The Tarot Podcast with T. Susan Chang

“Oh no!  Some of my cards ended up upside down! What does that mean?!” In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, we’re having a look at one of the most common matters of debate among tarot readers: how to interpret reversed cards. There are many schools of thought on how to handle reversals, so I’ve put together a brief guide so you can choose what makes sense to you. If you’ve enjoyed this summary and would love more answers to all your tarot “starter questions,” check out my book, The Living Tarot, available wherever books are sold.  Or, consider The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book – just email me.) And if you already use reversals, I’d love to hear your take on how you interpret them! Write to me on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Interpreting dreams and interpreting tarot have a lot in common, so in this episode the hosts of This Jungian Life and I join forces to interpret a dream—one that contains actual tarot imagery!  The dream took place in 2020, but it’s not a pandemic dream. It’s personal dream, but also timeless and universal, and a great example of how tarot and dream symbol systems can interact with one another. If you’d like to learn some practical ways of using tarot in dreamwork, be sure to check out our Patreon bonus content this week, where I talk about how you can bring your cards into the dream world and vice versa. Deborah Stewart is a Jungian analyst, Gestalt therapist, and Licensed Clinical Social Worker who migrates between Cape Cod and Sarasota, Florida. She is a member of the Philadelphia Association of Jungian Analysts and the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts. She also is a graduate of the Westchester Institute for Training in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis. She is a member of the podcast This Jungian Life, co-author of Dream Wise, and co-creator of Dream School, a self-paced online course in dream interpretation. Joseph R. Lee is a Jungian Analyst who co-hosts This Jungian Life and co-created Dream School. He lectures widely on the Western Mystery Tradition and Hermetic Qabalah. His teaching and clinical work are informed by almost five decades of research and practice with Tarot and other symbolic systems. This Jungian Life [podcast]: Three Jungian analysts discuss myth, mental health and life Dream School: An online self-paced course in dream interpretation Dream Wise: Unlocking the Meaning of Your Dreams [book] Dreaming the Decans: TSC’s compendium of dream images and decan spells (paper/hardback) _____________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

There is no shortage of spooky, surreal, spine-tingly decks on the shelves of the world’s metaphysical shops: the joyous Santa Muerte Tarot, the Zombie Tarot, the Welcome to Night Vale Tarot and countless others. But in this week’s 5 Questions episode, we spend some time with what is in my opinion one of the great “stick season” decks of all time: the Deviant Moon Tarot. The look of the deck is singular, springing from creator Patrick Valenza’s lifelong relationship with tarot. Deviant Moon marries the grotesque with the sumptuous, the steampunk with the byzantine—you can almost hear a Danny Elfman soundtrack playing in the background when you shuffle the cards. The Deviant Moon’s citizen spirits captured my imagination the first time I saw them, and I bet you’ll feel the same. Patrick Valenza is an American artist and publisher best known for The Deviant Moon Tarot, published by U. S. Games Systems Inc. Through his studio, Deviant Moon Inc., he creates original tarot and oracle decks recognized for their surreal imagery and handcrafted detail. His work blends folklore, symbolism, and dreamlike narratives, earning him a devoted international audience in the world of contemporary tarot art. Pick up a copy of the Deviant Moon deck: Check out the Deviant Moon companion book: Deviant Moon on Instagram Patrick’s Facebook fan page:  ________________________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 5 of Wands shows up in the lives of ordinary humans like you and me. As we progress through the suit of wands, the 5 of Wands heats things up with a restless, roiling, fractious energy that just gets under your skin. When you draw it, look out for the following themes: Emotional strife Striving and challenges Sports/playing around Debates or differences of opinion Counting to 5 Literal and visual equivalents Heat (hot weather and cooking!) To learn a 5 of Wands magic spell you can do at home -  and share your stories about the 6 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment - please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! https://patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast merch & cool stuff made by your host! https://etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! https://thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot: https://www.amazon.com/36-Secrets-Decanic-Journey-through/dp/1716325099 Learn your correspondences with Tarot Correspondences! https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Correspondences-Ancient-Secrets-Everyday/dp/0738755125 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In today’s “Ask an Expert” episode, we bring back the legendary (and hilarious!) Lon Milo DuQuette to explore the Thoth deck—probably the second most influential tarot