Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast

In the twentieth and final episode of Season One of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP reflect on what they’ve learned through twenty weeks of exploring the intersections of astrology, Internal Family Systems, and the inner worlds of creativity and healing.Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.They look back on how the project began as a simple experiment and became a practice of shared discovery—testing, trusting, and tending to their own parts along the way. From astrology’s structure and symbolism to IFS’s intuitive flow, the two hosts explore what it means to live without an agenda, to “be like water,” and to let the work itself reveal its next form.The episode closes with setting intentions for Season Two: The Magician Season, where they’ll invite more guests, deepen their experiments, and bring their integration work into practice and play.Time Stamps & Topics00:00 — Welcome to Episode 20 and the close of Season One02:00 — What surprised and delighted us this season04:00 — How Chelsea’s view of astrology has evolved06:00 — Playfulness, memes, and ethical astrology08:00 — How IFS continues to shape Chelsea’s worldview10:00 — Practicing therapy without agenda and trusting the client’s system13:00 — KP on the tension between structure (astrology) and flow (IFS)16:00 — The power of being in the present moment19:00 — Learning through experience vs. collecting information24:00 — Reimagining client-led astrology sessions29:00 — Learning through one’s own system and the value of embodiment33:00 — Encouragement, integration, and creative boldness37:00 — Reflections on growth and gratitude for Season One40:00 — Setting intentions for Season Two: The Magician SeasonResources Mentioned* Internal Family Systems (IFS): a therapeutic model by Dr. Richard Schwartz exploring self-leadership through working with inner parts.* Chiron: discussed as an archetype of wounding and healing within astrology.* The Magician Archetype: representing integration, practice, and creative manifestation — the energy guiding Season Two.* Tarot’s Major Arcana (The Fool → The Magician): referenced as symbolic stages of creative and spiritual development.For those applying to grad programs in counseling:* Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauConnect with Us✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📺 Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@partsandcharts📸 Instagram @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with anyone exploring their own intersections of intuition, creativity, and healing.Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.comCredits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Tarot Reader and PR founder Cory Sargeant joins Chelsea and KP for a conversation that moves from chart analysis to embodied revelation. As Cory explores her Ceres and Moon placements, she begins recognizing the lineage of care that lives through her — from her Shinnecock ancestry to the spiritual connection she still feels with her mother.Through IFS and intuitive imagery, she meets new “motherhood parts” of herself: protective, playful, and deeply wise.[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or YouTube. For the audio version, listen through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.]Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.About Our GuestCory Sargeant is a Tarot Reader, intuitive, and founder of Sargeant PR (https://sargeantpr.com/) and SAY IT DO IT (https://www.sayit-doit.com/). Her interest in the mystical began in childhood, growing up in a spiritually fluid home where her grandmother read astrology charts and her mother gifted her a first Tarot deck in middle school. A descendant of Shinnecock shamans, Cory’s psychic abilities first emerged through prophetic dreams, shaping a lifelong devotion to intuitive practice.She has since conducted more than a thousand Tarot readings, offering guidance that blends clarity, compassion, and spiritual grounding. Beyond her work in intuitive arts, Cory leads a creative career in public relations and lives in Los Angeles with her husband and their dog, Rothko. She is joyfully expecting her first child.Time Stamps & Topics 00:03 – Intro and welcome00:29 – Introducing guest Cory Sargeant03:02 – Framing today: astrology then IFS; Cory’s question about motherhood04:43 – Cory shares how she’s approaching the question about motherhood06:36 – Asteroid placements: Ceres in Cancer in the second house07:49 – Jupiter and Chiron also in the second house; meaning for material security08:19 – Focus on the second house as material/security energy for parenting10:22 – Distinction between Moon and Ceres for nurturance and mothering style11:34 – Moon–Ceres synergy in Cory’s chart (Virgo/Cancer harmony)13:17 – Chart takeaway: material security, partnership, and readiness for children15:26 – Question: What will Cory learn about herself through motherhood?16:31 – Fifth house read — Gemini rising, Mercury and Mars in fifth house (play & drive)17:48 – Interaction between Libra (fifth house) and Sagittarius (seventh house) energies18:14 – “Earth mother” / green-Tara image and grounded, elegant parenting style19:12 – Sun/self-energy in daily routine and service; satisfaction and nesting22:23 – Closing astrology section: partnership as fertile ground for childbearing39:50 – Transition inward: invitation to notice parts and body sensations (IFS work)41:45 – Guided embodiment: breath, body scan, noticing fetal movement42:02 – Noticing Odin moving; description of sensation as “a little fish”43:27 – Locating physical sensations: organs moving, poking, constriction43:51 – Imagery and color: lime green texture, lizard / gecko image emerges44:28 – Emotional material: responsibility, grief, remembering earlier pet gecko45:17 – The gecko’s presence: motherly connection and comfort47:49 – Processing fear about mortality and staying connected to deceased mother50:49 – Visualization practice: a golden thread / daily check-in ritual51:24 – Gratitude and closing of inner session; returning to the room55:58 – Personal pull: Cory draws Empress + Six of Cups + Moon reflections57:17 – How to find Cory and offerings (Instagram handle, voice-note & Zoom readings)For those applying to grad programs in counseling:* Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauConnect with Us✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📺 Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@partsandcharts📸 Instagram @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone walking through transformation, creativity, or motherhood.Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.comCredits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this eighteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore the Libra archetype (the sign of balance, beauty, and relationship) and its connection to parts work, projection, and self-reflection.Together, they discuss Libra’s mythic symbolism, Venus’s rulership, the spectrum between harmony and conflict avoidance, and how Libra teaches us to meet others without losing ourselves.[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or YouTube. For the audio version, listen through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.]Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Resources Mentioned* Internal Family Systems (IFS) — discussion of parts that mediate, mirror, and balance internal voices* Venus rulership — connecting aesthetics and relational skill* Aries–Libra axis — polarity of assertion and harmony* Ritual practices — embodying balance through beauty, symmetry, and choiceFor those applying to grad programs in counseling:* Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauConnect with Us✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📺 Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@partsandcharts📸 Instagram @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s learning how to balance honesty, beauty, and connection.Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.comCredits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this seventeenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP dive into the soul of friendship — from the IFS parts that crave connection to the astrological placements that reveal how we bond, detach, and heal through friendship.Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.They explore Mercury’s and Venus’s friendship archetypes, Saturn’s lessons in boundaries and endurance, and the ways we unconsciously attract both safety and adventure in our closest relationships.