Snark Bait

One of Bachelor Nation’s biggest stars and golden boys was somehow never the lead himself — but has *milked* his reality TV fame for all its worth.  Thank you to our sponsors! Wrap yourself (and your pets!) in luxury with Lola Lola Blankets! Use our code SNARK for 40% off LolaBlankets.com for a limited time.  Find pieces made for real life with Wayfair. Join Wayfair Rewards to get five percent back on every purchase. Make your bed your favorite place to be this season with Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers. Get free shipping and 365-day returns. Head to Cure Hydration and use code SNARK for 20% off your order. Subscribe and save; you can pause or cancel anytime. Explore your style without commitment — get $28 OFF your first month of Nuuly by using code SNARK at Nuuly.com!  Get ad-free and bonus episodes weekly on our Patreon — and don’t forget to sign up for our weekly newsletter!  Shop our merch!  Make sure to follow us on Instagram and watch full episodes on YouTube! @snarkbaitpod   @christynoel__ @soph_ross   FULL LINKS: Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/snarkbaitpod  Full video up on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@snarkbaitpod  Snark Bait Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/snarkbaitpod/  Christy’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/christynoel__/  Sophie’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/soph_ross/  Substack - https://substack.com/@snarkbaitpod  Merch - https://www.depop.com/snarkbaitpod/  Approximate Timestamps: 00:20 — October catch-up + introducing Tyler Cameron 05:20 — Tyler’s childhood, football career, Matt James & becoming a model 09:10 — Post-Bachelorette success: book, Special Forces & Going Home with Tyler Cameron 13:30 — Hannah Brown’s Bachelorette season & Tyler becoming the fan favorite 17:10 — Hannah chooses Jed + Tyler nearly becoming The Bachelor 19:00 — Tyler’s relationships: The Gigi Hadid/Hannah Brown love triangle 21:10 — The 2020 “Quarantine Crew” & Matt James becoming The Bachelor 26:20 — Hannah and Tyler after The Bachelorette + DWTS reunion 29:30 — Camila Kendra, Paige Lorenze & Tyler’s dating history 36:20 — Why Tyler never became The Bachelor 38:50 — Tate Madden relationship + the infamous texts and milk video 44:40 — Tyler and Tate get engaged + “Better late than never” 49:30 — Golden Bachelor drama & Tyler’s take on the franchise 52:30 — Matt James, Rachael Kirkconnell & Tyler’s friendship 56:10 — Tyler on Dancing with the Stars + has he lost his appeal? 59:40 — Bachelor Nation nostalgia + outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains discussion of the Cornell rape case. Please listen with discretion. Today, Christy and Sophie dive into Pete Davidson’s misogyny, the F Factor feud between Emily Gellis and Tanya Zuckerbrot, the Cornell 7 (HUGE TRIGGER WARNING), and more.  Thank you to our sponsors! Get 40% off select Lola Blankets products by using code SNARK at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets. #lolapartner Find pieces made for real life with Wayfair. Join Wayfair Rewards to get five percent back on every purchase. Make your bed your favorite place to be this season with Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers. Get free shipping and 365-day returns. Head to Cure Hydration and use code SNARK for 20% off your order. Subscribe and save; you can pause or cancel anytime. Explore your style without commitment — get $28 OFF your first month of Nuuly by using code SNARK at Nuuly.com!  Get ad-free and bonus episodes weekly on our Patreon — and don’t forget to sign up for our weekly newsletter!  Shop our merch!  