The 4th Wave in Therapy

Dr Larry Burk In this episode of the Fourth Wave in Therapy podcast, Dr. Peta Stapleton interviews Dr. Larry Burk, a holistic musculoskeletal radiologist, about the mind-body connection, particularly focusing on frozen shoulder and the emotions associated with it. They discuss Larry's personal journey into holistic healing, the role of emotions like anger and grief in physical ailments, and various healing modalities including EFT and expressive writing. The conversation also touches on the medical field's evolving perspective on mind-body healing and the significance of dreams in understanding our emotional health. Larry Burk, MD, CEHP, is a retired holistic musculoskeletal radiologist who now works as an online health coach and Certified Energy Health Practitioner. He trained in hypnosis in 1990. Dr. Burk did his medical school and radiology residency training at the University of Pittsburgh and a fellowship at the University of Pennsylvania. He was an associate professor of radiology and head of the musculoskeletal section at Duke University. He was co-founder and education director of Duke Integrative Medicine and took the UCLA Acupuncture for Physicians course in 1998. Larry learned Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT) in 2002 and has taught tapping at Duke Integrative Medicine since 2016. His EFT mentors are Carol Look and  Margaret Lynch Raniere. He facilitates the monthly Dream Study Group for the Rhine Research Center on Zoom. He has published three books, Let Magic Happen: Adventures in Healing with a Holistic Radiologist in 2012, Dreams That Can Save Your Life: Early Warning Signs of Cancer and Other Diseases in 2018, Frozen Shoulder Healing: Diagnostic Methods and Treatment Options in 2025. Details about his coaching practice, newsletters, blogs, and videos can be found on his website. Website: https://letmagichappen.com/.  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-larry-burk 

Dr Carol Look In this engaging conversation, Dr. Carol Look, a founding EFT master, shares her journey from traditional psychotherapy to energy psychology, emphasising the transformative power of EFT tapping and gratitude. The discussion explores the concepts of healing, anxiety, resistance, and family patterns, while highlighting the importance of finding one's own 'yes' and the scientific benefits of gratitude practices. Carol's insights provide valuable tools for therapists and clients alike, showcasing how tapping can facilitate emotional healing and personal growth. Dr Carol Look is a psychotherapist, Founding EFT Master, international speaker, and best-selling author of 2 books: The Yes Code: Transforming Sabotage into Success. and Yes, Thank You: Tapping Into the Superpower of Gratitude. Carol combines her traditional training as a psychotherapist with clinical hypnosis and advanced applications of EFT Tapping for unprecedented results with her clients. Known for her laser-like focus and state-of-the-art approach, Carol has used EFT Tapping for over 25 years to help clients release their limiting beliefs and emotional conflicts so they can enjoy lives of exceptional success and fulfilment. Carol is a world-renowned EFT workshop presenter and has taught workshops in England, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, Ireland, Canada, Australia, and all over the United States. She is a regularly featured energy medicine expert on leading global tele-summits, and is featured as a top expert in the field’s leading documentaries. For more on Carol’s programs, visit www.CarolLook.com. Websites: www.carollook.com www.theyescode.com https://www.carollook.com/blog/ https://www.carollook.com/abundance-store/  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-carol-look 

Celina Tonkin In this episode, Peta Stapleton interviews Celina Tonkin about her personal journey with a Desmoid tumor and how she utilized Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT) to navigate her health crisis. They discuss the emotional challenges faced during diagnosis, the role of tapping in managing anxiety and pain, and the insights gained from her experiences. Selena shares her reflections on the importance of addressing childhood trauma and the transformative power of EFT in her healing process. Celina Tonkin, is a powerful Coach who has combines her 15 years’ experience as Hypnotherapist, Neuro-Linguistic Programming Trainer, to successfully coach and empowered hundreds of people to move from being stuck in dysfunctional personal and business relationships, overeating, debt, poverty mentality, to having freedom and power in these areas. Celina’s passion is working with otherwise persistent and difficult issues and developing and utilising proven programs to facilitate powerful results in these areas. Her flagship program, “The Missing Link, as an extension of the program EFT and Food Cravings, designed by my friend and mentor, Dr Peta Stapleton, who is an Associate Professor at Bond University and the leading world researcher in EFT and weight management. She has also co-written a book, with Dr Peta Stapleton, “EFT for Introverts” - to enable introverts to emerge from hiding and show up powerfully in this world all the while feeling safe and congruent to their own values. Website: https://celinatonkin.com/  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/celina-tonkin 