[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or YouTube. For the audio version, listen through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.]Time Stamps & Topics00:00 – Opening reflections on friendship through the lens of IFS and astrology00:45 – Mercury and Venus as friendship archetypes: communication vs. mirroring03:17 – “The people who have endured with you over time are your gold friends.” – KP05:00 – Chelsea confesses: “I need to come clean and say that I was in a sorority.”07:05 – Lifelong friendship patterns: “I’ve always had to have a best friend.” – Chelsea08:57 – Reading Chelsea’s chart: Venus in Gemini in the 11th house, Jupiter in Aquarius in the 7th10:59 – Best friend signatures in astrology: Sagittarius and Pisces energy13:12 – “I know that if I show up that way, I’ll attract more of that.” – Chelsea17:05 – Boundaries and safety in connection: “I want to know where people stand.” – Chelsea18:03 – “We’re looking for the other in the chart — the friend in the chart — but it’s also us as the friend.” – KP20:05 – When friendships end: grief, loss, and identity29:00 – “I’ve been trying to figure out friendship for so long, and there’s just not a lot written about it.” – Chelsea30:34 – “Friendship makes your life rich. If you don’t have a certain type of friendship, your life feels cold.” – KP34:00 – “What’s your friend element? That’s the trailhead.” – KP35:01 – The story of how KP and Chelsea met through a tarot book club36:49 – “I am a ride-or-die type of person. I want friendships to last forever.” – KP37:50 – “You have such a balance of brilliant and goof.” – Chelsea43:00 – The pain of friend breakups: self-blame and rumination44:53 – “Don’t look at your chart anymore if it’s making you anxious.” – KP45:48 – Saturn’s role in authentic friendship: “Discarding something to go in the right direction.” – KPResources Mentioned* Freedom from Your Inner Critic by Jay Early & Bonnie Weiss — referenced in the previous episode* Internal Family Systems (IFS) — used to explore parts around friendship, attachment, and boundaries* Astrological Houses 3, 7, and 11 — as friendship houses representing communication, bonding, and community* Mercury & Venus Archetypes — two modes of friendship connection* Saturn Transits — friendship lessons in endurance and authenticity* Mars Transits — times of conflict or cutting awayFor those applying to grad programs in counseling:Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauConnect with Us✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📺 Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@partsandcharts📸 Instagram @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s ever grieved a friendship or found their soul friend through unexpected means.Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.comCredits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this sixteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea guides KP through a live demo session exploring protector parts, inner critics, and the surprising imagery that surfaces: bridges, blimps, storms, and kingdoms.This episode marks Part One of an inner critics series, offering listeners an intimate look at how IFS process work unfolds in real time—with pauses, visuals, and artwork.[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or Youtube. For the audio versions, listen through Spotify, Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app]Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Time Stamps and Topics:00:00 – Disclaimer: “We’re not really sure what’s going to happen.”03:02 – Entering the world of inner critics06:16 – Introducing Freedom from Your Inner Critic by Jay Early & Bonnie Weiss08:11 – The seven types of critics: perfectionist, taskmaster, underminer, destroyer, guilt-tripper, inner controller, and molder10:00 – Publishing despite the perfectionist: “We’re hitting publish whether it’s perfect or not.” – KP12:00 – The role of inner critics when putting work into the world15:31 – Bringing in the inner champion or mentor19:02 – Entering KP’s system: bridges, rivers, and blimps22:00 – The blimp appears: “It sucks the fun out of the room.” – KP26:14 – The blimp as surveillance and taskmaster energy29:00 – Introducing themselves: “They really like themselves. Even more than I like my own self.” – KP32:30 – Drawing the blimp as a storm cloud: “Lots of power, lots of electricity… it was beautiful, but dangerous.” – KP36:47 – Naming the part: Remarkable41:09 – The fear of fire and destruction of the kingdom45:04 – Remarkable’s encouragement: “You can expand. You can make your kingdom bigger if you want.”47:00 – An assignment: “We would love for you to focus on your muscles and building your core strength.”52:50 – Drawing the kingdom and the whale-blimp54:00 – The exile vs. protector difference in session55:28 – Feeling more Self-led: “This time, the part trusted me.” – KPKey Quotes:* “I think we’ll see where we’re going, but it might be something we do in part two.” – Chelsea* “Oh, is this inner critic? Probably, yes.” – KP* “It sucks the fun out of the room.” – KP* “It was really beautiful to be in that energy, but it was dangerous.” – KP* “They really like themselves. Even more than I like my own self.” – KP* “We would love for you to focus on your muscles and building your core strength.” – Remarkable (protector part)* “This time it was part of the experience. The part actually trusted me.” – KPResources Mentioned:* Freedom from Your Inner Critic by Jay Early & Bonnie Weiss — resource with categories of critics, inventories, and practices for self-led work* Internal Family Systems (IFS) framework — key concepts of protector parts, exiles, critics, and self-energy* Art materials — using drawing and creative imagery to explore inner parts* The imagery of “Remarkable” — blimp, storm cloud, whale, protector of a kingdomFor those applying to grad programs in counseling:Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack or DMWork 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.comCredits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this fifteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea Owens (IFS and Art Therapist) and KP Kaszubowski (Writer, Filmmaker, Astrologer) explore:* the Virgo archetype since we are in Virgo season! * We’re unpacking its brilliance, burdens, and overthinking partsWelcome to Virgo season! 🌿 In this episode of Parts and Charts, Chelsea (therapist) and KP (astrologer) dive deep into the Virgo archetype—its earthy, mutable energy, its gift for discernment, and the shadow side of overthinking.We explore Virgo as the planner, the caretaker, the teacher, and even the vigilant border collie who can’t stop keeping watch. How does this show up in our lives and relationships? And what can we do when those Virgo parts won’t turn off?Chelsea shares IFS practices for calming the inner perfectionist, finding more Self-energy, and letting go of the mental load. KP runs through Virgo in the houses, Venus in Virgo, and clears up some myths about this often-misunderstood sign.✨ If you’ve ever wrestled with anxiety, hypervigilance, or the pressure to “do it all right,” this episode is for you✨ Learn how Virgo energy can be both your superpower and your soft place to land.✨ take away insights that are equal parts astrological wisdom and therapeutic tools.Thanks for reading Parts & Charts! This post is public so feel free to share it.Time stamps and Topics:0:30 Introduction to the Virgo archetype 2:00 Virgo archetype as the virgin 4:00 The caretaker and daily life as Virgo energy 7:30 Nurse energy and Virgo energy13:15 Virgo as sheepdog and herding the pack19:30 Virgo Venus 25:00 Identifying what is wrong to change 28:00 Virgo using your eyes to see what needs to be figured out32:00 Virgo rising and mercury energy 32:50 Different houses in Virgo energy 47:00 Virgo parts = manager parts 51:30 How we can use Virgo energy for pleasure Key quotes:* "Everyone has Virgo energy in them. It just may show up in different ways and it may not be as apparent as someone who has the Moon in Virgo or something like that." -KP * "Mercury feels celebrated when Mercury's in Virgo, so that's what exalted means." -KP * "Virgo energy is like the super powered mind. And very few people have that ability to run their mind as quickly and as consistently." -KP * "It almost feels like a little bit more of an anxious energy, like in preparation for the worst things happening." -KP * "That, to me, is Virgo energy-the Border Collie who can't rest until all the sheep are safe." -KP * "Virgo parts are, l'm gonna guess, just like really strong managers." -Chelsea * "IFS helps those parts that feel like they can't stop doing their job. When Self is present, they don't have to be so hypervigilant." -Chelsea Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.For those applying to grad programs in counseling: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack or DMWork 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.comCredits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this fourteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea Owens (IFS and Art Therapist) and KP Kaszubowski (Writer, Filmmaker, Astrologer) explore:* What eclipses are—astronomically and astrologically* How eclipse season can feel like chaos, endings, beginnings, and surprise* Ways to stay “self-led” during moments of upheaval and rug-pulls* How different elements (Earth, Fire, Air, Water) might access the 8 C’s of SelfThis episode takes a closer look at eclipse season, the Virgo–Pisces nodal axis, and how to approach cosmic change without shame or self-blame. Chelsea grounds us in the Internal Family Systems (IFS) principle of Self-energy—reminding us that all parts are welcome, even in chaos—while KP unpacks eclipse cycles, their 18-year return, and how to track them in your own chart.Time