Make sure to follow us on Instagram and watch full episodes on YouTube! @snarkbaitpod   @christynoel__ @soph_ross   FULL LINKS: Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/snarkbaitpod  Full video up on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@snarkbaitpod  Snark Bait Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/snarkbaitpod/  Christy’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/christynoel__/  Sophie’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/soph_ross/  Substack - https://substack.com/@snarkbaitpod  Merch - https://www.depop.com/snarkbaitpod/  Approximate episode timestamps 00:20 — Weekend catch-up: Henry’s birthday, QC Spa & Christy’s disturbing new read 04:50 — Sophie’s cooking era + Grace Elkus’ Protein-Packed Vegetarian 06:30 — The Cornell Seven: allegations, Cornell’s response & supporting survivors 10:40 — Expulsions, the DA controversy & online defense of the accused 15:20 — Understanding the “fawn response” after sexual assault 18:30 — Sophie confronts someone who assaulted her 10 years ago 20:00 — Why sexual assault often doesn’t look the way people expect 25:15 — Pete Davidson’s rant about female influencers 27:40 — Pete’s history with famous women & accusations of misogyny 32:00 — Emily Gellis vs. Tanya Zuckerbrot: the F-Factor lawsuit finally settles 37:00 — RHONY’s Hailey Glassman & her bizarre old DMs to Claudia Oshry 39:50 — Next Gen NYC: Ariana, Liam, Charlie Zakkour & Zach Bia 41:50 — Charlie Zakkour dated Lindsay Lohan?! 45:00 — DEOs & LEOs: streaming prices, spooky movies, SoCal heat & great waiters 52:00 — Patreon/WTS previews + outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TTPD is Christy and Rachel’s GOAT albums of TS, and we’re so excited to explain the lore in an incredibly in-depth, nearly two hour episode! Taylor Swift and Matty Healy were publicly together for only a few weeks in 2023—but their story was nearly a decade in the making (real Swiftiesk now). We trace their history from a backstage meeting in 2014 to their whirlwind reunion, then revisit Midnights and The Tortured Poets Department for clues about Joe Alwyn, Matty Healy and her long-awaited, anticipated romance, the backlash, and its implosion. Thank you to our sponsors! Find pieces made for real life with Wayfair. Join Wayfair Rewards to get five percent back on every purchase. Make your bed your favorite place to be this season with Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers. Get free shipping and 365-day returns. Head to Cure Hydration and use code SNARK for 20% off your order. Subscribe and save; you can pause or cancel anytime. Explore your style without commitment — get $28 OFF your first month of Nuuly by using code SNARK at Nuuly.com!  3 Million Butts Love TUSHY. For a limited time Get 10% off TUSHY with the code SNARK at hellotushy.com That scratched up pair has done its job. Upgrade today with Zenni! Go to zenni.com/podcast and use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order, plus free shipping on all US orders over $65. Wrap yourself in luxury with Lola Blankets! Use our code SNARK for 40% off LolaBlankets.com for a limited time Get ad-free and bonus episodes weekly on our Patreon — and don’t forget to sign up for our weekly newsletter!  Shop our merch!  Make sure to follow us on Instagram and watch full episodes on YouTube! @snarkbaitpod   @christynoel__ @soph_ross   FULL LINKS: Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/snarkbaitpod  Full video up on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@snarkbaitpod  Snark Bait Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/snarkbaitpod/  Christy’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/christynoel__/  Sophie’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/soph_ross/  Substack - https://substack.com/@snarkbaitpod  Merch - https://www.depop.com/snarkbaitpod/  Approximate Timestamps: Part 1: The Addendum 00:00 Intro: Recording an Addendum After Taylor's Surprise News 01:20 Patient Zero & the Encore Dropped Mid-Recording: Initial Reactions 03:20 Patient Zero's "Sterile Asylum" Aesthetic vs. the Encore's Flashy Reveal 07:25 Album Release Theories & the Summer I Turned Pretty Comparison 11:30 Debating the Encore & Favorite Eras Aesthetically 16:25 The Lavender Haze/Mad Men Connection Deep Dive 18:00 Closing