Yours For The Making with Robin Johnson

Robin Johnson sits down with Jeff McGurty, founder and owner of D&P Upholstery in Gateshead, one of the North East's most established bespoke upholstery businesses. Jeff built his company from a one-man band operating out of evenings and weekends into a seven-person team with a brand new, five times larger workshop in Team Valley. In this episode, Jeff and Robin pull back the curtain on the upholstery trade: a craft that is simultaneously a dark art, a dying art, and a business full of genuine opportunity for those who approach it with curiosity and commercial instinct. They cover the nuts and bolts of running a split commercial and domestic upholstery operation, the frustrations of dealing with premium fabric suppliers, the smart play of building a client base through interior designers, and the calculated growth decisions that took Jeff from moonlighting in a small unit to leading a team and developing a new product range under his own brand, Forme. If you work in the trades, run a craft business, or simply love hearing how skilled makers build real businesses from raw skill, this episode delivers.Key Topics CoveredThe realities of running a bespoke upholstery business in the UK todayWhy targeting interior designers is one of the smartest growth strategies in the tradesThe frustrations of dealing with high-end fabric suppliers and why cheaper fabrics often outperform expensive onesHow Jeff grew DNP Upholstery by buying an existing business, retaining its staff, and scaling it upThe role of AI visualisation software in transforming how designers and clients spec upholstery projectsThe modular sofa system that allows Jeff to offer 20 different designs without building 20 different sofasThe honest truth about taking on apprentices and the rising cost of employing peopleWhy hiring a floor manager was the single biggest change that unlocked business growthThe decline of British furniture manufacturing and what the upholstery trade looks like todayPlans for upholstery workshops open to the public and why they double as a powerful marketing toolJeff's advice for anyone wanting to get into upholstery as a careerEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Robin introduces Jeff McGurty and opens with the idea of upholstery as a dark art, hidden craft work that disguises whatever sits beneath it01:30 Jeff breaks down the 50/50 split between domestic re-upholstery and commercial bespoke seating, and how subcontracting frame-making keeps the operation lean02:35 The pair dig into the absurdity of dealing with premium fabric suppliers: week-long quotes, discontinued stock, and bureaucratic trade account processes that slow down real work04:12 Jeff compares expensive fabrics to designer brands and explains why mid-range fabrics with strong rub-test results often do a better job05:59 Jeff's origin story: Sports Science, two weeks of work experience as a PE teacher, and a summer job that changed everything08:11 The business decision that shaped Jeff's early growth: building relationships with interior designers rather than chasing direct-to-consumer work11:49 How Jeff ended up working above one of his interior designer clients, and the move that eventually led him to buy DNP Upholstery from its retiring founders Derek and Pam14:55 Jeff reveals the new modular sofa range being developed under the Form brand, including AI-powered fabric visualisation software built for trade-only use18:11 The clever modular arm system that lets Jeff show 20 distinct sofa designs using a single seat and back unit with interchangeable arms21:07 Robin's honest account of buying a sofa online and why he will never do it again23:39 The best cushion filling? Jeff argues for a foam core with a feather wrap: structure without the sag24:27 Jeff's most unusual project: a Chesterfield sofa made entirely from Paul Collingwood's cricket jerseys, each diamond panel featuring a different team badge27:29 Why employing people remains the hardest part of running the business, and what went wrong with previous apprentices29:08 A frank conversation about rising National Insurance contributions, minimum wage pressures, and the real cost of employment for small trade businesses33:52 The turning point: bringing on a business manager freed Jeff from admin and let him focus entirely on pricing and growth40:57 Introducing Forme: Jeff's new consumer brand, built around a British racing green and gold identity, with a trade website and AI fabric visualisation tool43:16 Jeff's advice for anyone wanting to get into upholstery: knock on doors, find the local hot spots, and stay curious50:43 Why TV programmes like The Repair Shop have helped raise public awareness and appreciation of upholstery as a craft51:06 Jeff announces plans for monthly public upholstery workshops at the new Team Valley premises