stamps and Topics:0:30 Introduction to eclipse season and self-led energy2:00 What eclipses are (astronomy vs astrology)4:00 Pisces + Virgo eclipses of September 20256:00 Tracking eclipses through houses in your chart7:15 Eclipses as beginnings and endings (North + South Node)10:30 Why eclipses feel eventful and destabilizing13:30 The cycle of Virgo–Pisces eclipses, 2024–202716:20 Houses of resources and trust (2nd + 8th house examples)18:00 Jamie Lee Curtis quote on character and chaos20:00 Lessons vs. self-blame—Saturnical or soulful?23:00 Rug pulls, cosmic frustration, and staying gentle with yourself26:00 The Chariot card: intention vs. rigidity32:00 How Chelsea helps clients access Self-energy during upheaval38:00 Befriending chaos instead of suppressing it40:00 Virgo Sun thought experiment: 3 practices for Earth signs44:00 Elemental prescriptions: Earth, Fire, Air, and Water accessing Self-energyKey quotes:“Eclipse season can be chaotic, can be shifty and turny and all those things. So the best that we can do is to channel our self-energy or to tap into our self, take care of our self.” — Chelsea“Eclipse season is usually globally full of news that has to do with the themes of those zodiac signs. But personally, in our lives, for those two and a half-ish years, we can sense there's either a beginning or an ending—or many beginnings and many endings.” — KP“Eclipse season often looks like shedding, whether you want to or not—a part of your life or an identity or something. And it can also look like something brand new shows up in your life.” — KP“It doesn't feel good to be in chaos. But also, like, there's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with that energy. It's totally okay. It's not going to overwhelm the system. All of it's welcome.” — Chelsea“If I keep thinking that these rug pulls are because of my bad character or my bad choices, I will go insane.” — KP“It's not a moral judgment on your soul, but it's more of like a moment to practice—like, practice being better at handling chaos, better at handling stress.” — Chelsea“Self can handle all of it. Self can sit with all of these big emotions and hear them out.” — Chelsea“How can Earth energy get curious? If you need to put yourself in physical places like the beach or a hot tub or a quiet room, how can you just access more curiosity?” — Chelsea“Listening to truly inspirational speeches—like James Baldwin, or that Denzel Washington commencement speech—that might be fire energy. Always listening to inspirational anythings feels like a good entry point to more self-energy.” — KPResources Mentioned:* Internal Family Systems (IFS) — especially the principle of Self-energy and the 8 C’s (Calmness, Curiosity, Clarity, Compassion, Confidence, Courage, Creativity, Connectedness)* Astrological Nodes + Eclipse Cycles — 18-year return of eclipse patterns* Tarot: The Chariot card — guidance for facing change with intention* Jamie Lee Curtis said in an interview that “every single thing in her life, whether good or bad, has hinged upon a ‘couple of second [she] didn’t see coming.’” She is referencing this quote that comes from Marisha Pessl's novel, Special Topics in Calamity Physics:"Life hinges on a couple seconds you never see coming. And what you decide in those few seconds determines everything from then on... And you have no idea what you'll do until you're there".* Elemental “prescriptions” for accessing Self-energy We’ve officially entered eclipse season: from now until the end of September, the energy may feel a bit wobbly. Personally. Globally.We’re aware of the forced famine on the Palestinian people in Gaza. There is so little we’re able to do right now, especially with most of the humanitarian aid being blocked by the IDF. But, World Central Kitchen has been able to serve bread and water still, despite the blockages. In times of destabilization, eclipse season or not, one thing we can do is give generously to others experiencing displacement and persecution.For all of September, I (KP) am offering free birth chart readings to anyone who donates $50+ to World Central Kitchen.Shoot me a DM with a screenshot of your donation receipt and I’ll share a direct booking link.For those applying to grad programs in counseling: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📺 Watch on YouTube📸 Follow on IG: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a note, question, or love letter via Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s bracing for change, or wants to reframe chaos as an invitation to Self:Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

Before we get to the show notes of the first ever guest episode with astrotherapist Lisa Broggi, here are a couple quick announcements:* On September 5, 2025 (Friday!) at 1pm PT, Chelsea is leading a free live Q+A for anyone considering becoming a therapist. Let her save you precious time and money on this long (and worth it!) journey. REGISTER for the call here — the recording will be sent out for those not able to attend live.* For those applying to grad programs in counseling: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauIn this thirteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP welcome their very first guest: astrologer, therapist, and teacher Lisa Broggi of Pink Moon Therapy. Together they dive into “astrotherapy”—how astrology and therapy can meet in the consulting room—and explore the provocative, powerful archetype of Lilith.Therapist and astro-coach Lisa Broggi shares stories from her practice weaving charts with clients’ inner worlds, while Chelsea reflects on the overlaps with IFS and the therapeutic process. KP brings her own curiosity about Lilith as a figure of exile, rawness, and refusal—and how that energy can show up in both astrology and therapy.They talk about how Lilith resists being tamed, why it’s important to make space for the “unacceptable” parts of ourselves, and what happens when clients bring their own astrological knowledge into sessions. Along the way, the three laugh about language, lineage, and what it means to belong (or not belong) in therapeutic spaces.This one’s for the part of you that wants to connect your chart to your healing work, the part that’s curious about Lilith’s wild edge, and the part that just loves hearing smart, soulful people in conversation.Key Quotes:"Learning about my chart, especially in my 12th house, was like the deepest validation I've ever experienced in my life." — Lisa Broggi"I have a theory that when people learn that they have 12th house placements there's like this period almost of like... ‘oh I'm doomed’... but ultimately it does bring you in because it's this deep interest.” — Lisa Broggi"You can't just tell clients, ‘this is what's going on with you.’ They have to come to that themselves." — Lisa Broggi"The art of translating to somebody who doesn't know is big." — Lisa Broggi“My goal in my mind is to help them heal any shame wounds or fear or even rage." — Lisa Broggi"I think my Pisces in the 10th was like so scared to be seen in my witchiness and my like nonlinear approach." — Lisa Broggi"The difference between a conscious Lilith and an unconscious Lilith is like night and day... because she can wreak havoc she can do damage... if you're not conscious of this energy, she can be a real problem." — Lisa BroggiTimestamps & Key Topics:00:00 – Welcome + PSAs about mini course, Q&A, and Self-Led September01:10 – Introducing first guest Lisa Broggi, friend, astro-coach, and fellow therapist03:44 – Lisa's background: therapy first, then Saturn return astrology awakening05:14 – The 12th house stellium revelation and deep validation experience08:00 – 12th house energy in therapists and healing work12:13 – Introduction to Black Moon Lilith: myth, archetype, and shadow work16:15 – Lilith myth: Adam, equality, exile, and demonization18:04 – Different types of Lilith (Black Moon vs Asteroid) and eclipse experiences24:38 – How Lisa works with Lilith energy in therapy sessions30:51 – Astrotherapy practice: attracting clients who already want the integration34:19 – Using transits as containers for difficult experiences (Uranus example)38:03 – KP's current Saturn-Neptune opposition and not personalizing struggles42:25 – Looking back at transits to understand planetary energies46:31 – Mercury and Saturn as therapist planets, chart ruler discussions49:17 – Moon placements and sensitivity (12th house vs 7th house examples)54:36 – "Prescriptive astrology" - matching self-care to big three placements55:40 – Couples work possibilities and focusing on Moon/Venus/Mercury59:57 – Integrating IFS parts work with planetary placements1:04:41 – Sand tray work, tarot, and working with archetypes online1:05:58 – Where to find Lisa's work (TikTok: @the.lilith.therapist)1:07:19 – Closing thank you and contact informationResources mentioned:* Lisa Broggi’s website and teaching offerings* The Lilith Therapist TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.lilith.therapist* Lisa’s website: https://www.pinkmoontherapy.com/* Find Your Lilith Tutorial: * Internal Family Systems Institute: ifs-institute.com* Astrology references: Lilith in the natal chart* Works on astrotherapy (Lisa’s recommended readings)We’ve officially entered eclipse season: from now until the end of September, the energy may feel a bit wobbly. Personally. Globally.We’re aware of the forced famine on the Palestinian people in Gaza. There is so little we’re able to do right now, especially with most of the humanitarian aid being blocked by the IDF. But, World Central Kitchen has been able to serve bread and water still, despite the blockages. In times of destabilization, eclipse season or not, one thing we can do is give generously to others experiencing displacement and persecution.For all of September, I (KP) am offering free birth chart readings to anyone who donates $50+ to World Central Kitchen.Shoot me a DM with a screenshot of your donation receipt and I’ll share a direct booking link.Connect with Us:✨ Subscribe to us on Substack📸 Follow on IG: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a note, question, or love letter via Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who is ready to claim their Lilith power:Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