Thoughts, the Truman Black/Joe Alwyn Connection & Outro Part 2: The Main Episode 23:40 Intro: Rachel Returns & Setting the Stage on Taylor & Maddie 27:30 Current Album Speculation: Debut Re-Release & November 10th Theories 32:50 Joe Alwyn's Truman Show Picture & the Gaylor Theories Tangent 37:00 Favorite Taylor Relationship Debate & "The Life of a Showgirl" Critique 41:45 Joe Alwyn as a Muse & Christy's "Maddie as OTP" Hot Take 47:30 The Origin Story: Meeting at a 1975 Concert & Early Courtship 53:45 A Friend's Insider Perspective & Disclaimer on Being a Critical Swiftie 57:00 The Quiet Reputation Era Through the 2023 Breakup & Eras Setlist Swap 1:00:10 April 8th: The Official Joe Breakup, Timed to Maddie's Birthday 1:03:00 The Public Proclamation Timeline & the Sudden June 2023 Breakup 1:05:45 Color Symbolism, the Romantic Gesture Theory & Midnights as a Breakup Album 1:09:15 "You're Losing Me," "Midnight Rain" & "The Great War" 1:14:30 "Question...?" & "Maroon": The Foxborough Surprise Song Tied to Maddie 1:16:55 TTPD as a "Postmortem": "So Long London" & Debating "loml" 1:21:25 "Guilty as Sin?," "Fresh Out the Slammer" & "But Daddy I Love Him" 1:26:00 Defending Her Choices & Questioning Taylor's Real Value System 1:31:00 "I Can Fix Him" & the Title Track's Direct Jack/Lucy References 1:35:00 Marriage Imagery, "Fortnite" & the Album's Downward Spiral 1:42:30 Voice Memo Alternate Lyrics They Wish She'd Kept 1:45:10 "I Can Get You Back" & the Wine-Name Coding 1:53:00 "The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived," "The Prophecy" & "The Manuscript" 2:01:10 Final Thoughts, Lighthearted Closer & Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to the best day of the week! Christy and Sophie are diving into all things “The Life of a Showgirl: The Encore” (warning Swifties, you may not like what we have to say…) plus some reality TV talk (“Next Gen NYC,” “The Traitors: New Blood”) and more!  Thank you to our sponsors! Find pieces made for real life with Wayfair. Join Wayfair Rewards to get five percent back on every purchase. Make your bed your favorite place to be this season with Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers. Get free shipping and 365-day returns. Head to Cure Hydration and use code SNARK for 20% off your order. Subscribe and save; you can pause or cancel anytime. Explore your style without commitment — get $28 OFF your first month of Nuuly by using code SNARK at Nuuly.com!  3 Million Butts Love TUSHY. For a limited time Get 10% off TUSHY with the code SNARK at hellotushy.com That scratched up pair has done its job. Upgrade today with Zenni! Go to zenni.com/podcast and use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order, plus free shipping on all US orders over $65. Wrap yourself in luxury with Lola Blankets! Use our code SNARK for 40% off LolaBlankets.com for a limited time Get ad-free and bonus episodes weekly on our Patreon — and don’t forget to sign up for our weekly newsletter!  Shop our merch!  Make sure to follow us on Instagram and watch full episodes on YouTube! @snarkbaitpod   @christynoel__ @soph_ross   FULL LINKS: Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/snarkbaitpod  Full video up on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@snarkbaitpod  Snark Bait Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/snarkbaitpod/  Christy’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/christynoel__/  Sophie’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/soph_ross/  Substack - https://substack.com/@snarkbaitpod  Merch - https://www.depop.com/snarkbaitpod/  Approximate Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: Sophie's back, thanks to Christy, Olivia and Rachel. Also the schedule (Thursday TTPD lore, Patreon Rachel AMA) and the merch update. 05:00 – Sophie ranks Taylor's recent albums and calls The Encore a new low. 08:20 – Why "Cleveland!" is so divisive. Streaming drop, exclamation-point titles, the negativity in the lyrics, and Swifties defending her. 17:50 – Taylor's "yes people," the Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina Carpenter tangent, and why she needs a break. 