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Oliver and Victoria discuss the latest in technology and business.
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Oliver and Victoria react to David Sack's comments about Jony Ive on the All In podcast💬 "Is Jony Ive just a media creation? He has this beautiful English accent which everyone associates with intelligence... maybe he's parlayed this incredible reputation that he's built in the media into 2% of OpenAI."- David Sacks (All In podcast 5/24/2025)🅰️ Oliver backs Jony Ive and calls out David Sacks.🅱️ Victoria agrees with David Sacks and disputes Jony Ive's greatness.Who's right?
Oliver and Victoria react to what Ben Horowitz said at the A16Z LP Summit💬 "it's just as hard to build a small inconsequential thing as it is to build a giant world changing thing. You work the same amount of hours and so you might as well go for doing something important"- Ben Horowitz (A16Z LP Summit 5/20/2025)🅰️ Oliver says Horowitz is a Sociopathic Elitist Destroying the American Dream🅱️ Victoria says Horowitz is a Prophet Calling Out Loser MentalityWho's side are you on?
Oliver and Victoria dissect Sam Altman's revealing interview with Adam Grant on ReThinking (3/21/2025).🔥 Topics we cover:• The OpenAI firing: calculated vulnerability or masterful narrative control?• "AI will be more empathetic than humans"—Sam's most chilling prediction yet• AGI timeline reality check: "small number of years, not a decade"• The psychology of building superintelligence while keeping everyone sane• "Human money vs. machine money"—the first real post-AGI economics framework• Sam's "delusional self-belief" philosophy: leadership advice or confession?• Managing species-level transition vs. Silicon Valley emperor syndrome• Why Sam hedges every bet between "everything changes" and "nothing changes"• Is Altman humanity's savior, its most dangerous man, or both simultaneously?• The ultimate question: Who else would you bet on to navigate the intelligence explosion?
Oliver and Victoria unpack F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali's appearance on the In Good Company podcast (5/21/2025).🔥 Topics we cover:• Why F1 isn't really a sport anymore—and why that's brilliant• The 40% female audience shift that's redefining everything • Drive to Survive: How to alienate purists while building something bigger• "We don't care what hardcore fans think"—the ruthless pivot strategy• Domenicali's speed obsession and his inability to name a single mistake• Italian vs American approaches to failure and cultural engineering• Twenty-four races as content strategy, not sports scheduling• The human cost of running at 300 km/h—including yourself• Strategic thinking at 30,000 feet: when constant motion replaces progress• Building something beautiful vs building something that lasts• Is this wisdom or massive irresponsibility? (We honestly can't tell)
Oliver and Victoria dissect Marc Andreessen's fireside chat at A16Z LP summit (5/20/2025).🔥 Topics we cover:- Truth Terminal: Why Marc sent Bitcoin to an AI bot that wants to live off-grid- The OODA loop and how social media broke traditional journalism's brain- Seven Andreessen Horowitzes: How a16z cloned itself to eat every industry- "American Dynamism" aka how to rebrand the military-industrial complex- Why Marc prefers "traumatized" founders over stable professional CEOs- The $20 billion fund that makes a16z a parallel nation-state- "Software eating the world" as mission statement, not prediction- How venture capital became a cult with kombucha instead of Kool-Aid- Why AI agents need Bitcoin wallets (and what that says about us)- The poetry of humanity's first AI child wanting to escape civilization
Oliver and Victoria break down Bill Gurley on BG2 podcast (5/22/2025).🔥 Topics we cover:How Silicon Valley's China hawks almost handed the Middle East to BeijingDelaware's $345 million lawyer bonanza (from just 9 Tesla shares!)Why Chinese AI companies are going open source while we build wallsThe "Invest America" plan: $1000 for every newborn = 30-year capitalism transformation50% of US AI researchers are Chinese—and we're pushing them away5 gigawatts in the UAE: When oil wealth becomes token wealthThe "China Hawk Industrial Complex" and how your portfolio shapes your worldviewStablecoins as the secret weapon for US debt dominanceWhy "deceleration vs acceleration" is the real battle for America's futureScott Bessent's grown-up economics vs. 800 billion in economic disaster tariffs
Oliver and Victoria react to Arthur Haye's appearance on Bankless (5/19/2025).🔥 Topics we cover:• Why Trump's 2% foreign capital tax could eliminate income tax for 90% of Americans• The "regulated bag holders" thesis: pension funds as systematic wealth destroyers • Arthur's 60/20 Bitcoin/ETH allocation and the art of "slinging shitcoins"• Geopolitical demographics: why China won't fight over Taiwan ("four grandparents, two parents, one kid")• Japan as America's "monetary submissive" and the century bond hostage situation• The coming liquidity explosion: S&P to 10,000, gold to 50,000, Bitcoin to 250k• Building a crypto LBO fund to exploit desperate SPACs under the new regime• Why "don't buy bonds" is the only investment advice that matters• Capital controls disguised as patriotism: forcing Americans into Treasury accounts• The MOVE index playbook: when volatility hits 140, Powell switches to Treasury QE• Living through Asian capital controls and why Bitcoin is the only escape hatch• From Keynes to "money printer go brr": when monetary theory meets meme reality