Announcement time!* On September 5, 2025 at 1pm PT, Chelsea is leading a free live Q+A for anyone considering becoming a therapist. Let her save you precious time and money on this long (and worth it!) journey. REGISTER for the call here — the recording will be sent out for those not able to attend live.* For those actively navigating all the details of applying to counseling grad programs: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau* Do you also love making deep friendships through book-clubbing? We want to start a “Novels of Manners” Book Club, starting with Jane Austen’s Persuasion. Message us if you’re interested in joining a slow book club!In this twelfth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea Owens and KP Kaszubowski lean into Virgo season’s back-to-school vibe. But specifically for those interested in joining the counseling profession.This episode explores what it actually means to go back to school as an adult, whether that’s literal (therapy grad school) or symbolic (a new season, a new structure, a new initiation).Chelsea shares her journey through therapy school and the realities of becoming a therapist—the long hours, the burnout, the breakthroughs, and the quiet joys that make it worth it. KP reflects on almost becoming a counselor herself, her curiosity about grief work, and how vocation shows up in astrology. Together, they tease apart the fantasy and reality of “school” in midlife: the excitement of new supplies, the terror of debt, and the soul-level satisfaction of being in a helping profession.This one’s for the part of you that still loves syllabi and fresh planners, the part that wonders if it’s too late to pivot careers, and the part that’s secretly thrilled by the words “grad school application.”Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Key Quotes:“It’s way overdue for me to read a Jane Austen.” — KP“Most of therapy school is actually just doing your own work. The counseling comes later.” — Chelsea“It’s an initiation. You go down to the underworld, you do your hours, you come out rebirthed.” — Chelsea“You get to witness little windows into people’s souls. That feels indescribable.” — Chelsea“There’s this undeniable richness and satisfaction to the job, which is not usually part of other jobs.” — KP“Burnout is real, both during the 3,000 hours and later in private practice.” — Chelsea“IFS really saved me from burnout. It keeps me engaged, it feels like an adventure in the soul every time.” — Chelsea“If I’m really going to be in this for 30, 40, 50 years—how do I stay invested, healthy, able to give and receive?” — Chelsea“Going through therapy school is really just excavating yourself—facing your own stuff so you can be solid for other people.” — ChelseaTimestamps & Key Topics:00:00 – Welcome back & why we love back-to-school season03:00 – Announcements: our Novels of Manners Book Club + upcoming Q&A07:00 – Therapy school as initiation: the long road to becoming a counselor15:00 – KP’s almost-career in counseling, grief work, and vocation in the chart20:00 – Why midlife is often the moment for a big career pivot27:00 – The financial + emotional costs of therapy school35:00 – Burnout, self-care, and staying in the work for decades42:00 – Convince me to become a therapist… now convince me not to50:00 – Freedom, balance, and art-making as a therapist in private practice58:00 – Wrap-up: what “back to school” means in Virgo seasonResources mentioned:* Persuasion by Jane Austen (our first book club pick)* IFS Institute: ifs-institute.com* Info on therapy graduate programs + licensure paths — Chelsea made a mini course for $25 will all the info you need before you take the plunge: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiauWe’ve officially entered eclipse season: from now until the end of September, the energy may feel a bit wobbly. Personally. Globally. We’re aware of the forced famine on the Palestinian people in Gaza. There is so little we’re able to do right now, especially with most of the humanitarian aid being blocked by the IDF. But, World Central Kitchen has been able to serve bread and water still, despite the blockages. In times of destabilization, eclipse season or not, one thing we can do is give generously to others experiencing displacement and persecution. For all of September, I (KP) am offering free birth chart readings to anyone who donates $50+ to World Central Kitchen. Shoot me a DM with a screenshot of your donation receipt and I’ll share a direct booking link. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this eleventh episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP get curious about thinking and speaking parts, and how Mercury in the birth chart might be a key to understanding them.This episode explores how parts that think and speak show up in Internal Family Systems (IFS) work, and how astrology, specifically Mercury’s placement, can offer language for how we intellectualize, communicate, and perform.Chelsea unpacks the “speaker part” with IFS clarity, helping us see how thinking parts often dominate therapy sessions with good intentions—but sometimes prevent other, quieter parts from surfacing. KP brings in the role of Mercury in astrology, sharing how a tight Sun-Mercury conjunction in her own chart makes language and identity nearly inseparable.Together, they discuss clients with chatty Gemini or Virgo Mercuries, Mercury retrograde placements, and what it means to be “dazzling” in thought. KP also undergoes a live IFS demo, meeting a snake/dragon part of her system that performs, delights, and reminds us that intelligence doesn’t always come from the head.This one’s for the part of you that over-explains, intellectualizes to survive, or has ever been told you “talk funny.” It’s also for the dazzling part that wants a little more room to play.Key Quotes:* “Language determines as well as describes.” — KP, on Mercury and how words shape reality* “They want to help the client feel better. That’s why they come to therapy.” — Chelsea, on the positive intent of thinking parts* “The snake said: I’m dazzling. I might be a little scary, but I’m magnificent.” — KP, channeling a speaking part through IFS* “There's nothing wrong with intellectualizers. We need them. But sometimes they take up all the space.” — Chelsea* “What if the burrito is a thinking part?” — KP, mid-demoTimestamps & Key Topics:00:00 – Welcome back & intro to speaking/thinking parts in IFS03:00 – What’s a speaker part? Asking dominant parts to step aside06:00 – Mercury’s role in how we speak, learn, and language the world10:00 – Is language ever separate from identity? Astrology’s view14:00 – Nonverbal parts: how we sense young or preverbal energies20:00 – Managing language dominance: "patching" strong Mercuries24:00 – When thinking parts carry burdens & how to relieve them29:00 – Relational care, listening, and being with parts gently33:00 – Mercury retrograde & what “strange” speech might reveal36:00 – IFS Live Demo: KP meets a dazzling snake/dragon part43:00 – Speaking parts, childhood noise, and self-protection50:00 – What does a performing part want? Friendship & lightness58:00 – Recap, Mercury as identity, and imagining other Mercury partsResources mentioned:* No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz* The Internal Family Systems Institute: ifs-institute.com* Mercury in astrology (learn your Mercury sign at astro.com)* IFS demo frameworks* Asteroid astrology: explore minor bodies like SapphoConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to us on Substack📸 Follow on IG: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a note, question, or love letter via Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who intellectualizes their emotions—or who’s ever felt like their Mercury was dazzling and misunderstood.Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this tenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:What does Leo energy really mean beyond the stereotypes?How can we reclaim pride, visibility, and creative fire as sources of healing and self-leadership?