deck in the English-speaking world. This rather dark, very beautiful deck created by Aleister Crowley and Lady Frieda Harris has had a lasting global influence - especially for those who are magically inclined. While the Thoth deck’s influence on modern tarot iconography may not be as pronounced as the Rider Waite Smith’s, you can absolutely find decks that are based explicitly and exclusively on Thoth. If you’d like to see some examples, you can check out this week’s bonus content on Patreon by becoming a supporting member of the Tarot Podcast community. Author of 20 critically acclaimed books (translated in twelve languages) on Magick and the occult, Lon Milo DuQuette is one of the most respected and entertaining writers and lecturers in the field of the Western Mystery Traditions. He is also gifted singer songwriter and former Epic Records recording artist whose music continues to inspire and provoke. Since 1975 he has served as a national and international governing officer of Ordo Templi Orientis, one of the most influential magical societies of the 20th and 21st centuries. DuQuette hosts a daily show on his Facebook and YouTube channels, and occasionally appears on television, radio, and internet programs as a guest expert on subjects involving the occult. He lives in Sacramento, California with Constance, his high-school sweet-heart and wife of fifty-seven years.   Lon’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/lon.duquette Lon’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@lonmilo Understanding Aleister Crowley’s Thoth Tarot: https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Aleister-Crowleys-Thoth-Tarot/dp/1578632765 The definitive guide to the Thoth Tarot! _________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! https://patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! https://etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! https://thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot, my book on the 36 decans and the minor cards. https://www.amazon.com/36-Secrets-Decanic-Journey-through/dp/1716325099 Check out Fortune’s Wheelhouse: My previous tarot podcast, co-hosted with Mel Meleen, comparing esoteric symbolism in the Rider Waite Smith and Thoth decks. https://fortuneswheelhouse.podbean.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In today’s “Ask an Expert” episode, we bring back the one and only Mary K. Greer to answer a very important question for all of us who love the cards, and that is: What is the Rider Waite Smith Tarot? Even if you don’t own a Rider Waite Smith deck, you’ve almost certainly seen one. When you Google any tarot card, it’s likely the first image that will come up in your search is going to be the Rider Waite Smith image. How did the RWS come to dominate the world of tarot? Mary Greer, as always, has the answers. Mary K. Greer is an independent tarot scholar, author and teacher who is known worldwide for her innovative teaching techniques.  She lives in northern California, but you can find her at https://marykgreer.com and on Facebook. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, we are diving straight to the heart of the most personal subject tarot cards and tarot readers ever see:  relationships.  We’ll explore what we can and can’t find out, what’s a healthy way to go about asking about that crush, and what you can do once you find out. I don’t need cards to tell me that you’re going to be trying the Relationship Spread really soon.  When you do, let me know how it goes! You can write to me on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with exercises like the ones in this episode! with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) Learn your correspondences with Tarot Correspondences! 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

There are countless points of intersection between the art of tarot and the practice of Jungian psychology. In this week’s show we welcome two of the hosts of the podcast This Jungian Life, which is essential listening for anyone who is interested in the psychological dimension of dreams, myths and archetypes, and how they play out in our ordinary lives. Deborah Stewart is a Jungian analyst and Gestalt therapist based in Cape Cod and Sarasota, Florida. Joseph Lee is a Jungian analyst based in Virginia, and he also lectures widely on the Western mystery tradition. Along with their colleague Lisa Marchiano, they’ve been co-hosting This Jungian Life since 2018. Deb and Joseph joined host T. Susan recently to explore several topics where tarot and Jungian psychology meet. In the first of our conversations, we talk about Jung’s concept of synchronicity, and how a tarot reading may—or may not!—be a synchronistic phenomenon.   Deborah Stewart is a Jungian analyst, Gestalt therapist, and Licensed Clinical Social Worker who migrates between Cape Cod and Sarasota, Florida. She is a member of the Philadelphia Association of Jungian Analysts and the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts. She also is a graduate of the Westchester Institute for Training in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis. She is a member of the popular podcast, This Jungian Life, co-author of Dream Wise: Unlocking the Meaning of Your Dreams, and co-creator of Dream School, a self-paced online course in dream interpretation.   Joseph R. Lee is a Jungian Analyst who co-hosts the podcast This Jungian Life and co-created Dream School, an online program that teaches dream interpretation. He lectures widely on the Western Mystery Tradition and Hermetic Qabalah. His teaching and clinical work are informed by almost five decades of research and practice with Tarot and other symbolic systems. This Jungian Life [podcast]: Three Jungian analysts discuss myth, mental health and life Dream School: An online self-paced course in dream interpretation Dream Wise: Unlocking the Meaning of Your Dreams [book] ________________________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