Robin Johnson speaks with furniture designer Katie Walker and designer Charlie Dedman about the collaboration behind Meon Furniture and the realities of modern British furniture making. The conversation explores design for manufacture, steam bending ash timber, CNC machining, sustainable forestry and the business decisions behind heirloom furniture. They discuss the shift from studio craft to batch production, the value of workshop knowledge, and the importance of constant product improvement through feedback and testing. The episode also examines the role of British timber, the impact of ash dieback on forestry, and the challenge of building furniture that will last for decades rather than years.Key Topics CoveredFurniture design collaboration between Katie Walker and Charlie DedmanThe launch and vision of the Meon Furniture brandSteam bending ash timber in chair makingDesign for manufacture and batch productionCNC machining in modern furniture workshopsBritish ash timber and the impact of ash diebackSustainable furniture production and responsible forestryB Corp certification and ethical manufacturingFurniture product development and continuous improvementThe difference between studio craft and commercial manufacturingBuilding heirloom furniture designed to last generationsEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introduction to Katie Walker and Charlie Dedman01:23 Origins of the Meon Furniture collaboration02:15 Katie Walker’s design education and Royal College background07:23 Designing furniture for CNC manufacture10:33 Learning woodworking skills through hands on training13:48 Steam bending ash timber for chair design17:21 Why ash timber is used for interior furniture18:52 British ash, forestry and ash dieback23:17 The history and reputation of Gaze Burvill furniture29:11 Designing joinery that reduces manufacturing time31:33 Designing sculptural furniture versus designing for production37:35 Product development and improving furniture over time41:27 Designing heirloom furniture built to last generations45:26 Launch strategy for Meon Furniture49:12 Why chair making is one of the hardest furniture disciplines50:48 Advice to younger designers entering the craft industry

In this episode of Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson speaks with Barnaby Ash and Dru Plumb of Plumb and Ash about their rise from garage woodturning to exhibiting at TEFAF New York. They discuss Greco Roman influences, sculptural wood vessels, working with green oak, embracing cracks and stitch work, targeting high end galleries, and building a profitable craft business through strategy, research and relentless refinement.Key Topics Covered• Woodturning and contemporary wood sculpture• Greco Roman classicism and design history influence• Storytelling in art and craft practice• Working with green oak, cracks and natural movement• Stitching wood vessels and visible mending techniques• Transition from craft fairs to international art fairs• Targeting high end galleries and collectors• Pricing strategy and value in the art market• Creative partnership and studio roles• Burnout, pressure and creative flow state• Building a sustainable craft business in the UK• Future plans including blacksmithing and workshop expansionEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introduction to Plumb and Ash and their sculptural woodturning01:06 Greco Roman influences and design research03:17 Storytelling, symbolism and emotional impact in sculpture08:46 Starting out with a second hand lathe and garage workshop16:18 Moving from functional objects to sculptural vessels17:48 Targeting high end galleries and strategic growth22:24 Pressure, ambition and creative risk25:01 Division of roles in a creative partnership27:32 Working with green oak, cracks and stitched repairs34:55 Complex sculptural handles and pushing technical limits38:43 Milestones including Collect, museum acquisitions and TEFAF51:13 Plans for a new woodland workshop56:05 Burnout, deadlines and creative obsession59:51 Making work that feels beyond your own ability01:00:57 Advice to their eighteen year old selves

In this episode of Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson speaks with Brandon Collins of Crabtree and Hargreeves about building a profitable bespoke kitchen and furniture business in the UK. Brandon shares how he transitioned from antique restoration with his father into high end bespoke kitchens, how he named his company for brand positioning and search clarity, and why hand painted finishes outperform spray finishes in durability and long term maintenance. He explains how investing in CNC machinery and Cabinet Vision software improved accuracy, efficiency and client communication, and he discusses pricing, managing growth, recruiting skilled cabinet makers and protecting craftsmanship in a technology driven world. This episode will resonate with furniture makers, joiners, kitchen designers, cabinet makers and small workshop owners who want practical insight into scaling a bespoke furniture business while maintaining quality and creative control.Key Topics Covered• Transition from antique restoration to bespoke kitchens• Brand naming strategy for cabinet makers and furniture businesses• Hand painted kitchen finishes versus spray finishes• CNC machines in small woodworking workshops• Using Cabinet Vision software for cabinetry design and production• Growth challenges in bespoke furniture businesses• Pricing, margins and workshop efficiency• Skills gap in cabinet making and joinery• Human judgement in bespoke craftsmanship• Client expectations in high end kitchen designEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Brand Origin and Business Evolution03:25 Transition from Antiques to Bespoke Furniture06:26 Challenges and Opportunities in the Furniture Industry15:27 Hand-Painted Finishes and Quality Control24:32 Technological Advancements and Efficiency 55:24 The Role of Technology in Bridging Skills Gaps55:47 The Importance of Creativity and Craftsmanship56:05 The Future of the Furniture Industry56:26 Advice for Aspiring Furniture Makers01:00:21 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Robin Johnson speaks with Louis Rhoades of Louis Rhoades Studio about scaling a bespoke joinery business from a one man workshop to a structured, design led studio. They break down pricing to the penny, profitability between two and four staff, why growth from four to ten is brutal, and how value beats cost when you invest in CNC, spray finishing and FUGA Hydro substrates. This episode tackles hospitality versus residential work, outsourcing risk, honest client communication, proportion in design, and the stress that comes with ambition. A direct conversation between two workshop owners on craftsmanship, margins, ethics and long term thinking in British furniture making.Key Topics CoveredScaling from solo maker to small teamProfitability at two to four staff versus four to tenDay rate calculation using fixed and variable overheadsHospitality niche versus high end residential pricingValue versus cost in bespoke joineryCNC machining, solid edge banding and spray booth investmentHydro Fuga MDF and veneered constructionDesign first process and shop drawingsOutsourcing risk and quality controlProportion, symmetry and timeless furniture designStress, cash flow fear and business resilienceEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Scaling from one man workshop to small team04:25 Why employing friends rarely works08:09 Hospitality versus residential pricing realities11:07 Value proposition and stepping away from tenders24:58 Outsourcing failures and bringing processes in house30:12 Investing in CNC and spray finishing for output and control33:57 Calculating day rates and defining real value45:15 Design ethics, legacy and avoiding disposable furniture01:01:12 Hydro Fuga, veneering and modern wardrobe design01:17:42 Craft standards, minor defects and client honesty01:21:37 Advice to a younger self on stress and growth

In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with Louisa Pacifico, founder of Future Icons about how makers turn skill into a viable business without undercutting their value. Louisa explains why premium craft succeeds through fewer higher value sales rather than volume, and why many artisans struggle because they price emotionally rather than commercially. The conversation covers gallery relationships, press strategy licensing contracts and the importance of knowing when to say no. Louisa also discusses her role curating Future Icons Selects during London Craft Week and how makers should approach shows with clarity, purpose and realistic expectations. This episode offers practical insight for craftspeople who want longevity rather than noise.Key Topics CoveredWhat Future Icons does for established makersPricing premium craft correctlyUnderstanding audience and market fitFewer sales higher margins business modelWhy saying no protects long term valueGallery introductions and exhibition strategyLicensing work with international brandsLegal contracts and intellectual propertyPress coverage and media positioningApprenticeships internships and education routesFunding grants and bursaries for makersCurating Future Icons Selects for London Craft WeekEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 What Future Icons does and why it exists03:00 Pricing problems in the craft sector08:44 Knowing when not to do a show15:27 Value based pricing versus cheap tenders20:20 Learning business by doing24:55 Funding education and apprenticeships34:52 Curating Future Icons Selects42:08 Regional buyers and gallery strategy50:46 Advice to young makers52:10 How to contact Louisa & Future Icons

In this episode of Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson speaks with Marina Dragomirova and Iain Howlett, founders of Studio Furthermore about their Moon Rock Project and the long road of material driven design. They explain how six years of experimentation led to an aluminium foam made from recycled car wheels and how that material became a cabinet unveiled in Miami that shocked audiences when opened. The conversation covers material failure, foundry collaboration, storytelling in collectible design and the limits of photography in conveying physical work. Marina and Iain also discuss gallery relationships, sustainability futurism and their next chapter working with Japanese craftsmen on laminated plywood furniture. This episode offers a clear view of how new materials become meaningful objects through patience, research and conviction.Key Topics CoveredThe Moon Rock Project and aluminium foam developmentUsing recycled car wheels as raw materialDesigning furniture through material researchCreating shock and transformation through formFoundry collaboration and long term partnershipsPushing thinness scale and structural limitsArt furniture fairs and collector audiencesStorytelling in collectible designSustainability futurism and science driven aestheticsWorking with galleries and curatorsThe limits of photography and the need for physical experienceNew work with Japanese craftsmen and plywood furnitureEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introducing Studio Furthermore and Moon Rock03:58 The Miami cabinet and the shock reveal07:01 Foundry collaboration and process control13:11 Scaling up and thinking beyond furniture20:38 Early ceramic foam experiments35:10 RCA influence and material research46:18 Storytelling and selling collectible design1:01:19 Working with Japanese craftsmen1:08:27 Failure as fuel for new ideas1:10:19 Why physical galleries still matter

In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with Steve Briggs, founder of Briggs and Sons Masonry about conservation led stone masonry and the realities of scaling a heritage business. Steve explains why retaining original fabric matters, how church and listed building work demands restraint and judgement, and why replacement comes last. The conversation covers running a contracting arm alongside a consultancy for listed homes, navigating consent and surveys, training the next generation, and choosing culture and quality over rapid turnover. This episode offers a grounded view of craft led growth in the UK heritage sector.Key Topics CoveredChurch restoration and heritage conservationRetaining original fabric in historic buildingsStone masonry brickwork leadwork and roofsListed building consents surveys and maintenance plansRunning contracting and consultancy businesses togetherRejecting short term fixes in favour of longevityTraining trainees and paying for learning timeScaling from small teams to sustainable growthProtecting company culture during expansionCustomer care over chasing turnoverLearning craft through family and experienceThe future of heritage skills in the UKEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introducing Steve Briggs and conservation masonry02:10 Keeping original fabric wherever possible05:40 Church restoration realities09:15 Running contracting and consultancy work13:30 Listed building consents and surveys18:45 Scaling teams and managing growth pain24:20 Training trainees properly30:05 Culture over turnover35:40 Learning craft through family41:10 Sustainability in heritage businesses46:30 Attracting the next generation