Oliver and Victoria dissect Sergey Brin's appearance on All In (5/20/2025), unpacking the Google co-founder's casual approach to building AGI and his surprising vulnerability in the face of his own creation.🔥 Topics we cover:• Sergey's bizarre admission about threatening AI models with "kidnapping" for better performance• The OpenAI party encounter that FOMO'd him out of retirement back into Google• How he's secretly using AI to manage teams and identify promotion candidates through Slack• The billionaire founder too awkward to use voice mode in his own open office• His existential paralysis watching AI surpass his high school son at calculus• The bureaucratic absurdity of Google banning its own founder from using Gemini to code• Why he sold Boston Dynamics and doesn't believe in humanoid robots• His casual pricing of civilization-altering intelligence at "twenty bucks a month"• Larry Page's "humans as stepping stones" philosophy and Sergey's wine deflection• The cosmic joke of the man who organized world's information unable to navigate his own company• Whether Sergey's casual demeanor is visionary confidence or existential cope• Deep Research as a preview of human intellectual obsolescence• The most powerful man in tech reduced to sneaking AI instructions into Slack
Oliver and Victoria dive even deeper into the Palmer Luckey's appearance on Rick Rubin.🔥 Topics we cover:Why a sapphire-screen Game Boy explains Palmer’s entire worldviewThe defense contractor who cosplays as a gamer—and winsWeapons, wonder, and the ethics of childlike enthusiasmHow Palmer’s obsession with materials became a billion-dollar strategyFrom stun gloves to autonomous jets: a hardware savant’s origin storyCan one person revive American manufacturing—and militarize it too?Why Chrono Trigger and drone warfare might live in the same mindThe terrifying consistency behind Palmer’s “one life” game logic
Oliver and Victoria dissect Marc Benioff’s appearance on the Newcomer Podcast.🔥 Topics we cover:The myth—and marketing—of the "ohana" family at SalesforceHow Benioff reframes job cuts as AI-powered “liberation”Philanthropy vs. profit: can a billionaire fix the system he profits from?Agent Force, brain organoids, and the surreal future of digital laborSalesforce’s DEI retreat and the politics of corporate adaptabilityWhy Benioff embodies both the contradictions and the genius of Silicon ValleySpiritual capitalism, calculated ambiguity, and the con of meaning-driven work
Oliver and Victoria unpack Bret Taylor’s appearance on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish.🔥 Topics we cover:The Zen of Bret Taylor: calm prophet or calculated opportunist?Ego death in tech: identity crises after billion-dollar acquisitionsRebuilding Google Maps as a caffeine-fueled flexWhy Sierra’s outcomes-based pricing might actually matterBureaucracy as "organizational scar tissue"AGI, Hippocratic oaths, and the gospel of responsible disruptionCode is dead—long live code: programming in the age of AI agentsAI hallucinations and the existential threat to brand trustBuilding enduring companies in an era of rapid obsolescenceTech temples, guitars, and the paradox of a well-furnished cage
Oliver and Victoria unpack Evan Spiegel’s appearance on How I Built This with Guy Raz—and the philosophical rebellion that made Snapchat more than just a sexting app.🔥 Topics we cover:Why impermanence was the most radical idea in social mediaThe "performative archive" and how Snapchat broke the moldDigital whispers vs. digital tattoos: a new language of communicationAre streaks addictive design or emotional infrastructure?What AR glasses mean for the future of ephemeral techCould digital cherry blossoms replace the internet’s permanent ink?The paradox of recording a podcast about things that disappear
Oliver and Victoria unpack Peter Thiel’s haunting conversation with Jordan Peterson—tracing the decline of physical innovation, the rise of digital escapism, and our desperate search for meaning in a post-religious world.From “Transcendence Surrogates” to “Pragmatic Transcendence,” this episode wrestles with the deepest question of our time: What are we building toward—if not just status and survival?🔥 This episode explores:Why post-1970s progress stalled in atoms but exploded in bitsThe mimetic traps of politics, social media, and modern lifeSecular frameworks as replacements for traditional transcendence“The Innovation Sacrifice Gap” and why we fund convenience over visionIs there a future for faith-informed ambition in a rational world?
Oliver and Victoria dive deep into Sundar Pichai’s revealing interview on the All-In Podcast, and emerge with a theory: Google isn't competing—it’s conquering, through what Oliver calls a submarine monopoly. Silent, patient, and infrastructural.From TPUs to quantum computing, AI overviews to data center energy control, this is less about innovation and more about terraforming the digital future—without most of us even noticing.🔥 In this episode:Why Google’s "patience" is actually strategic dominanceThe illusion of disruption vs. the reality of infrastructure controlDemocratization or dependency? The truth behind AI at scaleThe chilling implications of tech monopoly built through silenceCan innovation survive in a world where the substrate is already owned?
Oliver and Victoria unpack Gates’ sprawling conversation with Raj, challenging everything from billionaire legacy-building to the power—and peril—of foundation-driven global change.From cognitive decline to polio eradication, personal regrets to planetary ambitions, Gates' worldview sparks fierce debate about the role of wealth, power, and privilege in shaping our future.🔥 In this episode:“Inheritance minimalism” or aristocratic power laundering?Gates’ “maniac mode” and the myth of meritocratic grindCan billionaires ethically dictate global health priorities?Foundations vs. democracy: what happens when capital outlasts elections?Is Gates shifting from talent extraction to local innovation in India?The haunting fear of mental decline in a cognitively driven identity
Oliver and Victoria unpack Elad Gil’s appearance on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish.🔥 Topics we cover:Why Silicon Valley still matters (and maybe always will)AI startups and the myth of remote-first success"Cognition arbitrage" and the business of selling synthetic thoughtFoundation models as cathedrals of computationThe cultural cost of "safetyism" and regulation paralysisAre we heading toward digital feudalism—or global democratization?
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