n this week’s 5 Questions episode, we’re speaking with the inimitable Benebell Wen about her Spirit Keeper’s Tarot, which came out in three different editions (the First edition, the Vitruvian edition, and the Revelation editions) between 2018 and 2021. The “SKT” has become an integral part of many readers’ practices, and I thought it would be fascinating to get a closer look at the inner workings of this rich and complex deck and its creator. Although the Spirit Keepers Tarot is currently out of print, it is an open edition, so we can look forward to another printing at some p oint in the future. In the meantime, if you just can’t wait and are up for investing in a durable non-card version, the excellent tarot artist Jamie Sawyer has tarot tiles of the SKT, which she produces as a collaboration with Benebell, In addition to the Spirit Keeper's Tarot, Benebell is the author of three books: Holistic Tarot (2015), The Tao of Craft (2016), and I Ching, The Oracle (2023). She is currently at work on the Grand Etteilla Tarot of Thoth-Hermes.                      benebellwen.com youtube.com/BenebellWen instagram.com/bellwen   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 4 of Wands shows up in the lives of ordinary humans like you and me. The 4 of Wands often gladdens the hearts of those who encounter it, even though its gifts can be fleeting. When you draw it, look out for the following themes: Couples & weddings Birthdays, parties, festivals Temporary structures, safe spaces, refuges Respite and recovery Counting to 4 Venusian things! To share your stories about the 5 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment, please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for astrological perfumes, Tarot Podcast merch & other cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot. 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In our episode on“Will I Ever...?” we confronted the human longing for prediction.  In this companion episode, “Should I...?”, we confront the human longing for advice. Our guest is once again Theresa Reed, aka “The Tarot Lady,” dispenser of advice to countless seekers—and the Old Farmer’s Almanac! Should you ask your cards whether you should do something?  We’ll find out together! Theresa Reed, aka “The Tarot Lady”) has been a Tarot card reader and astrologer for 40 years. She’s the author of multiple best-selling and award-winning books, including The Tarot Coloring Book, Astrology For Real Life, and The Cards You’re Dealt. She’s a featured writer for The Old Farmer’s Almanac, where she writes about moon phases, zodiac elements, astrocartography, and more. You can find her at thetarotlady.com and on Instagram as @thetarotlady. https://thetarotlady.com IG: @thetarotlady Re-listen to Episode 11: “Will I Ever...?” Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, we explore a life-changing approach to learning the cards: TAROT BACKWARDS. Memorizing meanings won’t make you a tarot reader.  Instead, learn how to see tarot in the world around you so that you come to know the cards by heart. Let me know what amazing connections you make in your own Tarot Backwards practice! — on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with exercises like the ones in this episode! with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) Learn your correspondences with Tarot Correspondences! 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s 5 Questions episode, we’re speaking with Lettie Jane Rennekamp, the creator of the Many Queens Tarot, a stunning, proudly queer, black-and-white deck. It was originally a Kickstarter deck; the mass market version was published by Andrews McMeel at the end of 2024. Lettie Jane is an illustrator and artist based in Portland, Oregon by way of Kentucky. Her illustrations are bold and tender at the same time, depicting motherhood, varying versions of gender expression, community, and nature all together. She has worked in both commercial and gallery spaces, creating everything from murals to wine labels, large cut-out paintings and small watercolors. Website: www.lettiejane.com Instagram: @lettiejanemakes   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 3 of Wands shows up in the lives of actual living, breathing human beings like you and me! The 3 of Wands is a quieter, more cryptic card than its predecessors in the suit. Join me to learn how to unpack its gifts and master its lessons. When you draw it, look for synchronicities in the following sectors: Leadership and efforts to excel Altruism and good intentions Waiting and watching Sense of awe and natural beauty Counting to 3 To share your stories about the 4 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment, please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot. 