In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with Robin Redmile-Gordon, Director of Ichi-Coo Park, about building a life shaped by creativity and long term thinking. Robin shares how transforming Russ Hill Farm into a vast garden and living artwork helped him stay sane while running a global IT company. The conversation moves through craftsmanship collaboration and why clear briefs unlock exceptional work from skilled people. Robin offers a blunt critique of modern education and exam driven learning, argues for apprenticeships rooted in real work, and explains why holistic learning matters more than qualifications. Robin also discusses AI as a practical tool for thinking diagnosis and productivity, shares his experience of living with terminal blood cancer and the role of Turkey Tail mushrooms, and outlines ideas for a future where skills, purpose and creativity matter more than bureaucracy. This episode challenges conventional thinking and defends making as a meaningful way to live.Key Topics CoveredBuilding Itchy Park as a living artworkLong term collaboration with craftspeopleValue over cost in bespoke workClear briefs and creative freedomGardening as a form of artEscaping stress through making and landscapeApprenticeships and skills based learningFailures of exam focused educationHolistic learning and curiosity driven teachingTeaching through real work not theoryAI as a practical tool for thinking and diagnosisCritique of fear around artificial intelligenceLiving with terminal blood cancerTurkey Tail mushrooms and blood healthPurpose identity and creating meaningful workClip Fest and community making eventsEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Ichi-Coo Park and its origins02:26 The heart shaped island story05:19 Working with skilled craftspeople07:57 Value over cost in making12:14 Building to protect sanity17:25 Apprenticeships and skills gaps27:03 Holistic learning and curiosity38:48 AI as a working tool51:36 AI and health diagnosis56:19 Living with blood cancer1:06:39 Skills across generations1:23:18 Clip Fest 2026

In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with furniture designer Sam Kille about his route from military service into bespoke furniture making. Sam explains how carpentry and joinery in the Royal Engineers shaped his discipline precision and approach to craft. He talks openly about running a furniture business with a partner, stepping away during Covid, and returning with a clearer sense of direction. The conversation covers Scandinavian and Japanese influences, heirloom quality furniture, and the realities of selling bespoke work in the UK. Sam also discusses pricing honestly, choosing the right clients, diversifying income through kitchen work, and why furniture should last generations. This episode offers a grounded view of what it takes to build a sustainable furniture practice without shortcuts.Key Topics CoveredMoving from the military into furniture makingCarpentry and joinery as a foundation skillDiscipline precision and craft standardsScandinavian and Japanese furniture influencesBuilding heirloom quality furnitureRunning and closing a furniture partnershipDiversifying income through kitchens and joinerySelling bespoke furniture in the UK marketPricing work realisticallyChoosing clients carefullyLong term value of quality furnitureApprenticeships traditional skills and teachingWork life balance and four day workingIdentity ownership and returning to furniture makingEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introduction to Sam Kille and his background01:10 Military training and carpentry trade02:38 Starting a furniture business with a partner03:39 Closing the business and stepping away04:29 Design influences and visual language05:30 Sam’s design process and sketching06:10 Diversifying skills to survive financially08:40 Selling bespoke furniture and pricing reality09:02 Heirloom quality and long term value10:26 Family legacy and inherited furniture10:55 Discipline from military life13:08 Working with clients and trust15:51 Saying no and choosing the right work18:18 Timber choices and material preference25:07 Pricing honesty and time value27:00 Apprenticeships and traditional joinery skills31:40 Continuous professional development39:44 Four day working week43:00 Identity and business ownership45:38 Advice to younger makers47:45 Where to find Sam’s work

In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with South London furniture designer Laurent Peacock about his route from industrial design into bespoke furniture making. Laurent explains why mass production left him cold and how working directly with wood gave him clarity and purpose. He talks openly about earning the Guild Mark and the validation it brought both personally and professionally.The conversation explores the tension between form and function in contemporary furniture design, the pressure to build a recognisable style, and the reality of making work that must last as well as look right. Laurent also shares his discomfort with self promotion, his approach to exhibitions, and why tactility and physical interaction sit at the centre of his work. This episode offers a clear and honest view of what it takes to build a sustainable practice in high quality furniture making.Key Topics CoveredMoving from industrial design to furniture makingThe role of wood as a tactile and approachable materialAchieving the Guild Mark and what it representsValidation skill and confidence in craftBuilding a network within the woodworking communityThe gap between functional furniture and art furnitureBalancing form function and longevityThe challenge of storytelling in furniture designExhibitions galleries and visibilityPromoting work without compromising valuesDeveloping a recognisable creative identityTactility interaction and physical engagement with furnitureEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introduction to Laurent Peacock and his background00:34 Early fascination with making and design02:20 Industrial design and dissatisfaction with mass production03:31 Discovering furniture making and working with wood05:10 Submitting work for the Guild Mark06:45 Validation confidence and opening professional doors08:52 Community support within woodworking12:10 Struggles with promotion and visibility15:51 The divide between galleries and functional furniture18:58 Storytelling versus build quality21:34 Process driven design and material exploration25:27 Longevity function and criticism of fragile art furniture30:39 Finding position on the form and function spectrum36:09 Experimentation play and constraints40:05 Searching for a coherent creative story45:29 Hiding technique and letting form speak49:19 What buyers respond to at exhibitions56:51 Tactility interaction and physical experience1:02:05 Accessibility value and pricing reality1:03:40 Advice to his eighteen year old self1:05:28 Where to see Laurent’s work