22:10 – The "Patient Zero" music video. They praise Colin Farrell and Dakota Johnson, then the Dakota/MGK gossip. 26:15 – "Patient Zero" theories and Easter eggs. Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas, Matty Healy, Scooter Braun, the 1986 gravestone, and the SNL clues. 32:20 – Lyric and vocal criticism. Meme-style lyrics, the talk-singing, and the Tolerate It comparison. 34:45 – Bravo talk. Tamra Judge, OC and Salt Lake City, and the Next Gen NYC reunion hot mic 42:30 – Traitors: New Blood, Sterling Point, the celebrity season cast, and why Christy never applied. 45:55 – VMAs recap. Taylor's look, the Artist Director Honors presented by Dakota Johnson, and theories that she'll move into film directing. 48:05 – DEO: loud slurping.  49:05 – LEO: stick with one airline. Delta vs. United, including the United flight incident,  53:30 – LEO: 90s erotic thrillers 54:40 – LEO: Christy's London photography story at Big Ben and Tower Bridge, plus photo-taking etiquette. 56:50 – Outro. Merch, Patreon and Substack reminders, then sign-off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of the most iconic Bachelorettes of all time parlayed her reality TV fame into a social media career before social media careers even existed.  Thank you to our sponsors! Explore your style without commitment — get $28 OFF your first month of Nuuly by using code SNARK at Nuuly.com!  3 Million Butts Love TUSHY. For a limited time Get 10% off TUSHY with the code SNARK at hellotushy.com  Ready to upgrade your home for way less? Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home and get your space ready for less! Make your summer bedding feel better. Go to Quince.com/SNARKBAIT for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns! Get ad-free and bonus episodes weekly on our Patreon — and don’t forget to sign up for our weekly newsletter! Make sure to follow us on Instagram and watch full episodes on YouTube! @snarkbaitpod   @christynoel__ @soph_ross   FULL LINKS: Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/snarkbaitpod  Full video up on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@snarkbaitpod  Snark Bait Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/snarkbaitpod/  Christy’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/christynoel__/  Sophie’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/soph_ross/  Substack https://substack.com/@snarkbaitpod  Approximate Timestamps: 00:00 Intro & Catch-Up (London Trip, Dumois App for Celebrity Spotting) 02:05 Subway Donut Mishap & Introducing Today's Topic: Ali Manno 06:15 Ali's Bachelor Origin: Jake Pavelka's Season & Gia Allemand Tribute 09:55 Ali's Season Stats, Jillian Harris Drama & Her Emotional Attempt to Return 15:00 Ali's Emotional Attempt to Return to the Show, Bachelor Nostalgia & Ali Named Season 6 Bachelorette 18:00 Roberto Martinez: Their Pairing & the Justin/Crutches Hotel Chase Scandal 21:25 Ali & Roberto's Post-Show Relationship & Broken Engagement 25:05 Post-Bachelorette Career: News Correspondent, Podcast & Meeting Kevin Manno 26:55 Ali & Kevin's Relationship, Wedding, Kids & Marriage Struggles 30:45 Moving to Nashville/Back to LA & Red Carpet Snub Stories (Gyllenhaal, Hugh Grant) 36:10 Ali's Old Blog & Nanny Shaming Backlash 38:10 Comparing Ali to Kaitlyn Bristowe & the Slut-Shaming Double Standard 44:15 CBD/THC Gummies Controversy & FOCL Equity Disclosure Issue 49:25 What Does Ali Do All Day? Golf Cart & Grocery Shopping Discourse 52:30 Begging for Engagement & Oversharing Her Kids' Health Issues 54:50 Kevin's Cancer Diagnosis, Pre-Nuvo Shilling & Her Dog Owen's Brain Tumor 1:00:45 Wellness Industry Shilling, Misogyny & Her Conservative Fanbase 1:03:55 Taylor Frankie Paul Tangent: Domestic Violence Allegations & Ali's Defense 1:07:35 Closing Thoughts & Patreon Recap/Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices