So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People

What if imposter syndrome isn’t actually about confidence? In this mini episode, Megan Senese explores the deeper roots of imposter syndrome, the belief that “I’m not good enough”, and how the comparison trap and internal narratives shape whether lawyers put themselves forward or stay on the sidelines. Recognizing your own value isn’t just personal work, it’s a professional strategy. The lawyers who believe in their value are the ones who step forward, build relationships, and ultimately generate business.Who this episode is for:Lawyers and legal marketers navigating imposter syndromeLawyers and professionals comparing themselves to others’ credentials or successPeople working to rebuild confidence in their voice or abilitiesLawyers ready to shift the narrative they tell themselves and step forward professionallyEpisode takeaways:How the belief “I’m not good enough” quietly fuels imposter syndromeHow the comparison trap (law schools, firms, titles, and status) drives self-doubtWhy even highly accomplished lawyers still struggle with imposter syndromeHow the stories you repeat to yourself shape your confidence and professional identityOne simple daily exercise to retrain your brain and start rebuilding self-confidenceHow to start shifting the “not good enough” narrative:Notice the story you’re telling yourself: Imposter syndrome often begins with internal dialogueChallenge the comparison trap: Someone else’s credentials don’t define your worthRecognize shared insecurity: Even the people you admire question themselvesInterrupt the negative loop: What you repeatedly tell yourself becomes beliefWrite down one good thing about yourself each day: Small affirmations retrain your brain to think differentlyStay Connected:Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyEmail stage at info@stage.guideLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

“Trust is fundamentally about you do what you say you’ll do.” - Jessica NguyenHow do you get 2,200+ legal professionals to show up for a contracts webinar? In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast for People, Jessica Nguyen, Deputy General Counsel of AI Innovation & Trust at DocuSign and Head of Contract Nerds, joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to pull back the curtain on why most law firm marketing completely misses the mark, how DocuSign is using AI to build deeper trust with its clients, and the one outside law firm that truly stood out to her, and what one lawyer did that was different from every other law firm competing for attention.From building one of the most engaged contracts communities in legal to helping shape AI strategy inside a global tech company, Jessica shares what actually creates momentum, and what kills it.In this episode, you’ll hear directly from a Deputy General Counsel about:Why Contract Nerds consistently attracts thousands of lawyers and what lessons you can apply to your next webinarHow community becomes a long-term growth engine — not just a mailing listWhat in-house counsel actually look for when hiring outside counsel The positioning shifts that make lawyers stand out instead of blend inThe CLE mistakes all law firms make and how to change itWhy legal services feel commoditized and how to break that cycleHow AI can 10x your legal productivity without replacing your judgmentWhy consistent execution, not just branding is what builds real client trustThe role gratitude plays in sustaining a long-term legal careerThis conversation is for lawyers who want a clearer understanding on how to attract the right clients—without chasing, posturing, or relying on generic marketing tactics. About Jessica Nguyen:Jessica Nguyen is Deputy General Counsel of AI Innovation & Trust at DocuSign and Head of Contract Nerds, a global community serving thousands of contracts and legal professionals. A seasoned in-house leader and former Chief Legal Officer, Jessica focuses on customer-centric innovation at the intersection of AI, agreements, and trust.She also hosts the In-House podcast, where she interviews legal leaders about influence, career pivots, and building a meaningful in-house career.Stay Connected:Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. If you’re navigating BigLaw pressure, struggling with business development or marketing decisions and want a confidential thinking partner, connect with us here: Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyEmail stage at info@stage.guide

What does it take to be successful? As stage closes out its third year in business, Megan Senese reflects on what has actually fueled growth, and it might not be what you think. In this mini episode, she shares why showing up consistently, a little bit every day, is what compounds into real business development and sustainable success.Who this episode is for:Lawyers building their book of businessFounders navigating early years of entrepreneurshipProfessionals frustrated by not being the “strategy” or “influencer” typeAnyone questioning whether steady effort really mattersEpisode takeaways:Why discipline might be your most underrated strengthHow consistency compounds over time in business developmentThe power of oscillating between thinking and doingWhy there is no single “best practice” for building a book of businessHow steady, stubborn consistency outlasts quick winsBusiness development tips from this episode: Discipline beats flash: Long-term growth comes from consistent effort, not one viral momentThinking alone isn’t enough: Someone still has to do the doingSmall daily actions compound: Business development is built little by littleConsistency builds credibility: Especially when no one is watchingThere is no one-size-fits-all formula: The best approach is the one you’ll actually sustainIf you’re navigating BigLaw pressure, struggling with business development or marketing decisions and want a confidential thinking partner, connect with us here. Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyEmail stage at info@stage.guideLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

**Note: Before you listen**This episode contains discussions of disturbing events that have taken place in Minnesota. Please take care while listening.“Shouldn't we as a society really be taking a step back and dissecting this hate, and realize that it is shameful and embarrassing?...Right now, you guys might be interviewing me about what's happening in Minneapolis. I hope nobody is ever interviewing you about what is happening in your neighborhoods.” - Cari BrunkowWhat happens when the national headlines are in your neighborhood?In this powerful and deeply human conversation, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Cari Brunkow, founder and counsel of Lotus Legal, a Minneapolis-based criminal defense and civil rights attorney who is living, and lawyering, in the middle of escalating ICE activity and community unrest.Cari shares what it feels like to launch a human-centered law practice, and watch violence unfold in her own city just days later. She speaks candidly about fear, grief, anger, and hope, and about what it means to show up as a lawyer, a mother, and a community member when the fight feels personal.This is not a neat conversation. There are no easy answers. But there is honesty, proximity, and a reminder that we are not alone and we can all do something.You’ll hear about:Why Cari named her firm Lotus Legal, and what the lotus symbolizes in criminal defense and civil rights workWhat she’s seeing firsthand in Minneapolis, and how it differs from national narrativesThe emotional toll of witnessing violence in your own communityWhat it means to “get proximate” even if you don’t live in MinnesotaPractical ways to support affected communitiesWhy speaking up makes all of us saferAbout Cari Brunkow:Cari Brunkow is the founder and counsel of Lotus Legal, a Minneapolis-based criminal defense and civil rights firm. With more than a decade of experience representing individuals in law enforcement brutality cases and protecting constitutional rights, Cari launched her solo practice in 2025 to align her legal work fully with her values. She is a mother, a community advocate, and a fierce believer in proximity, truth, and collective courage.Ways You Can Get Involved:Support local journalism (e.g., Minnesota Public Radio)Buy gift cards or directly support small businesses in affected communities - Learn more about Mercado CentralCall your congressional representatives regarding ICE and DHS fundingCheck out the National Lawyers GuildCheck out the National Immigration Law CenterStay Connected:Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyEmail stage at info@stage.guide

Even when a risk feels calculated, it’s still a risk. In this mini episode, Megan Senese shares a memorable story about skydiving on her 18th birthday, and how it became a lasting lesson about control, fear, and the moments in life when all you can do is jump.Who this episode is for:Anyone standing on the edge of a big decisionPeople trying to calculate every outcome before moving forwardLawyers, professionals, and creatives facing uncertaintyAnyone who needs permission to act without guaranteesEpisode takeaways:Why even “well-planned” risks can spiral out of controlHow trying to manage every variable can give a false sense of safetyWhat happens when circumstances force you to move forward anywayWhy action, not certainty, is often the turning pointA reminder that courage doesn’t always mean feeling calmA different way to think about taking risks:You can set all the criteria, and still lose controlRisk doesn’t disappear just because you planned for itFear doesn’t mean you’re doing the wrong thingSometimes there is no perfect moment or exit strategyStay Connected:If you want a partner to share ideas with or to walk you through a big decision, we’re always here for you. Connect with us here. Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

“I realized the reason I was so passionate about authenticity was because I hadn't had the opportunity to be that way myself in these corporate roles.” - Sarah EnnorWhat does it take to be a different kind of leader in legal?Sarah Ennor, Founder of Growth Counsel, is a former firm lawyer, and in-house counsel and compliance for big-bank asset managers, she felt the pressure to “fit in.” After receiving an ADHD diagnosis as an adult, she is on a mission to bring simple inclusion strategies to life through relatable stories. Culture, morale, and financial results improve when we marry revenue to respect, coach with curiosity, and begin to banish bias. Sarah joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to talk about what happens when you stop chasing credibility through control, and start building it through presence, curiosity, and trust.You’ll hear about:What Sarah wishes more legal leaders understood about team dynamicsThe invisible weight of credibility, and how she learned to set it downWhy coaching helped her rewire how she showed up in the roomHer take on legal ops, burnout, and building trust in high-pressure rolesWhat makes a workplace feel safe (hint: it’s not perfection)About Sarah Ennor:Sarah Ennor is on a mission to make ADHD human. She works with law firms and organizations to make ADHD human and profitable through workshops and presentations to support their talent.Learn More:Explore Sarah’s work at Growth CounselThis episode #32 of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People is accredited for 35 minutes of EDI Professionalism hours for lawyers in Ontario!Stay Connected:Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyEmail stage at info@stage.guide

When the news is overwhelming, and the world feels like it’s on fire, it’s easy to feel powerless. In this mini episode, Megan Senese shares a deeply human check-in about why relationships matter, how small actions can help us regain a sense of agency, and why resilience, not “self-care”, is what we need most right now.Who this episode is for:Anyone feeling overwhelmed Lawyers and professionals struggling to show up “as usual” when things aren’t normalPeople craving connection, grounding, and reassurance that they’re not aloneEpisode takeawaysHow stage defines relationships as people, not transactions, optics, or metricsHow talking it out with someone you trust can shift how you show up at work and in lifeWhy one small action can interrupt feelings of helplessnessHow resilience looks different for everyone, and doesn’t require perfectionA reminder that you don’t have to measure your response against anyone else’sWhat you can do right now:Start with one small action: Movement helps break the feeling of being stuckPractice resilience, not perfection: Rest, pause, and refill your cup when neededProtect your nervous system: Set boundaries around news, screens, and noiseLean into community: Connection is a form of care and resistanceEngage in ways that feel aligned: Donating, volunteering, pro bono work, or reaching outLearn More:Donate if you are able: Support MinnesotaEmail Your RepresentativesCall Your RepresentativesVolunteer, do pro bono work:ABA Pro Bono OpportunitiesNY State Bar Pro Bono OpportunitiesCalifornia State Bar Pro Bono OpportunitiesStay Connected:If you’re feeling overwhelmed, know this: you’re not alone.If you need an ear, a place to land, or someone to remind you that small things matter, we’re here. Always.Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

You made law firm partner, congratulations! But once the title settles in, many new partners ask the same question: now what? In this mini episode, Megan Senese walks through practical, people-first steps to help new law firm partners transition from employee to owner and start building real autonomy inside their firm.Who this episode is for:Newly promoted law firm partnersSenior associates preparing for partnershipLawyers navigating the shift from biller to business builderEpisode takeaways:Why becoming a partner doesn’t magically change your day-to-day, and what shouldHow gratitude and relationship-building set the tone for your first yearThe right way to tell people you’ve made partnerWhy understanding how you get paid matters more than you thinkHow to start building a portable book of business earlyWhat to do after you’ve made partner:Pause and acknowledge the milestone: Take a moment to recognize the work it took to get here.Thank the people who helped you: Mentors, colleagues, and clients who supported your path.Let people know about it - intentionally! Share the news by asking how you can support them.Understand how your compensation works: Know where your income will come from and how origination is measured.Start building your own book of business: Focus on long-term autonomy, flexibility, and ownership.Learn More:What Should You Do as a New Law Firm Partner? 5 Tips for Your First 90 DaysStay Connected:Have questions about navigating your first year as a partner? We’re always happy to talk through strategy, structure, and next steps.Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyEmail stage at info@stage.guideLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

“If you're going to say lawyers can’t enter a courtroom because they’ve represented people in unpopular causes, then the rule of law falls apart.” - Neel ChatterjeeWhat happens when lawyers speak up, not just in court, but in defense of the rule of law itself?In this powerful conversation, Neel Chatterjee joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to share the story behind Law Firm Partners United (LFPU): a grassroots movement that began with a single LinkedIn post and grew into a coalition of over 800 Big Law partners. Formed in response to executive overreach threatening the right to counsel, LFPU became a rare and urgent example of professional solidarity in action.Neel opens up about the risks, the unexpected momentum, and why being a lawyer has never felt more meaningful. From his Attorney of the Year speech to organizing public amicus briefs, this is a conversation about courage, citizenship, and how even the most traditional institutions can change when people choose to act.You’ll hear about:Why Neel started LFPU, and how it grew almost overnightThe real risks Big Law partners faced when speaking outThe constitutional stakes of recent executive ordersHow amicus briefs and town halls turned into tools of changeWhat gives Neel hope about the future of the legal professionAbout Neel Chatterjee:Neel Chatterjee is a partner at King & Spalding and a nationally recognized technology litigator. He’s the founder of Law Firm Partners United, a coalition of 800+ Big Law partners defending the rule of law in response to executive overreach. His leadership earned him The American Lawyer’s 2025 Attorney of the Year award and national recognition for legal activism.Learn More:Join Law Firm Partners UnitedWatch Neel’s acceptance speechThis episode is brought to you by: ICVM HawkICVM Hawk is a digital marketing and AI solutions consultancy that helps law firms build stronger brands and future-ready marketing systems.They specialize in data-backed brand strategy, web design and development, SEO and AI-optimized content, and an AI-enabled marketing system designed to improve visibility, credibility, and long-term growth. ICVM Hawk's solutions help law firms and legal marketing teams scale without losing the trust that matters most. Visit icvmhawk.com to learn how your firm can benefit. Stay Connected:Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyEmail stage at info@stage.guide