This episode of Yours for the Making dives deep into the world of chainsaw sculptor Ella Fielding. Her story offers a clear view of how creativity takes shape when instinct, physical craft and neurodiversity come together. Robin Johnson talks with Ella about her early start in sculpture, the impact of dyslexia and ADHD on her creative thinking, and her discovery of a fast and intuitive way of working with wood. Ella explains the emotional experience of carving fallen trees for clients, the practical challenges of working with different timbers and the therapeutic presence she feels when cutting. She also explores the flaws of traditional education, the value of hands-on learning, the influence of play, and the importance of making without the pressure to display or impress. This is a grounded and honest conversation that celebrates the maker mindset and the spirit of curiosity that drives creative work.Key Topics CoveredElla’s journey into sculpture and chainsaw carvingThe impact of dyslexia and ADHD on creative problem solvingLimitations of traditional art education and the value of practical learningThe importance of play in early creativityMindfulness through physical craft and focused makingWorking with different types of wood and the challenges each one presentsHow personal stories and environments shape commissioned piecesThe emotional role of tree carving and honouring fallen treesSocial media use for creative community buildingBuilding confidence in handmade work without public pressureEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introduction to Ella and her unique creative path00:52 Discovering chainsaw carving during her sculpture degree04:30 Finding confidence through fast and instinctive making05:47 The uncertainty of a career in fine art09:19 Ella leaves school at 14 and discovers hands on learning13:02 Discussion on the flaws in the education system18:26 Creativity, play and permission to fail20:51 The joy and discovery that happens through making21:10 How the tree itself shapes the final sculpture23:19 The emotional process of carving fallen trees25:48 How Ella designs commissions that reflect people and place26:24 The influence of neurodiversity on her creative life33:34 The sensory link between materials and creativity36:50 The importance of making without public pressure40:20 Mindfulness and presence in chainsaw carving43:37 The role of surfing and making in mental clarity48:51 Working with different types of wood52:18 Respect for ancient trees and the emotional impact of loss55:38 Public commissions and where to see Ella’s work57:22 Social media and creative community59:20 Advice Ella would give her eighteen year old self

In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with Lindsey and Rik Goodman about designing building and running Looking Glass Lodge in Fairlight East Sussex. The conversation follows their journey from an early idea of a small shepherd style retreat to delivering a striking glass fronted woodland lodge with near full occupancy. Lindsey and Rik explain the influence of family history and woodland stewardship on the design, the planning challenges of building in an area of outstanding natural beauty, and the financial pressure created by specialist glass requirements and rising material costs during Covid. They discuss sourcing locally, designing for calm rather than activity, switching from build mode to marketing overnight, and learning what guests actually value. This episode gives a clear view of the emotional financial and practical reality of building a high end retreat in the UK countryside.Key Topics CoveredCreating a woodland lodge in Fairlight East SussexFamily history land stewardship and local contextMoving from shepherd hut idea to full lodge buildPlanning permission in protected landscapesSustainable building choices and ground screw foundationsSpecialist glass and wildlife light controlBudget pressure and borrowing decisionsImpact of Covid on building materials and timelinesHands on building and project managementInterior design biophilic principles and tactilitySwitching from construction to marketingGuest experience calm privacy and doing nothingLocal suppliers community support and repeat guestsFinancial viability occupancy rates and long term valueEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introducing Looking Glass Lodge and its location01:10 Family history and woodland background02:33 The original shepherd hut idea03:41 Design ambition grows with the site04:25 Location led design and woodland immersion05:32 Planning permission challenges06:41 Wildlife protection glass and light control07:27 Budget pressure and committing to the build08:23 Covid impact on material costs09:14 Stress coordination and competing priorities10:03 Mental strain during the build12:53 Deadline pressure and opening on time14:00 Transition from building to marketing15:26 First guest feedback and confidence16:52 Supporting local suppliers and makers17:47 Designing for rest not activity19:14 Guest behaviour and repeat bookings20:05 Research inspiration and Scandinavian influence21:17 Biophilic design and material choices23:11 Interior decisions and practical compromises25:14 Would they build again27:28 Financial reality and sustainability28:12 Occupancy rates and success32:14 Guest privacy and low contact hosting38:35 Advice for anyone building a retreat39:06 Research commitment and loving the project40:06 Advice to their younger selves42:14 Where to find and book the lodge

Robin Johnson talks with master marquetarian and teacher Audrey Fasquelle in a detailed exploration of the craft, technique and mindset behind one of the most demanding decorative arts. Audrey shares her journey from early cabinet making in France to advanced marquetry for luxury vehicles, along with her teaching roles at Farnham, West Dean and Robinson House Studio. She explains how veneers behave, how grain direction shapes outcomes, how colours and undertones must be read correctly and why mistakes should be expected and embraced. This episode highlights the real labour behind fine marquetry, the problem solving required for curved work, the rising interest in handmade detail and the importance of slowing down, preparing carefully and training your eye. A clear and honest look at a craft that rewards patience, precision and obsession with detail. Key Topics CoveredWhat marquetry is and why it behaves like a wood based jigsawHow Audrey trained across cabinet making, wood turning and carvingWhy veneers break and how to avoid grain related failuresHow colour undertones in wood influence design choicesHow to cut, prepare and assemble intricate patterns by handThe value of slow work, patience and a prepared mindsetWhat it takes to teach marquetry at West Dean, Farnham and Robinson HouseHow luxury car interiors use high level marquetry in curved formsWhy detailed work demands acceptance of mistakesHow Audrey became a recognised master in her fieldHow long detailed marquetry really takes from drawing to pressingWhy the craft continues to evolve through new materials and flexible veneersEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 What marquetry is and why it works like a jigsaw01:20 How veneers behave and why pressing technique matters03:30 Grain direction and why most beginners snap their first pieces05:40 Patience, preparation and understanding imperfections07:05 Audrey’s journey from cabinet making to marquetry training11:20 Difference between marquetry and parquetry13:10 Early career challenges and failed attempts at a marquetry business in France15:20 Working at Silverlining and later moving into luxury automotive marquetry17:40 Creative demands of high level bespoke interiors19:10 Learning laser cutting to support modern marquetry practice20:00 Teaching at West Dean and adapting to different student personalities26:40 Speaking for woodworker guilds and joining the Farnham teaching team31:00 Teaching at Robinson House Studio and learning to handle student frustration35:00 Balancing full time work with her own studio practice39:20 Key projects that shaped her career including a complex degree piece43:00 Turning stacked veneer blocks into patterned drinking vessels49:50 How long detailed marquetry takes from design to finish52:40 How colour undertones influence veneer selection55:00 Techniques for curved marquetry and flexible veneer applications58:40 Advice to her younger self about patience and persistence01:01:10 Becoming a recognised master marquetarian and where to find her coursesKeywords:marquetry, veneer work, fine woodworking, decorative woodcraft, cabinet making, parquetry, veneer cutting, grain direction, luxury craft, handmade furniture detail, West Dean College, Farnham School of Art, Robinson House Studio, Silverlining, luxury car interiors, curved marquetry, flexible veneers, creative woodwork, woodworking education, artisan training, traditional crafts, British craft podcast, Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson, master maker, creative process, wood textures, veneer preparation, marquetry tools, hand cut marquetry

Robin Johnson sits down with Biesse Sales Manager Mark Trapnell for a detailed look at manufacturing, production flow, tooling decisions, CNC capability and the practical realities of running a modern workshop. Mark shares his journey from apprentice heavy goods mechanic to senior roles across major manufacturing businesses before moving into machinery consultancy. He explains why understanding process flow, input quality, tooling choices and skill sets matters more than any single machine. This episode gives clear insight into lean thinking, production efficiency, value stream mapping and what small makers should consider before investing in CNC machinery. A grounded conversation full of practical advice for anyone working with wood, materials or complex workshop processes.Key Topics CoveredHow Mark moved from heavy goods engineering into large scale wood manufacturingLessons from mass production and why seconds matter when scaling outputHow lean thinking applies to small artisan workshopsValue stream mapping and why wasted movement destroys efficiencyThe real cost of poor tooling and why the cheapest cutters can damage qualityHow to decide if your workshop is ready for CNCWhy skill shortages are shaping the future of makingExpanding into stone, glass and advanced materialsWhat a first time CNC buyer must evaluate before spending moneyHow Biesse machines support small and mid sized makers with complex workflows Enjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Mark’s background and early career in heavy goods engineering04:00 Moving into woodworking and large scale pine furniture manufacturing08:30 Training, City and Guilds progression and early CNC exposure12:00 Managing teams, production flow and why seconds matter at scale17:50 Lean principles and the importance of correct input processes21:30 Cutting waste, skip costs and understanding value stream mapping25:20 Why lean is pointless without clear information from designers and clients29:50 The reality of manufacturing for prisons and major tier one contractors33:40 Lessons from running workshops without formal training38:30 Complex refurbishment projects including House of Lords benches42:00 Joining Biesse and why real production experience matters in sales46:30 Choosing the right CNC and why Mark refuses to oversell machines49:10 Should small makers consider stone and advanced materials52:00 What first time machine buyers must understand before investing55:30 Why skilled labour plus CNC creates the strongest workflow59:40 Advice for young makers and why you must take opportunities