Emma Gray In this episode, Dr Peta Stapleton interviews Emma Gray, a clinical psychologist and meditation teacher, about her mission to support women in discovering their soul's calling. Emma shares her personal journey, the tools she uses to help clients overcome self-doubt, and the integration of science and spirituality in therapy. They discuss common limiting beliefs that hold women back, the importance of self-care, and Emma's aspirations for the future. Emma Gray is a bestselling author, Clinical Psychologist, coach, and meditation teacher. Her mission is to support women who want to make a difference in the world. She helps women break through self-doubt and limiting beliefs to follow their Soul Calling and create lives (and businesses) they truly love. Emma is deeply passionate (some might say obsessed!) with meditation, tapping, and the intersection between science and spirituality. She brings together nerdy neuroscience and soulful wisdom in a way that's both practical and transformational to help her clients create more ease, joy and abundance in their lives. Her international bestselling book, Inspired Living, is co-authored with Dr Larry Farwell, a Harvard-trained neuroscientist and quantum physicist, featured in Time Magazine’s Top 100 Innovators of the Century. Emma lives on Sydney’s northern beaches with her family. Website: https://emmagray.net/  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/emma-gray 

Gavin Abeyratne In this episode of the Fourth Wave in Therapy podcast, Dr. Peta Stapleton interviews Gavin Abeyratne, exploring the intersection of leadership, personal development, and innovative therapeutic practices. They discuss the emergence of the fourth wave in therapy, the impact of limiting beliefs on leadership, and the importance of understanding the six forces of change that affect personal and professional growth. Gavin shares insights on the role of psychedelic-assisted therapy, the concept of integral alchemy, and practical tools for self-discovery, emphasizing the relational nature of self and the importance of community in personal development. In this engaging conversation, Gavin Abeyratne and Dr. Peta Stapleton explore themes of personal growth, visualization, and emotional balance through guided meditation techniques. They discuss the importance of social influences, the process of visualizing future successes, and the dynamics of energy flow within the body. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of acknowledging both positive and negative feelings, embracing possibilities, and trusting the timing of life transitions. The session culminates in reflections on the experience and insights gained, along with resources for further exploration. Gavin Abeyratne is an autodidactic polymath that likes big words and even bigger visions. When he's not writing about himself in the 3rd person, he's studying consciousness or spending time with his wife, two lovely daughters and cat in Melbourne, Australia. My vision is to call in the best and brightest, and synergise our collective capability to catalyse an elevation in consciousness... no big deal. Website: https://www.integralalchemy.com.au/  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/gavin-abeyratne 

Dr Lorne Brown In this engaging conversation, Dr. Peta Stapleton interviews Dr. Lorne Brown, exploring the intersection of acupuncture and tapping therapies like EFT. They discuss how emotions are stored in the body, the importance of daily tapping for emotional regulation, and the impact of cosmetic procedures on acupoints. The conversation delves into specific acupoints, their significance, and how understanding these can enhance the effectiveness of tapping therapies. In this enlightening conversation, Lorne Brown and Dr. Peta Stapleton delve into the intricate relationship between acupuncture, EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques), and emotional health. They explore how tapping therapies can facilitate emotional release, the importance of understanding acupuncture points, and the potential contraindications in therapy. The discussion emphasizes the integration of EFT and acupuncture for a holistic approach to healing, highlighting the significance of staying present with emotions during the process. Dr. Lorne Brown is the Clinical Director of Acubalance Wellness Centre, and the of Founder Pro D Seminars, Medigogy, and the Integrative Fertility Symposium. After a career as a Chartered Professional Accountant (CPA), Lorne received his Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine at Vancouver’s International College of Traditional Chinese Medicine, Lorne has extensive postgraduate training in gynecology, obstetrics, and reproductive medicine. In 2012, Lorne published the Acubalance Fertility Diet which is made available for free through the Acubalance website. Dr. Brown has successfully integrated his entrepreneurial skills and background as a CPA with his passion for Chinese Medicine establishing a very successful fertility practice (Acubalance.ca) and pioneering online continuing education through Pro D Seminars and Medigogy.com as well as the Integrative Fertility Symposium for Chinese Medicine Practitioners worldwide. I am passionate about helping my patients harness their inner healer and become active participants in their own healthcare. I strongly believe in the importance of an integrative approach to health, which led me to establish the Acubalance Wellness Centre in 2000. I continually seek out and obtain certification in various energy psychology / belief change modalities – including clinical hypnotherapy, Neuro-Linguistic Programming, PSYCH-K Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) and Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) – and I incorporate these belief change modalities in my acupuncture & laser sessions with my patients. My aim is to empower them to take the reins of their physical and emotional well-being. In addition to my role as Clinical Director at Acubalance Wellness Centre, I founded Healthy Seminars to provide acupuncturists and functional medicine practitioners with access to a comprehensive selection of online continuing education courses. In 2015, I founded the Integrative Fertility Symposium, which is the largest conference focusing on treating reproductive health issues using an integrative approach. Website: https://lornebrown.com/  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-lorne-brown 

Kerry Neilson In this episode, Dr. Peta Stapleton reconnects with Kerry Neilson, a quantum empowerment and transformation coach. They explore the cultural misconceptions surrounding change, the significance of personal awakening, and the interplay between science and spirituality in the transformation process. Kerry shares her profound journey of recovery from alcoholism, emphasising the importance of surrender, self-compassion, and identity change. The conversation culminates in an introduction to Kerry's course, 'Wired for Wonder,' which aims to guide individuals through their own transformation journeys. Kerry Neilson (M.Ed Studies in Guidance & Counselling, Dip. Gestalt Therapy) is a Gestalt therapist, writer, and former high school guidance counsellor and educator. With over 25 years’ experience, she specialises in helping people move through major life transitions. She is the author of the upcoming book Whole, Not Wholesome: How to Fall Apart, Wake the Hell Up and Let Your Pieces Become Power. Kerry also offers courses and webinars on spirituality, resilience, crisis, and personal transformation. Learn more at https://www.kerryneilson.com.au/  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/kerry-neilson 

Dr Gina Cleo  In this episode, Dr. Gina Cleo discusses the science of habit change and its profound impact on wellbeing. She shares her personal journey into habit science, emphasizing the importance of understanding how habits are formed and how they can be changed. The conversation explores the neuroscience behind habits, the role of dopamine, and practical strategies for establishing healthy habits, particularly around sleep and wellbeing. Dr. Cleo also debunks the myth of the 21-day habit formation rule and provides insights for therapists on helping clients develop new habits. Dr. Gina Cleo is a globally recognised expert in habit change and wellbeing, and is passionate about translating scientific evidence into simple, actionable strategies to help improve health, wellness and mindset-related habits-long-term. Gina has a PhD in habit change, is an Assistant Professor at Bond University, and an Accredited Dietitian. Her research has been published in highly reputable medical journals globally, and she has been featured in over 250 media outlets including Australian’s major television networks and leading print and online publications. She is also a regular keynote speaker and expert panellist at national and international conferences. In 2024, Gina released her best-selling book, The Habit Revolution, further establishing her as a leading voice in the field of habit change. When she’s not geeking out on new habit research, Gina is running courses through her Habit Change Institute and working the land on her acreage property. Website: www.drginacleo.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/drginacleo  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-gina-cleo 

Marcus Pearce  In this engaging conversation, Dr Peta Stapleton and Marcus Pearce explore the themes of longevity, life design, and the cultural practices of blue zones that contribute to exceptional aging. They discuss the importance of purpose, connection, and active learning in fostering a fulfilling life. The conversation emphasizes the need to shift beliefs about aging and the significance of shared meals and mindfulness in enhancing quality of life. Marcus shares insights from his research and interviews with centenarians, highlighting the simple yet profound practices that can lead to a longer, healthier life. No matter your family history or your genes, Marcus Pearce believes that it’s not all downhill from here and that your best years are in front of you, not behind you. Marcus Pearce is a longevity and life design strategist and host of 100 Not Out, Australia’s longest running podcast on ageing well and longevity. He is the author of the best-selling book Your Exceptional Life and each year takes small groups to the European Blue Zones of Sardinia and the Greek Island Ikaria - known as the island where people forget to die. Marcus has spent the past decade interviewing and researching more than 200 of the world’s centenarians, graceful agers, health professionals and icons of humanity. Website: www.marcuspearce.com.au Email: marcus@marcuspearce.com.au Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/marcus-pearce 

