The Deconstructionists

Angela Harger Thompson joins us for part one of a deeply honest, unexpectedly funny, and powerful conversation about survival, trauma, and reclaiming the right to tell your own story.Angela is an actor, filmmaker, and author of the new memoir Worst Tits Ever. In this first installment, she shares the experiences that divided her life into a before and an after—including being drugged and sexually assaulted, navigating the confusing realities of an abusive relationship, and eventually finding herself trapped on a boat with a man she increasingly understood she was not safe with.Together, we explore how difficult it can be to recognize abuse while living inside it, the ways trauma can alter our perception of ourselves, and the shame and silence that so often keep survivors from speaking openly about what happened to them. Angela also discusses why she chose to tell her story with such vulnerability, candor, and humor.This conversation is also an early glimpse of what’s ahead with our new podcast, This Is Who We Become—the natural next chapter of The Deconstructionists after we stop producing new episodes at the end of this year.Every life has a before. Every life has an after.This Is Who We Become will feature conversations with survivors, scientists, physicians, explorers, and ordinary people whose lives were transformed by extraordinary experiences. Visit thisiswhowebecome.com and join the mailing list to receive guest announcements, release dates, trailer news, and other updates as we prepare to launch.Please consider sharing the website with someone who might connect with these stories. The larger we can grow this community before launch, the stronger this next chapter will be.Content warning: This episode includes discussions of sexual assault, drugging, abusive relationships, coercive control, and trauma. Please take care of yourself while listening.In Part One:Angela’s decision to write Worst Tits EverUsing humor to communicate painful experiencesBeing drugged and sexually assaultedThe confusion, shame, and self-questioning that can follow traumaHow abusive relationships gradually distort a person’s sense of what is normalRecognizing danger while living inside a controlling relationshipThe importance of survivors telling their stories in their own wordsLearn more:Order Worst Tits Ever wherever books are soldFollow Angela Harger Thompson and learn more about her workJoin the This Is Who We Become mailing list at thisiswhowebecome.comSpecial music provided by Forrest Clay from his Recover EP. If you or someone you know has experienced sexual violence, confidential support is available through the RAINN National Sexual Assault Hotline at 800-656-HOPE (4673) or rainn.org.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In Part Two of our conversation with Dr. Janet Kellogg, we explore the growing loss of trust in medicine and science—and what happens when that distrust opens the door to misinformation.From unsupported claims connecting Tylenol to autism to the broader consequences of rejecting medical expertise, we examine why these ideas gain traction, how fear can travel faster than evidence, and why simply telling people they’re wrong rarely rebuilds trust.We also discuss the need to hold institutions accountable for genuine failures without abandoning science altogether—and what honesty, humility, and transparency might contribute to restoring public confidence.New Podcast Coming Soon!Our new podcast, This Is Who We Become, explores the moments that divide a life into “before” and “after”—and the people we become because of them.Visit https://thisiswhowebecome.com and join the mailing list for upcoming guest announcements, launch updates, and more.Connect with The Deconstructionists:Website: https://thedeconstructionists.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

What if accepting evolution didn’t require abandoning faith?Dr. Janet Kellogg Ray returns to The Deconstructionists to talk about her new book, Fish with Feet: Human Evolution and the Image of God.Janet is a science educator, author, and Jesus follower who was herself raised within creationism. In her latest book, she tackles one of the most persistent points of tension between modern science and certain expressions of Christianity: human evolution.In Part One of our conversation, we dig into the remarkable story of how life developed on Earth and eventually produced us—from our ancient aquatic ancestors to primates, early humans, and Homo sapiens. Along the way, Janet helps unpack some of the evidence for evolution found in fossils, anatomy, genetics, and even the strange imperfections built into our own bodies.We also explore why human evolution remains particularly difficult for many Christians to accept, why familiar objections like “If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” misunderstand how evolution actually works, and what happens when the scientific evidence appears to conflict with the way we were taught to read Scripture.And underneath it all is a much bigger question:If human beings are part of the evolutionary story of life on Earth, what does it actually mean to say that we are made in the image of God?That’s where things get really interesting.This is Part One of our conversation with Dr. Janet Kellogg Ray.Fish with Feet: Human Evolution and the Image of God is available from Eerdmans Publishing and wherever books are sold.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

After more than ten years of conversations about faith, doubt, theology, identity, and the questions that reshape us, The Deconstructionists is entering its final chapter.In this special update, John reflects on how the show began, the philosophy that guided it, what has changed in the deconstruction space over the past decade, and why the time feels right to bring the weekly podcast to a close at the end of 2026.But this isn’t goodbye just yet.There are still new guests and conversations ahead, the full archive will remain available, and the door will always be open for future special episodes.John also introduces what comes next: Who We Become, a new podcast exploring the moments that divide our lives into before and after — and the people we become on the other side.Learn more and join the mailing list at thisiswhowebecome.com.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

What does it really mean to be present with another person?In Part Two of John's conversation with Rev. Sally Pelinka Miller, the discussion moves beyond defining modern chaplaincy and into the heart of spiritual care itself.Rather than offering easy answers or trying to fix people's pain, today's chaplains often practice something much more difficult: accompanying people through uncertainty, grief, trauma, and profound life transitions. In a culture that values certainty, productivity, and quick solutions, this conversation explores the transformative power of simply showing up.Rev. Sally shares how contemporary chaplains understand their work—not as experts dispensing wisdom, but as compassionate companions helping people navigate some of life's most sacred and challenging moments.Together, John and Rev. Sally discuss:Why presence can be more powerful than having the right words.What chaplains can teach all of us about listening.The role of empathy, curiosity, and accompaniment in spiritual care.How grief, suffering, and meaning intersect.Why human connection is becoming increasingly valuable in an age shaped by technology and AI.What it looks like to care for people across different faiths, beliefs, and worldviews.How we can all become better companions to those who are hurting.Whether you're a person of faith, someone deconstructing long-held beliefs, or simply interested in becoming more present for the people around you, this conversation offers practical wisdom and a hopeful vision of what compassionate care can look like.Guest:Rev. Sally Pelinka Miller, MDiv, MA (DMin candidate), is a Board Certified Chaplain (APC), an ACPE Certified Educator, and Manager of Clinical Pastoral Education at The Johns Hopkins Hospital. She is the author of the forthcoming New Images of Spiritual Care, which highlights the diverse voices and innovative practices shaping contemporary chaplaincy.Follow The DeconstructionistsIf you enjoyed this conversation, we'd love your support. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, leave a rating or review, and share this episode with someone who might find it meaningful.Follow us on social media for episode clips, behind-the-scenes content, and updates on upcoming conversations exploring faith, doubt, history, psychology, and what it means to be human.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy