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When Thomas and Jennifer Ayers were found dead, the suspect was known from the start. But the investigation questioned motives and in the end, it was up to a judge to balance justice with mercy.  This case is *solved*Thank you to today's sponsor Newspapers.com ! Go to newspapers.com/truecrime/ and use code CRIMELINES at check out. Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

An interview with Dr. Jeffery Smalldon, author of “That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Five Decades of Conversations with Killers”THAT BEAST WAS NOT ME documents five decades of conversations with murderers like John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, serial sniper Thomas Lee Dillon, and Donald Harvey-then thought to be the most prolific serial killer in American history. Through letters, prison visits, and interviews, Smalldon gives readers a terrifying look into the darkest recesses of the human psyche.Get the book hereTo learn more: https://jeffreysmalldon.com/ Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lucille Butterworth went missing in Tasmania in 1969, and Australians were shocked to learn decades later that someone confessed to her murder just 7 years after her disappearance. Confirmation bias, tunnel vision, and poor police procedures so damaged this case that even a confession was not enough to close it. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything about the disappearance of Lucille Butterworth, you can contact the Tasmania Police at 131 444 or Crime Stoppers at 1 800 333 000.Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Infant abductions are unlike other kidnappings and the profile of the perpetrator differs greatly, with the vast majority being women whose motivation is to raise the child. With the rise in at-home DNA kits, these cold cases are starting to be solved but there are still some that remain unresolved. These cases are *unsolved*If you know anything, you can call NCMEC at 1-800-THE-LOST orMatthew Crocker: Van Buren Police Department 479-474-1234Emmanuel Birts: Dallas Police Department 214-744-4444David Blockett: Newport News Police Department 757-926-8706Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Davohnte Morgan was getting his life back after a traumatic injury but when he walked away from an argument with his girlfriend in 2020, he was never heard from again. His family wants his story out there so that people know to keep looking for Davohnte so that, regardless of the outcome, they can bring him home. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything, you can call the Mt Shasta police at (530) 926-7540Events:LA Meetup! January 8 2026 6p-8p at the Bigfoot Lodge 3172 Los Feliz Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90039Thank you to today's sponsor Newspapers.com! Visit Newspapers.com/truecrime today and use promo code "crimelines" at checkout for 20% off a subscription. Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In December of 2017, the Stockton police got a tip that a baby had been killed in May of 2016 and it had never been reported. The investigation showed that the family had not just one missing baby but rather two. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything, you can call the Stockton police at 1-209-937-7911 or NCMEC at 1800THELOSTEvents:LA Meetup! January 8 2026 6p-8p at the Bigfoot Lodge 3172 Los Feliz Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90039Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Ten year old Bianca Lebron said she was going to the mall with her uncle. She got into a van and drove off, never to be seen again. There have been suspects over the years and it seems the police have gotten close to an arrest a couple of times. But Bianca’s case remains unsolved. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything, please call the Bridgeport Police Department 1-203-576-7671 or NCMEC at 1-800-THE-LOST.Events:LA Meetup! January 8 2026 6p-8p at the Bigfoot Lodge 3172 Los Feliz Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90039Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Logan Schiendelman was having some growing pains as he entered adulthood like a lot of young people do. Nothing seemed insurmountable but when he disappeared, the investigators had to consider if any of those issues contributed. This case is *unsolved*Help support search efforts: https://gofund.me/5ec6d7574  If you know anything, you can call the Thurston County Sheriff’s non emergency dispatch at 360-786-5500 or  CrimeStoppers at 1-800-577-8477. Events:LA Meetup! January 8 2026 6p-8p at the Bigfoot Lodge 3172 Los Feliz Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90039Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When a child goes missing, entire communities turn out to search for them. But the people of Towanda, Kansas weren’t given that opportunity because Adam Herrman’s adoptive parents? They said he went back into state care and it took 9 years for anyone to realize that was a lie. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything, you can call the Butler County Sheriff's Department at 316-322-4254 or NCMEC at 1 800 THE LOSTSupport the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