Dr Tomas Frymann In this enlightening conversation, Peta Stapleton speaks with Dr Tomas Frymann, founder of As We Wake, about the transformative potential of psychedelic therapy. They explore Tomas's personal journey with psychedelics, the profound experiences of oneness, and the scientific underpinnings of how psychedelics can aid in mental health treatment, particularly for PTSD. The discussion emphasizes the importance of integration after psychedelic experiences and the future of psychedelics in mental health care. Dr. Tomas Frymann is the founder of As We Wake, an organization dedicated to connecting culture to Interbeing through psychedelics. He completed his Ph.D. in the Spirituality and Psychology Lab at Columbia University, is an initiate of the Bwiti tradition, and has facilitated and experienced 100’s of psychedelic ceremonies worldwide with psilocybin, ayahuasca, iboga, and 5-MeO-DMT. In his many years of psychotherapy experience he has worked with veterans, cancer patients, university students, and ICU patients. Dr. Frymann authored the first empirical measurements of Psychedelic Integration and Interbeing Identity, which have been translated into multiple languages and adopted by psychedelic facilitation centers globally. He has presented his work at major forums including the United Nations and Harvard University, and is featured on the following podcasts: Universe Within, 10 Laws Podcast, Psychedelic medicine Podcast, End of the Road Podcast. Dr. Frymann is also a former professional skimboarder and general ocean sports aficionado. Website: www.aswewake.com Instagram: @aswewake  Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-tomas-frymann 

Dr Hayley Kelly In this episode, Peta Stapleton interviews Dr. Hayley Kelly, a clinical psychologist, discussing the challenges within the mental health system, the burnout faced by therapists, and the disconnect between therapy practices and business skills. They explore the evolving expectations of clients and the need for innovation in therapy to better serve the community. We delve into the evolving landscape of therapy practices, exploring the critical need for innovation and adaptation in the field. As societal challenges and technological advancements reshape the way we approach mental health, therapists are called to embrace new methods and tools to enhance their practice. Join us as I chat with Dr Hayley Kelly and discover how innovation is not just an option but a necessity in the future world of mental health care. Dr. Hayley Kelly is a clinical psychologist, speaker, and founder of Therapists Rising. With over a decade in the therapy room and a PhD in psychology, Hayley now helps therapists expand their impact beyond one-to-one work through her Mental Health 3.0 framework — a future-ready model for thriving in a digital-first, ethically complex mental health landscape. Her work bridges evidence-based clinical excellence with innovation, equity, and accessibility, equipping therapists to adapt, lead, and create change in a system that’s struggling to keep pace with the world around it. Website: https://therapistsrising.com/  Show notes and resources are available here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-hayley-kelly 

Dr Christine Gibson In this conversation with Peta, Dr. Christine Gibson discusses her journey into trauma work and the importance of trauma-informed care in the medical field. She emphasizes the need for a paradigm shift in understanding the mind-body connection and the impact of trauma on physical and mental health. Dr. Gibson shares practical tools and techniques from her book, The Modern Trauma Toolkit, that can help individuals regulate their nervous systems and heal from trauma. She also highlights the importance of trauma-informed training for healthcare professionals and the need for greater awareness of trauma in society. For show notes, transcripts, resources and more visit the podcast episode page here   https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/Dr-Christine-Gibson About Dr Christine GIbson Dr. Christine Gibson is a family physician, trauma therapist, and author of The Modern Trauma Toolkit. You can find her on TiKTok with the handle TikTokTraumaDoc with >130k and her two TEDx talks online. Dr. Gibson has a passion for Health Equity and systems change, having created a residency and run programs for and with equity-deserving communities. She runs an international non-profit called the Global Familymed Foundation and a company where she trains professionals on how to manage workplace trauma - Safer Spaces Training (and The Belong Foundation). Personal site: www.ChristineGibson.net Book site: www.ModernTrauma.com Social media links: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@dr.christinegibson Facebook https://www.facebook.com/gibtrotterMD Twitter https://twitter.com/GibtrotterMD  

Dr Kim D'Eramo Dr. Kim D'Eramo, a physician and practitioner of mind-body medicine, discusses the concept of miraculous healing and the importance of taking science one step further. She emphasizes the connection between emotional distress and physical symptoms, highlighting the role of fear and shame in suppressing the body's natural healing abilities. Dr. D'Eramo shares her personal journey of healing from a severe autoimmune disease and explains the power of awareness, breath, and movement in facilitating healing. She also discusses the emergence of the fourth wave of therapy, which focuses on the mind-body connection and the role of consciousness in healthcare. In this conversation with Dr Kim, you will learn the 3 steps to take and ask when you are looking for the answers - whether this be for a physical illness, pain or other issues, these questions are worth learning! The show notes, transcripts and more are on the podcast page here  https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/Dr-Kim-D'Eramo  About Dr Kim Dr Kim D'Eramo is a Physician, Best-Selling Author of The MindBody ToolKit, & Founder of the American Institute of MindBody Medicine. She is a conscious physician who shares MindBody Medicine for resolving fatigue, pain, anxiety, autoimmue illness, and more.  Visit Kim here https://drkimd.com/  Dr Kim's podcast Mind Body TV is here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mindbody-tv-podcast-with-dr-kim-deramo/id1382800189?mt=2 

Dr Bob Schwarz In this conversation, Peta Stapleton and Dr. Bob Schwartz discuss the concept of the fourth wave in therapy and the role of energy psychology. They explore the importance of integrating the body into therapy and the connection between energy psychology and polyvagal theory. They also discuss the challenges of acceptance in the traditional field of therapy and the need for more research and understanding. Their vision for the future includes the widespread use of energy psychology for self-regulation and the treatment of adverse childhood events. For show notes, transcripts and more visit the podcast page here  https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/Dr-Bob-Schwarz   Robert Schwarz, PsyD, DCEP has been a licensed psychologist for over 35 years. Since 2008, Bob has been the executive director of the Association for Comprehensive Energy Psychology (www.energypsych.org).  Dr. Schwarz has organized over 30 conferences on Ericksonian hypnosis, brief therapy, trauma treatment, and energy psychology training over 18,000 therapists. He organized ACEP’s Science of energy healing online programs attended by over 5000 people.  He co-developed ACEP’s online EFT training program.  Dr. Schwarz has been a leading force for integrating EFT/EP with trauma informed treatment, interpersonal neurobiology and polyvagal theory.   He has authored 3 books: Tools for Transforming Trauma (2002) and PTSD: A clinician’s Guide (1991) and We’re No Fun Anymore: Guiding Couples to a Joy Filled Marriage Through the Power of Play (2011), as well as numerous articles and papers, including Energy Psychology as a Polyvagal Intervention for Trauma (2018).   Bob presents workshops and keynotes internationally on EFT and energy psychology, trauma treatment, panic and anxiety. He is known for his ability to provide specific clinical skills within an integrative model. Participants consistently comment that his workshops are engaging and entertaining, full of humor as well as deeply moving demonstrations.     He attempts to balance his life with his passion for songwriting singing and playing guitar.  His music can be found on his band’s website Liftstreetmusic.com  and his studio album can be found on any streaming service (Lookup Lift Street).  

Dr Joe Vitale This interview was a dream come true. Imagine chatting to Dr Joe Vitale! In this enlightening conversation, Dr. Joe Vitale shares insights into Ho'oponopono, a Hawaiian healing technique that emphasizes personal responsibility and inner transformation. He explains the significance of the four key phrases used in this practice and recounts his journey to discover Ho'oponopono through Dr. Hew Len. The discussion also explores the applications of Ho'oponopono in various aspects of life, including relationships and personal challenges, and introduces Dr. Vitale's latest work, 'Zero Limits Living,' which synthesizes his teachings on mindset, movement, and mysticism. For show notes, transcripts and more visit the podcast episode page here  https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/Dr-Joe-Vitale  About Dr Joe Vitale Dr. Joe Vitale is a world renowned Personal Development expert and star of the blockbuster hit movie on the Law of Attraction, The Secret. Author over over 75 books on a wide range of development topics, he's helped thousands at his live events and millions through the internet, his books and educational programs. Dr. Vitale has developed The New Awakening with love and all of the skills and knowledge he's gained in over 35 years of helping people create the lives they desire and deserve. Follow and visit Joe Vitale  https://www.instagram.com/drjoevitale/?hl=en https://www.facebook.com/drjoevitale/ Books are here https://www.mrfire.com/shop/  Website is https://www.mrfire.com/ 

