion of Apple's Intelligence struggles and the tumultuous state of the software industry.
It's also on YouTube:
Appearing on: The Changelog
Recorded on: 2025-03-18
Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/85
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Recorded an episode of IndieRails with Jess Brown & Jeremy Smith live at Rails World 2024 in Toronto about my final talk and Becky's new app.
Appearing on: IndieRails
Published on: 2024-10-24
Original URL: https://www.indierails.com/45
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Was featured on Timothy Chaten's "Vision Pros" podcast, a show where the dozens of us dedicated Vision Pro users gather to chat about the fledgling platform.
Appearing on: Vision Pros
Published on: 2024-07-11
Original URL: https://visionpros.fm/2024/07/11/episode-19-justin-searls-from-breaking-change/
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Jerod, Adam, and myself chat about the ill-fated WWDC in which a more intelligent Siri would be forthcoming.
Appearing on: The Changelog
Recorded on: 2024-06-14
Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/48
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Jerod had me on The Changelog to talk about dependency management, and other nightmares.
Appearing on: The Changelog
Published on: 2023-11-17
Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/22
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The Changelog gang had me on to discuss my controversial post, "The looming demise of the 10x developer."
Appearing on: The Changelog
Published on: 2023-08-18
Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/11
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I threatened Jerod with a "You might not need React" screed (in favor of HTMX and Stimulus).
Appearing on: The Changelog
Published on: 2023-01-06
Original URL: https://changelog.com/podcast/521
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Matt Swanson interviewed me on his very creative YAGNI ("You Ain't Gonna Need It") podcast, which invites hosts to essentially roast conventionally-adopted tools as unnecessary. I chose RSpec.
Appearing on: YAGNI
Published on: 2022-11-21
Original URL: https://share.transistor.fm/s/4673c3ee
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Semaphore CI asked me on their podcast a few years back and Darko Fabijan interviewed me about scaling high-quality engineering.
Appearing on: Semaphore Uncut
Published on: 2022-03-22
Original URL: https://semaphore.io/blog/justin-searls-engineering-team
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Matt Swanson interviewed me on his very creative YAGNI ("You Ain't Gonna Need It") podcast, which invites hosts to essentially roast conventionally-adopted tools as unnecessary. I chose RSpec.
Appearing on: YAGNI
Published on: 2022-02-09
Original URL: https://share.transistor.fm/s/4673c3ee
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Brittany Martin interviewed me on the Ruby on Rails podcast to discuss my Mocktail gem.
Appearing on: The Ruby on Rails Podcast
Published on: 2021-11-10
Original URL: https://www.therubyonrailspodcast.com/391
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Gerhard Lazu interviewed me on the first season of Ship It!, where I (characteristically) decided to emphasize the importance of not shipping it.
Appearing on: Ship It!
Published on: 2021-08-25
Original URL: https://changelog.com/shipit/16
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JS Party hosted me for a chat about, what else, JavaScript.
Appearing on: JS Party
Published on: 2020-09-25
Original URL: https://changelog.com/jsparty/145
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Jason Swett had me on his show to discuss my take on software consulting.
Appearing on: Code With Jason
Published on: 2020-04-07
Original URL: https://www.codewithjason.com/podcast/9478276-039-talking-software-consulting-with-justin-searls-co-founder-of-test-double/
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Robby Russell had me on his podcast to discuss, among other things, the value in learning the fundamentals beneath whatever framework you're using.
Appearing on: Maintainable
Published on: 2019-10-14
Original URL: https://maintainable.fm/episodes/justin-searls-learn-to-understand-the-runtime-C6e05XWb
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Applitools used to have a podcast called "Testing Tools & Tips", but they appear to have completely scrubbed it from the Internet. Oh well!
Appearing on: Testing Tools & Tips
Published on: 2019-07-05
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