[To watch the video version, head over to Substack or YouTube. For the audio versions, listen through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.]This episode dives into Leo season and the Leo archetype—how it shows up in all of us, not just those with Leo placements. Chelsea and KP explore Leo as a fixed fire sign, its polarity with Aquarius, and the connection between Leo and Self-energy in Internal Family Systems (IFS). They also get personal about how Leo shows up in their own lives and how to work with clients who have strong Leo signatures in their charts.Time stamps and Topics:1:00 Intro: Welcome to Leo Season2:00 The basics: Leo as a fixed fire sign3:30 Understanding Leo through polarity: Leo–Aquarius6:45 Leo energy is inside everyone—even if you have no Leo placements10:00 How Leo shows up in KP and Chelsea’s charts14:30 Leo doesn’t always mean loud—grounded, quiet Leos exist too16:00 Leo’s fascination with the self and identity18:00 Mutable vs fixed energy: playing with identity vs defining it21:00 Role-switching, persona, and the fluid Leo Moon/Mercury combo26:00 Leo as joyful, doting, generous—sometimes hard for others to receive30:00 Leo vs Aquarius: the polarity of selfhood and collective belonging33:00 Cultural resistance to Leo energy and self-pride36:00 Why Leo energy is often misunderstood or rejected40:00 Shadow Leo: performance, power, pride, and unmet needs44:00 The joy and articulation of Leo in writers like Ross Gay 47:00 Questions KP asks when seeing Leo in a chart54:00 The ache of not being received and early wounds around pride and visibilityKey Quotes:“They were like, ‘Why are you so cheerful?’ ‘Why are you saying this?’… It was so hard to receive.” — Chelsea“That Leo energy is often told they are ‘too’ — too loud, too much.”— KP“When someone knows what they need and what they want, that's a threat to unhealthy dynamics.” — KP“I’ve always noticed people thinking I’m not being totally genuine when I show up super sunny and cheerful and excited… but it, like, so is.” — Chelsea“I think there’s such a fear of too much self-focus — what that would do.” — Chelsea“I think about how Leo is the performer, in that they're so aware of and they've played with their own persona, their own selfness, that they can step in and put on masks of other selves more easily than other people.”— KP“Even if you don't have any placements in Leo, there are many parts of you that are expressing that energy in different ways.”— KP“The shadow side of pride is being really easily hurt if someone doesn't appreciate something you did or doesn't tell you you look good today.”— KP“We need Leo energy. We need more of it. We need more Leo workshops. We need more Leo leaders.” — ChelseaResources Mentioned:* Internal Family Systems (IFS) — explored through the lens of Leo’s connection to Self-energy* The Sun Sign — as the animating force that corresponds to Self in IFS* Leo–Aquarius Polarity — balancing visibility and individuality with collective care* Ross Gay — poet and example of embodied Leo energy in joyful articulation* Frida Kahlo, Madonna, Hemingway, Obama — notable figures discussed as Leo examples* The 12 Zodiac Houses — referenced for understanding how Leo energy expresses in different life areas* The phrase “Don’t dull your shine” — discussed in the context of Leo’s wound when rejected for being too muchConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack or DM🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s ever been told they’re “too much” or who needs a reminder to step into their sun energy.Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this ninth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP get personal about dating, through the lens of inner parts, natal charts, and what we’re really looking for when we swipe right.This episode invites you into a conversation that’s intimate, tender, and surprisingly analytical. KP reads Chelsea’s birth chart and explores how Venus, Mars, the Ascendant, and even Jupiter play a role in her dating style and relational patterns. Chelsea shares what parts show up on dates—from the charming performer to the loyal caretaker—and how they connect to her IFS practice and chart.We get into what attraction really is, how it overlaps (or doesn’t) with value systems, and how parts come online when we’re seeking connection. There’s a little astrology lesson on first impressions (Ascendant), what we offer and desire in love (Venus), how we pursue it (Mars), and how we know when someone feels right. Spoiler: it’s not always in the bios.This episode is for anyone trying to date with self-awareness, for the part that overanalyzes texts, and the part that dreams of soul recognition—even on apps.Key Quotes:* “Mars won’t let the chase happen unless the feelings are resonating.” — KP, on pursuit and Cancer energy* “There’s a part of me that shows up on dates to make everyone else feel comfortable. It’s kind… but not romantic.” — Chelsea, on caretaker parts* “Dating isn’t just about finding a match. It’s about seeing if you’re a match for yourself around someone else.” — KP, on the seventh house* “Venus shows how we signal who’s ‘like us.’ That can be attraction, but also values.” — KP* “Just send me a good poem and I’m in love.” — Chelsea, on Venus in GeminiTimestamps & Key Topics:00:00 – Sun-kissed returns & gloomy week reflections01:30 – Shared tarot pull: King of Pentacles as dating anchor03:00 – What parts show up when we talk about dating06:00 – The podcast’s spiritual function: lighten up, laugh, let go10:00 – Astrology 101: Ascendant, Venus, Mars, and dating dynamics14:00 – Venus in Gemini: Attraction, language, and love via reading lists20:00 – Mars in Cancer: Hesitant pursuit and needing emotional resonance26:00 – Duality in dating: confident vs. shy parts, polarizing impulses33:00 – Caretaking parts and the “friendly but not flirty” dilemma38:00 – KP’s theory: Jupiter in Aquarius in the 7th = idealistic partnership caretaking41:00 – Attracting air-sign vibes but craving emotional depth45:00 – Matching chatty minds with body-based connection48:00 – What to look for in your chart (and in potential matches)Resources mentioned:* All About Love by bell hooks (give it to your dates)* No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz* Learn your Venus, Mars, and Rising signs at astro.com* Basic astrology tools: chart rulers, seventh house placements, and aspectsConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe on Substack📸 Follow on IG: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send us your dating dilemmas and planetary placements via Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s been told they’re “intimidating” on dating apps… or who uses a poem as a pickup line.Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this eighth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:How wounds live in us not just as pain, but as pathways to presence, curiosity, and storytelling.[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or Youtube. For the audio versions, listen through your favorite podcast app]This episode dives into the deep end of woundedness. We talk about the IFS concept of burdens, how parts hold pain from the past, and what healing actually looks like (often visual, elemental, and slow). We also wander into Chiron’s domain in astrology, the “wounded healer,” and reflect on how our charts reveal both the tenderness and the tools we’ve been given to metabolize it.We bring in tarot, psychodrama, middle school shame, and how speaking up (even in a podcast) can feel like standing at the front of class with no notes. This one’s for the part of you that’s scared to say the wrong thing and the part that knows that woundedness can be alchemized, not erased.We also dream up workshops where Pluto gets played by a friend in a cape, talk about how burdens get released through elemental rituals, and share our own Chiron placements and the tender places they light up.“There’s no reward for being woundless. We’re not rushing to get anywhere.”Key Quotes:“What the wound is… is just a beautiful need.” — Chelsea, reframing pain in the language of compassion.“Chiron energy is ripe for exploration—because it asks us to love, not fix.” — KP, on astrology’s wounded healer.“The swords hold the wound in place. And you get to choose whether to pull them out.” — KP, interpreting the Three of Swords tarot card.“There’s a whole protocol for unburdening in IFS. It’s like soul-level somatic magic.” — Chelsea, on releasing burdens through elements.