Mary Sise Mary Sise discusses the integration of spirituality in therapy and the importance of addressing trauma before introducing spiritual concepts. She explains the process of soul weaving, which involves bringing the client's present self back to their younger self to heal and integrate fragmented aspects. This process allows clients to develop a loving relationship with themselves and access suppressed emotions. Sise emphasizes the significance of working with a trained practitioner when dealing with trauma and chronic health issues.  Show notes, transcripts and more are on the podcast page here  https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/Mary-Sise    About Mary Sise For over two decades, Mary Sise has been a leading voice in advancing the field of energy psychology. In addition to being traditionally trained as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, she has earned her Diplomate in Comprehensive Energy Psychology. As coach and mentor, Mary integrates energy techniques into her practice and has trained hundreds of clinicians in these methods.  Mary has pioneered methodologies and techniques including The Soul Weaving Process. She has also advocated for expanded clinical understanding of the integral interrelationship of the mind, body, and spirit in the healing paradigm. She presents at conferences and develops training and course work especially in the areas of releasing negative beliefs, healing trauma and dissociation, and the role and responsibilities of the practitioner. In 2007, Mary co-authored the book, The Energy of Belief: Psychology’s Power Tools to Focus Intention & Release Blocking Beliefs, which teaches individuals how to transform the beliefs that are holding them back. This popular self-help book initially focused on the energy psychology method of touch and breath (TAB) to transform beliefs. In 2022, the book was updated to include EFT/Tapping and re-released as The Energy of Belief: Simple, Proven Techniques to Release Limiting Beliefs & Transform Your Life. It quickly became an Amazon Best Selling Book. In 2020, Mary wrote the Amazon Kindle bestseller, Tapping the Panic Out of Pandemic, a no-nonsense guide for navigating uncertain times. Mary has also served as President of the Association for Comprehensive Energy Psychology, the international professional organization dedicated to energy psychology training, research and humanitarian work. Visit Mary here https://marysise.com/ 

Naomi Janzen Naomi Janzen shares her personal journey of discovering EFT and how it transformed her life. She initially dismissed tapping as ridiculous but later turned to it during a period of severe depression. After just a week of tapping for two hours a day, she experienced a profound shift and a sense of joy and lightness. Naomi emphasizes the importance of addressing deep issues in the body that talk therapy alone could not reach. She also highlights the individual nature of healing and the need for self-tapping to reinforce the work done in sessions. Naomi's story serves as an inspiration for others seeking healing through EFT. Naomi Janzen is an Accredited Expert Clinical EFT Practitioner for Evidence Based EFT and Master Trainer for EFT International, as well as the writer and co-producer of the documentary The Science of Tapping and the creator of the Clarity Tapping method and author of forthcoming books Tapping Out of Depression (Even When You Barely Care Enough to Try) and Clarity Tapping - A New Way Backward. She is the creator of the Remindfulness app, named a Top 10 Mindfulness App by Positive Psychology and from 2014 to 2019 she co-hosted One Mind Live, a weekly live online worldwide meditation broadcast - now an Apple podcast. A screenwriter for over 25 years before becoming an EFT practitioner, she uses her storyteller’s sensibility to convey the principles of her twin passions, EFT and mindfulness, to her clients, trainees and as she puts it “anyone who will listen.” Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here  https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/Naomi-Janzen  Visit Naomi and her work here https://www.naomijanzen.net/  Train in EFT with Naomi here https://www.ozfreedomtechniques.com/ 