Furniture designer Stephen Clark from Clark & Co joins Robin Johnson for a detailed look at how real product design works behind the glossy brochures. Stephen explains the journey from university projects to designing mass market furniture for major retailers and then shifting into high end bespoke manufacturing. He talks openly about the pressure of designing for different budgets, why accessible good design matters, and how storytelling and communication shape every product that reaches a customer. This conversation breaks down the creative process, the reality of British manufacturing, the rise of AI in design, and the responsibility designers carry when their work ends up in thousands of homes. It is a practical and honest guide for makers, designers and anyone who wants to understand how furniture is really made.Key Topics CoveredHow Stephen Clark found his way into furniture designWhat retail design actually involves and how budgets shape everythingThe difference between designing for Argos, Homebase and NextTransitioning into bespoke, handmade, high end furnitureStarting Clark and Co and building a design business from scratchThe importance of understanding the customer journeyHow storytelling, photography and marketing drive salesBalancing creative vision with manufacturing constraintsHow AI and augmented reality are changing product designWhy communication is the most important design skillStephen’s vision for future British design and commercial rangesEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introduction to Stephen Clark and how he found furniture design00:53 Moving from university into retail with Home Retail Group03:01 What it takes to design for different retailers and budgets03:42 Shifting into bespoke manufacturing with Friend Group08:54 Why Stephen started Clark and Co and changed direction11:26 Understanding the customer journey and design communication17:29 Balancing high end design with budget and manufacturing constraints25:21 How AI supports the workflow of modern designers34:46 Using augmented reality to help customers visualise furniture40:57 Stephen’s future plans and long term design vision

Jacob Lockwood joins Robin Johnson to unpack the reality of building a premium clothing brand in Britain at a time when most of the industry has outsourced its craft. Jacob explains how he turned his military needs into a business that now designs and manufactures high grade British smocks using Cordura, Harris Tweed and UK sourced materials. He talks openly about the real cost of making things properly in the UK, the struggle to find skilled machinists, the shift in consumer mindset towards buying fewer but better items, and the pressure of scaling a product while refusing to compromise on quality. Jacob also shares how he built traction without an agency, the role of social media in driving demand, and his vision to grow a British brand that stands for durability, skill and long term value.Key Topics CoveredBuilding premium British smocks from military experienceWhy Jacob refused to outsource manufacturing overseasThe rising demand for durable and long lasting clothingThe challenge of sourcing UK materials and skilled labourThe financial reality of British manufacturingHow social media drives high intent customersHow to build a brand through trust and product integrityWhy British craftsmanship still mattersFuture plans for new product lines and expansionPersonal lessons from building a business from scratchEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introduction to Jacob and the story behind Lockwood Premium British Smocks2:11 How military experience shaped his design philosophy4:18 Why consumers are shifting towards premium clothing7:35 The true cost and difficulty of British manufacturing10:24 The challenge of finding skilled British makers13:38 When a brand must slow down to protect quality14:10 The role of social media in attracting loyal buyers22:40 Why he refuses to compromise on materials34:32 Future product plans and ambitions for the brand37:50 Lessons Jacob learned while building the business1:06:45 The wider impact of UK manufacturing on the economy1:08:07 Final thoughts and Jacob’s long term vision

James Burtt joins Robin Johnson to share his remarkable journey from a failed radio presenter and cabaret singer to becoming one of the UK’s leading podcast producers. Having launched almost 200 shows—with 98% charting on iTunes—James reveals the strategies behind creating, growing, and monetising successful podcasts. He breaks down why podcasting is the most underused marketing tool for businesses, how authenticity drives long-term results, and why most creators quit before the breakthrough. From early missteps in radio to building Phonic, a thriving podcast production agency, this episode is packed with straight-talking advice for creators, entrepreneurs, and brands who want to stand out through storytelling.Key Topics CoveredHow James turned failure in radio into podcast successThe early mistakes that shaped his career and business mindseThe real reason most podcasts fail before episode sevenHow to monetise a podcast without relying on adsBuilding brand authority and trust through consistent contentThe importance of guest selection and audience alignmentBehind-the-scenes of launching 189 charting showsAdvice for aspiring podcasters: start now, get perfect laterEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 – Robin introduces podcast producer James Burtt03:25 – From failed radio presenter to discovering podcasting05:55 – How Phonic was born during the pandemic07:18 – How to monetise a podcast without ads12:15 – The power of guest selection and tactical networking17:22 – Why you don’t need fancy equipment to start a podcast21:41 – Lessons from Steven Bartlett and Joe Rogan’s rise26:45 – Why most creators give up too soon30:45 – The importance of authenticity in building an audience39:00 – How to choose the right guests for long-term growth46:49 – Advice for aspiring podcasters: define your version of success53:36 – The truth about content quality and audience fit56:39 – Life advice: stickability, consistency, and learning your craft1:00:49 – Why persistence always wins