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Hang on to your hats, folks! In this episode we begin to approach the core paradox that haunts all of us who concern ourselves with divination: Fate vs. Free Will. My guest is Theresa Reed, aka “The Tarot Lady”.  One of her favorite catchphrases is “The cards tell a story, but you write the ending.” - which makes her the perfect expert to talk about the question that begins ”Will I ever...?” We’ve all asked this question, because we all want to know what our “fate” is.  Willl I ever...find the job of my dreams? Will I ever...find the one? Will I ever...be famous?  Surely our fate is written in the stars or shown in the cards.  But is it really? Tune in to find out. Theresa Reed, aka “The Tarot Lady”) has been a Tarot card reader and astrologer for 40 years. She’s the author of multiple best-selling and award-winning books, including The Tarot Coloring Book, Astrology For Real Life, and The Cards You’re Dealt. She’s a featured writer for The Old Farmer’s Almanac, where she writes about moon phases, zodiac elements, astrocartography, and more. You can find her at thetarotlady.com and on Instagram as @thetarotlady. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In today’s “Ask an Expert” episode with tarot legend Mary K. Greer, we ask: Do the compelling human stories revealed in tarot have the same power, when the storyteller is an artificial intelligence? Can the brilliant mimicry of AI evoke real emotions and maybe even real healing in us? Is there truth to be found when we look at the diviner’s dance of chaos and meaning in the mirror of AI? In short, can AI read tarot???  Stay tuned, because two ordinary human, unartificially-enhanced beings are about to do their best to find out. Have you used AI to read tarot?  What did you think?  How did it compare to readings from a human? Tell me! on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Mary K. Greer is an independent tarot scholar, author and teacher who is known worldwide for her innovative teaching techniques.  She lives in northern California, but you can find her at https://marykgreer.com and on Facebook. [Please note: This conversation was recorded on May 18, 2025. The AI landscape changes rapidly, so some aspects of what we spoke about may have already evolved beyond what we were discussing at the time.] Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, we look at a two-card spread that will 100% change your life: The World’s Simplest Problem-Solution Spread. If you’re ready to start tackling your bugbears, remedying your missteps, and generally mitigating your angst, LOOK NO FURTHER.    Once you’ve solved your first problem, let me know how it went!  Share your results on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com.   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s Ask an Expert episode, I speak with veteran tarot teachers Wald and Ruth Ann Amberstone, co-founders of the Tarot School in New York City. The Amberstonesteach, write, speak and publish about tarot on all levels from divination to psychology to esotericism and magical practice. They are perpetual pioneers of new tarot techniques and remain lifelong tarot students. In this conversation, we explore one of the Amberstones’ core techniques: using the inner eye to enter the world of tarot. They walk us through a guided visualization, and share how all of us can find these seemingly imagined worlds in ourselves. You’ll also hear about Ruth Ann’s mini tarot movies of the court cards, which you can view on Patreon if you’re a patron. (To enjoy this and other weekly extras, sign up at patreon.com/thetarotpodcast.) Facebook.com/TarotSchool X.com/TheTarotSchool Pinterest.com/tarotschool Instagram.com/thetarotschool thetarotschool.bsky.social linkedin.com/in/ruthannamberstone TarotSchool.com tarot@tarotschool.com 800-804-2184 Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s 5 Questions episode, we’re speaking with Joanna Powell Colbert about her ground-breaking nature-based deck, the Gaian Tarot, which first came out in 2009 and has just been re-released by Red Feather/Schiffer. Joanna writes and teaches about tarot, earth-centered spirituality, seasonal and lunar lore, and creativity as a spiritual practice. She lives on the edge of woods and lake in Washington State, and it’s her intimate relationship with her magical environs that gives the Gaian Tarot its sense of power and place. You can find her at joannapowellcolbert.com, as well as on Substack, Instagram and Bluesky. joannapowellcolbert.com gaiantarot.com joannapowellcolbert.substack.com @joannapcolbert (instagram, bluesky) __________________________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 2 of Wands shows up in the lives of actual living, breathing human beings like you and me! The 2 of Wands is the first of the “decanic cards” in modern tarot—the 2 through 10 number cards in each of the 4 suits. Because the astrology of the decans informs the way people experience decanic cards, this episode includes a very brief intro to decans and how they correspond to tarot cards.  To learn more about decans in the tarot, check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot. When you draw the 2 of Wands, look for synchronicities in the following sectors: New beginnings and calendar matters Planning and executive decisions Two Trees Counting to 2 To share your stories about the 3 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment, please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