For the month of December, True Crime creators are getting together for conversations about podcasting, true crime, and the nexus between the two. We’ll discuss creating our shows, behind-the-scenes moments, fears and hopes, the cases that have gripped us, and more.In this conversation, Josh Hallmark (True Crime Bullsh**), Amanda (Wine and Crime), and I discuss nothing and everything all at once.Enjoy this conversation and be sure to check out the rest:• Jessie (Love Murder), Bob (Buried), Joshua (Somewhere in the Pines)• Javier (Pretend), Kristen (Murder, She Told), Shaun (Sins & Survivors)• Patrick (True Crime Obsessed), Josh (True Crime Bullsh**), Eric (True Consequences)• Gillian (True Crime Obsessed), Alvin (Affirmative Murder), Lanie (True Crime Cases with Lanie)• Robin (The Trail Went Cold), Nina (Already Gone), John (Sins & Survivors)• Aaron (Generation Why), Lucy (Wine & Crime), Kristen (Murder, She Told)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Francheska and Misheila Martinez were twin sisters living in Paterson New Jersey in the spring of 2000. But that summer both of them disappeared–separately–and the police assumed they were runaways. But after 25 years of no contact, we have to wonder if something else happened. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything, you can call NCMEC at 1-800-THE-LOST.Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In June of 2021, a little girl went missing from her family’s rural property in Tennessee. The case got the national attention most missing persons advocates would love to have, but then it went too far and impeded the investigation. While we debate the balance between reporting information and hurting a case, Summer Moo n-Utah Wells remains missing to this day. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything about the disappearance of Rose Bly, you can call the Polk County police at 715-485-8300. If you know anything about the disappearance of Summer Wells, you can call the TBI at 1-800-TBI-FIND or NCMEC at 1-800-THE-LOST.Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

April Andrews left her home to walk down to a church clothing giveaway but never returned. After being assumed a runaway for years, the sheriff’s department took another look at the case and they now believe this is a criminal case. But they need to find April to move forward. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything call the Benton County Sheriff’s Criminal Investigations Division at (479) 271-1009.  or NCMEC at 1 800 THE LOST.Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

An entire family disappeared from Independence, Missouri but it wasn’t reported for 5 months. And then the police determined they were actually on the run and closed the case having never made contact with them. It would take a family member doing her own investigation to get the case reopened. This case is *unsolved*If you have any information on the disappearance of the Johnson family or where Henry Lee Harbison went after he left Independence Missouri in 1974, you can call the Independence Police at 816-325-7300 or NCMEC at 1 800 THE LOST.Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After Patricia Viola disappeared, her husband lobbied to require New Jersey police to enter DNA samples from families of missing persons in CODIS because he knew that would help solve cases. And CODIS was exactly what would bring answers in Pat’s case. This case is *unsolved*If you have information about the suspicious death of Patricia Viola, you can call the Bogota Police Department at (201) 487-2400. Thank you to today's sponsor Uncommon Goods! To get 15% off your next gift, go to uncommongoods.com/CRIMELINES. Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When 23 year old Wilma Nissen stopped communicating with her various foster families, they hoped she found a better life somewhere. But the truth was she was a Jane Doe, far from home, and it would take diligent police work and the daughter she left behind to start to put the pieces together. This case is *unsolved*If you know anything, you can email tips to justice4wilma@aol.com or call the Lyon County Sheriff’s Office at (712) 472-8300 or Crime Stoppers at (800) 222-TIPSTo learn more, follow Krissi’s Medium page at https://medium.com/@justice4wilma To sign the petition, go to https://chng.it/GF2BW4zPvSWebsite: https://www.justice4wilmajunenissen.com/ Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Around Christmas time 2013, investigators in the Arlington, Washington area got notified that a recently arrested car thief wanted to talk to them. He told them he knew about a decade’s old murder that happened on a rural property… a crime the police had no idea even happened. This case is *solved*Thank you to our sponsor: Uncommon Goods! To get 15% off your next gift, go to uncommongoods.com/CRIMELINES. Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After 18 year old Anjelica Hadsell was reported missing, clues started showing up around town. But were they leading to police closer to the an answer or were they intended to send them in the wrong direction?This case is *solved*Thank you to Newspapers.com for sponsoring today's episode! Head over to Newspapers.com/gift and use the code 'Crimelines' at checkout for an exclusive 20% discount. Your favorite armchair detective will thank you!Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Humans are resilient. In our toughest moments, we will fight, we will struggle, and we will triumph...often against the odds.In this immersive series from Wondery, host-adventurers Mike Corey and Cassie De Pecol will share thrilling stories of survival. From the daring rescue of a soccer team trapped in an underwater cave in Thailand, to a woman taken hostage by Somali pirates, these stories made headlines around the world.Against The Odds will make you feel as though you’re living these experiences with our heroes as they push themselves to their limits.Listen to Against The Odds: Tsunami In Thailand: Wondery.fm/ATO_CSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When Cody Bowles supposedly left town to join a motorcycle gang, it actually sounded like something he would do. But when he stopped contacting his family and didn’t fill his life saving prescriptions, people got worried and soon one mysterious death was uncovered… and then another. This case is *solved*Thank you to Uncommon Goods for sponsoring this episode! Get 15% off your next gift at Uncommongoods.com/CRIMELINESSupport the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2025 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.