Dr Megan Lee Dr Megan Lee is an assistant professor of psychology at Bond University and the secretary of the International Society of Nutritional Psychiatry Research. Dr Lee has published articles on dietary patterns and depression, intuitive eating, and the role of nutrition in mental health. To make contact about the therapist study Megan mentioned at the end, Email: melee@bond.edu.au Website: www.foodmooddoctor.org X, Facebook, & Instagram: @foodmooddoctor We discussed the BlueZones: Five geographical locations where people live exceptionally long and high-quality lives and have the highest population fo centinarians. People who live in the Blue Zones eat a predominantly plant-based diet, have more physically active lives and experience greater social connection to other locations in the world. They are Icaria (Greece), Sardinia (Italy), Okinawa (Japan). Loma Linda (USA), Nicoya Peninsula (Cost Rica). The papers we discuss, show notes and resources are on the podcast page to explore - https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/Dr-Megan-Lee 

Dr Philip Friedman Peta and Dr Phil have the most extraordinary conversation here. They actually share about how Phil trained under the Cognitive Behavioural Therapy giants and greats, when CBT was just emerged and considered quackery and ridiculous. Phil shares that he has seen many therapies be rejected and then embraced - this was a refreshing conversation! It also gave me great hope in the 4th wave approaches. Part of what has driven Phil all these years, is searching for the tools that would help his clients - he found the 4th wave approaches well before we did! Phil has contributed so much in the area of developing psychological measures and therapy tools (links below) - he is truly a giant in the psychology field.  Note: about 3 months after this interviewed was recorded, I (Peta) received news that Phil had passed. He was still seeing clients from his nursing home and positively impacting the lives of those he touched. I was quietly devastated but eternally grateful I was able to have this conversation and record Phil's journey through the decades.  About Dr Phillip Friedman Philip H. Friedman, PhD, was a licensed psychologist and Director of the Foundation for Well-Being, in Lansdale, Pennsylvania. He is the author of “The Forgiveness Solution” and “Creating Well Being” in addition to the Friedman Assessment Scales on Well-Being, Beliefs, Quality of Life, Affect, Life Balance, Spiritual Awakening and the Mini-5 Factor Personality Scale. Dr. Friedman has published many articles in professional journals. He is also the developer of the ICBEST model of psychotherapy and strongly influenced by the spiritual disciplines of A Course in Miracles and Siddha Yoga. Dr. Friedman was an adjunct professor on the faculty of Sophia Univ. (formerly the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology). He is the founder of Integrative Forgiveness Psychotherapy (IFP), the Positive Pressure Point Techniques (PPPT), the Practice Based Evidence Approach (PBEA) and the Digital Assessment and Tracking Approach (DATA) to assessment and change. Dr. Friedman is trained in EFT, ART, CBT, GIT, EMDR, HYPNOSIS and many other techniques. His websites are: https://www.wikiphilipfriedman.com https://www.friedmanscales.com/ 

Dr Christine McKee Dr Peta talks with Dr Christine McKee in this episode - about relationships and relational health. They discuss the role of the autonomic nervous system in deep connection, and intimacy, and the different tools that can be used to regulate (oneself and in a couple).  Chris discusses her approach to working with couples in therapy, focusing on somatic and relational health. She emphasizes the importance of regulation and attachment in relationships, and how these factors impact the ability to be present and connected. Dr. McKee explains her step-by-step process, starting with self-regulation and then moving to co-regulation, where couples practice techniques such as eye contact, light touch, and non-distracted space. She also highlights the significance of tempo and pacing in therapy, ensuring that the slowest person's needs are met. The goal is to create a safe and regulated environment where vulnerable conversations can take place. For show notes, transcripts, resources and more visit the podcast episode page here https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/Dr-Christine-McKee Christine discusses a guide she created just for our listeners - An Orienting to Now Tools Guide What you get inside the Guide:  6 x quick tips to self-regulate prior to and during a session, as a practitioner  5 x practical Orienting to Now tools to share with client  Free download is available here https://www.drchristinemckee.com/Orienting_to_Now_Tools_Guide  About Dr Christine McKee Christine is a a New Zealand born, Aussie-raised, Canada living psychologist (Australia), master practitioner in clinical counselling (Canada), with 20 years of hands-on clinical and corporate experience. She has had the pleasure of working alongside amazing individuals, couples, families, leaders, and teams across diverse industries and countries and her passion has always been people. Chirtsine is especially focussed on helping people to thrive in healthy relationships - be it partner, parent, family, work, or friendships.  Visit Christine and her work https://www.drchristinemckee.com/home