In this episode of Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson sits down with tree surgeon, timber framer, and chainsaw instructor James Vann for a grounded, unfiltered conversation about the life of a modern woodsman. From growing up on a Kent farm to working across Europe in forestry and learning the craft of timber framing, James has built a life around the forest. He talks about the danger and discipline of felling trees, the devastation of ash dieback, and the importance of sustainable woodland management. The conversation dives into deer stalking, ethical hunting, the use of local timber, and the undervalued nature of tree work as a trade. This is an honest portrait of a man who lives by the seasons, works with nature, and finds meaning in hard work, good tools, and doing things properly.Key Topics CoveredHow James built a life around forestry and woodcraftGrowing up on a farm and starting a firewood business at 15Working in forestry across Europe and learning global approaches to woodland managementThe dangers and unpredictability of tree surgery and felling ash dieback treesThe moral dilemmas of felling old trees in modern landscapingDeer stalking and sustainable hunting for food and forest balanceThe challenges of competing with imported timberThe value of local woodland management and native speciesTimber framing and building with green woodThe undervalued culture of forestry and manual trades in the UKLessons in focus, skill mastery, and self-relianceEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 – Robin introduces James Vann, a craftsman of the forest02:00 – Starting a firewood business as a teenager and learning through graft03:16 – Working abroad and discovering a global community of foresters05:38 – The dangers and discipline of tree surgery07:59 – Understanding and managing ash dieback in British woodlands11:00 – The role of deer in forest health and biodiversity13:40 – Hunting in Australia and the ethics of sustainable hunting17:45 – Butchering, processing, and cooking wild game21:00 – How hunting changed James’s relationship with food32:35 – Shifting from furniture making to timber framing34:20 – Milling, framing, and building with local oak37:05 – The moral conflict of felling healthy trees41:06 – The obsession with imported timber and monoculture forestry44:17 – Chestnut coppicing, undervalued crafts, and the cost of cheap timber47:11 – Why forestry work is undervalued and misunderstood50:28 – Competing with European oak and imported timber53:50 – Moving into training and forestry education55:07 – Reflections on Kings of the Wood and lessons from TV work57:16 – Advice to his younger self: focus, commit, and master one craft

In this episode of Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson speaks with furniture maker and educator Jarrad Belton, known as the “worker of wood”. Jarrad shares his journey from leaving college unsure of his path to discovering carpentry, mastering timber machining, and retraining as a fine furniture maker. He opens up about the reality of working in an undervalued trade, the discipline it takes to master hand tools, and why passion must come before profit in any creative career. Jarrad discusses sustainability in timber sourcing, the ethics of using tropical hardwoods, and how he teaches new makers to respect their materials from forest to finished form. The conversation explores the delicate balance between creative ambition and commercial reality, the challenge of developing a unique design identity, and the enduring joy of working with your hands.Key Topics CoveredJarrad’s journey from carpentry to fine furniture makingWhy passion outweighs profit in craft careersSustainability and the ethics of timber sourcingThe importance of using native species and understanding tree ecologyTeaching the next generation of furniture makers at Farnham SchoolThe value of exhibitions and building reputation through word of mouthBalancing hand tools with machine efficiencyFinding your creative voice and developing a recognisable styleThe discipline and satisfaction of working with raw materialsLessons on self-worth, pricing, and not underselling your craftEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 – Robin introduces Jarrad Belton and his early start at English Woodlands02:00 – How carpentry replaced a career in motorbike mechanics04:25 – Retraining in furniture making and finding purpose in craft07:05 – Why apprenticeships and furniture courses are disappearing16:00 – The sense of community in traditional craft17:30 – Jarrad’s design philosophy and inspiration from nature20:00 – Timber ethics and the dangers of unsustainable forestry24:00 – Lessons from French silviculture and biodiversity in woodlands39:00 – Starting a furniture business and learning the value of your time44:15 – The struggle for recognition as an independent maker54:11 – How to price work without underselling your craft58:41 – Comparing craftsmanship to car making and industrial design1:02:48 – Designing for nature and impermanence1:04:08 – The challenge of originality and creative identity1:08:05 – Lessons from sculptor Philip Walker on aesthetics and intuition1:10:04 – Balancing machines and hand tools in modern furniture making1:13:33 – Teaching apprentices the importance of hand skills1:16:45 – Jarrad’s advice to his 18-year-old self: stop comparing1:18:31 – Exhibitions, galleries, and where to find Jarrad’s work