For the holidays, we're sharing a couple of our favorite episodes from the year. Enjoy this encore conversation with Stephanie Harrison!Stephanie Harrison is a bestselling author, podcast host, and founder of The New Happy, a movement grounded in the art and science of well-being. Stephanie holds a master’s in positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, formerly led learning at Thrive Global, and her work now reaches millions through her podcast, newsletter, and widely shared visual art.Stephanie shares her journey from burnout to breakthrough, and why everything changed when she stopped chasing external validation and started redefining happiness on her own terms. She unpacks the difference between “Old Happy” and "New Happy".Stay tuned until the end for a special treat from Stephanie.Learn more about our guest:Connect with Stephanie HarrisonCheck out New HappyLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan SeneseConnect with Jennifer RamseyMusic Credits:Track: Follow Your HeartArtist: Neil CrossLicense type: Music StandardSource: Envato MarketLicense Info: https://audiojungle.net/item/follow-your-heart/7195577

For the holidays, we're sharing a couple of our favorite episodes from the year. Enjoy this encore conversation with Bob Burg!Bob Burg is the storyteller, with co-author John David Mann, behind The Go-Giver, a Wall Street Journal, and BusinessWeek bestseller that has sold over a million copies. Bob is a former TV personality and top-producing salesperson. He speaks with corporations, organizations, and at sales and leadership conferences worldwide on topics central to The Go-Giver. And if you weren’t aware, there is an entire Go-Giver series that includes Go-Givers Sell More, The Go-Giver Leader and The Go-Giver Influencer. He is also author of Adversaries into Allies and Endless Referrals. In his personal time, Bob is an unapologetic animal lover and serves as part of a South Florida rescue, foster, and adoption organization.Learn more about our guest:Connect with BobBuy The Go GiverLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan SeneseConnect with Jennifer Ramsey

What do you do when the traditional legal world no longer fits, but you still love practicing law?For Brian Scherer, the answer was to build something new: HeyCounsel, a legal tech platform turned thriving community for solo and small-firm lawyers. In this thoughtful and often funny conversation, Brian joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to talk about reinventing legal practice, one relationship at a time.What started as a no-code marketplace turned into a vibrant, supportive community for solo and small-firm lawyers. Brian gets candid about what didn’t work, what surprised him most, and why relationships, NOT billable hours, are still the heartbeat of great legal work.Learn more about our guest: Connect with BrianLearn more about HeyCounselLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyEmail stage at info@stage.guide

December is often marketed as the most wonderful time of the year, but for many, it’s the hardest. In this short episode, Megan Senese reflects on the complicated emotions that the holiday season can bring, especially for those navigating grief, anniversaries of loss, or simply a heaviness they can’t quite name.This episode is a reminder that if December is difficult for you, you are not alone. And if it happens to be a good year for you? That’s okay too. The throughline is this: none of us know what others are carrying, and offering more grace, patience, and humanity, at work and at home, can be the difference we all need.Remember, You’re not alone.You don’t have to do this season alone.You matter.You are loved.And you are important.

**Note: Before you listen**This episode contains discussions of domestic violence, childhood abuse, homelessness, and related trauma. Please take care while listening. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 or text BEGIN to 88788.--In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Diana Lauritson, legal marketing leader, LMA board member, and a survivor with one hell of a story.With raw honesty and unwavering courage, Diana opens up about her journey from a turbulent childhood and teenage homelessness to law school, leadership, and building a career in Big Law. She shares why she’s choosing to tell her story now, what it’s been like to post openly about trauma and healing on LinkedIn, and how she’s defining her brand on her own terms.This episode is a powerful reminder that everyone brings a story to the table. Diana’s vulnerability is a gift, and her voice will stick with you long after the episode ends.Learn more about our guest: Connect with DianaLearn more about Boys TownLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. If you’re navigating BigLaw pressure, struggling with business development or marketing decisions and want a confidential thinking partner, connect with us here. Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Aneka Jiwaji, commercial litigator, mental health advocate, unapologetic voice on LinkedIn, and co-founder of a custom fine jewelry business. Aneka brings her full self to the conversation and reminds us why that’s exactly the point.With warmth, humor, and candor, Aneka shares what it means to succeed in legal on her terms, as a racialized lawyer, a mom, and a multidimensional human being. She opens up about finding her voice, navigating a “let them” era of life, and how she’s rewriting outdated definitions of what it means to be a “serious lawyer.”Learn more about our guest: Connect with AnekaListen to her interview with The RKHCheck out Aneka’s jewelry @houseofjaia on InstagramCheck out Aneka’s songsLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. If you’re navigating BigLaw pressure, struggling with business development or marketing decisions and want a confidential thinking partner, connect with us here. Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

This episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey share an honest look at what business development really means and why it should start with people, not pressure.Together, they unpack the realities of growing a book of business, navigating networking as introverts and extroverts, and rethinking the idea that there’s only one way to build relationships that lead to work. From big-law lessons to independent coaching insights, they share the approaches that actually work, and why “business development” is really just relationship development.In this conversation, they cover:Why the most successful business development starts with relationships, not revenueHow to build a strategy that feels authentic to youWhy “small talk” might just be curiosity in disguiseHow to find motivation, spot your strengths, and do BD your own wayReady to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Emily Logan Stedman, litigation partner at Husch Blackwell, mental health advocate, and host of The Grace Period podcast. Emily opens up about her path through big law, her personal mental health journey, and what it means to practice law without losing your sense of self.Through honest reflection and hard-fought wisdom, Emily shares how she went from quietly burning out as a mid-level associate to finding purpose in well-being, mentorship, and authenticity. They discuss how high-achievers often struggle in silence, how our identities get tangled up in titles, and what it looks like to pursue success on your own terms, not the ones handed to you.Learn more about our guest: Connect with EmilyListen to her podcast, The Grace PeriodCheck out her LinkedIn postLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Elaine Lin Hering, facilitator, speaker, former Harvard Law professor, and author of the best-selling book, Unlearning Silence: How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully. Through her global work on negotiation, leadership, and communication, Elaine has helped thousands of people speak up, find their voice, and challenge the systems that silence them.Elaine shares the personal and professional experiences that led her to write Unlearning Silence, including why the question isn’t always how to speak up, but why we’ve stayed silent in the first place. Together, they explore how cultural conditioning, workplace dynamics, and fear of judgment shape our ability to use our voice, and how we can unlearn what no longer serves us.Learn more about our guest:Connect with Elaine Lin HeringCheck out more from Elaine hereCheck out Elaine’s book, Unlearning SilenceLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan SeneseConnect with Jennifer Ramsey

In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Ian Carleton Schaefer, Partner at Sheppard Mullin, legal advisor to Fortune 100 companies and global institutions, and conductor of the Second Ending Ensemble. Ian’s story is anything but linear, and that’s exactly what makes it inspiring.Ian shares the powerful story behind his “second ending,” a musical term turned life philosophy that helped him reconnect with a lifelong passion for music while navigating a high-powered legal career. He talks about studying conducting at Juilliard during the pandemic, how music and law are related to each other, and why every professional deserves permission to pursue the thing that lights them up.This episode closes with a special performance excerpt from A Solar Symphony, a commissioned piece by Welsh composer Katie Jenkins, played by Ian’s Second Ending Ensemble at Jazz at Lincoln Center.Learn more about our guest:Connect with Ian Carleton SchaeferWatch Ian’s workLearn more about Second Ending Ensemble>> Join us for CMO Rising <<Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!Learn more about stageConnect with Megan SeneseConnect with Jennifer Ramsey

In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with William Washington III, Global CFO of Baker McKenzie, who oversees more than $3 billion in revenue across 75+ offices worldwide. William’s path to the C-suite was anything but traditional. He shares his story and the twists and turns that led him to ultimately overseeing thousands of professionals at one of the world’s largest law firms.William shares how resilience, setting boundaries, and staying authentic shaped his leadership. He explains why wellbeing practices like walking meetings, fitness, and meditation are game changers, and why focusing on people (not just the work) transformed his career. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone curious about leadership, career growth, and what it really takes to become a law firm CFO.Learn more about our guest: Connect with WilliamLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. If you’re navigating BigLaw pressure, struggling with business development or marketing decisions and want a confidential thinking partner, connect with us here. Learn more about stageConnect with Megan SeneseConnect with Jennifer Ramsey