“Middle school logic is still alive in us. And it deserves respect.” — Chelsea, on exiled parts and internalized beliefs.Timestamps & Key Topics:00:00 – Welcome back + how to talk about wounds without it being a bummer02:00 – Tarot pulls: Three of Swords, Ace of Swords, and the Magician as wound wisdom06:00 – Acting, pretending, and the psychodrama of healing09:00 – What burdens mean in IFS and how they’re released15:00 – Do we all have wounds? What’s “normal”? And is healing ever done?20:00 – Exiles in IFS: the tender parts we bury and protect26:00 – Chiron in astrology: the wound, the gift, the alchemy33:00 – Protective parts in the chart? Chiron's planetary neighbors38:00 – Trauma bonding, skepticism, and why wounds don’t define your worth43:00 – Chiron transits + the “middle school energy” of re-wounding46:00 – Our middle school wounds + how they still show up today50:00 – Chiron in KP’s chart and what it means for art, value, and loveResources mentioned:* No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz* The Internal Family Systems Institute: ifs-institute.com* Chiron mythology (search your Chiron placement + aspects for insight)* The Rehearsal by Nathan Fielder (HBO)* Tarot cards discussed: Three of Swords, Ace of Swords, The Magician* Narrative astrology & psychodrama groups (Google: “astrology drama circle”)or check out the Living Astrologies conference: https://livingastrologies.net/about Connect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow on IG: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a note, question, or love letter via Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who over-prepares before speaking and secretly loves the drama of tarotCredits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In the seventh episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:What are firefighters? And how do they work in the system and our birth charts? And how might the Moon in our birth chart illuminate how we soothe, react, or protect ourselves in vulnerable moments?[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or Youtube. For the audio versions, listen through Spotify , Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app]This episode dives into the reactive protector parts known as Firefighters in IFS—how they attempt to numb, soothe, or distract us from pain—and how that protective instinct might connect to our Moon sign and emotional patterns in astrology. Plus, Chelsea and KP share personal stories and challenge each other’s theories about risk-taking, soothing, and how selfhood shows up in the birth chart.Time Stamps and Topics:1:00 — Introducing firefighter parts in IFS2:00 — Difference between managers and firefighters3:00 — The role of firefighters: distraction, numbing, reaction6:00 — How firefighter parts can show up in therapy and life8:00 — Spiritual bypassing as a subtle firefighter10:00 — Can we talk to firefighters when they’re not activated?12:00 — KP’s story of quitting smoking as firefighter work14:00 — The cycle of managers, firefighters, and shame17:00 — Working with parts that don’t like our behaviors19:00 — The Moon’s role in astrology as a soothing or reactive force21:00 — How Moon signs might relate to emotional coping24:00 — KP’s informal Moon sign survey results27:00 — Chelsea’s unique Cancer Moon with no aspects30:00 — Risk-taking, firefighters, and different houses in astrology33:00 — How Moon placement may affect how we take risks37:00 — Chelsea’s Leo Moon and self-expression, where the Moon is in the chart: where we invest ourselves emotionally40:00 — Mars as a cutting force and how it relates to firefighters44:00 — Chelsea’s 12th House Mars, Moon, and Sun: self-undoing and spiritual bypass48:00 — Wrapping up: No fixed answers, just curious inquiryKey Quotes:* “Firefighters are also protectors, but they have very different energies.” — Chelsea* “Firefighters try to put out the fire of emotions—and help people escape those flames.” — Chelsea* “Managers try to control things. Firefighters rebel against that control.” — Chelsea* “A huge part of this work is to help the manager parts calm down and trust that we’re trying to help.” — Chelsea* “Firefighters don’t always have to be extreme… They can show up in subtler ways.” — Chelsea* “The more you make acquaintance with your parts, the more you know who’s loudest right now.” — KP* “It wasn’t until I had more self-knowledge that I could actually release smoking from my life.” — KP* “There’s this cycle: something triggers, a firefighter comes in, does the behavior, and then the managers judge it—and shame comes up.” — Chelsea* “What helped me was not quitting smoking, but reducing the tension.” — KP* “They really want to make you feel good, even if they look destructive on the surface.” — Chelsea* “The Moon is often where I go first when I’m thinking about emotional reactivity.” — KP* “Maybe you tried soothing in a way someone else did—and it didn’t work for you because your Moon doesn’t vibrate that way.” — KP* “Wherever the Moon is in the chart, that tends to be where we’ve invested in our early years.” — KP* “Mars always has to cut something. It’s the severing principle in our lives.” — KP* “We need the ability to cut things in order to have a fruitful life.” — KPResources Mentioned:* Internal Family Systems (IFS) — Focus on firefighter parts and their protective roles* Dick Schwartz — Founder of IFS* The Moon in Astrology — How our Moon sign shows up in emotional coping and soothing* Risk-taking in the Birth Chart — Theories on houses, planets, and self-undoing* Mars in Astrology — As a symbol of choice, cutting, and severing* IFS Cycle of Managers, Firefighters, and Shame — How these parts interact in our systemsConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s ever doubted their chart or wanted to silence a part of themselves.Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:What it means to cross a personal threshold—astrologically, emotionally, and internally—through the lens of Chelsea’s 40th birthday.Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.They unpack the traditional astrology technique of annual profections and how each year of life is shaped by a different house and planetary guide (aka “Time Lord”). KP walks Chelsea through the energetic shift from a Mars-ruled fourth house year (39) to a Jupiter-ruled fifth house year (40), illuminating how themes of interiority, effort, and conflict give way to play, creativity, and joy.Chelsea reflects on the intensity of her 39th year—how her parts showed up, how astrology intersected with life’s challenges, and what she’s hoping to leave behind. Together, they consider how astrology and IFS can support us in navigating expectations, reclaiming agency, and trusting our own unfolding.This episode is a birthday celebration, a mini astrology class, and an invitation to be with whatever season of life you’re in—especially if it feels like a liminal one.Key Quotes:“Mars says no. Jupiter says yes.” — KP, on planetary rulership energy“You don’t have to achieve anything before any timeline—because time isn’t real.” — Chelsea“The Time Lord is like the rhythm-setter for your year.” — KP“The energy of the year felt like: try something… and then nope. Try something else… and nope again.” — Chelsea“You don’t have to let astrology dictate everything. But you can learn how to flow with it.” — KP“Time isn’t real. Even though that is technically my business.” — KP, lol“There was friction because I was fighting the flow.” — Chelsea“You’re not doing it wrong if your year feels crunchy. It might just be a 12th house year.” — KP“I was trying to overpower the universe… and just made myself suffer more.” — Chelsea“The fifth house isn’t for hustle. It’s for wonder, play, and creative expansion.” — KP“There’s still things I want for my life, but it doesn’t have the same desperation anymore.” — Chelsea“A 22-year-old astrologer can be brilliant if they’re self-led and coming from the heart.” — KPTimestamps & Key Topics:00:00 — Welcome back + birthday vibes01:00 — What is a perfection year? A time-based astrology technique05:00 — Chelsea reflects on turning 39, societal pressures, and internal parts10:00 — Mars-ruled years: conflict, frustration, and movement13:00 — How the fourth house shaped Chelsea’s experience of grounding16:00 — The energetic shift ahead: Jupiter as Time Lord in the fifth house20:00 — KP on Mars retrograde, protection parts, and burnout cycles25:00 — Why the next year is for joy, not intensity30:00 — The internal resistance to “bad” astrology news35:00 — Reframing aging as magic, not limitation38:00 — Grottoes, Gothic churches, and Mary energy40:00 — Support for anyone crossing a threshold—astrological or otherwiseResources we mentioned in the episode:* Annual Profections (Hellenistic astrology timing technique)* https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/annual-profections-astrology-calculator* No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz* Internal Family Systems Institute — ifs-institute.com* Chelsea’s therapy practice: chelseaowenstherapy.com* KP’s astrology sessions, writing, and workshops: kpkaszu.comConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send us a note, question, or birthday blessing on Substack🦀 Share this episode with someone facing a big milestone (or in a crunchy Mars year)Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:Why Cancer season is the perfect starting point for their new zodiac series—and why this watery archetype is deeply personal for both of them.They unpack the Cancer archetype from ancient myths to modern moods: what it means to be ruled by the Moon, how Cancer’s shell symbolizes both protection and vulnerability, and why this sign is often misunderstood as “crabby” when it’s actually a master of empathy, care, and emotional attunement.This episode dives into the Cancerian gift for creating safe spaces, the complex dance of codependency, and the wisdom of tending to your own inner world. KP shares the Thema Mundi and the idea of spirit becoming flesh at the height of summer, while Chelsea offers reflections on healthy boundaries, control, and love in action.They talk humor, home-making, creativity, and why Cancer energy can feel like a warm, protective nest—and sometimes, a tender trap. They also explore the gifts and challenges of Cancer’s cardinal nature: the urge to initiate, to nurture, and the lessons of discernment in where we pour our care.Key Quotes:“Cancer archetype is like the person who’s still tapped in beyond rational thinking.” — KP, on Cancer’s intuitive nature.“Our moods are always changing, but there is a constancy too—that’s the wisdom of the moon.” — KP, connecting Cancer’s ruler to emotional cycles.“If I don’t do it, who else will?” — Chelsea, on Cancer’s impulse to care and the risk of burnout.“The moon teaches us we can change daily and still be trustworthy.” — KP“Cancer humor is goofy, not cruel—it doesn’t punch down.” — KP, on the kind of lightness Cancer brings.“We all need a strong shell sometimes—but too much can keep connection out.” — Chelsea“Cancer archetype is about knowing when to protect yourself and when to let love in.” — KPTimestamps & Key Topics:00:00 — Welcome to the pod + why Cancer season is the perfect launch02:00 — The word Cancer: crabs, turtles, and scarabs05:00 — The Thema Mundi & why some consider Cancer the zodiac’s first sign10:00 — Cancer as spirit becoming flesh, the umbilical cord metaphor15:00 — Humor, imagination, and Cancer’s goofy side20:00 — Shelled creatures as a metaphor for protection and vulnerability25:00 — Cancerian caretaking, home-making, and the art of nesting30:00 — Codependency: the difference between love in action and controlling care35:00 — The Moon’s lessons on constancy and change40:00 — Cancer’s challenges with boundaries and discernment45:00 — Cancer as the archetype of the narrator, character empathy, and writing50:00 — Using Cancer season for self-reflection, healing, and tending your inner partsResources we mentioned in the episode:* Thema Mundi chart * Authors who write in many different characters who have significant Cancer placements: Octavia Butler, Ernest Hemingway, Iris Murdoch, Franz Kafka, June Jordan, Thoreau, E.B.White, Anthony Bourdain, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Leo Tolstoy, Elizabeth Gilbert, Carmen Maria Machado, Cormac McCarthy* No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz* Internal Family Systems Institute: ifs-institute.com* Chelsea’s therapy info: chelseaowenstherapy.com* KP’s astrology sessions, writing, and workshops: kpkaszu.comConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on IG: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send us a note, question, or love letter on Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who loves their inner child and a good crab factCredits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this fourth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:What if the parts of us who manage our day to day lives are really intending to protect us? What if those manager parts are connected to Saturn?[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or Youtube. For the audio versions, listen through your favorite podcast app]In this episode, Chelsea leads KP through a live IFS demo centered on manager parts—the internal protectors who keep our systems running smoothly, often by gripping tightly to control, productivity, and perception.You’ll learn:* What manager parts are and how they function in our daily lives* Why they can feel both essential and exhausting* How Saturn, the astrological planet of structure and responsibility, mirrors manager energy* The surprising overlap between tarot symbolism (hello, Death and Six of Pentacles) and internal systems workMidway through, KP gets curious about her own Saturn placement and what it says about her patterns around income, health, and timing—and then opens to a poetic and powerful visualization of one of her manager parts. What emerges is a mermaid on a rock, equal parts ancient and devoted, sturdy and a little dramatic. This part becomes a living metaphor for how structure allows for creative freedom, and how containment doesn’t have to mean limitation.This episode is part tutorial, part therapy demo, part astrological meditation—and offers an up-close look at the internal world of a practicing poet-astrologer as she makes contact with her parts.✨ If you’re a practitioner, this episode also offers a rare chance to witness Chelsea’s gentle, skillful facilitation of an IFS session in real time.🎥 We highly recommend watching the video version to catch key visual cues, including KP’s astrological chart and Chelsea’s micro-expressions during the demo.Key Quotes:“Managers do a lot of the front end stuff, managers do a lot of proactive work or preemptive work to control the situation or control the activation in the system so an exiled part doesn’t get too activated. ” — Chelsea“Controlling the environment, the body, how people perceive you, it can look like people pleasing, striving, schieving, type A stuff can be manager material.” -Chelsea“I think that I wasn’t seeing him [Saturn] as significant as I should have been, because he’s the last visible planet, I think he gets this kind of reputation like he’s isolated, he’s out there, he will come in when he needs to fix something.”-KP“The best manager is not asking you to notice them, the best manager is doing things behind the scenes and not calling attention to the 300 things they just got done.” -KP“When you listen to us, we don’t have to work as hard.” — KP’s internal partTimestamps & Topics:00:00 – Tech notes and why the video version is still worth watching :)02:00 – What’s on the tarot table: Death, Nine of Swords, Six of Pentacles04:00 – Introducing manager parts: the backbone of your internal system06:00 – How manager energy might show up in daily life08:00 – Perfectionism, people-pleasing, overworking, and control12:00 – IFS demo begins: KP meets a part shaped like a mermaid on a rock18:00 – Barnacles, devotion, and multi-generational parts21:00 – Saturn and the second house: slow growth and sacred work24:00 – Saturn in the first house: vitality, routine, and body responsibility28:00 – Shape and restraint as allies to power31:00 – A manager’s fear of internal chaos—and how structure helps36:00 – The volcano and the rudder: managing explosive creative energy40:00 – When parts want more attention: building trust through ritual43:00 – Rhubarb the analyzer part, and other unexpected guests48:00 – The astrological case for Saturn as a spiritual ally53:00 – Debrief: chart geometry, Venus-Pluto, and deep sea symbolism58:00 – Creative devotion, sacred pacing, and why Saturn gets better with ageResources Mentioned:* No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz* The Internal Family Systems Institute – ifs-institute.com* Astrology chart tools – astro.com or astro-seek.com* Tarot decks discussed: Rider-Waite Smith, Mary K. Greer interpretations* Concepts: manager parts, Saturn return, birth chart rulers, containment, sublimation, sextile aspectConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s ever doubted their chart or wanted to silence a part of themselves.Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this third episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:What is Self energy? And how does our Sun sign in our birth charts help us understand what Self is?[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or Youtube. For the audio versions, listen through Spotify , Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app]This episode takes a closer look at the foundational IFS principle of “Self” and how that corresponds to Soul, Spirit, and Sun sign. How to notice what self energy is and how to cultivate more in your daily life. Time stamps and Topics:1:00 Introduction of Self energy4:00 Self is an essence we all have inside5:04 Particles and waves10:21 Being Self-led in situations15:37 How to get in Self when you’re nervous about performing on stage 23:56 Self awareness is parts awareness 24:09 Speaking for your parts not from them27:29 Connection to Sun sign in astrology29:28 Soul and spirit, animating forces 34:46 Making a ritual to feel into Self energy35:49 Be still and know that I am god37:54 Sun energy is like God energy in astrology 39:35 Cancer sun energy42:27 The verb poem for all 12 sun signs45:39 Bonus feature for paid subscribers, guided meditationKey Quotes:“Be still and know that I am God.” - KP & the Bible “Self is like the sun… it’s always inside you. Even if you can’t see it sometimes.”— Chelsea“Self exists in everybody. It’s considered a particle and a wave. A noun and a verb.”— Chelsea“When you’re truly in self-energy, it’s easy. It’s effortless.”— Chelsea“The purpose of IFS and astrology for me is greater understanding and love for myself.” - KP“To speak for your parts, not from them—that’s part of being self-led.”— Chelsea“All parts have self-energy. When unburdened, they can become curious, compassionate, creative.”— Chelsea“The soul is the energetic expression and spirit is the animating force.” -KP“The sun sign is what gives us vitality—our most persistent source of light, awareness, and attention.”— KP“Every sun sign is a facet of God wanting to experience different ways of being in flesh.”— KP“The more often you do ritual, the more often you remember what self-energy feels like.”— KPResources Mentioned:* Internal Family Systems (IFS) — therapeutic modality discussed throughout, especially the concept of Self-energy and the 8 C’s of Self:Calmness, Curiosity, Compassion, Confidence, Courage, Clarity, Connectedness, Creativity* Dick Schwartz — founder of IFS; referenced for describing Self as both a particle and a wave* Astrological Sun Sign — discussed as a metaphor and parallel to Self-energy in IFS; described as one's animating principle, vitality, and facet of divine expression* Ritual Practice — brought up as a means of returning to Self-energy and building muscle memory for connection with source/spirit/self* “Be still and know that I am God” — a Biblical/liturgical phrase cited as an entry point into meditation and a way of understanding the stillness of Self-energy* The zodiac “I” statement poem KP tried to remember lol:Aries: I amTaurus: I haveGemini: I thinkCancer: I feelLeo: I willVirgo: I analyzeLibra: I balanceScorpio: I desireSagittarius: I seekCapricorn: I useAquarius: I knowPisces: I believeConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s ever doubted their chart or wanted to silence a part of themselves.Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome to the first ever Parts & Charts horoscope episode! In this soft, reflective entry, KP invites us into the tender waters of Cancer season: a time for nurturance, homecoming, and care for all parts of ourselves.Through the image of a baby in the room, KP explores how Cancer energy asks us to shift perspective, slow down, and attend to what needs support. We also take a brief look ahead to Uranus’ upcoming move into Gemini (July 7, 2025), marking a major shift in collective and personal rhythms. KP offers gentle guidance for preparing: make space, pare down, and allow room for the unknown.Key Dates for Cancer Season:June 20: Sun enters Cancer June 24: Sun conjunct Jupiter in CancerJune 25: New Moon in CancerJune 26: Mercury enters LeoJuly 4: Venus conjunct Uranus in TaurusJuly 4: Venus enters GeminiJuly 7: Uranus enters GeminiJuly 10: Full Moon in CapricornJuly 17: Mercury Retrograde beginsJuly 22: Sun enters LeoCheck out your personal horoscopes below, by Rising or Sun sign: Cancer Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: the parts of you that feel good in your skin, your physical vitality, what makes you feel good from the inside out, your role in this world, how you want to present yourself in various settings, the rhythm or pace you’re taking this season.make space for: periods of contemplation, meditation practices, self-compassion, releasing negative self-talk, the ways you keep yourself from enjoying your life and all that you have earned.Leo Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: how you restore your energy, the environments that make you feel safe to go deeper, what brings you peace and quiet, what needs to be listened to inside of you.make space for: friendships, conversations, sending your work out into the world, gifts you want to share, where you want to go for support and encouragement.Virgo Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: how you cultivate systems of support, who is rooting you on and who you are the cheerleader for, how you show up in the world, how you share your gifts or how you wish to but need a little push in order to do so, the arenas where your people hang out.make space for: becoming more visible, what you want to put the most effort into in your lifetime, reinvention of your career / vocation, how you will use language to make your legacy.Libra Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: your vocation, your effort, your mission, your expression of your soul out into the world.make space for: god, spirit, learning, travel, big ideas, reading practices, higher education.Scorpio Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: how you connect with your spiritual practice, and how you want to lean in.make space for: sharing and exchanging resources, channeling information from unknown sources, going deeper, healing deeper, expressing the darkest parts of yourself.Sagittarius Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: your most intimate relationships — with yourself and with others, and how to go deeper, feel deeper.make space for: others. ;)Capricorn Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: your deeply bonded relationships, the people in your life you can rely on, the mirror image, and nurturing your relationships like they are a living being.make space for: big changes in how your daily life will look, your fitness routine, your bodily needs for maintaining a healthy life, your work and labor changing drastically.Aquarius Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: the parts of your day that make the rest of the day an easier experience, your nutrition, your rest, your fitness.make space for: playing around! laughing! experimentation! creation!Pisces Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: childlike wonder, playfulness, your inner child, art, music, dancing around, recreation!make space for: learning about your history, your ancestors, what makes you you, your emotional healing and coping mechanisms. Where you physically or emotionally live.Aries Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: where you came from, your foundational support systems, what makes everything else possible when you tend to it.make space for: writing, singing, learning, schooling, organization of your day, week, living spaces, neighborhoods.Taurus Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: how the way you talk about something affects how you feel about something.make space for: new ways of making money, building up your skills and talents — allow yourself to be surprised!Gemini Rising / Sunbring conscious attention to: how you receive — income, praise, support, advice. And expanding your ability to receive all of these.make space for: a whole new look. A whole new guiding light. A whole new Big Dream.Connect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who you care about deeply. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

In this second episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:What if the parts of us we try to exile (like shame, criticism, or old patterns) are actually offering us a map? And what if our birth charts could help us read it?[to watch the video version, head over to Substack or Youtube. For the audio versions, listen through your favorite podcast app]This episode takes a closer look at the IFS principle of “No Bad Parts” and how that philosophy translates into astrology. KP shares stories from her work with clients who feel stuck with so-called “bad” placements, while Chelsea unpacks how even the parts of us we want to change are usually just trying to help.We talk about combust planets, therapist parts, self-like parts, and the parts of our charts that give us access to creative energy and clarity. You’ll also hear thoughts on what happens when clients (or we ourselves) come in with an agenda, and how to gently move from judgment to curiosity.Key Quotes:“When I approach parts of myself as a friend, or as someone I don’t know yet, things soften and release on their own.” — KP“We’re not trying to kill off these parts. We’re just getting to know them.” — Chelsea“If I hear someone exiling a placement in their chart, I pause. That’s a trailhead.” — KP“Giving too much information can bring out a lot of thinking parts. It turns therapy into a cerebral exercise.” — Chelsea“Most parts have a polarized counterpart. They’re usually trying to protect us in totally different ways.” — ChelseaTimestamps & Topics:00:00 – Welcome and a look at “No Bad Parts”01:00 – How IFS reframes what healing looks like04:00 – Astrology’s version of this: why there are no bad charts06:00 – KP shares personal chart details and what others might misread08:00 – Therapist parts, overachiever parts, and speaking clearly11:00 – Unblending and letting go of the inner agenda14:00 – Are some parts naturally more “positive”? What unburdening allows17:00 – The sun as a metaphor for Self20:00 – What Mars combust the sun might tell us23:00 – First house placements and self-access25:00 – A beginner-friendly explanation of what a birth chart is29:00 – What you can still learn without your exact birth time32:00 – Venus in Aries, transits, and changing dynamics34:00 – Astrology as data, IFS as dialogue36:00 – Visual parts mapping and how to track polarizations39:00 – Do parts ever mirror people in our lives?41:00 – Oppositions in charts and the experience of inner tug-of-war43:00 – Living with contradictions and listening for what’s needed nowResources Mentioned:* No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz* The Internal Family Systems Institute: ifs-institute.com* Free chart tools: astro.com or astro-seek.com* Concepts: Trailheads, self-like parts, polarizations, first house placementsConnect with Us:✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s ever doubted their chart or wanted to silence a part of themselves.Credits:Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah LutherThe cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe